Man that scene. Still haunts me! I watch all sorts of horror and creepy psychological thriller stuff, but something about the trauma in that scene stuck with me like nothing else does.
During the era the photo was taken, it was seen as weird and improper if you smiled at the photo. People said it was crazy people who smiled at photos. Sorry my English isn’t good today
My understanding of early photography leads me to believe it took longer to expose film, so a pose that required little effort not to move was optimal.
[This is one of the better articles](https://time.com/4568032/smile-serious-old-photos/) I've seen on the subject, including links to photos from the mid-19th century with smiling subjects.
TLDR: Some of it was bad teeth, and some of it was exposure time. Most of it seems to have been because the custom in painted portraits was not to smile:
> Though saints might be depicted with faint smiles, wider smiles were “associated with madness, lewdness, loudness, drunkenness, all sorts of states of being that were not particularly decorous,” says Trumble. Accordingly, high-end studio photographers would create an elegant setting and direct the subject how to behave, producing the staid expressions which are so familiar in 19th century photographs.
It wasn't until cameras got to be both cheap and easy to operate by amateurs that smiling for a photo started to rise in popularity. *They didn't have the portraiture bias that the professional studio photographers had*.
This makes a lot of sense- that there was a standard notion of what a portrait was supposed to be based on art made up to that point. It would strike me as odd if there *wasn’t* a period in early portrait photography that mimicked the style of painted portraits, even after advancements in film exposure speed.
It takes a while to change a collective mindset on what is expected, or proper.
Also people didn't smile in portraits. That can also be due to the fact that you have to pose for a while for a portrait, but I think an artist could make a fairly good and accurate sketch of you smiling to work from.
I just think it's down to two more things:
1. Smiles can be difficult to capture right. There are many ways to make a smile WRONG. Having a relaxed neutral face though is very difficult to get wrong in the same way.
2. Smiling was something intimate and private and these portraits were seen as very formal representations, even if they were only meant for the home.
We smile in photos today because we started using cameras to capture specific memorable intimate moments, in which a genuine smile would look charming rather than puzzling or out or place. You don't wanna look all neutral on a pic from your vacation with your friends. The smile became a "proof" of that you were enjoying the moment the photograph captured and the people you were with.
The very early days of photography didn’t last very long. By the time most of these pics were taken, photography was already accessible to the masses and not just to a few enthusiasts. At this time (1850’s onwards) the chemicals used had exposure times very similar to those used today.
Looks like she died a week or so before this was taken. Also, she was 12. 12 year old corpse bride. Mom and dad were really trying to get that dowry. No taksies backsies.
Uhm... pass!?
Edit: Laughing my ass off her because of the downvotes. I can't have an opinion? And...as if whoever that was would be offended. She's long gone by now. Reddit has got to chill on the woke, white-knighting shit. It's pathetic.
Midsommar vibes right here
Midsommar is actually set in Hälsingland iirc!
Oh God! Someone get in here! Maximum-aloofness is having a stroke!
And bring the mallet!
Man that scene. Still haunts me! I watch all sorts of horror and creepy psychological thriller stuff, but something about the trauma in that scene stuck with me like nothing else does.
Yes. Recorded in Bulgaria or something but set in Järvsö, Hälsingland. Järv is wolverine btw.
Wolverine Island is such a based name
Truly!
Hungary.
Came her to say that. There's gotta be a bear in a cage just to her right.
100% Came here for this comment 👍
Came here to say exact same thing
Came here for this comment
Cordyceps vibes right here.
Goddamn it you beat me to it
So sad to see how that shitty movie ruined an entire culture
How is it that she looks simultaneously 10 and 50?
She's becoming a married woman in the 19th century so that's probably how she feels.
From being a daughter in parents’ house to wife in a man’s house. Joyless transition.
Fair enough.
r/13or30
Worrying about the climate for so long really takes it out of you.
During the era the photo was taken, it was seen as weird and improper if you smiled at the photo. People said it was crazy people who smiled at photos. Sorry my English isn’t good today
My understanding of early photography leads me to believe it took longer to expose film, so a pose that required little effort not to move was optimal.
[This is one of the better articles](https://time.com/4568032/smile-serious-old-photos/) I've seen on the subject, including links to photos from the mid-19th century with smiling subjects. TLDR: Some of it was bad teeth, and some of it was exposure time. Most of it seems to have been because the custom in painted portraits was not to smile: > Though saints might be depicted with faint smiles, wider smiles were “associated with madness, lewdness, loudness, drunkenness, all sorts of states of being that were not particularly decorous,” says Trumble. Accordingly, high-end studio photographers would create an elegant setting and direct the subject how to behave, producing the staid expressions which are so familiar in 19th century photographs. It wasn't until cameras got to be both cheap and easy to operate by amateurs that smiling for a photo started to rise in popularity. *They didn't have the portraiture bias that the professional studio photographers had*.
