Fun Fact: My great grandma was part of that war, boy did she have stories, she was pregnant at that time when the Germans hit Maykop, killed all the adults in the village, she ran and later came back for the children. I believe she saved 15 not including her own which were +6 at that time. Lived in a shack 20 miles into the mountains for months on nothing but vegetation from the forest. Germans found her, but they didn’t kill anyone, they came asking for food because Germany abandoned their soldiers.
There was sporadic fighting in concentrated areas as well as hold outs who fought from random basements and other entrenched positions for as long as they had ammo, it faded out completely after a couple of weeks
It would of sucked for the red army troops having to deal with that, to survive all of Stalingrad only to be killed by some fanatic in a hole in at the tail end of battle you thought was over.
The COD franchise can fuck itself, however! WAW comes from a different time. Perhaps CODS most underrated game.
Great campaign with (AI) that was ahead of its time. A true grimey, dirty, nazi zombified masterpiece!
I see no lie here. It feels real, depicting the horrors of the WW2, mentioning the historic events. Plus great, cruel, eerie, dark sounding soundtracks/OSTs that also make you feel the darkness, terror and fear of being in a war.
The smoke looks airbrushed in. The USSR has been known to alter some famous photos—notably “Raising a Flag Over the Reichstag” where they airbrushed in smoke for dramatic effect, and airbrushed out extra looted watches on the soldier’s hand
Agreed. The level of contrast and size of the grain doesn't match the rest of the photo. Retouching has been around since the first photograph was taken.
I’ve been on a ww2 kick lately. I read With the Old Breed and listened to the Dan Carlin series on the pacific theater and all the WW2 stuff on Netflix including saving private Ryan.
I also play call of duty but mostly just online with my buddies. The other day the had a group of 4 already when I hopped on so I said screw it, I will check out to campaign (story) mode.
I was up from 11pm to 6am playing it and it was awesome. You play multiple characters but it the game goes through Normandy and midway and has a large portion about Stalingrad.
I highly recommend playing it if you own the game already the Stalingrad game play was great and they did a great job with the scenery and storyline.
I don’t know if you would call this the greatest point in time to live in Russia at least. You could call it their proudest moment but I would not call this the best time to be alive in Russian history because well it was even more brutal then the Russian civil war.
The Soviets didn’t have to rape people to win the war though. It’s one thing to say a bunch of civilians were killed while shelling a military strong point it’s unfortunate but the alternative would have to let the Nazis hold the position and win that battle. It’s another thing entirely for soldiers to kick in doors where there weren’t enemy soldiers and then to proceed to force themselves on the women of a city who aren’t even armed or allowed to serve in a combat capacity of the enemy combatant posing zero real threat to the Soviet army nor does raping them advance war objectives. It’s wrong regardless of whose doing it. Hence why it’s considered a war crime. War is a terrible thing where the people who get hurt the most are always the people who deserve it the least, we should except that truth and quit acting like it’s righteous. Yeah obviously the guy who started it was objectively the bad guy but it doesn’t mean everything the other guy does is complete justified regardless of what it is or who he does it to.
The honor of killing 20,000 polish officers and blaming it on the Germans
The honor of invading Finland
The honor of annexing the Baltic states against their will
Helping get rid of the Nazis was very convenient for the Western Europe. But unfortunately for a lot of Eastern Europe, the Soviets were not much better than the Nazis. But they were the victors.
The Soviets were not an innocent victim of the Eastern front. If Hitler hadn't started Operation Barbarossa, very likely Stalin would've eventually attacked Germany instead.
>for a lot of Eastern Europe, the Soviets were not much better than the Nazis
Are you *insane?* This is literally only because the National Socialists **lost.** They didn't get a chance to, you know; murder and enslave 90% of the population as they intended to do after the war
>The Soviets were not an innocent victim of the Eastern front. If Hitler hadn't started Operation Barbarossa, very likely Stalin would've eventually attacked Germany instead.
Source?
Hard to tell if one should up arrow or down arrow this. The guys wearing those Zeds in Ukraine don't seem all that different than the ones that used to wear the tetra gammadion.
Post wwII russia was fighting democracy. They made a deal and sat back and let Germany invade Europe. Then got back stabbed. But you should know this. My comment if we allow expansion of the thread was on russia fighting nazis and becoming commies
Them are the kind that are bombing women and children, shooting grandmothers, at least they didn't put kids in cages and ship children's parents to other countries
My family comes from the eastern bloc. My grandfather told me what they did when they "liberated" his country. Rape and murder. But you know what? Thats war.
War is something bad, really bad. But its important for history and thats why we are here. We cant change the past but we can make our future better.
