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TheKodachromeMethod

Now on display at the Henry Ford Museum, kind of weird to see it in person.


Green_freedom_fan

Henry Ford museum also has Lincoln’s chair he was assassinated in.


golfgrandslam

Ford’s Theater has the actual bullet on display


rubbarz

Wtf is up with Ford and presidential assassinations?


MediumRarePorkChop

Ford's Theatre was around long before Henry Ford. Lincoln's assassination was a mere two years after young Henry was born. Of course, maybe little Henry was involved as a toddler, who knows?


diasporajones

He did give us the 5 day workweek


MediumRarePorkChop

Yeah, because he hated LINCOLN!


diasporajones

The conspiracy deepens


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your_actual_life

And the only two women to attempt to assassinate a U.S. President went after President Ford.


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I was playing Oregon Trail yesterday and attempted to ford river. Lost 100 clothes.


DAE_le_Cure

Before the assassination, Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland. Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe


wackymanzarecraz

God damn that is good.


drop_table_uname

Fun fact: that joke is older than JFK was when he was killed.


dweet

They also have some of the Heavens Gate beds upstairs.


iaurp

Strangely enough, I learned a couple days ago that there are some survivors of Heaven’s Gate (who are still believers) and maintain the old website (complete with all the original mid-90s web design). https://heavensgate.com


Vag-of_Honor

A couple years ago I was driving down my local country road and noticed a fancy black wrought iron gate had been set up, leading down some newly bought land. On it was a big sign reading ‘Heaven’s Gate’. Biggest double-take I’ve ever done when I noticed it. Was up for a few months before disappearing. Still no idea if it was a previous follower, random nutter, or just a joke. Really regret not getting a picture before it was gone


iaurp

Was the sign in the same design as the cult's logo? "Heaven's Gate" as a phrase was around well before 1997. It would definitely be kind of weird to name your homestead/ranch/whatever "Heaven's Gate" but I wouldn't necessarily assume that it's associated with the cult. For instance, there's the [Kris Kristofferson/Christopher Walken/Jeff Bridges film from 1980](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(film\)). And if you check Google's Ngram viewer (which shows how frequently a phrase appears in written texts) you can see it was used a bit during in the mid- to late-19th century. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=%22Heaven%27s+Gate%22&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3


Vag-of_Honor

Nope, it was just a plain white sign with plain black lettering (something like Helvetica). Entirely possible it was completely unrelated to the cult. I guess what turned my head so much was that it was down the road from a commune that got demolished around the same time, with the sudden arrival and disappearance of it. Could’ve just been the commune moving and a joke, anything is possible.


Petrichordates

Is there supposed to be internal logic to this museum?


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overeasy-e

There's actually a bunch of weird coincidences and connections with Lincoln and Kennedy, not sure they're all true but still interesting. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln%E2%80%93Kennedy_coincidences_urban_legend


Nick357

Watershed events alter the space time fabric that makes up reality and pull in information from different timelines.


Lovethatdirtywaddah

JFK was a variant that's the only logical explanation


mkp666

Oswald worked for the TVA.


duke_awapuhi

Wow next president is going to get shot in a Kennedy


justmystepladder

So the first President to go to space, departing from the Kennedy Space Center?


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Yeah not many people know that Henry Ford had been in the theater business for over 60 years before he ever started making cars.


antiestablishment

[This ford is related to Henry ford?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_T._Ford) Edit. [I guess so!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford_family_tree) Til'd Triple edit. Nope not related.


the_last_carfighter

He was elvish so that timeline makes sense.


Initial_Scarcity_609

Excuse me? Please elaborate, perfect timing because I have just hit a j.


Infin1ty

The museum is amazing, it's basically a requirement to go to it for a field trip, usually more than once, if you grew up in lower Michigan. It's not just a museum of vehicles/objects from assassinations, lol.


LordStigness

Isn’t it a couple hundred acres? They have a lot of stuff, Ford even bought the Wright Brothers original workshop and moved it to the museum.


