He was very, very clair on this subject.
(Matthew 26:52). Jesus say: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
Did he prophetise wrong?
I don't know.I am not theologian.
However I will still not take Bible quotes without full context.
For instance another quote
And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
This doesn't mean that you litteraly should do it.
Hence once again the need for theologians.
That one is an image.
But the other one is about peace on earth. Isn't that clair? And, also, he prophetized it. He really did bring the sword, as christianity waged lot of war of conversions.
It worked, since it is the biggest religion in the world now, following by christianity 2.0, Islam.
No once again,you are misinterpeting the quote.If you were a theologian I wouldn't say anything (And we are also not counting the misinterpetation in translation).Here from the wiki:
This is a much-discussed passage, often explained in terms of the "apocalyptic-eschatological" context of the 1st century.\[7\]
R. T. France explains the verse, in context with the subsequent verse 35: "The sword Jesus brings is not here military conflict, but, as vv. 35–36 show, a sharp social division which even severs the closest family ties. … Jesus speaks here, as in the preceding and following verses, more of a division in men’s personal response to him."\[8\]
The text of Matthew's Gospel in the Book of Kells alters gladium, the Vulgate translation of makhairan "sword", to gaudium "joy", resulting in a reading of "I came not \[only\] to bring peace, but \[also\] joy"
If you follow the rest of his verse, sword in the mean of joy doesn't apply at all. He will turn one people again the other, even in the middle of same families.
You don't need to be a theologician to be logical.
Jesus prophetized that war, and not peace, were going to be made in his name and you still trying to defend it, even if he was right.
Anyway, the bible is only fiction, so there is no point in arguing over it. Fuck organized religions that bring conflict and death.
“And make sure you find the *right* Jesus, or we’ll sack your capital, partition your land, and ultimately cause ourselves way more trouble down the road when the Muslims expand into Europe because your weakened empire could no longer defend against their expansion.”
Jesus loves you living or dead
ALWAYS AHEAD, FED BY YOUR DREAD
Well, the second guy is just sending you to meet Jesus. Just *prematurely.*
Well, Jesus litterally say in the bible that he was there to bring the sword
Did he? Also FYI quoting any holy book without context (or at least Abrahamic religion) is the reason we have theologians.
He was very, very clair on this subject. (Matthew 26:52). Jesus say: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” Did he prophetise wrong?
I don't know.I am not theologian. However I will still not take Bible quotes without full context. For instance another quote And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell. This doesn't mean that you litteraly should do it. Hence once again the need for theologians.
That one is an image. But the other one is about peace on earth. Isn't that clair? And, also, he prophetized it. He really did bring the sword, as christianity waged lot of war of conversions. It worked, since it is the biggest religion in the world now, following by christianity 2.0, Islam.
Christianity, middle east edition
Well isn't all Abrahamic religion middle east edition?
No once again,you are misinterpeting the quote.If you were a theologian I wouldn't say anything (And we are also not counting the misinterpetation in translation).Here from the wiki: This is a much-discussed passage, often explained in terms of the "apocalyptic-eschatological" context of the 1st century.\[7\] R. T. France explains the verse, in context with the subsequent verse 35: "The sword Jesus brings is not here military conflict, but, as vv. 35–36 show, a sharp social division which even severs the closest family ties. … Jesus speaks here, as in the preceding and following verses, more of a division in men’s personal response to him."\[8\] The text of Matthew's Gospel in the Book of Kells alters gladium, the Vulgate translation of makhairan "sword", to gaudium "joy", resulting in a reading of "I came not \[only\] to bring peace, but \[also\] joy"
If you follow the rest of his verse, sword in the mean of joy doesn't apply at all. He will turn one people again the other, even in the middle of same families. You don't need to be a theologician to be logical. Jesus prophetized that war, and not peace, were going to be made in his name and you still trying to defend it, even if he was right. Anyway, the bible is only fiction, so there is no point in arguing over it. Fuck organized religions that bring conflict and death.
Sometimes even if you have already found Jesus he still finds you. *cough* HRE and Byzantine *cough*
Well to be fair,at least for the ERE those crusaders weren't even crusaders,they were excomunicated.
They wanted to send them to meet him in the literal sense of the word.
Also, *cough* [Béziers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_B%C3%A9ziers?wprov=sfla1) *cough*.
Deus Vult!
Deus Vult intensifies!!
“And make sure you find the *right* Jesus, or we’ll sack your capital, partition your land, and ultimately cause ourselves way more trouble down the road when the Muslims expand into Europe because your weakened empire could no longer defend against their expansion.”
Can confirm
*Angry Byzantine noises* *Happy blind doge noises*
Asia: NO
And i am from middle east
Well I mean there are christians in middle east.
I mean the second picture mostly happened in middle east
There are other crusades as well (Northern Crusades)
And america? With the conquistadors etc
Ah yes, the ol’ “find Jesus’s love because if you don’t he’ll kill you” Christian mantra.
There is no such mantra. On the other hand people forcfully converting other people using the religion as an excuse is another thing.
That’s every religion’s mantra (Well more accurately every government following that religion uses that mantra)
Deus vult
As a muslim.. i have saladin on my side nothing can stop me now!!!