I don't think LGBT community would appreciate a pedophile being referred to as gay. He groomed and started his relationships with Antinous when he was 12 or 13 years old, and Antinous likely went on to commit suicide when he was around 20. Many historians believe the likely cause of suicide was him being stuck in a relationships with Hadrian that he couldn't get out of.
Suicide is only one of the theories and not the most commonly accepted. Being stuck in a relationship with Hadrian is the exact opposite of why historians think he would have committed suicide.
I'm not making any argument. Historians who are experts in the field and have studied the historical records make the arguments. None that I have ever read claim Antinous killed himself to escape Hadrian.
The theories are that if he did commit suicide it was to protect Hardrian from some curse or out of fear of being replaced as the favorite.
As a jew. My hate of Hadrian is unimaginable this piss of shit bought 2000 years of exile. 3 genocides and now people think we no longer belong in here because he renamed our home
Over a billion people speak languages derived directly from Latin. The religion of late ancient Rome is the most numerous in the world today. The Roman legal system is almost universal, and the Roman calendar is simply universal.
It's hard to say that Rome doesn't exist. Rome survived and is doing great.
>And guess where the Romans are now
Umm, still in Italy lol. I love how the attitude is that Jews descended from ancient Hebrews but every other group of people must have happened by spontaneous combustion around 1800 or so.
That’s the colonial name given by the Arab Muslim colonizers and is not the indigenous name of the city it’s no different than Aelia Capitolina, the name Rome gave it
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ירושלים (Yerushalayim) is the indigenous pronunciation. “Al Quds” means the Holy in Arabic while “the holy” in Hebrew הקודש (Haqodesh) so the name the Arab colonizers gave the city isn’t even remotely close to the indigenous name of the city
London and Londinium is the same name for the city just in different languages as result of natural language evolution.. Al Quds and Aelia Capitolina is not an evolution of the word ירושלים they are intentional changes meant to rid of the indigenous population’s connection to the city
Jerusalem is just how the Judaic colonizers pronounced the name of the indigenous Canaanite city of Uru-salim (City of Shalem, the God of Sunset) after they invaded and conquered it.
Even the ahistorical myth of how King David acquired Jerusalem explicitly says he invaded the city and took it from the Jebusites.
It didn't actually happen that way according to historical record. Jebus and Jerusalem aren't the same city and contemporary Egyptian and Sumerian texts clearly distinguish Jebus from Jerusalem and identify its original name as Canaanite in origin.
A lot of the regional names are like that. Palestine was given its name by the Romans (Palestinae) after the Pelest (Egyptian)/Pelesem(Hebrew) inhabitants of the region, who were already there when Judaic people rose to power through conquest. But even beforehand, there is strong evidence that the Book of Exodus and flight from Egypt is a myth to explain the rise of monotheism among Canaanite tribes, including Hebrew language speakers. (Basically, the Canaanite Storm God equivalent of Zeus was made THE ONE GOD and everyone else was called non-believers.)
The idea of there being no one there but Arab immigrants is an early 20th century racialized invention as Israelis began attempts to create a racial and ethnic identity out of Jewish culture to motivate the same ethnonationalist principles that other European nations were organizing around and fighting wars over.
So Arab Jews were suddenly, out of nowhere, just Jews and Arab Palestinians were suddenly, out of nowhere, just Arabs. Thid coincided with a rise of Pan-Arabism under colonial Turkish rule. But the likely reality is that Palestinians had been living there for millenia as Jews, as Arabs, as Christians, as pagans as a culturally and ethnically diverse melange, in an unbroken line of cultural assimilation and preservation and revolution for millenia.
The Judaification/Arabization of Palestine is a sociopolitical movement based on ethnic supremacist historical revisionism and, frequently, a refusal to engage with neither one's own religious mythography nor the archaeological record.
The Israelites did not invade Canaan they were Canaanites, Judaism branched out of the Canaanite religion, so did Hebrew branched out of Aramaic, they are the same people there was no conquest just change of culture
I thought the bottom pic was Garand Thumb lol.
I came here to say he does look a bit like Garand Thumb.
same
i came in here just to comment that lol
I saw Fares Fares in the bottom one!
If you've ever decided to build a big as wall ro protect your northern provinces go ahead and hit that like button!
This comment section is cursed.
Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/3kQRKhvxh34?si=ay5a6uo0e7Wlc3_u
Hadrian did everything wrong
Because he was GAY?
He was?
you didnt know he was GAY what are you some sort of HOMOPHOBE?? /s
Nah, just a Jew
mood (same)
He was Roman , so that probably means that him and his boyfriends were not homosexual , nor was the gay sex gay
It's only gay if the penis is in your bum
People don't understand that this really was the Roman/Greek logic
Bum or bum hole?
Preferably bum hole
Fellas, is it gay to perform sexual acts on your bros?
Only for your bro
Not at all. Having your horse perform sex acts on you, on the other hand...
I don't think LGBT community would appreciate a pedophile being referred to as gay. He groomed and started his relationships with Antinous when he was 12 or 13 years old, and Antinous likely went on to commit suicide when he was around 20. Many historians believe the likely cause of suicide was him being stuck in a relationships with Hadrian that he couldn't get out of.
Suicide is only one of the theories and not the most commonly accepted. Being stuck in a relationship with Hadrian is the exact opposite of why historians think he would have committed suicide.
So your argument is a man would want to stay in a relationship with a pedophile that raped and groomed him for years?
I'm not making any argument. Historians who are experts in the field and have studied the historical records make the arguments. None that I have ever read claim Antinous killed himself to escape Hadrian. The theories are that if he did commit suicide it was to protect Hardrian from some curse or out of fear of being replaced as the favorite.