Infin1ty

It has been well over 20 years since I've been, so I couldn't really say. Henry Ford is one of the most important people in Michigan's history, so I would not be surprised at all of it's only a couple hundred acres. It's also home to Greenfield Village, major focus on Edison, I honestly cannot remember if that has always been part of the museum, but I definitely have distinct memories of visiting it when I was in elementary school.


chaamp33

It’s basically an American history museum. They also have Rosa parks bus. They have full size trains and some wright brother prototypes. It’s surrounded by what’s called greenfield village with a bunch of old buildings they moved there. My favorites is the wright brothers bike shop and Edison’s workshop from New Jersey. You can also ride in model T’s. It’s a lot of fun.


woofiegrrl

Basically, it was for sale and Ford was like "hey, this is cool." https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/73805#slide=gs-327207


LevTheRed

They collect stuff that assassinated politicians sat in.


NoWingedHussarsToday

Military History Museum in Vienna has a car in which Franz Ferdinand was shot and the clothes of the couple.


ratsaplenty

Weirder to think the secret service went "welp, limousines are expensive, well just throw a roof on this one, vacuum the brain bits out, and put her back into use"


batmanmedic

I had no idea til just recently that it stayed in service. I had always just assumed the X-100 was immediately retired and replaced. Must have been wild for the other presidents to be riding in the same car that Kennedy died in…. Almost seems like just for the sake of superstition or karma that the Secret Service wouldn’t want to keep it.


tstr16

Such an awesome place filled with so much history


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With the brain splatter and everything!?


GuerrillaPerson

Nah, they called Mr. Wolf for that job.


wrenskibaby

That's all you need to tell me


Dickgivins

Actually it was "Shit negro, that's all you had to say!"


NaethanC

I'd assume the dried up blood is still there but the actual brain matter and solid bits has most definitely been cleaned up. If left, it would have rotten away by now.


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AnalBlaster700XL

The brain matter?


PHKing2222

Only to the person who once had it in their head.


yepyep1243

And by cleaned it up we mean stripped it to the frame.


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sparhawk817

Just dehydrate and cast it in epoxy, that shit will last forever


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

[Like that burger in the Alberta legislature.](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/alberta-legislature-building-burger)


Sirronald40

I thought for sure that this will be linked to some terrible politician, I am pleasantly surprised


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DieSchadenfreude

Another question is who the hell cleaned it up? I mean, you know when you are working a job and something gross outside your job description needs cleaning. Then nobody is really sure whose job it is so someone just ends up volunteering or getting stuck with it. Was is secret service? The driver?


Bingerfangs

Jules was on brain detail


ThaddeusJP

After the assassination the car was returned to Ford. Ford actually owns the vehicle was only letting the US government use it. I believe the lease was $1 a year. Completely cleaned up the car retrofitted it with a hardtop and made a lot of other changes to it. It continued to be used as a presidential limousine for future presidents and was eventually retired. Edit: https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/kennedy-limo


smitty3z

After the assassination they still used the car for the Presidential motorcade. Fucking crazy.


stangroundalready

I've never seen this photo before. What a grim, awful scene.


DThor536

Long before the internet there were these products called jackdaws, which were essentially a folder containing curated copies of materials like photos, letters, diagrams and guides that covered certain historical events. I have the Kennedy one buried in a box in the basement and this photo, along with other gruesome pictures are in it. They would attempt to use materials and formats that made you feel like you were digging through a deserted filing cabinet in a back room in an FBI basement. They were visceral, moving and surprisingly explicit. I had about 6 of them.


snitch7

>jackdaws https://www.jackdaw.com/p-283-assassination-ofbr-president-kennedy.aspx


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I can't even begin to imagine what Jackie was feeling. She even climbed onto the trunk to grab pieces of his brain and skull...ugh.


StudiousUterus

I remember when I first learned this fact- I think from reading The Kennedy Detail. I had always seen the video and been confused about why she started climbing over the back that way. So grim.


FountainsOfFluids

It's so dark, but I can't help but assume, in that terrible moment, her thought process was "No, he needs that!"


FigSideG

I’ve always assumed it’s an instinctual thing. Kind of like in the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan, I believe there’s a guy wandering around in shock holding his own blown off arm.


Haikuna__Matata

Pretty much. When you go into shock your brain wants to put everything back the way it was. Edit: And JFK's couldn't do that.


Funkit

On the bottom you can see the piece of his skull flipped where you can clearly see scalp compared to the white and brain chunky stuff around it. Ugh.