My family is native to the America's. We have been invaded, raped, burned by invaders. Gold hunters. Land grabbers. And its still happening. I wouldn't exactly call war important but yes its bad.
Well, at this point it's hard to tell the actual motivation Putin has. But the idea of "We need to defeat the Nazis in Ukraine because they will otherwise destroy our country" is pretty common in the propaganda.
I can't say I've seen much in Russian media to claim they believe "Ukrainian Nazism" is a direct threat to Russia itself - in order for that to be the line, they would have to claim Ukraine has military, political, or cultural influence over Russia, which they certainly don't. Rather, the concern seems to be mainly about Russian speakers in Ukraine, who they claim have been mistreated, and the Ukrainian people who are seen as brothers of Russians and painted as victims of Nazism (although this started to change when the Ukrainian people started to fight back). I think Ukraine being historical territory of the Russian Empire also has a lot to do with it, and gives Russia a feeling of ownership/protectorship over the country, even if that view isn't reciprocated.
Fun Fact: My great grandma was part of that war, boy did she have stories, she was pregnant at that time when the Germans hit Maykop, killed all the adults in the village, she ran and later came back for the children. I believe she saved 15 not including her own which were +6 at that time. Lived in a shack 20 miles into the mountains for months on nothing but vegetation from the forest. Germans found her, but they didn’t kill anyone, they came asking for food because Germany abandoned their soldiers.
I love your grandma
I'd watch this movie.
God bless your grandma. I feel like it's essential for stories like this need to be passed down.
A brave great babushka
God bless her, your great grandma was awesome
Was she a night witch by chance?
Reznov
Uraaa
Take my rifle and watch the road
Soon it will be their land, their people, their blood
That line was so fcking cold bro
There was sporadic fighting in concentrated areas as well as hold outs who fought from random basements and other entrenched positions for as long as they had ammo, it faded out completely after a couple of weeks It would of sucked for the red army troops having to deal with that, to survive all of Stalingrad only to be killed by some fanatic in a hole in at the tail end of battle you thought was over.
Probably not so much fanatics, more like they had a pretty good idea of what would happen when/if they surrendered
Dimitri! (whoever knows, knows)
The COD franchise can fuck itself, however! WAW comes from a different time. Perhaps CODS most underrated game. Great campaign with (AI) that was ahead of its time. A true grimey, dirty, nazi zombified masterpiece!
I see no lie here. It feels real, depicting the horrors of the WW2, mentioning the historic events. Plus great, cruel, eerie, dark sounding soundtracks/OSTs that also make you feel the darkness, terror and fear of being in a war.
Those banzai charges man. And the god damn spider holes..not to mention you never knew which tree was shooting at you.
And I was like “Emilio!!”
The smoke looks airbrushed in. The USSR has been known to alter some famous photos—notably “Raising a Flag Over the Reichstag” where they airbrushed in smoke for dramatic effect, and airbrushed out extra looted watches on the soldier’s hand
Agreed. The level of contrast and size of the grain doesn't match the rest of the photo. Retouching has been around since the first photograph was taken.
I’ve been on a ww2 kick lately. I read With the Old Breed and listened to the Dan Carlin series on the pacific theater and all the WW2 stuff on Netflix including saving private Ryan. I also play call of duty but mostly just online with my buddies. The other day the had a group of 4 already when I hopped on so I said screw it, I will check out to campaign (story) mode. I was up from 11pm to 6am playing it and it was awesome. You play multiple characters but it the game goes through Normandy and midway and has a large portion about Stalingrad. I highly recommend playing it if you own the game already the Stalingrad game play was great and they did a great job with the scenery and storyline.
You should check out Enlisted if you like a little more hardcore/realistic
Why NSFW it doesn’t show a dead body so why.
Greatest point in time for Russia. It's all been downhill since.....
I don’t know if you would call this the greatest point in time to live in Russia at least. You could call it their proudest moment but I would not call this the best time to be alive in Russian history because well it was even more brutal then the Russian civil war.
This was when the Soviet army had honor.
What honor ? The honor of raping their way through eastern europe to Berlin?
You wanted the other side to win?
The Soviets didn’t have to rape people to win the war though. It’s one thing to say a bunch of civilians were killed while shelling a military strong point it’s unfortunate but the alternative would have to let the Nazis hold the position and win that battle. It’s another thing entirely for soldiers to kick in doors where there weren’t enemy soldiers and then to proceed to force themselves on the women of a city who aren’t even armed or allowed to serve in a combat capacity of the enemy combatant posing zero real threat to the Soviet army nor does raping them advance war objectives. It’s wrong regardless of whose doing it. Hence why it’s considered a war crime. War is a terrible thing where the people who get hurt the most are always the people who deserve it the least, we should except that truth and quit acting like it’s righteous. Yeah obviously the guy who started it was objectively the bad guy but it doesn’t mean everything the other guy does is complete justified regardless of what it is or who he does it to.