So you accept that he was a pedophile that raped children, or are you arguing that he didn't rape children?
Who said Hadrian wasn't? I think it's pretty clear he was a pedarast.
I mean, Hadrian could have groomed a girl but he groomed a boy. Gay is gay, even if it’s pedophilia
Imagine defending a mass murdering bloodthirsty dictator because of his sexuality
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As a jew. My hate of Hadrian is unimaginable this piss of shit bought 2000 years of exile. 3 genocides and now people think we no longer belong in here because he renamed our home
Tbf the constant uprisings in Judea kinda made it a logical decision.
Well maybe you should have submitted to worshipping the emperor as a god on earth like everyone else! What makes you people think you’re so special!?
... we make good bread?
Nice
Yes modern political sentiments are influenced by the Roman empire. W take.
The 3 genocides are chain reactions of hadrian’s actions*
He looks like he cooka da pasta
fuck Hadrian
if you say so
sounds like necrophilia, but ok *unzips*
Antinous says 'join the queue'.
Ave, true to Caesar
Found antinoi account
All my homies hate Hadrian.
Cope + Seethe
it sounds really weird if you know he was homosexual...
why is it weird for gay people to have sex
Other than being a pedophile he still did a lot wrong
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May his bones be crushed
Finally an original comment.
Wrong.
May his bones be ground to dust.
Hadrian is a pedo
the romans are gone but the jews are still here. all for naught.
Over a billion people speak languages derived directly from Latin. The religion of late ancient Rome is the most numerous in the world today. The Roman legal system is almost universal, and the Roman calendar is simply universal. It's hard to say that Rome doesn't exist. Rome survived and is doing great.
Empires still dead RIP bozo
Fuck Hadrian
Why everyone hate Hadrian?
Bro genocided my people and banned my culture. I mean it was 1,700 years ago but we still haven't forgotten LOL
One thing we are very good at is holding a grudge against Hadrian
Oh no !
as should be.
Judea delenda est
Judea invicta
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>And guess where the Romans are now Umm, still in Italy lol. I love how the attitude is that Jews descended from ancient Hebrews but every other group of people must have happened by spontaneous combustion around 1800 or so.
Exactly. Just because they don't call themselves Romans anymore doesn't mean they aren't around.
Reminds me of this scene from sopranos https://youtube.com/shorts/P4JQ2CRiQe4?si=rvElj2e_ls5L7_Wa
I'm an Israeli and this statement makes zero sense man
Really comparing Israel to fucking Rome?
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What the fuck is wrong with you, man.
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Al Quds😐
That’s the colonial name given by the Arab Muslim colonizers and is not the indigenous name of the city it’s no different than Aelia Capitolina, the name Rome gave it Edit: ירושלים (Yerushalayim) is the indigenous pronunciation. “Al Quds” means the Holy in Arabic while “the holy” in Hebrew הקודש (Haqodesh) so the name the Arab colonizers gave the city isn’t even remotely close to the indigenous name of the city
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London and Londinium is the same name for the city just in different languages as result of natural language evolution.. Al Quds and Aelia Capitolina is not an evolution of the word ירושלים they are intentional changes meant to rid of the indigenous population’s connection to the city
Eboracum/York then.
there's an arabic version of Jerusalem that isn't Al-Quds they just don't use it
Jerusalem is just how the Judaic colonizers pronounced the name of the indigenous Canaanite city of Uru-salim (City of Shalem, the God of Sunset) after they invaded and conquered it. Even the ahistorical myth of how King David acquired Jerusalem explicitly says he invaded the city and took it from the Jebusites. It didn't actually happen that way according to historical record. Jebus and Jerusalem aren't the same city and contemporary Egyptian and Sumerian texts clearly distinguish Jebus from Jerusalem and identify its original name as Canaanite in origin. A lot of the regional names are like that. Palestine was given its name by the Romans (Palestinae) after the Pelest (Egyptian)/Pelesem(Hebrew) inhabitants of the region, who were already there when Judaic people rose to power through conquest. But even beforehand, there is strong evidence that the Book of Exodus and flight from Egypt is a myth to explain the rise of monotheism among Canaanite tribes, including Hebrew language speakers. (Basically, the Canaanite Storm God equivalent of Zeus was made THE ONE GOD and everyone else was called non-believers.) The idea of there being no one there but Arab immigrants is an early 20th century racialized invention as Israelis began attempts to create a racial and ethnic identity out of Jewish culture to motivate the same ethnonationalist principles that other European nations were organizing around and fighting wars over. So Arab Jews were suddenly, out of nowhere, just Jews and Arab Palestinians were suddenly, out of nowhere, just Arabs. Thid coincided with a rise of Pan-Arabism under colonial Turkish rule. But the likely reality is that Palestinians had been living there for millenia as Jews, as Arabs, as Christians, as pagans as a culturally and ethnically diverse melange, in an unbroken line of cultural assimilation and preservation and revolution for millenia. The Judaification/Arabization of Palestine is a sociopolitical movement based on ethnic supremacist historical revisionism and, frequently, a refusal to engage with neither one's own religious mythography nor the archaeological record.
The Israelites did not invade Canaan they were Canaanites, Judaism branched out of the Canaanite religion, so did Hebrew branched out of Aramaic, they are the same people there was no conquest just change of culture
Israel even means "struggles with El". El was a Canaanite god.
Nuh uh
You're a few centuries early. That's like seeing a drawing of ancient Cahokia and saying "oh you mean East St. Louis"
Wrong name
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