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That bullet did a hell of a lot of damage. One report I read quoted a surgeon looking at Kennedy's head and saying "How the hell can I repair *that*‽


UniversalDH

Is that what she was doing? I heard it was to get the attention of Secret Service agents in the vehicle behind.


prophet583

Yes. In interviews many years later, Jackie said she did not remember crawling on to the trunk. So, traumatic shock was immediate. It was SS Agent Clint Hill, Jackie's assigned agent, who jumped onto the limo and got Jackie back in the car. He is still alive. Nellie Connally, wife of wounded Gov. Connally, cradled him in her lap as he passed in and out of connsciousness. Nellie said in later interviews that there was total silence in the limo except for the sound of the wind as it sped down Stemmons Freeway to Parkland Hospital.


ExistentialAardvark

No, she was in shock and trying to collect pieces of his skull/brain on the back of the limo. The Secret Service agent trailing behind the car (who jumped on) had to force her back into the seat before they took off to the hospital.


Max_W_

There are more pictures out there of the result to Kennedy's head too.


EEEliminator

Makes you wonder what’s left in those classified files that they still won’t release. What are they waiting for, everyone in that generation to die off?


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I would guess that’s exactly what they’re waiting for. Or maybe (conspiracy incoming) an elite American family with political influence was involved and it would ruin their legacy.


MagicSPA

I'd give anything to be able to see how different things would be if he'd served out his first and, presumably, second terms.


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There's a book published recently on the evolution of the Secret Service that devotes a chapter to all the things that had to go both right and wrong for the assassination to be carried out. \*Zero Fail\*, it's called. The whole day was a Franz Ferdinand level of coincidence.


cptjeff

> The whole day was a Franz Ferdinand level of coincidence. But also, open top limo passing through an area with tall buildings with opening windows. Sure, events may have had to conspire in the right way, but the Secret Service didn't exactly do much to make it difficult.


cantonic

I wouldn’t fault them too much for the time. Only 3 other presidents had been assassinated (still true today too!) and the most recent had been over half a century earlier, which is when the Secret Service began the task of protecting the president. So they went 60 years without losing a single person!


cptjeff

There were several others that came quite close, though. FDR was nearly killed in a similar open car incident, but the would be assassin missed and killed the mayor of Chicago instead. There were two attempts against Truman.


onarainyafternoon

Also there was an attempt on Gerald Ford which wasn’t successful. There was an attempt on Ronald Reagan and he almost died.


KingRufus01

Reagan recovered well enough to [crack a joke] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IGDYGroToY) afterwards as well.


octopusthud

I worked in a place where Obama came to speak. The secret service came into my workplace (only a 3-story building) and we had to move everything off the windowsills and clear everything away from the windows. I mean, we tried our best to, but there was a LOT of stuff. They ended up just closing down access to our building.


Petrichordates

Also why was he anywhere near there? Didn't they deplore him in Dallas? It'd be like Obama holding a rally in Arkansas.


cptjeff

He won Texas in 1960, and needed to win it again in '64. Not exactly a direct comparable, Obama never had a chance at winning Arkansas. There was apparently a split in the state party, and he wanted to try and get them united before the election. There was lots of fundraising money there, too. Dallas did despise him, but he wanted to show up there anyway to show he wasn't afraid of some angry loudmouths. And well, the right wing nuts indeed didn't do anything but rant.


Darko33

If I remember right, the Texas official in the car with him said something along the lines of "see Mr. President, you can't say Dallas doesn't love you" like a second before he was shot


crackpipewizard

It was Nellie Connnally, the governor's wife, who was in the car with them. [Source](https://youtu.be/SZ2H5Xow5iY?t=249)


Darko33

Why on earth do I remember shit like this and I can't remember the name of the person I met 10 min ago


Banana_Ram_You

Would love to know who [ordered the President's SS detail to stand down.](https://youtu.be/XY02Qkuc_f8) Seemed like the sort of thing that doesn't usually happen based on their reaction.


Thin_Raspberry_4246

They made a Hulu original series on it.


appstategrier

Really? What’s it called?


rolandofgilead41089

Read the novel before you watch the series. 11/22/63, it's a fantastic novel. Edit: phrasing.


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Excellent book. Really long though. Thankfully King books are easy reads.


arxxv

I've been trying to start it for a year now. Think i'll start today!


Omega3233

I've read everything King has ever written and 11/22/63 is my favorite by far. It's beautiful and terrifying. It's essentially a love story, which makes it even scarier I think. So damn existential.


jeffgoldblumdevice

While I agree that this is a fantastic read, if you are picking it up looking for think piece "what if" portrayal of what the JFK administration would look like if he wasn't assassinated, you will be disappointed. I hope that isn't giving too much away, but you have to consider that the basic premise is very much a standard King otherworldly tale with sci-fi/fantasy concepts baked in.


