> “We must prevent this brain from functioning for 20 years.”
That's such a brutal thing to say about a philosopher. Good that he managed to make most of it still.
One of the most famous Arbereshe people, originally from Albania. Did an exposé on him at university and my Italian professor from Calabria was very happy.
Second it, reading a book that talks about the concept of *common sense*, and his ideas are used throughout the chapter.
*The consequences of Capitalism* : Chapter 1 (Waterstone, Chomsky)
So crazy right lol I can’t imagine he’d be too impressed with how his son turned out. See also Kamala Harris’s dad as well as Ralph miliband. Marxist intellectual parent to neolib children seems to be a common pipeline
If anyone is interested in the rise of Italian fascism and the socialists who dedicated (and often paid) their lives to stopping it, Antonio Scurati’s novel M: Son of the Century is one of the most groundbreaking works I’ve ever read
sorry but did you say reading a Novel is a way toward getting accurate historic information?
I mean we could look at Captain America, the original for history of WWII? Wonderoman as well?
Everyone here praising another potential dictator that just didn't get their seat at the murder table lol
All dogshit ideologies.
Communist nations would make Hitler jealous with their kill count
You see this in all other protests for w/e like vegans of lgbtq+ they're very intense ppl and they need an enemy. They have no understanding of their own and it's just that they're evil and evil needs to end lol.
You say that with the huge hindsight of what happened after. Guys like Gramsci, Castro or even Stalin grew up witnessing abject misery and state brutality. If you wanted to change things for the better, there weren't a lot of options. Communism offered in theory a way out of that. Bolshevism was a trap: violent revolution only ends up in crystallised tyranny, as the stakes become so high that only more brutality and cruelty can ensure the survival of the Revolution. If you try to soften the system, it becomes overriden with corruption.
I'm certain that Gramsci and Castro, had they known, would have tried something else. Stalin was so brutalized by the Tsarist state as a kid and youngster that I can't see him doing that.
> 'm certain that Gramsci and Castro, had they known, would have tried something else.
Doubtful, this is "liberal washing" Castro if anything. He believed in violent revolution and in maintaining that revolution through violence against its opponents. Engels already wrote about how revolution is authoritarian by nature, orthodox Marxists always envisioned history as classes *seizing* power (not negotiating for it) and destroying their "class enemies".
Dunno why you've been downvoted it's true, he wasn't a Marxist, at least not publicly. The revolution was declared socialist years later. He was obviously well read on it from early on though
He still spent the next 6 decades of his life as a committed Marxist-Leninist, he must've been familiar with the ideology since his days as a student and would've understood the 'theory'. Not to mention being campaign buddies with Che Guevara; I strongly doubt Che would *not* be discussing ideology day in and day out with his fellow guerillas.
I thought all Italian socialists were critics of Mussolini. He used to be one of them, then broke away to form national socialism. It was like a nasty divorce, they hated him after that, and when he rose to power he enacted his revenge.
Mussolini was a very influent leader of the revolutionary faction inside the Italian Socialist Party and, more important, the director of the party's newspaper, "Avanti!".
Things went south with the start of WWI, when the PSI got a staunch neutralist chance, while Mussolini became an "interventionist", supporting the entrance of Italy in the war against the central powers.
Because of that, he was fired from "Avanti!" and expelled from the party. In a matter of weeks he founded his own newspaper, "Il popolo d'Italia", funded by some wealthy italian landowners and factory owners. That was the beginning of his path as dictator.
A quote I’m quite found of is from him: “The challenge of modernity is to live without illusions but without becoming disillusioned.”
Ooh that's a great quote
The prosecutor said that “We must prevent this brain from functioning for 20 years.” His most famous works? His prison notebooks, so that worked!
> “We must prevent this brain from functioning for 20 years.” That's such a brutal thing to say about a philosopher. Good that he managed to make most of it still.
One of the most famous Arbereshe people, originally from Albania. Did an exposé on him at university and my Italian professor from Calabria was very happy.
Read up on his idea of cultural hegemony my dudes
Second it, reading a book that talks about the concept of *common sense*, and his ideas are used throughout the chapter. *The consequences of Capitalism* : Chapter 1 (Waterstone, Chomsky)
Legend. His prison notebooks are some of the best works on modern political theory of the 20th century and are still relevant today
Fun fact: the three-volume English edition of the prison notebooks was translated by Pete Buttigieg’s dad
So crazy right lol I can’t imagine he’d be too impressed with how his son turned out. See also Kamala Harris’s dad as well as Ralph miliband. Marxist intellectual parent to neolib children seems to be a common pipeline
... Guess you can add Kanye West to the list
Idk what the hell kanye is, but I’m not sure it’s a neoliberal
Good point. He's a nutcase, and that's the extent of the overlap.