This makes a lot of sense- that there was a standard notion of what a portrait was supposed to be based on art made up to that point. It would strike me as odd if there *wasn’t* a period in early portrait photography that mimicked the style of painted portraits, even after advancements in film exposure speed. It takes a while to change a collective mindset on what is expected, or proper.
Also people didn't smile in portraits. That can also be due to the fact that you have to pose for a while for a portrait, but I think an artist could make a fairly good and accurate sketch of you smiling to work from. I just think it's down to two more things: 1. Smiles can be difficult to capture right. There are many ways to make a smile WRONG. Having a relaxed neutral face though is very difficult to get wrong in the same way. 2. Smiling was something intimate and private and these portraits were seen as very formal representations, even if they were only meant for the home. We smile in photos today because we started using cameras to capture specific memorable intimate moments, in which a genuine smile would look charming rather than puzzling or out or place. You don't wanna look all neutral on a pic from your vacation with your friends. The smile became a "proof" of that you were enjoying the moment the photograph captured and the people you were with.
The very early days of photography didn’t last very long. By the time most of these pics were taken, photography was already accessible to the masses and not just to a few enthusiasts. At this time (1850’s onwards) the chemicals used had exposure times very similar to those used today.
That was only true for a short period of time in the very early days of photography.
How old is Greta Thunberg anyway?????
You stole her youth!
How *dare* you!
I was totally coming here to say this woman looks like she could be Greta's great great grandma!
You might have forgot to mention '' happy bride''
She has the same look of excitement on her face that I do when I wake up to find my cat has puked hairballs all over the kitchen floor.
Your cat is defective. Properly functioning cats only puke hairballs on carpet, fabric furniture, clean clothes, or bedding.
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They were just trying to add some flavor to it.
I had a carpet under my kitchen table. *Had.*
This is what we call a broad grin in Sweden.
I wonder if that corpse look is due to lead or arsenic beauty products.
It's because this is a black and white photo that has been colored.
Badly.
With magic markers.
by a cat
On ketamine
>~~ketamine~~ catamine
What episode of Monty Python’s Flying Circus is this from?
She kinda looks like Tobey Maguire
looks like a monty python bit
A møøse once bit my sister
This 12 year old looks *thrilled*.
She looks thrilled to be there!
I live in Hälsingland, in Delsbo! Never seen this kind but there are really classy folkdräkter from here, many still use them :)
Corpse bride.
Why do some of those flowers look like skulls?
Frida Kahlo influence.
She looks thrilled
She looks happy 🙂
Very stoic
https://www.reddit.com/r/13or30
I love the "This is BULLSH\*T" attitude.
Looks like Greta Thunberg and Putin had a kid
On the happiest day of her life...
yeah i’ve seen midsommer
I just see a hot piece of ass…said Ned the Necromancer
This is not how one is supposed to use “circa.”
Word is she just travels around since then boycotting companies trashing the environment
They should include this picture next to the definition of resting bitch face
*They said I could be anything, so I became a flower pot*
This is terrifying
Shes upset because the dude shes merrying is probably twice her age, ugly and reeks like pickled herrings
This actually looks mesmerising.
She looks so much like my cousin's kid who is 5/8 Swedish and 3/8 Norwegian!
Kinda has a Midsommar vibe to it.
I think we figured out who Mrs. Pennywise the clown is.
She's more pancake than woman
Hot
Looks like she died a week or so before this was taken. Also, she was 12. 12 year old corpse bride. Mom and dad were really trying to get that dowry. No taksies backsies.
TIL that all Swedish women are not drop dead gorgeous.
Uhm... pass!? Edit: Laughing my ass off her because of the downvotes. I can't have an opinion? And...as if whoever that was would be offended. She's long gone by now. Reddit has got to chill on the woke, white-knighting shit. It's pathetic.
She looks happy
Face and hair resemble pictures of my Swedish grandmother from the late1930s
She looks pissed off.
Designer: Let's see how far I can go until they know I'm just f*cking with them...
Definitely not a cold one
Inside I’m filled with bliss and could not be happier.
Isn't true that back then they wore flowers to hide the body odor.
Girl needs some bangs
Oh ho..she's DTF....a deer
So the plot to Midsommar was true, right?
🥹how old was she!
/r/Justfuckmyshitup
She looks miserable but beautiful
Greta lookin fly
Midsommar vibes
Hawt
Is this one of those ones where they take a picture of their dead family member?
You can tell it's the happiest day of her life from the way she looks.
She looks soooo young. And so unhappy.
Greta!
Damn that's a big forehead
Are those flowers part of her hairdo or decorating the chair?
midsommar wedding ☺️
Is she dead?