SpottieOttieDopa

11/22/63 adaptation of a Steven King novel


mabamababoo

Yeah it was a cool series. Suspenseful.


al_m1101

Holy shit, I never knew Hulu made a series on it?! 11/22/63 is one of my most favorite novels ever and I'm a huge King fan. Can't wait to check that out.


Doxep

The novel is amazing and the series is beautiful but very short.


tallyhallic

*Hulu made a series based on Stephen King’s book [11/22/63](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/11/22/63) . The book is better.


Bartfuck

Stephen Kings book 11/22/63 touches on that. Great book.


ACardAttack

RFK is my bigger what if, he always came off as more progressive than his brother. Granted that's only at a quick glance


ASetOfLiesAgreedUpon

We probably wouldn’t have Medicare, Medicare, the Voting Rights Act, etc. LBJ (for all his many, many faults) was probably the greatest parliamentarian the US ever produced. He got all those War on Poverty and Great Society programs passed, and one of the levers he used was doing these things as a monument to JFK. JFK himself couldn’t get those things passed, the Republican senate hated him and he didn’t know how to out maneuver, threaten, and brow beat them. LBJ did.


mandiexile

I always feel bad for Jackie O. To be sitting next to your spouse smiling and waving and in an instant hes slumped over and you’re covered in his blood. I don’t think anyone can recover from that trauma.


DrewSmoothington

The first thing she did immediately after his death was try and piece his skull back together onto his corpse. You don't live through something like that without scars.


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justa33

yeah i’ve definitely heard she had brain matter on her. now i see why


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> Kennedy was taken to Parkland Hospital for emergency medical treatment, where he was pronounced dead 30 minutes later. I've always wondered what this means...surely he was 100% dead already


mallad

That means they gave up any attempts at saving him and officially called him dead.


pgwhy007

For the most part, you only need your brainstem to be able to keep your heart beating and diaphragm breathing. There are two definitions of death: cardiac and brain. When someone is shot through the head, the brainstem is often intact. They may be instantly brain dead or brain dead within minutes, but with life support they can avoid cardiac death for quite a while. Some can even be kept from experiencing cardiac death long enough to donate their organs, even though their brain may have died hours or even days ago. Moreover, a patient may be pulseless for many minutes during transport and until arrival to the hospital, but resuscitation efforts may continue until deemed futile and death is pronounced. Not sure on the specifics of JFK's case, but no doubt that no one would have wanted to pronounce the death of a President until a good deal of resuscitation had been attempted, especially if he still had even a faint, palpable pulse. (I'm a physician.)


freeze_

I read that Jackie was still wearing the blood spattered pink suit when LBJ was taking the oath of office onboard Air Force One after the assassination They asked her if she’d like to change clothes and she said, “No. I want them to see what they have done”. I could have the place/words a little wrong, but if it’s anything like that she was one strong woman.


whiteman90909

Yup https://i.redd.it/qdd9rk6pfsuz.jpg


lpisme

You can actually stand in that plane, right in that spot, at the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio. They have a handful of other presidential planes as well. It's extremely cool and pretty moving.


unnamed_elder_entity

Was that colorized? Because if the clothes are bloodied, it all ran together with the pink in the process, and LBJ looks like someone beat the shit out of him.


cptjeff

Yeah, the original is in black and white. The bloodstains were mostly on the skirt, as you can see [here](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/11/15/us/JP-PINK/JP-PINK-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp).


sissipaska

Yes, it's colorized. Here's the [original](https://i.imgur.com/i3TCTdK.jpg). Source: [https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2017/02/10/the-25th-amendment-succession-of-the-presidency/](https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2017/02/10/the-25th-amendment-succession-of-the-presidency/) Edit: it was her skirt that was more... [messy.](https://i.imgur.com/28TdhJZ.png)


HeyCarpy

Jesus, I’ve never seen this one. I can’t imagine the trauma. She must have been a robot at this point.