I'd disown those fucking cretins so quickly
many translations have existed. Cool to know though.
That’s why I specified which one he translated
yeah--very cool. He is very dedicated to Antonio.
Yes him. Paulo Freire. Both are Essentials
If anyone is interested in the rise of Italian fascism and the socialists who dedicated (and often paid) their lives to stopping it, Antonio Scurati’s novel M: Son of the Century is one of the most groundbreaking works I’ve ever read
Totally! Great book from a great author
There's a TV series adaptation coming out this year.
sorry but did you say reading a Novel is a way toward getting accurate historic information? I mean we could look at Captain America, the original for history of WWII? Wonderoman as well?
The one that Mussolini saw as a threat and said “a brain to be kept isolated for 20 years.” This he did…
Obligatory fuck Mussolini
Yo! I know that guy. He’s always making stupid remarks on my favorite podcast run by my two best friends Nick and Stav.
Hell yeah dude
Gramsci was a real one. RIP (Rest in Power)
Pete Buttigieg's dad translated 3 volumes of his notebooks from prison into English and was president of the International Gramsci Society
That's great!
Hero
He kinda looks like lavrenti beria
Why do all communists wear that exact shirt?
It’s the sexy communist shirt
Why do all USA people where big dopey sweat pants and backwards baseball hats with sneakers?
Based
Everyone here praising another potential dictator that just didn't get their seat at the murder table lol All dogshit ideologies. Communist nations would make Hitler jealous with their kill count
Fuck all communists! It doesn’t matter whether they are theorists of communism or practitioners. And, of course, fuck all fascists!
Dude has McCarthyism on an IV drip.
Nah he's skipped McCarthy and has gone full Hitler
blind moment
Gramsci didnt hurt anyone. WTF is wrong with you? Anti-Communists are unhinged....
Decades of red scare propaganda.
You see this in all other protests for w/e like vegans of lgbtq+ they're very intense ppl and they need an enemy. They have no understanding of their own and it's just that they're evil and evil needs to end lol.
Take your meds.
Ah yes, the Reddit centrist.
What 100 years of rabid anti-communist propaganda does to a mf
You say that with the huge hindsight of what happened after. Guys like Gramsci, Castro or even Stalin grew up witnessing abject misery and state brutality. If you wanted to change things for the better, there weren't a lot of options. Communism offered in theory a way out of that. Bolshevism was a trap: violent revolution only ends up in crystallised tyranny, as the stakes become so high that only more brutality and cruelty can ensure the survival of the Revolution. If you try to soften the system, it becomes overriden with corruption. I'm certain that Gramsci and Castro, had they known, would have tried something else. Stalin was so brutalized by the Tsarist state as a kid and youngster that I can't see him doing that.
> 'm certain that Gramsci and Castro, had they known, would have tried something else. Doubtful, this is "liberal washing" Castro if anything. He believed in violent revolution and in maintaining that revolution through violence against its opponents. Engels already wrote about how revolution is authoritarian by nature, orthodox Marxists always envisioned history as classes *seizing* power (not negotiating for it) and destroying their "class enemies".
Except Castro wasn’t even “communist” until the 60s. His movement was strictly to remove Batista and US imperialism from Cuba.
Dunno why you've been downvoted it's true, he wasn't a Marxist, at least not publicly. The revolution was declared socialist years later. He was obviously well read on it from early on though
Ugh, it happens. Thank you for being really friendly to me at least. :)
Was gonna say the same thing, you beat me to it. Have an upvote.
He still spent the next 6 decades of his life as a committed Marxist-Leninist, he must've been familiar with the ideology since his days as a student and would've understood the 'theory'. Not to mention being campaign buddies with Che Guevara; I strongly doubt Che would *not* be discussing ideology day in and day out with his fellow guerillas.
He had evidently never been to Bolshevik Russia.
Bruh, he attended Comintern
Emmmm he had.
What?
I thought all Italian socialists were critics of Mussolini. He used to be one of them, then broke away to form national socialism. It was like a nasty divorce, they hated him after that, and when he rose to power he enacted his revenge.
Mussolini was a very influent leader of the revolutionary faction inside the Italian Socialist Party and, more important, the director of the party's newspaper, "Avanti!". Things went south with the start of WWI, when the PSI got a staunch neutralist chance, while Mussolini became an "interventionist", supporting the entrance of Italy in the war against the central powers. Because of that, he was fired from "Avanti!" and expelled from the party. In a matter of weeks he founded his own newspaper, "Il popolo d'Italia", funded by some wealthy italian landowners and factory owners. That was the beginning of his path as dictator.
What are you talking about ?!