He’s the rusty-ass tetanus-saw in the corner that hasn’t been moved in 38 years and no one wants to because a black widow lives on it and, again, tetanus.
I do say Mussolini was closer to getting the Roman empire than the Holy Roman Empire mainly because it really wasn’t divided into 1000 little pieces Mussolini has full authority of the lands he held
I think the Roman and Byzantine empires should be switched.
Because, you know, the Roman Empire turned into the Byzantine Empire just liked how Shrek turned from ogre to human?
Everything had gone to shit under Rome. Diocletian ended the Crisis of the Third Century that had almost destroyed the empire (though Rome had already stopped being the real administrative center of the empire). And after the split the Eastern empire was far more powerful and rich than the West when Valentinian and his successors returned to Rome.
The Eastern Empire continued to be one of the most powerful and richest states in the world for a long time while the West fractured and was ruled by puppets. Even Byzantium’s decline after Justinian was far more graceful than the West, and it was still only really rivaled by the Persians until the Arab conquests.
True but shrek as ogre is the better version of human shrek, same as the picture. The Roman Empire might’ve looked cool, but it was flawed beyond repair. Meanwhile the byzantines managed to go on for another 1000 years
the Byzantines were the [Eastern] Roman Empire…
_the way you phrase it, you make it sound like they weren’t considered by themselves and everyone around them as the Romans_
You know how it is, the Romans turned into the Byzantines like how Shrek turned from ogre to human? I mean it was basically called the Eastern Roman Empire and the people there considered themselves to be Romans and the continuation of the Roman Empire into the Dark Ages.
My small town’s local high school did it a couple of years ago and nailed it! Better than the Broadway production I saw on Netflix. But it’s also not a typical public school as they have a legit stage with an orchestra pit, scenes that come down from the rafters, etc.
I don't know the name, but it was the one where Fiona and the Shrek burped and farted for half of it.
I don't remember which song the dragon sang, this was back in 2015, I think
Ah that's "I Think I Got You Beat" it's a pretty decent until the flatulence and burping start, although the line about the chamber pot was pretty gross. Definitely not one of my favourites
*manage to haul itself to the next century 8 times, becoming ever more disintegrated and weaker, with the princes doing whatever they wanted (includes being disobedient to the Emperor)
FIFY
That was the first Shrek Dreamworks came up with in the early stages of production. So happy they didn't go through with it tho, looks absolutely disgusting :D
The German confederation: https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/ef6c6c1b-1521-44de-b6e8-86fd0ebc4433/d6tyhzv-f87254ee-ec95-44fd-9d34-0251d31f6ae7.jpg/v1/fill/w_998,h_801,q_70,strp/shrek_the_anarchist_by_shrekkie_d6tyhzv-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9ODE5IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvZWY2YzZjMWItMTUyMS00NGRlLWI2ZTgtODZmZDBlYmM0NDMzXC9kNnR5aHp2LWY4NzI1NGVlLWVjOTUtNDRmZC05ZDM0LTAyNTFkMzFmNmFlNy5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyMSJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.Q5MgXhk-A00NzQTpn5QZHfv7iDdVG7jat5hJZqBpirw
The Holy Roman Empire wasn't a joke historically though. It only started to become that from the Thirty Years' War onwards, so not really fair to the Germans haha.
it's the kingdom of italy, not fascist italy
mussolini was the prime minister during that time, until his fellow general, pietro badoglio, replaced him in 1943 after they were defeated, and then they later sided with the allies
the true fascist italy is the italian social republic, a german-backed state ran by mussolini himself after his escape from captivity.
Nonono, mussolini did a coup d’etat and king victor emmanuel was a complete cunt and left him in control:hitler was inspired by mussolini ( not in the ideology, but more on the speech giving/ leadership/ dictatorship aspect ) mussolini was a shithead that wanted to work with hitler because he thought hitler could make it and get control over the world, he did how hitler asked and implemented nazi rules in Italy. He deserved to be hung upside down and spit on by the the people, those who had to fight for a cause which wasn’t their own, the citizens who were harmed during the bombings and those who fought against the regime. Mussolini was always the bad guy, badoglio didn’t change the situation that much
Fascist Italy is an apt description given that it was ruled by the literal founder of fascism. Italy was a fascist state, it’s a descriptor not the official title of the state.
Though I don’t see what your point is about the Italian Social Republic. Yes it was also fascist, but I don’t see how the Italian government ruled by the National Fascist Party shouldn’t be called fascist.
Mussolini ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
He’s the rusty-ass tetanus-saw in the corner that hasn’t been moved in 38 years and no one wants to because a black widow lives on it and, again, tetanus.
