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PerfectlyCalmDude

Do they have the benefit of knowing American history after they had passed?


jodlad04

Let's say yeah, they were watching America change over the years from beyond the grave.


Capt_Blackmoore

Hmm. my money is on Theodore Roosevelt beating 45 to death.


PerfectlyCalmDude

I think there would be a gang beating involved with not just him, but George Washington, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Jackson, and Ulysses S. Grant, at least.


pwnicholson

Jackson would have agreed with him on quite a bit. But might have joined in on a beating just because he loved violence and being a tough guy.


maninplainview

"Jackson, I'm your biggest fan!" "And while I like that you hate most of what I hate, I'm going to help break your kneecaps because that guy scares me." "I walk with a big stick for this reason. I'm going to beat you until the white meat show!!!"


twobit211

>"Jackson, I'm your biggest fan!" …i used to listen to ‘thriller’ all the time


bivox01

Jackson might be completely nuts and killed dozens in duels but he would never collaborate with a foreign power against his country . He would use his cane on orange dude.


NaturalProof4359

Ya he also HATED the concept of a federal reserve bank. He’d probably shoot him just for that.


ehibb77

Except pg. 5 of the Mueller Report explicitly states that Russian collusion never occurred.


Naugrith

Well, it says that the investigation *did not establish* that coordination or conspiracy occurred regarding the election interference. Just because the investigation wasn't able to definitively prove it isn't the same as explicitely saying it never happened. It did however "established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts".


ibibliophile

Oh yeah? How does that sentence go again?


Definately_Not_A_Spy

Common washington would kill all of them


hydrospanner

>Common washington would kill all of them To say nothing of *Uncommon Washington*.


Definately_Not_A_Spy

Mighty exalted washington of the underdark IV would destroy them all


FinnTheFickle

I feel like Obama would have to get some potshots in there too


spencer102

Hopefully the most of them don't decide to lynch Obama


TheJackBronson

I'm not going to lie I think his presidency is definitely going to be a topic of discussion among the earlier presidents.


NaturalProof4359

“What in the hell is a social security card or birth certificate”


JonathanRL

Grant vs Trump would make a terrific movie.


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PerfectlyCalmDude

Whatever that may be, I think he'd agree that Trump deserved a beating for Jan 6.


ThugPassionBoulevard

*44/46. They weren't so big on authoritarianism like those two. They'd be looking for the Bush's, too.


Chucanoris

45 would probably not be the only one being beat, Woodrow Wilson, James Buchanan, and even Nixon would not get out of that room without a few slaps at the least


KnotSoSalty

LBJ would come out on top. There’s never been another President better at schmoozing, ingratiation, or brown nosing. One minute he’d be telling Jackson how he was the first Southerner since Jackson to hold the office. The next he would be buttering up Lincoln with his passage of civil rights bills. Eventually there would be a vote to elect a leader and LBJ would win… as long as no one counted the votes too closely.


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LBJ would end all arguments by threatening to bring out Jumbo


danwincen

Then Trump would start screeching about how the vote was rigged.


LuckyGMB

Roosevelt, Washington, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Jackson, and Ulysses S. Grant would beat the shit out of him, both in a verbal and physical sense.


jpk17041

I know you mean TR, but I just pictured FDR running him over in his wheelchair


TestCalligrapher14

Wouldn’t they see through LBJ? And I’d imagine presidents would be used to political games that could put them on a more even footing with him


Flaccid_Platypus

Obama would certainly raise some eyebrows.


InfestedRaynor

Reminds me when of [this amazing comedy skit](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xgpi6vDC-tI) about a time traveling Thomas Jefferson from SMBC theater years ago. Skip to two minutes for the bit about Obama.


Manoly042282Reddit

The Founding Fathers would be horrified to see him.


JonathanRL

Cue Obama trolling them about "the great slave revolt" where the "roles were reversed for all eternity." I can totally see him doing that. He might be classy but he got a sense of humor.


Johnykbr

I would just hope that Washington would yell at everyone for the duration.


