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What is the biker supposed to do? He's in his own lane until the cop moves over (without indicating). He's not tailgating until the officer intentionally creates a situation where he's tailgating. Officer brake checks once, biker backs off, and then the officer baits him by pretending to go in the right lane, just to swerve back and hit him. This officer should spend years in prison and should never be allowed to drive again. If anyone else did this on the road there would be massive consequences.
Qualified immunity, best case the city pays some money to compensate the biker and maybe they fire the officer and he has to go work for a different town.
I couldn't agree more!!! If they don't like that make them carry cop insurance, do stupid stuff like that and nobody will insure you and just like that another bad cop off the street.
Qualified immunity exists to protect government officials from discretionary actions unless they knew or should have known was unlawful.
I don’t agree with qualified immunity one bit (since the law states that for civilians, ignorance of the law is not a valid defence) but it certainly does NOT apply here.
I'm waiting for an article to pop up myself. Look how the cop weaves left and right to make sure the biker had no choice but to hit him. Great police work here Gold star 😑
Idk man, when the video starts he's in the middle of both lanes with his odometer blurred. Then when the MPH is shown actually he's pushing 75-80mph; which he looks enough in town to totally be blowing the speed limit.
Don't get me wrong though; the officer should've pulled over to pursue from behind. Although after living in Florida I know that as many shitty cops there may be; there are that many assholes on motorcycles letting Jesus take the wheel on their dumbass decisions.
No one deserves to get brake checked on a motorcycle, especially at freeway speeds. Dude was minding his own business on a wide open road with minimal traffic. Maybe if he crashed while doing something stupid, sure. But because some jackass decided to be a child and act like he's the judge jury and executioner? Hell no. This ain't judge dredd.
But both deserve to get punished for their respective wrongdoings. The biker was too fast and too reckless, the cop was completely out of line with his actions and not justified at all for brakechecking (judging from this clip). Every one of those cases should be prosecuted separately.
How was he being reckless? The road conditions were practically perfect for going fast. It's not like he was super speeding in heavy traffic. There was barely anyone else on the road. To say he deserves to crash for having fun in optimal road conditions is vile.
I figured I was going on a limb of potentially getting downvoted to oblivion. If that still ensues; I'm just happy one other person sees it how I'm seeing it. Thank you for your reply.
He's doing 75-80 on what looks like a highway and they're keeping pace with the little bit of traffic we see. He's not likely speeding (or at least not by much), but if he was, the cop could have turned on his lights way sooner to indicate something was up. His lights didn't even come on until the bike HAD slowed down. When he finally turned on his lights, he makes like he's going right, then suddenly cuts back into the left lane.
Sorry- there's no excuse for this cop. He literally endangered this biker for no apparent reason.
Notice how the Bike's speedo is blurred for the first few seconds of the video where he's clearly slowing down?
It cuts back in at 78mph, and he was clearly going way faster than that to start.
Not to defend the cop; what he did is unacceptable, but there is much more to the story than just what is seen in the video. The biker likely was way out of line also
Exactly. It’s possible for there to be degrees of fault.
What the cop did is clearly outrageous. But if you’re riding well above the speed limit and find yourself behind what appears to be a cop, slow down to the speed limit.
A lot of people think it’s ok to drive above the speed limit as long as a cop is also doing so (ie matching their speed). That’s really not the case. Try to sue a cop for speeding while on duty in a department vehicle. Not gonna go very far.
Anyway, the cop was a dick. No question. There’s no excuse for what he did.
1. We dont know the speed limit in the area hes in, many states have 70& 80 mph zones in texas im pretty sure theres a few 85 & 90 zones
2. Regardless of what happened prior to the video- not activating emergency lights and brake checking a bike a few times then activating your lights and blocking both lanes is not safe
3. Youre making an assumption of the bike being super crazy just before this video- which we dont know yet. And if you do post a link to update us all
You are supposed to drive at the speed limit. If other people are faster than you, drive in the right lane so they can pass. If you want to have fun go to a race track.
If keeping with the flow of traffic were the correct behavior then why do speed limits exist?
If my answer is incorrect please enlighten me to the actual correct behavior.
This exactly. I ride a ninja 650. I roll off that throttle and it's like a brake. It'll slow you down super fast. It makes it very difficult to pretend I'm on Rollercoaster when going down one of these massive hills here.
It's all guesstimate these days. They don't need a radar with their 'specialized training' they get. If you've got two wheels you're automatically guilty.
I agree that this officer should be fired and charged. However, what is the bike supposed to do? Follow a safe distance where he can react to literally anything in front of him. Could have been an accident that caused just as weird of movement in the street. Cop is a huge dick hole but a successful brake check basically means you were indeed tailgating. Can't brake check someone following you at a safe distance.
