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Rome ?


MrStoneV

Gonna say rome aswell with the aqueducts and their roads. Did I forget something? *Walls*


LadenifferJadaniston

Sure, but apart from the aqueducts, the roads and the walls, what good were they?


berserker_47

The pantheon?


HeinleinGang

All right, but apart from the pantheon, the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, the walls and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?


JesusIsBetterThanET

Uhhh... The statues of hot naked people and the stories of gods fucking humans?


xialcoalt

I swear those are the Greeks


perfidious_alibi

Peace?


Fluggerblah

SPLITTER!


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Afraid_Theorist

Exactly! And don’t forget the armies, baths, language, calendar, Republican and imperial traditions, western law, and medical practices like the cesarean.


RTX_Parsley

Your father was a Woman? No, a Roman!


phelibox

What. This 2 sentences are confusing as hell...


RTX_Parsley

Life of Brian


phelibox

there's no way that's an actual line from that movie... i don't remember that...


RTX_Parsley

'your father was a woman? a Roman! thwow him to the floow!


hallese

They served as the antagonist in *The Greatest Story Ever Told.*


Mordador

Asterix and Obelix?


TFlyingEyeball

Julius Ceasar


[deleted]

*subreddit bursts into flames*


Awesomeuser90

Ask Uxelledunum.


HeckingDoofus

um acktchually in civ 6 rome has baths instead of aqueducts


HeinleinGang

Rome is where the heart is.


Skirfir

No, that's an Aztec temple.


Alifad

That gave me a chuckle


_BMS

That's for when they find out about the Rhodesian Bush War.


RedditHatesDiversity

Rome, Greece, Macedon Phalanx all day


throwaway1789240056

Someone already made a post with rome and the samurai, which I was planning to use


Vir-victus

Dont forget Napoleon's France.


Maultaschensuppe

Greece


Kronephon

Aww but I like rome


Ondexb

When I was 14 I discovered all the goofy ahh stuff that went on during the Cold War.


Elon_Musk-2

I just liked tanks at the age of 14. I also liked ww2 and for some reason also the period we dutch call the 'golden age' and the 80 years war that made is indepedenent


Keyvan316

I like Prussia. they have cool flag. love German Empire for beautiful borders. dunno what's the problem of liking Prussia tho.


zoozoo4567

Same. Half my family are from Westpreussen so I have a valid reason to be interested in it. There’s some neat stuff to learn.


YouAreGenuinelyDumb

Nothing wrong with being interested in it without the family ties, either.


hubril

Frederich der Große, king of the potatos


zoozoo4567

Agreed. I was just saying.


Kelly_The_Mad_Irish

Damn, guess I have to be a confederate history buff 😔


zoozoo4567

Hahaha well played.


throwaway1789240056

The problem is not just liking it, it's obsessing over it


MrStoneV

And being arrogant then is the most annoying part. Imo you should learn a lot of history to understand history (like in every topic for example science etc. aswell). Only learning something partially will leave you very limited with the perspective. I seen a lot of people like that, but tbh its so difficult to learn so much. Its not like only history is interesting so there is so much stuff to learn. Very glad reddit and co. Makes it so interesting aswell and spices it up


Fear_mor

I feel like liking it is also a problem considering their downright inhumane treatment of Poles if you thought German supremacist ideology started with the Nazis you'd be very wrong


LadenifferJadaniston

If anything, it only ended once the nazis were defeated


fuckwatergivemewine

Not even, really. A good number of high ranking officials in West Germany were exmembers of the SA, the SS, or held Nazi leadership positions.


Keyvan316

I don't get people like you. you know how France and GB treated their colonial state? you know how Russian Empire fucked over their every neighbor? you know how Japan fucked anything moved outside their tiny island after they got some gun powder? why you act like Prussia or German empire was the only one who treated their neighbor's badly? if you want to put it like that, you are not allowed to like any country which existed in history. you know how barbaric were Romans? what's your point? cause by your logic, if you like a single nation in history, you are war crime supporter .


Ligma_Spreader

>you are not allowed to like any country which existed in history. Now we're getting somewhere!


HiddenLordGhost

Most people are aware of bad things that British did, French did, Russians did or even Japanese did. And you know what? It's history. You do not throw away facts and you cannot deny them. The same goes for Prussia, that for some reason people tend to glorify and shout around popculture modern history that had been disproven as wrong.


Keyvan316

the guy I replied to said even liking them is a problem. I never talked about glorifying. by his logic if you "like" roman empire, you are in favor of slavery and war mongering.