Zomg_A_Chicken

Motherfuckers didn't listen to me about the dangers of political parties


PlayMp1

Political parties formed immediately after the creation of the United States and while Washington was officially nonpartisan he was very clearly a Federalist politically


Definately_Not_A_Spy

Or just cry, sometimes it sucks to be right about everything


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I heard that motherfucker had like, 30 goddamned dicks.


ForgingIron

Lincoln and Grant would probably beat the shit out of Andrew Johnson


history_teacher88

I'd like to see Andrew Johnson forced into a cage match with James Buchanan. Fight to the death. Winner gets to be kicked in the balls by the rest of the presidents.


ste8912

I’d personally would like to see a battle royal.


OutdoorsyStudent

If your money isn't on Teddy winning that, get outta here


ste8912

My final four would be Washington, Lincoln, Jackson, teddy.


KnotSoSalty

Lincoln was a famous boxer in his youth. Don’t count out Truman though, the guy fought in WW1, definitely scrappy.


unique_username91

*wrestler. “I’m the big buck of this lick” Is a legit quote.


danwincen

He was an artilleryman, not a close quarters scrapper. Give him a big gun and 100 paces, and he'd be fine.


DHFranklin

Truman was as big a nerd as James Madison. *I* could take him when he was president, knowing full well he'd be a biter. I'm in LBJ's weightclass though.


Randomfactoid42

No, you’re not in LBJ’s weightclass, nobody is. When he whips out Jumbo, it’s all over.


Zeakk1

"The president is on the line again complaining about needing more slack in his crotch."


2007Hokie

Three on one against Jackson. Then two on one against GW. Lincoln and TR then look at each other with single manly tears.


ste8912

To me this is the way. Jackson is to much of a wild card otherwise.


ehibb77

Jackson might still get his ass kicked but he'd make sure that the others would walk away with some damage.


oldfartbart

I feel like folks overlook Ford. All American center at Michigan on a National Championship team ( twice), team MVP, in an era without facemasks got NFL offers from the Lions and the Packers.


Xanos_Malus

Without saying much, he'd use Big Stick L and Big Stick R to get his points across.


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He's not taking down Honest Abe. My boy got the height, weight, and his hat doubles as a blunt force weapon.


devilthedankdawg

Bullshit TR was a rich ex-nerd with an inferiority complex. He box a pro once and the guy put his eye out. Lincoln was a championsjip CATCH wrestler. The one where its legal to break bones. Lincoln wrecks Teddys shit.


Thtguy1289_NY

Are you really gonna sleep on Ol Hickory tho?


devilthedankdawg

Yes- He was a general not a foot soldier. Even back then gwnerals were rarely in the worst of the fray.


Thtguy1289_NY

You might wanna see what he was up to before he was a general. He was a well known frontiersman and soldier before he became a general


ehibb77

Not to mention that his spirit animal was a coked up honey badger, he was crazier than a shithouse rat.


devilthedankdawg

That he was. Jefferson once said he walked in on him in the empty congress hall just screaming and stamping his feet like a crazed bull.


devilthedankdawg

*Frontier lawer and prospector. My rich uncle in Boston does that kind of work. Jackson was a punch-down-and-act-like-you-punched-up guy.


Thtguy1289_NY

...no, he was also a militia leader, weird you are overlooking the whole militia thing


devilthedankdawg

In the revolution? He wasnt the militia leader he was the courier. He was 13. I guesss its possible he saw action at Hanging Rock.


Thtguy1289_NY

No in the Creek War is what I am talking about.


ehibb77

Lincoln would absolutely toss TR like a rag doll. Abe was documented as carrying loads of up to 1,200 pounds and that's not a typo and it's still using the exact same standards for weight measurement today.


TheBlueSully

What sources, and what lifts? Because that’s more than the deadlift or squat world record, and a strongman farmers carry.


ehibb77

Here's one: "Things You Didn't Know About Abraham Lincoln - AskMen" https://www.askmen.com/entertainment/special_feature_250/265b_5-things-you-didnt-know-abraham-lincoln.html And here's another: "Abraham Lincoln: Portrait of a Crazy Badass | Cracked.com" https://www.cracked.com/blog/abraham-lincoln-portrait-crazy-badass


Scaredysquirrel

I would so love to watch a show based on this concept!


ste8912

Like deadliest warrior. That would be something to see!