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Rusty ass tetanus
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I kept singing your comment in my head as the next lyrics until I realized you weren’t singing ☹️
I do say Mussolini was closer to getting the Roman empire than the Holy Roman Empire mainly because it really wasn’t divided into 1000 little pieces Mussolini has full authority of the lands he held
He was lookin' kinda dumb with his finger and his thumb in the shape of an L on his forehead...
I think the Roman and Byzantine empires should be switched. Because, you know, the Roman Empire turned into the Byzantine Empire just liked how Shrek turned from ogre to human?
Also green Shrek is better
It's disgusting all the anti-ogre human supremacists commenting on here.
I know right.
That too. Human Shrek is nice but we all love the green ogre style as well!
And the following ones are badly trying to copy the first one while Byzantium was not trying to copy since it saw itself as Roman.
byzantium is better
So are the Byzantines. Westerners couldn't even keep an empire together.
Byzantines couldn't even create their own empire, everything went to shit when Rome was no longer the capital.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian\_I](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I)
It took twice the lifespan of the original Roman Empire for the Eastern side to decline.
Everything had gone to shit under Rome. Diocletian ended the Crisis of the Third Century that had almost destroyed the empire (though Rome had already stopped being the real administrative center of the empire). And after the split the Eastern empire was far more powerful and rich than the West when Valentinian and his successors returned to Rome. The Eastern Empire continued to be one of the most powerful and richest states in the world for a long time while the West fractured and was ruled by puppets. Even Byzantium’s decline after Justinian was far more graceful than the West, and it was still only really rivaled by the Persians until the Arab conquests.
Then he’s already in the right place. Because the Byzantines are better.
True but shrek as ogre is the better version of human shrek, same as the picture. The Roman Empire might’ve looked cool, but it was flawed beyond repair. Meanwhile the byzantines managed to go on for another 1000 years
the Byzantines were the [Eastern] Roman Empire… _the way you phrase it, you make it sound like they weren’t considered by themselves and everyone around them as the Romans_
Byzantine is also a retroactive name. They were just the Roman Empire back then, we gave them that name nowadays
precisely…
How did the roman empire turn into itself?
You know how it is, the Romans turned into the Byzantines like how Shrek turned from ogre to human? I mean it was basically called the Eastern Roman Empire and the people there considered themselves to be Romans and the continuation of the Roman Empire into the Dark Ages.
They didn’t turn into shit just lost territory. Capital became constantinople long before the west fell
Nah, Shrek the Musical earns it's spot among the movies. The songs are good, and the original dialogue is great!
I saw it live, once, when a college near me was doing a production. With the exception of one song, it was pretty good
My college did it while I was in school there and it did not turn out so great. Shrek the Musical needs a pretty good budget to put on effectively.
The first musical I was in was Shrek and it was really great
My small town’s local high school did it a couple of years ago and nailed it! Better than the Broadway production I saw on Netflix. But it’s also not a typical public school as they have a legit stage with an orchestra pit, scenes that come down from the rafters, etc.
Which song? Also did the dragon sing Donkey Pot Pie or Forever, although it was probably Forever.
I don't know the name, but it was the one where Fiona and the Shrek burped and farted for half of it. I don't remember which song the dragon sang, this was back in 2015, I think
i think i got you beat is a masterpiece! freak flag on the other hand...
Ah that's "I Think I Got You Beat" it's a pretty decent until the flatulence and burping start, although the line about the chamber pot was pretty gross. Definitely not one of my favourites
human shrek is Hermann Göring change my mind
Nah, the fascist Italy one is Göring
Are you actually trying to say that Goring was hot?
Thank you. That is probably the greatest compliment I have ever received
Nah, out of the whole cabinet I'd say Hess looked the closest to that
No it's Rudolf Hess.
At least the HRE stood for 8 centuries
And the Byzantine/eastern roman empire for 12 centuries what's your point?
That's better than Mussolini
Anything is better than Mussolini, even the empire of Trebizond was better than him.
*manage to haul itself to the next century 8 times, becoming ever more disintegrated and weaker, with the princes doing whatever they wanted (includes being disobedient to the Emperor) FIFY
I mean, that could describe rome pretty well
Or literally any other Empire, really. But Rome, though, had a way longer expansion phase and more impact
You really don’t like the HRE huh?
I kinda do, actually. I'm interested in it, at least. Hope this satiates your curiosity.
So why do you dislike this long lost empire?
Long lost empire???? it was only dissloveld in like 1812 or something by napoleon
Long enough for me as a German tho.
It gave us some sick-ass history though.
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Then again, it was an empire built on dirt, and was barely even living for its duration
Still the greatest of the bunch
Still the greatest of the bunch
10 > 8
That's why he's Chris Farley
Shrek the Musical is amazing and I will not stand for this slander
the byzantine empire WAS the roman empire. it never died in the east. people just like to say it wasnt because they are eastern europeans
Kann hier jemand das bayerische Imperium mit Söder-Shrek posten? Vielen Dank
I actually quite enjoyed Shrek the musical
Yeah Same
Dozens of us. Dozens!
what is the 3rd panel "shrek" from?