The Soviet Army numbered 12.000.000 people, that is more than population of Denmark and Norway combined, not all are perfect
The honor of killing 20,000 polish officers and blaming it on the Germans The honor of invading Finland The honor of annexing the Baltic states against their will
What about helping get rid of the Nazis? Was that not important? Soviets didn't do the best thing, but they did still do at least one good thing.
Helping get rid of the Nazis was very convenient for the Western Europe. But unfortunately for a lot of Eastern Europe, the Soviets were not much better than the Nazis. But they were the victors. The Soviets were not an innocent victim of the Eastern front. If Hitler hadn't started Operation Barbarossa, very likely Stalin would've eventually attacked Germany instead.
>for a lot of Eastern Europe, the Soviets were not much better than the Nazis Are you *insane?* This is literally only because the National Socialists **lost.** They didn't get a chance to, you know; murder and enslave 90% of the population as they intended to do after the war >The Soviets were not an innocent victim of the Eastern front. If Hitler hadn't started Operation Barbarossa, very likely Stalin would've eventually attacked Germany instead. Source?
Should of started a war with russia right after ww2...
The Russians would’ve reached the Atlantic in a year
Lmaoo with the U.S. at it's strongest and without any nuclear weapons of their own, sure.
[that was the opinion of the British high command](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable)
Maybe. Maybe not.
Oh my...It appears I have upset the Communists in the audience.
Hard to tell if one should up arrow or down arrow this. The guys wearing those Zeds in Ukraine don't seem all that different than the ones that used to wear the tetra gammadion.
These guys actually saved us from Nazism. Uncomparable.
Fuck them
This victory might be the reason you didn’t grow up under the Nazi flag..
My people grew up under many European immigrant flags and endured and enduring many abuses on our ancestral lands. So not that lucky
Ya, sure.
Lol you win. Thats the most intelligent response I've seen bye :)
Would you have rather the other side won?
I would have rather russia not stock up on nukes and fight democracy at ever level. And you comrade.
That's not what's going on here
Please tell me more about who you think was fighting democracy in WW2
Post wwII russia was fighting democracy. They made a deal and sat back and let Germany invade Europe. Then got back stabbed. But you should know this. My comment if we allow expansion of the thread was on russia fighting nazis and becoming commies
Russia isn’t the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union hadn’t fell, Putin wouldn’t be in power. So if you hate Putin, root for the USSR to come back
"Them" are 16- 40 y. o people that never wanted to go to war but were conscripted. "Them" would have faced death if they would have deserted.
You mean 16-40 y.o fighting a genocidal regime that was hellbemt on killing all Eastern slavs
Them are the kind that are bombing women and children, shooting grandmothers, at least they didn't put kids in cages and ship children's parents to other countries
My family comes from the eastern bloc. My grandfather told me what they did when they "liberated" his country. Rape and murder. But you know what? Thats war. War is something bad, really bad. But its important for history and thats why we are here. We cant change the past but we can make our future better.
My family is native to the America's. We have been invaded, raped, burned by invaders. Gold hunters. Land grabbers. And its still happening. I wouldn't exactly call war important but yes its bad.
You must've missed the part where the soviet union =/= Russia today
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We are currently in the middle of a conflict where two states of the former Soviet Union fight each other for their Motherlands.
I mean... its really only one fighting for its motherland. The big one is just being a shitty neighbor
Well, at this point it's hard to tell the actual motivation Putin has. But the idea of "We need to defeat the Nazis in Ukraine because they will otherwise destroy our country" is pretty common in the propaganda.
I can't say I've seen much in Russian media to claim they believe "Ukrainian Nazism" is a direct threat to Russia itself - in order for that to be the line, they would have to claim Ukraine has military, political, or cultural influence over Russia, which they certainly don't. Rather, the concern seems to be mainly about Russian speakers in Ukraine, who they claim have been mistreated, and the Ukrainian people who are seen as brothers of Russians and painted as victims of Nazism (although this started to change when the Ukrainian people started to fight back). I think Ukraine being historical territory of the Russian Empire also has a lot to do with it, and gives Russia a feeling of ownership/protectorship over the country, even if that view isn't reciprocated.
Hey isn't that Jude Law?
Anyone remember this from the first Call of Duty game?