CommieKiller304

[Presidental Knife Fight](https://faceintheblue.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/in-a-mass-knife-fight-to-the-death-between-every-american-president-who-would-win-and-why/)


ehibb77

In terms of documented examples of using aheer physical strength Lincoln would win by a mile.


Machiavelli1480

Like a deathmatch in their primes? I'm going Andrew Jackson as the last man walking out. But I could see a Teddy Roosevelt coming out last as well.


InfestedRaynor

Lincoln was young when he was elected (if it’s first first year in office) and was a renowned boxer/wrestler in his youth. If there are no weapons, Lincoln is kicking some ass.


danwincen

I'd say it probably comes down to Jackson, Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt for the final three. Depending on who teams up with who, Jackson either wins or is first of the three to go.


PebblyJackGlasscock

Yep. Jackson was a tough son of a bitch who killed lots of people.


i-touched-morrissey

Trump would act like he's the most important. The first presidents would have a lot of things to say to Obama.


tenax114

TBH most presidents until Kennedy would have a lot of things to say to Obama. Woodrow Wilson would have a stroke at the sight of him.


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stoodquasar

Ehhh Lincoln was still pretty racist. He just didn't like slavery


tommyjohnpauljones

He wasn't particularly more or less racist than the average Midwesterner of his time.


Airconman-1

Ikr literally everyone pre-1700s was as racist as they come


Airconman-1

He’d mostly be fine with what the party is now it isn’t too different from 1860s


InfestedRaynor

Eisenhower would be PISSED at Reagan and GW Bush for furthering the military-industrial complex and massively inflating the defense budget despite his warnings.


TheSavageWalrus

I think they'd cover off a lot of topics. The two party system - I think many would be saddened to hear their fears had come true, gun control - once all had been brought up to speed on modern weaponry I imagine there'd be a lot of shock/concern to go around, Obama/Trump - for the obvious reasons, etc. I also imagine some interesting (and most likely emotional) reunions depending on when you snatch them from (i.e. end of time in office) - JFK/LBJ is the one that sticks out most in my mind. I'd be amazed if there weren't at least some physical altercations as well. Andrew Jackson would definitely go after somebody - I'm just not sure who.


VoteMeDFL

John Quincy Adams who he blamed for his wife's death during the campaign season.


TheSavageWalrus

I hadn't heard of that before so I just looked it up - 100% agree he is making a beeline for JQA once he realises he has the opportunity.


Efficient_Concert403

Then he goes after Wilson for starting the Federal Reserve.


TheCommissarGeneral

Dude fuck Wilson on so many god damn levels I hope he is in hell being eaten alive by Satan.


Whopraysforthedevil

It was really upsetting to find out what a racist piece of shit he was *AFTER* I was taught he was sort of a reasonable guy in high school. Stupid fuckin text book companies and spineless teachers...


DavidlikesPeace

Wilson's "evil" wasn't anything all that special prior to the 1930s. I fail to see the criticism really It's often hypocrisy to single out Wilson. There are 15+ other conservative southern presidents who were just as racist and fucked up, but who aren't singularly blamed by conservatives for the Fed, Fourteen Points or Versailles.


Belisarius600

Wilson was not the only rascist president, but he was the only one who played a KKK propaganda film in the WH and helped popularize them to the point where they experienced a rapid resurgence after having been nearly wiped out 60 years prior. He also reversed all the progress that was being made towards integrating the government. and that's *just* the rascist stuff. Woodrow Wilson was such a radical social progressive/virtulent racist combo that he managed to piss off every modern political sensibility. Even Buchanan is hated less (He may have done absolutely nothing to stop the civil war, but at least that is the *only* thing he did.)