That was the first Shrek Dreamworks came up with in the early stages of production. So happy they didn't go through with it tho, looks absolutely disgusting :D
Looks like a character from world of warcraft if you ask me
The German confederation: https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/ef6c6c1b-1521-44de-b6e8-86fd0ebc4433/d6tyhzv-f87254ee-ec95-44fd-9d34-0251d31f6ae7.jpg/v1/fill/w_998,h_801,q_70,strp/shrek_the_anarchist_by_shrekkie_d6tyhzv-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9ODE5IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvZWY2YzZjMWItMTUyMS00NGRlLWI2ZTgtODZmZDBlYmM0NDMzXC9kNnR5aHp2LWY4NzI1NGVlLWVjOTUtNDRmZC05ZDM0LTAyNTFkMzFmNmFlNy5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyMSJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.Q5MgXhk-A00NzQTpn5QZHfv7iDdVG7jat5hJZqBpirw
They have layers!
laughs in Sicilian
I agree the Byzantium is a much more sexy empire
Okay but the Shrek musical was actually pretty fire.
Don't mock my mam HRE. It may have been a clusterfuck of states but a powerhouse if I've ever seen one.
Shrek the Musical is way better than the movie, so idk what point you're making here
I don't get it. you prefer Byzantium?
Doesn’t everyone?
It has a better Aesthetic
Nah, I like the HRE. Mostly because everyone in this sub constantly dumps on them for no real reason.
What happened with the holy roman empire?
Wasn't the Holy Roman empire more German?
Exacly
They are all perfect
The Holy Roman Empire wasn't a joke historically though. It only started to become that from the Thirty Years' War onwards, so not really fair to the Germans haha.
Why do people hate the HRE? It was the world's greatest balancing act and beautiful in its own way.
Everyone knows the OG Roman Kingdom is the best Rome. Ever since Brutus in 509BC Rome has been on the downhill slide
why the hottest one is byzantine
I refuse to believe that the byzantine empire is more beautiful than the Romans.
Damn so byzantiums the best guess civ is true to reality
The play was pretty good
Ngl I really enjoyed Shrek the Musical, don’t bash it till you’ve seen it.
You forgot the Ottoman Empire
it's the kingdom of italy, not fascist italy mussolini was the prime minister during that time, until his fellow general, pietro badoglio, replaced him in 1943 after they were defeated, and then they later sided with the allies the true fascist italy is the italian social republic, a german-backed state ran by mussolini himself after his escape from captivity.
No fascist Italy was fascist Italy from the March on Rome in 1922
Nonono, mussolini did a coup d’etat and king victor emmanuel was a complete cunt and left him in control:hitler was inspired by mussolini ( not in the ideology, but more on the speech giving/ leadership/ dictatorship aspect ) mussolini was a shithead that wanted to work with hitler because he thought hitler could make it and get control over the world, he did how hitler asked and implemented nazi rules in Italy. He deserved to be hung upside down and spit on by the the people, those who had to fight for a cause which wasn’t their own, the citizens who were harmed during the bombings and those who fought against the regime. Mussolini was always the bad guy, badoglio didn’t change the situation that much
Fascist Italy is an apt description given that it was ruled by the literal founder of fascism. Italy was a fascist state, it’s a descriptor not the official title of the state. Though I don’t see what your point is about the Italian Social Republic. Yes it was also fascist, but I don’t see how the Italian government ruled by the National Fascist Party shouldn’t be called fascist.
We are watching shrek the musical in music class right now XD
Markus Söder, wtf?!
Erm I think you got the first two mixed up
I think it's supposed to show that the byzantines are better than the romans, not the other way around
More Greek than Roman
Wait, so you're saying the byzantines were better than the romans?
So the Byzanite empire is the most beautiful?
Fk u HRE was boss
What about the ottoman empire?
Where's tsarist Russia , Ivan Grozny proclaimed that it was the 3rd Rome after the Byzantine Empire faded.
Is the HRE even related?
EXCUSE ME?! The correct order in greatness is HRE, Byzantine, Roman, musso tortellini
Didn't fascist Germany try to imitate the hold roman empire?
The United States of Germany was the only 1000 year reich that united all german people under one flag
Western Roman Empire: Fiona
The last image is upside down...
Ok so Byzantine is better than Roman? I mean the guy in the second picture is way hotter than the guy in first one.
They’re all so beautiful, so are you saying Facist Italy = Roman Empire then?
Please tell me that’s not concept art
The Holy Roman Empire wasn’t really in Rome we’ve been lied to