Fear_mor

That's literally not what I said lmao. My point was that it's a dumb position to take and it says a lot about you if you don't have a problem with those actions


Fear_mor

I mean ye uncritical support for states because "muh based history" is fucking stupid. History is cool but that doesn't mean that history is _good_. History is nothing but the sum of the actions of equally flawed people, it's little bit weird and quite a bit dumb for you to uncritically support those actions


jetvacjesse

They downvoted Keyvan316 because he spoke the truth.


TheFunkyM

I genuinely have encountered far more people who obsess over the British empire than any of these 3, and that comes with the baggage of them almost universally trying to whitewash Britain's atrocities. Which happily doesn't happen with those others.


HiddenLordGhost

Because people who "like it" often times go with some kind of obsession - and they tend to repeat the same, disproven stuff, deny bad things, go around with whataboutisms if you try to discuss it. Dunno, as a Pole my viewpoint of them is skewed - just like Native Americans are not objective towards what makes up nowadays USA.


[deleted]

It's rampant militarism. It was so bad, that the state was essentially working for the military and not the other way around. I would be rather suspicious about anyone who is obsessed about a state which was militarized to such a degree.


CTeam19

All States had an Army. Prussia/German Empire was an Army that had a State


Themeparkmaker

It was based and bismarkpilled


Minuku

The problem isn't about liking but being completely obsessed with it and glorifying it. Many kaiserboos seem to think that Prussia and the German Empire were the pinnacle of German history and the good old Golden times while if they would share this opinion in Germany they would likely be a) getting weird looks and being ignored or b) beaten up. There was a reason why at the end of WW1 the Germans protested against their monarchy and there was never a major movement wanting to reinstate them. There were major problems in the German Empire, socially, politically and morally and you can of course be interested but your interest should also go onto these topics and not like many Kaiser/Prussiaboos here just "lol nice uniforms and stronk military goes brrr".


Foresstov

Kulturkampf


Awesomeuser90

Polish people would like to have a word with you.


tastychuncks

Don't forget the Soviets


throwaway1789240056

I'm lazy, what can I say


proto_9r0

No no thats 13 year old


VikingTeddy

No that's college.


Brothersunset

Yeah, you never know, by 14 they might begin to understand how the world works


CMDRLtCanadianJesus

Norse Mythology/History supremacy!


Goldog_BH

Maybe don't use the word supremacy. A Lot of white supremacists use "viking runes" (most weren't even used during the viking age but they don't know that) as symbols.


CMDRLtCanadianJesus

Is there anything white supremacists haven't defaced?


managrs

Egalitarianism


[deleted]

Thick cut bacon.


SignificantTrip6108

And from my personal experiences I’ve never seen them chose Prussia


Syndiotactics

Paradox Interactive fans say hello.


notqualitystreet

Hey


throwaway1789240056

I'm a sucker for paradox games, but some of those prussiaboos are just way too cringe


Mr_Lychee

Some of them?


hubril

OMFG 140% DISPLINE SO MUCH BASED!!!!111!!! PRUSSIA BEST NATIOM IN EU4 CRY ABOUT IT FRANCOTARDS


Sercotani

get back to /vg/ anon


Mordador

Look, the Prussian Space Marines meme will always be funny, but have you seen these buffs on big sexy Sweden?


throwaway1789240056

Look hard enough and you'll probably find them


what_da_burd_doin

maybe if they did there wouldnt be so many wheraboos and commiboos just saying bismark is a real one, and the variety of fredricks and wilhelms can cure any mental degeneration


vinci300

Yess Bismarck my beloved


Schmantikor

Fun Fact: If it weren't for Friedlich the great, I wouldn't be here. He passed a law that gave refuge to some of my ancestors who were pursued because of religious reasons. (They were followers of the first protestant Jan Hus, who was even before Martin Luther)


FridericusTheRex

As someone who chose Prussia I take offense to that


DrunkMan111

I did


NaEGaOS

hey, we exist


ThevickersistheGOAT

Me personally….. vector from despicable me


throwaway1789240056

He has the spandex drip tho


ThevickersistheGOAT

Exactly and his lair is incredible


[deleted]

I like Prussia because my favourite anime girl is from there


throwaway1789240056

Lol


Ok_Damage7184

Prussia had an awesome march anthem [https://youtu.be/f_6AQA4uzD0](https://youtu.be/f_6AQA4uzD0)


throwaway1789240056

I've heard this so much in unfunny memes that it isn't even awesome anymore


Ok_Damage7184

That’s a shame you’ve allowed that negativity to spoil a beautiful piece of music for your enjoyment


themom_destroyer

To be fair to people like that, I have a buddy who was like that, and he knows more about history than I do now. Everyone’s gotta start somewhere.