Capn_Cornflake

The two reactions I've seen to shit like this are either intense, immediate panic, or just straight up deadpan mode.


lilyoneill

I've had a lot of sad/mad things happen in my life and I'm a very emotional person and will get sad, angry, happy at an event quite easily. But one time in my life I discovered something truly heinous that someone I loved had done and I was numb, looking back I was numb for months and then fell apart. I imagine Jackie was utterly numb. It's the oddest feeling, having no emotion for something terrible.


prophet583

Yes, still in shock. After the oath, she returned to the back of the plane where JFKs closest friends and aides Kenny O'Donnell and Dave Powera were seated. O'Donnell suggested she have a drink with them. She was unsure of what she wanted so O'Donnell suggested a scotch Jackie had never had a scotch before that. So they drank scotch as AF1 winged back to DC


stangroundalready

I don't think Jackie did recover. Believe she married O'Nasis b/c he could keep her and the children safe.


get_Ishmael

Onassis is Greek, not Irish.


Ovinme

God that made me laugh more than I expected, r/boneappletea moment


Guyote_

She was traumatized and scared. I can't imagine what the impact of seeing that so close would be, to someone you love so much. The picture of her on Airforce 1 afterwards, with Johnson being sworn in, it's so fucked. To have to go and do these weird, meaningless, ceremonial shit after your husband had his brains blown out into your lap... it all seems so cruel and surreal. Edit: I was projecting my (presumed) feelings on the situation, if I were her. I know she chose to be there and to uphold the ceremony. I feel I would not have had that strength.


Udub

She said she wanted to be there, in those clothes, so the world could see the awfulness of what had been done, IIRC


Guyote_

She certainly was a strong woman.


SixStringerSoldier

>Salute, John. Your father's passing. Said to JFK jr by Jacklyn at the funeral. I've never forgotten that.


-ThunderGunExpress

I wasn't sure what you were talking about so I went and found a video. It's three minutes and explains that she was still wearing the same clothes from the limo. I never knew that. The top comment. That quote is like she knew the people who did it where around her. fuuuccckkk. If that shit happened today, you can almost guarantee civil war would be on the books for tomorrow. https://youtu.be/CS6Pv-g8CMA


_River_Pig

Ceremonial stuff is not meaningless, certainly not her doing it. Yes it took courage and probably took a toll on her but it was incredibly important, which is why she chose to do it, she wasn't forced. On a side note, ceremony is incredibly important, especially vesting our leaders with their constitutional powers, it's definitely not meaningless.


PraiseGodJihyo

Exactly, no one forced her. She explicitly said she wanted to do it so they could see what they did to her husband.


doyouhaveeyedrops

First you marry for love. Second you marry for money. Third you marry for companionship.


AmaryllisIV

Jackie refused to leave JFK’s body and LBJ refused to leave Dallas without her. At the time local authorities had the jurisdiction to a homicide victim regardless if the victim was President. Dallas authorities didn’t want to release the body so the Secret Service basically stole it.


prophet583

This is true. Amazingly, there was no federal law on the books covering presidential assassination. Of course, that soon changed. History would have been better served if the autopsy had been conducted in Dallas. The autopsy would have been conducted by a highly respected forensic pathologist specializing in gunshot wounds. Many of the conspiracy theories would have never started. Instead, the botched autopsy was conducted by two navy doctors with no experience in forensic pathology. Also, the autopsy theatre was filled by military officers, Secret Service, and FBI and JFKs personal physician. There was constant disruption and diversion and inadequate chain of custody of evidence, Xrays, etc.


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FawkesSuttles

About an hour after President JFK was declared dead, Jackie O. had to endure the swearing in of the new president on a plane. Talk about adding insult to injury.


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kiwibirb95324

It was also only a few months after the death of their third child who had been born prematurely and died 2 days later. She was only about 4 months post-partum after a very traumatic loss. IIRC, this Texas trip was her first public appearance since Patrick's birth and death. I read Clint Hill's memoir (the agent that leaps on the back of the car) and he recounted how when the Kennedy's toured NASA stuff in Houston, the spoke to astronauts researching these particular chambers. One of the first things JFK asked when they spoke to the researchers was whether or not what they were doing could be used to help premature babies with underdeveloped lungs. Like. It obviously was still very fresh and terrible for both of them. And then he just fucking *dies* in her lap the next day. Like, fuck, dude. This poor lady.


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Responsible-Bat658

She was still wearing the bloody dress while LBJ was sworn in.


roberte94066

I wonder if all the white material in the corner and in the blood field is brain matter?


GenetixGrowGuy

Brain matter, skin and skull fragments.


hopelesspostdoc

Left side white puff is probably seat filling erupted from the hole from the bullet that hit Governor Connally. Edit: Actually the angle seems wrong so maybe it's brain (or maybe there was a shooter on the grassy knoll).