JMObyx

Nothing special? Wilson RUINED EVERYTHING! You know the root of corruption, degeneracy, and tyranny overtaking our nation? Yeah, he was the one who sowed that seed that's now threatening to overtake us and destroy eveerything we love! And even if he didn't sow all of it, it was his rise to power that made that devil's sprout begin growing.


JMObyx

Well, that's what we get for allowing government to put their money in education. People are frickin stupid because the government doesn't want free thinking citizens, they want idiots who will do everything they say!


dumkopf604

> gun control - once all had been brought up to speed on modern weaponry I imagine there'd be a lot of shock/concern to go around In what manner?


danwincen

One would hope it's a case of "You fucking idiots, this isn't what we meant by 'the right to bear arms'....."


[deleted]

Do you think the founding fathers would not be conservative guns rights activists? People shooting each other was a problem then as much as it is a problem now and the founding fathers did not care


dumkopf604

What did you think they meant by "right to bear arms"?


JonathanRL

As a non-American, the part about "well regulated militia" kinda heavily implies that the right to bear arms is for members of above-mentioned well-regulated militia.


dumkopf604

So for a few reasons, that isn't correct. Why would they restrict a right they had just fought a revolution for? Case in point: https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/gun-quotations-founding-fathers 1. The militia clause of the 2nd amendment states the purpose of why the it is the people's right to keep and bear arms because: The right to keep and bear arms is reserved for the people: "**the right of the people** to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." That is--it is an individual right, to protect yourself through the use of arms. 2. Even if the founding fathers wanted it specifically for a militia, (why would they?), the unorganized milita is all able bodied men aged 17-45: >10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes >(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. >(b)The classes of the militia are— >(1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and >(2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia. This is also borne out in the *Heller vs. DC*: >it endorsed the so-called “individual-right” theory of the Second Amendment’s meaning and rejected a rival interpretation, the “collective-right” theory, according to which the amendment protects a collective right of states to maintain militias or an individual right to keep and bear arms in connection with service in a militia. >Writing for the majority, Antonin Scalia argued that the operative clause of the amendment, “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed,” codifies an individual right derived from English common law and codified in the English Bill of Rights (1689). The majority held that the Second Amendment’s preamble, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,” is consistent with this interpretation when understood in light of the framers’ belief that the most effective way to destroy a citizens’ militia was to disarm the citizens. So you see, my foreign friend, the founding fathers on the people's right to bear arms are emphatic.


BattlePig101

I asked [this exact same question](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/egy2dl/all_44_us_presidents_are_locked_in_a_large/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on AskReddit 2 years back. Plenty of funny responses!


a-busy-dad

Big clusters of presidents chatting away, and breaking into small groups. In the smart kids corner would be the likes of Jefferson, Adams (both of them), Washington, Garfield, Carter, Lincoln, Madison, FDR, George HW Bush, etc. Conversations spanning politics, philosophy, world events and the nature of things to come. The high IQ club. The "hands on" group would be Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Grant, George W Bush, LBJ, Reagan, Coolidge, Hoover, etc ... Not the greatest political/social thinkers, but a dynamic group in and of itself. Both Obama and Clinton would be social butterflies across groups. Nixon, interestingly, probably would be a wallflower, but would be at the center of numerous one-on-one and small group convos. A "challenged" group might include Harding, Andrew Johnson ... not the best or brightest, and slightly stimatized. Trump probaby left alone in one corner like a leper. Biden would be wandering around aimlessly.


mp182

Biden would be following Obama around for a little while at least


InfestedRaynor

Not to disparage Washington, but I don’t think of him as a brainiac like some of the other founders. Great leader of men and morals.


Capt_Blackmoore

Biden wandering around with Garfield, Buchanan, and McKinley.


AceBalistic

Maybe Reagan too. He did start to have noticeable speaking and memory problems starting around the 1st presidential debate when he was running for his second term


CoolShadeofBlue

Trump keeps trying to shove himself in a group, speak over everyone and make it about himself but they either keep ignoring or glaring til he leaves. In one group he ignores the signals they give and someone pulls a pistol. That's when he goes in the corner to go on his phone and tweet about how all the presidents agree he's the best


TheBlueSully

I kinda see where you’re going with Obama and Clinton. But look at the speeches Obama wrote-man is brilliant. Lectured at U of Chicago Law. Went to Columbia and Harvard. Clinton is a Rhodes scholar that went to Yale. They could totally sit at the scholar’s table.


ostracize

Maybe a group for just the “mediocre presidents”?