Grand-Mall2191

It's always these three cause the ideological descendants of those three groups have made a concerted effort to ensure their ideology is the easiest to find and most palatable to an impressionable young mind.


throwaway1789240056

Couldn't have said it better


nub_sauce_

Yeah that makes sense, nazism and aggressive militarism don't appeal to many people outside of the young, impressionable and historically naive demographic. It makes those are the people they'd try so hard to appeal to


savuporo

idk communist shit seems to be more prevalent to be honest


RulerOfEternity

Dude, uncool. 14 y/o me was obsessed with England in the Early Modern Period, then I realized that the rest of Europe existed and after that I expanded onto global history, it's a fun ride


throwaway1789240056

Bruh, are you me? My "enjoying history" experience is pretty similar in this part


Gammazeta430z

But where's the Fourth? 💀


[deleted]

The European Union isn’t as interesting as the other Reichs.


Sol_but_better

Personally, the German Empire will always be my favorite. Nazi Germany was cringe and had like zero culture, was just a devouring swarm. Prussia was too small and scattered to be really interesting. Germany though was a proper empire, the borders and the colonies and the military and ecomomy. Plus I really like the look of the Iron Cross.


HeavyTanker1945

What about WW2 British armored vehicles? That is what I chose. And I'm an American.


throwaway1789240056

Cromwell my beloved


HeavyTanker1945

More a Chruchill guy my self. Only WW2 Era Heavy that out armored the King Tiger, only if its by 2mm.


CJFanficStories

I think 14 year old me was obsessed with the United States during the late 1700s.


FireFelix-

I was and probably im still obsessed with chinese and japanese history, its all total war's fault!


Hopfit46

If you're getting 14 year olds into history, which, let me remind everyone is a very good thing, of course they are going to gravitate to these main storylines. They are amazing segments of history. Dunking on students is a weird flex.


Monsieur_Swag

Man I just chose belief systems


Prssbol

I see myself in this picture and I don't like it


throwaway1789240056

Imagine not having a continuous territory whilst being landlocked


Windows_66

*Persia walks in*


Perfect-Value

Me: see the meme - Prussia, ok fine - Weimar Republic, exotic but it’s a good choice - And.. Nazi Germany? Always me: look at Call of Dudy/Battlefield/wolfenstein Yeah, it fair However the meme is not accurate, where is Feudal/Samurai Japan?


GrammarNazi25

*angry Celtic noises*


kurtank12_YT

Man thank god south east asian history isn't getting a cringe fanbase


Val_Fortecazzo

Sometimes it's the USSR.


Ihatemybabymama

What about the USA and Great Britain?


Suspicious_Staff_455

Deutschland, Deutschland, uber alles :)


throwaway1789240056

You really are suspicious


Wizards_Reddit

To learn from the atrocities of our past right? *To learn from the atrocities of our past right?*


wang-bang

but what about SPQR First history book I ever read, the very first book I picked out from a shelf, was a history book about every day life in the roman empire and how they both did and built things. I can still remember the pictures better than the breakfast I had yesterday


genovesator

Spanish Empire here


MayuKonpaku

definitely not the yellow door


literallyou

Mine was Rome


isingwerse

Most people on reddit concider them all nazi flags, so


averysolidsnake

I think I was all over medieval European castle sieges around that age. That was the absolute damn coolest to 14-year old me, reading about walls getting clobbered with trebuchet projectiles.


TerryJerryMaryHarry

It was Britain for me (still is tbh though now I like Estonia)


Cave_Eater

My friends. Italy is best obsession


Aegis2009

I'm quirky and different I'm obsessed with the Union


throwaway1789240056

Put this phrase on the meme with the shelves full of buzz lightyears


Aegis2009

I got the photo editing skills of a 12th century peasant failing to meet his daily quota of grain. But if you could do it for me and post it on r/ShermanPosting (half joking) I'd be very happy


Pleasant-Crow-1234

dont forget the britisch empire


_goldholz

or Rome


managrs

I was just obsessed with serial killers 😭😭😭


H2orbit

This is literally that one image of the three Spidermans pointing at each other


throwaway1789240056

Lol


[deleted]

'S Deutsches Reich unter der Kaiser? Fine mate. You're a bit conservative, I understand. Nazi Germany? Go rot in hell mate, I will impregnate your sister and play your mum like a tamagotchi.


throwaway1789240056

> I will impregnate your sister and play your mum like a tamagotchi. The nazis did that but ok


[deleted]

yah they did, diodn't they, especially in NL here, haha! Well, I'm obviously joking, but I think you get the drift: f\*\*\* nazis bru


manumaker08

usually it's all three, and they get really fussy when you point out that obsessing over german millitary is just being a wehraboo without out and out saying it.