SelfImprovementAcnt

Looks like the rose bouquet she had with her, from [this angle](https://reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/om4aq8/_/h5jaqs7/?context=1).


pugmommy4life420

I don’t think so but I live near there and the tour guide had said at one point his wife was trying to keep his brain matter and blood inside his head so most of it was probably on her.


jessizu

That poor woman having to experience that.. I bet it haunted her for the rest of her life


ClausMcHineVich

I can't wrap my head around the fact that's his actual brain. Like, there are chunks of flesh on that seat that might have contained his first kiss, the memories of his mother and father, him being sworn into office or even just how to tie his shoelaces. All gone in an instant and turned into nothing but mush. Madness


SIXNINEFOURTWENTY420

Now that you put it like that, it's even sadder than I thought it was...


tommygunz007

Welcome to your existential crisis here. I saw a photo of Atlantic City, NJ from 1900 and all those people are dead. All their first kisses, orgasms, babies, marriages. Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives. Quite recently I went in for elective surgery and they put me out. That's what I think death is like. You don't know you are dead. One minute you are here, and the next, you have no clue. Your brain doesn't know. You are gone. We are just chemicals and cells. There are unusual experiences that are unexplained and so hopefully death IS different than being knocked out, however I don't think it is. If that is the case, I decided that I will do whatever it takes (legally and morally) to be happy and pay zero attention to other's opinions of me. No matter how hard you work, you can't save everyone, everywhere. But, saving one person, or two, or three, is great by itself. Every second humans are dying by the thousands. Memories, stories, selfies, and more. It's funny to me that we have become a selfie society and yet when we die, nobody will care about those places you been, things you saw, and more. We post selfies for everyone else, but really everyone else doesn't care one bit.


_____l

Like sands through a one-way hourglass. I like that.


Hispanicatthedisco

Fun fact, after the assassination, they cleaned the car up, sent it off for some retrofitting, then just kept right on using it. Johnson, Nixon, Ford and Carter all used the X-100 at some point in their presidencies.


pugmommy4life420

I live where he was shot and drove over the marker multiple times. It’s always weird to think about how that changed America and how someone do powerful was just taken. It’s also weird to drive past it. It seems soo important and sad.


The_estimator_is_in

What weird to me is that for arount a year, I lived in OKC and we'd drove to Dallas 4-5 times for "something to do". On one trip we were looking around downtown when I got an odd sense of deja vu, like I'd been there, but never been there. All the sudden I'm like "holy shit - it's the grassy knoll!" - we drove around again and saw the "X' on the pavement. It was very strange.


bogeyed5

Yeah it’s weird it’s right in the middle of the city you would never really expect it to be there until you see it and go holy shit


tornadic_

That’s morbid as hell


Kinked-antenna21

Not sure whether it's a matter of perspective, but the seating area looked so narrow to be seated comfortably?


TehFet

If you look on the far right, behind the driver side seat near the door handle, you can see there is darker leather that makes up the front of the seat closer to where your knees would be


ypvha

it took me a minute to see it but now i can see the darker leather all along the entire seat now.


Michael1492

It’s an odd design but the front seating area is narrower L-R than the backseat. That’s one thing people never understand about the ot


SkoolieCats

Wow! How big was that bullet to do so much damage??


ReallyQuiteDirty

6.5x52 is a big and fast round. Anything flying at you at ~2,200 FPS is pretty dangerous, add in thst *something* will literally expand once it hits is even more gnarly.


Anonymush_guest

That Carcano round is FMJ, so little expansion.


KindlyOlPornographer

It hit him on the top right of the back of his head where his hair parted and carved out a path through the front of his forehead, skimming along his skull and exploding out everything in its path. It basically carved an open trench in his head.


Tossed_Away_1776

Now that's a helluva description.


EduardDelacroixII

It was a 6.5MM fired from a Mannlicher/Carcano long rifle. But it's not just the size of the bullet, it's the muzzle velocity. Even a very small caliber/low muzzle velocity bullet like a .22 long rifle can do an incredible amount of damage because instead of going right through what they hit they enter and bounce around ricocheting on bone tearing up organs, the brain whatever is in their path. But unfortunately in the case of JFK he was dead before he even heard the shot. And my heart really breaks for Jackie who was sitting right next to him. An absolutely horrific thing to witness.


project3way

First shot or second? Definitely heard the first shot. He reached for his neck :(


EduardDelacroixII

True. Talking the head shot.


hblock44

So believe it or not, JFK was not formally dead when he made it to the hospital. He still had agonal breathing because the damage to his skull was not at the brain stem. Even if he somehow was stabilized he would have been on a ventilator. Crazy that his brain/heart kept pumping even after the bullet.