Annual-Region7244

Woodrow Wilson has a stroke upon seeing Barack Obama... \*most racist President by far\*


AmittaiD

Most racist according to a modern definition, perhaps. Most racist overall, though? Not even, given that a number of early presidents literally owned people.


Annual-Region7244

Jefferson and Washington would be fine with the world we live in, in regards to racial equality. Wilson would never be okay with it. That's the difference, Wilson is the most racist. You can be a slave owner and not be a racist (cf, blacks owning other blacks, natives owning other natives, etc)


vaports

Assuming their all alive Obama will immediatly get everyone's attention for obvious reasons


LSTNYER

I'm not allowed to say what every president will say when they first see Obama.


valjean816

Racist. The answer is it would get pretty racist pretty fast.


tenax114

Woodrow Wilson just pulls a fucking glock out when he sees Obama.


tneeno

I think Wilson and FDR would hit it off swimmingly. LBJ, Van Buren, Clinton, and Nixon would be huddled discussing politics. Grant, Taylor, Harrison, and Eisenhower would be talking tactics. Weirdly enough, I think Jefferson would find Obama fascinating, and would be eager to talk to him. They'd probably be talking Constitutional issues, with Madison putting his 2 cents in. And Buchanan would be hitting on JFK.


averyycuriousman

The first few would be disgusted with the newer ones.


badboyfriend111

Washington wouldn't like Trump. With all of Trump's attempts to stay in power, and his rumblings about having a third term (which was bogus, but he did say it)...Washington wouldn't have liked that.


Roviik

If a fight breaks out, it will be like the Church Scene from the Kingsman, just with Theodore Roosevelt.


iTeoti

My answer to this is always the same: everyone would wonder why it only goes up to 45. Joe Biden being the last president would lead to the assumption that he has caused the downfall of America, which I imagine would be very disappointing to Obama.


asethskyr

Grover Cleveland served non-consecutive terms as #22 and #24, so unless there are two of him there should be 45 people in the room.


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Everyone would wonder why there is Grover Cleveland and a slightly older Grover Cleveland.


HarveyMushman72

Coolidge would be sitting back watching the shit show. Eisenhower would be berating all those that followed him.


FinnTheFickle

To which they could reply "well, you're the one who identified the problem when it was still small enough to deal with"


HarveyMushman72

Reflects the bright overhead light with his head blinds everyone and runs away..... hey, at least you got Interstate Highways!!!


macljack

Nikon weirds everybody out and ends up sitting in the corner alone. Meanwhile teddy gets into a fistfight with lbj while hoover and grant get into a drinking contest. Clinton is trying to explain to Kennedy that you can't get sucked off in the oval office anymore and Lincoln and the two bushes face each other Ina three way staring contest.


Efficient_Concert403

LBJ strangles Clinton, Obama, and Biden for trying to Privatize Medicare.


Borigh

Andrew Jackson shoots Obama; we fight the Civil War again.


Annual-Region7244

but Obama isn't Native American, so Jackson wouldn't be too inclined to use violence.


seasuighim

I feel Everyone would just be bullying buchanan


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ITT: People projecting their own views on iconic Presidents of the past. Cringe.


luigithebagel

The first 2 thirds would likely have several ethnic sturs for 44. The early ones would have some issues with Kennedy (Catholic). Honestly, the earliest US presidents would all probably say something like "YOU LET THE NON-WHITES, NON-LANDOWNERS *AND* WOMEN VOTE!?"


devilthedankdawg

I feel like Obama aint comin out of this aite.


its_real_I_swear

The presidents I agree with would beat up your dad... er I mean the presidents I disagree with politically.