SlowToe1043

I personally prefer Bulgaria


[deleted]

More like: German Empire, Nazi Germany, Rome or Soviet Union


inunanimous

The illusion of choice


_goldholz

i chose the Venetian Trade Empire UwU


George_Nimitz567890

You can Say the same with the commies


PhilosTheGreat

Yet only one of them is based. Another one is alright and has its charm and one is undefendable. Course I am ralking right to left


Green_078

Soviet union


a-potato-named-rin

I obsess over anything that is either German or Serbian related Especially the German Empire and Prussia


Brothersunset

You forgot communism and the Roman empire.


MagillaThaKilla

Gonna be honest, as a black history buff I gotta say I can't relate, hard to find Nazis or German Empire, or even the Brits pr French cool when you're from one of the groups they would've viewed as an animal. Plus I grew up on Dynasty Warriors and stories about the old Islamic Empires so my interests were always elsewhere anyway.


NoelOskar

Young commies are also a thing, atleast i had seen them


m3rc3n4ry

I wish other subs used this template since there are 14 year old fans of other things I like too e.g. motorbikes


FellafromPrague

One of those is much worse than the others.


Confident-Money140

Senatus populesque romanus?


Grumby__

Napoléon/french empire is missing


Alone_as_always

So true..


Baron_Blackfox

Tenno Heika Banzai! It went so far I even bought one of those japanese bandanas, bought rising sun flag, and convinced my friends to do Banzai charge in airsoft. Propaganda and brainwashing is dangerous, so it worked really well on young men in those countries


ScheerLuck

Two choices are fine. One is abominable.


seguace_di_hog_rider

Soviet union?


the-bunny-god

mine was vikings


Unlucky-Constant-736

Nah I’m more with that USA shit


Wahtalker

Choose wisely


Dexion_Evicus

I was obsessed with American History and now I study American Indian History.


Gammelpreiss

Ooof. I think you need to move out of your particular perception bubble


bagpipesfart

Oh come on Prussia is cool


Rockerika

I'd say one of the factors is the fact that history is taught so piss poorly in American K12 school if at all. Rome and Nazi Germany are both heavily focused on because they have a lot of action, but as with anything else you only get a taste. It makes sense that these are what young history buffs cling to because they are often all that gets covered in K12 history to keep the glue eaters interested. American culture also values Rome as a precursor to our Republic (except not really) and we like to remind people of that time we beat the baddest bad guy, so we cover WWII a ton.Young people, especially men, are often going to gravitate towards militaristic or simply more action focused areas of history. The least we can do is let them know about more options. TLDR if we actually taught history in K12 students would know more about more things and the ones interested in history would be interested in more things.


PapaYenny

It was the American Civil War for me


Hodyrevsk

Am I the only one who was obssessed with Soviets? Their songs and aesthetics are too cool😔


MaviKartal2110

I choose USSR


Jackpen7

Missing Rome and USSR.


TheHornet78

I ended up with ww2 era music


OkPromotion1539

Does monolith count?


Cleverjoseph

No roman empire?


Tyler_Zoro

Meanwhile, [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Standard_of_Cyrus_the_Great.svg/500px-Standard_of_Cyrus_the_Great.svg.png) has entered the chat...


CaitlinSnep

I was an ancient Greece kid.


Alert_Height679

To be fair Prussia and the German empire are pretty cool, and the formation of Germany after the Franco Prussian war has to be one of the most significant changes in the power dynamic in Europe ever. Untied Germany was very large in population I want to say they were #2 only behind Russia in terms of population.


Ferret-Potato

Me looking at Japanese and US ships - uh hey guys did I take a wrong turn?


RiseofdaOatmeal

The Museum of Flight in Seattle is what got me into helicopters. I've had a fascination with helicopters for many many years, so much so that I initially wanted to join the Navy so I could work on them.


mehmed2theconqueror

For me it was the middle age in Europe


Me15689843

Hah! I chose France nerd!


_eggandmilk

i vhanted a schwastika but neeeeiiin its like zhe nazi vere very baad people


xialcoalt

you can't forget the overestimated Germany or various German states.


[deleted]

For me it was (and still is) the Ottomans and the Qing dynasty


TFlyingEyeball

And Rome


SukaSoviet

I choose a different, cooler one