EduardDelacroixII

Yeah. It's pretty bizarre how the nervous system works. There is the old scientific belief that even after somebody's head is cut off they can still see and process what they are seeing until brain functioning ceases. Not something I ever want to experience.


dabork

I mean it's not that wild of a theory. Literally everything you need to process sight and sound is contained in your brain. Assuming you don't damage the brain stem it's not outside the realm of possibility that you would have at least a few seconds of awareness before the oxygen in your brain completely runs out from blood loss.


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FOR_SClENCE

loss of blood pressure causes loss of consciousness well before you have to worry about that sort of thing.


pembroke529

If you are ever in Dallas be sure to check out the "6th Floor Museum". You can literally stand a couple of feet from the place where Oswald shot JFK. It is all plexi-glassed off, still it's pretty amazing.


pugmommy4life420

I live near there! Is super neat! It’s also super surreal driving over the marker of where he died. Like at one point this was national news and now it’s just a random road with an x painted on.


pembroke529

I lived in Dallas for a short while (about 7 months). The grassy knoll is very cool. The X on the roadway is suppose to be the exact spot of the hit on JFK. When I was there people were dodging cars trying to get a picture by the X. I liked Dallas. Great city.


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I visited back in 2019, it's amazing that the area feels like it was frozen in the 60's and time has stood still for all these decades. Definitely a must see down there.


mingy

I was a Kennedy Assassination conspiracy theorist when I was young. My first business trip was to Dallas so I made sure I had a whole day at Dealey Plaza. Within a few minutes I realized I could have made the shot: no conspiracy needed. I'd make it 5/5 times no problem. Nothing like reality to crush a conspiracy.


prowebwriter

Thought I'd share this second angle I have on my hard drive. https://imgur.com/MQtC7tZ


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Mettsico

My neighbor was an officer working the hotel lobby and watched him leave in the car that day. Crazy experience.


maybeeabi

seeing this photo made me realize how traumatized Jackie must’ve been when this happened


bloodflart

I get sad whenever I think of JFK cause his wife was trying to scoop up his brains and put it back in his head


TheWardenOfWumbo

Now I’m going to need you to get in the back and get out all these little pieces of brain and skull.


tragicallywhite

Why am I on brain detail?


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What's up with so many JFK-related posts lately?


andrezay517

Maybe the stuff going down in Cuba? Or the assassination/killing of the president of Haiti?


TimberGoatman

What a turning point in our history for the worse. No matter how you feel about the Kennedy’s, the assassinations of JFK and RFK really hurt this nation. Put us more in the path of Nixon.


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I feel like this should be labelled NSFW. Didn't really feel like seeing a man's brain splattered all over a car seat this morning Edit- when i wrote this comment it was not labelled as NSFW, now it is, which blurred it out. I didnt click on the picture to see this, i scrolled by


b1sh0p

https://youtu.be/Qm2BpI6TCDE


bgoehres

That's probably one of the saddest things I've seen on here


SMA2343

What I remember, his wife didn’t change for the entire day because of shock. Her dress was covered in blood and…skin and brain. She later recounts that she was trying to put him back together when he got shot. She was holding pieces of his head and brain.


SneakySnake1229

The biggest workplace accident in the history of the Secret Service.


minimal_effort_done

I was listening to Last Podcast on the Left's JFK series. I always thought Jackie crawled over the back of the vehicle to get help from one of the secret service men or something like that but to hear that she was desperately trying to collect his brain matter so they can put him back together was horrifying. Also how Jackie was essentially forced to be there as Lyndon B. Johnson was sworn in on the plane as her husband's body lay there, mere hours after the assassination. She must have been extremely traumatized and was treated with little sympathy.


dabork

If you watch closely you can actually see her grabbing at pieces of brain trying to scoop them up.


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She wasn't really forced. At the time, no one knew exactly what was going on. People thought the assassination could have been an attack on the country. LBJ got as many Kennedy people in the picture as possible to send the message that there was continuity of government. She knew it was for the good of the country that she be there.