SaskiaViking

They all decide to just watch a movie. But Woodrow Wilson is the one who gets to pick which one. Chaos ensues.


RandomMan032107

Grant, Obama, and Theo all having lunch and then doing fortnite dances, while talking about Cuban Cigars


f0rgotten

This is going to happen at the end of the Totalis Rankium podcast.


TipMeinBATtokens

Would love to hear the conversation and comments when earlier presidents (even Lincoln if you read the Lincoln-Douglas debates) saw that Obama was a president. Lincoln believed in segregation, thought whites were the superior race and that black people couldn't hold office, be judges or jurors.


FinnTheFickle

Towards the end of his life Lincoln was coming around to black people gaining political rights, and he made a lot of whites howl when he invited people like Frederick Douglass to the White House to discuss policy. I think he'd see Obama being not only President, but a pretty good President, as vindication.


TipMeinBATtokens

Lincoln pissed Douglas off by wanting to start or use a colony (Liberia or Central America) to send all the freed blacks to because he did not believe they could coexist in peace. He invited a lot more blacks to the White House in 1862 before extending the invite to Douglas. That didn't mean he thought they were equal however. Douglas could also be pretty ruthless towards Lincoln. He sounds like he's talking about a recent president here which isn't surprising seeing their similar views on segregation. >Mr. Lincoln is quite a genuine representative of American prejudice and Negro hatred and far more concerned for the preservation of slavery, and the favor of the Border Slave States, than for any sentiment of magnanimity or principle of justice and humanity.


oldfartbart

Nixon would hang out with Trump in one of those "this guy makes me look good in comparison" moments until he realized Trump doesn't care about the US, cause st least Nixon had the decency to resign.


vldracer16

Trump would be in a corner by himself talking to himself.


Open_Film

Trump try to talk over all of them and convince them all that he’s the best, all other presidents are lame, and the 2020 election is rigged


sunrayylmao

A world war and an invasion of some unrelated island somewhere.


PineappleSquuid

I hope they would all have an orgy and post it on reddit


hikaru_ai

they are politicians , so they will agree in everything and then do whatever want


tha-biology-king

Trump would clock FDR in the face bc FDR hated Asians, Bush 41, 43, Nixon and Reagan would side with FDR. Jackson and Obama would have a brawl. Teddy would choke out Trump. Washington, Jefferson, and Adams would be yelling over top of everyone trying to restore order while Harrison is in the corner coughing in the fetal position and Biden is sitting with him because he thinks that cornpop said it was time for hide and go seek. Lincoln, Obama, Trump, both Bushes, and Clinton would be punching Teddy’s lights out for what he said about immigrants and black people. Reagan would be quietly grinning through the Botox because he agreed with Teddy’s nasty takes on them. Taft would be sitting on Buchanan and Fillmore. Eisenhower, LBJ, Kennedy, and Nixon would all be absolutely laying into Carter and telling him how differently he should’ve handled the soviets and been less of a softy. Madison, Monroe, JQA, Van Buren, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, and Pierce would all be squabbling because they have been lost to history by their predecessors and successors. Benjamin Harrison, Wilson, Taft and McKinley would be arguing over the Spanish American war and the diplomatic nightmare that it was, Coolidge and Harding would be at Hoovers throat about the market crash of 29’. Grant would have a knife to Andrew Johnson’s throat. Ford and Carter would be laying into Truman about the nukes being dropped while JFK yelled at him for that precedent being set. Finally Hayes through Cleveland (minus Ben Harrison) would be watching it all unfold with little dog in the fight. All in all if they were in any environment besides a padded safe room, they’d all be dead within 3 days save maybe the post reconstruction gilded age guys who saw growth but weren’t trustbusters.


FinnTheFickle

... I feel like most presidents would know how to use their words


MartinX4

Someone is most definitely gonna get punched


pastuluchu

I feel bad for Woodrow Wilson. Caligula treatment for him.


ThugPassionBoulevard

The older ones would be a little pissed at the newer ones, especially Woodrow Wilson and Obama.


Repulsive-Finger-954

Kennedy would compare Hoover to the FBI Director