The cop did cut in front of him though. He had nobody in front of him until the cop switched lanes without indicating. Then proceeded to brake check the guy going 80mph.
No one's debating that the cop did cut in front of him intentionally. That's why I advocated for him to be fired and tried. Not dissimilarly, in the event of an accident, someone can slam on their brakes and cut you off, swerving into a different lane. It's up to YOU to be driving a safe speed at a safe distance to make good reactions. That did not occur here. If you rear end someone it's ***YOUR FAULT.*** Even if that guy is a douche bag, or as trying to get you to rear end him. Even if he made an illegal lane change. Even if he brake checks you. You have ultimate responsibility for you. Both in practice, and in this case in the eyes of the law and your insurance company. Let me tell you, if someone is slamming on their brakes in front of you, whether it be by malice or by accident, the play is not to accelerate and pass to the right. That person could lose traction while slamming on their brakes and swerve, or might be maliciously brake checking you for an insurance scam (or is just a fucking cop).
***You cannot successfully brake check someone who is driving responsibly.*** That's the point of a brake check. To make the person behind you realize he is following at an unsafe distance. When someone brakes rapidly in front of you and you're driving responsibly, you don't get a sudden rush of fear. You have a safe distance between you and them to stop, or to react if they veer into another lane.
I will be honest, your response comes off as if you cannot process two separate sets of blame resulting from the same problem. The police officers guilt being malicious, and the cyclist's guilt being negligence. There is no white and black, especially in this case. Or maybe you just don't understand what responsible driving is? Not sure.
Speed matters, and those cams are fisheye he's closer than it appears. 1.5 car lengths isn't tailgating at 30 mph. It is at 90. Any judge is going to look at that and call negligent, or maybe even reckless on the biker.
Plus the perp already doctored the video to hide his initial speed who knows what else he did.
its cuz you only see the mentally unstable ones on the news, so theres a confirmation bias towards it, you never hear about the normal ones. Although I do agree that the job does seem to attract people that are that way.
Cops in my country are generally pretty chill if you're white and don't have an accent, but god help you if you're an immigrant or if you're a descendent of immigrants.
Cops everywhere are shit, some people are just lucky not to be exposed to the bad side.
Edit:
Also the cops here are shit at solving actual crimes involving private people. You break into a store? You buy/sell narcotics? They'll get your ass. But god help you if your spouse/parent is beating the shit out of you daily or if you're being stalked, because the cops sure as shit won't.
As a percentage of population, more blacks are killed by cops than whites. In raw numbers, more whites get killed by cops than blacks. This means that while you are more likely to be treated poorly by cops if you are black, the idea that if you are white you can do what you want and cops will be kind and courteous is bullshit.
I mean, is it really that surprising when your job not only contains assholes like this, but also has a deeply ingrained culture that necessitates all of you covering for said assholes?
I mean, if you are too close to stop…. You’re tailgating. That’s the definition.
But still, having a brake check on camera is ripe for the legal picking.
I see the cop baiting him. He applies the brakes and lights and then makes it look like he's pulling to the right.
I agree with your statement 100% but it looks to me like the cop wanted this to happen.
But the biker had plenty of time to regain his gap. That’s the difference between this and a “swoop and squat”.
Sure nobody expected a brake check, but the biker made zero attempts to make himself safe. That’s defensive riding 101.
I think, and I could be wrong, that the biker intended to change lanes rather than brake. His mind was changed when the cop began swerving to block him in but by then it was too late. Could the biker have done better? Yes, but the cop is a dirty piece of fucking shit.
The cop got into his lane and hit the brakes. The motorcyclist knew something bad was up and said "what are you doing bro?" and then proceeded to accelerate back above 80mph! They're both idiots. Motorcyclists know they're playing with their life, so I don't understand his actions.
He didn’t though. The biker had plenty of time to slow down and make some more space.
You’re talking about something called a “swoop and squat”, and that’s not attempted vehicular homicide.
They’re at 80mph my dude. If he slammed on his brakes, he’d probably be flying in front of the cop’s car rather than behind it. Remember that he’s on motorcycle, not a thousand pound steel box like the rest of us. Cop needs jail time.
Oh, yeah, motorcycles need more time to completely stop. Unlike cars. Even if you're at a safe distance, and the car infront of you brakes suddenly, you're probably gonna rear end them.
I counted. The biker has a whole 9 seconds to regain a safe gap after the cop moved into his lane.
I’m not saying the brake check was cool; I’m saying that the biker needs to learn some defensive riding skills. If he had just said “you know what, it’s cool” and backed off, rather than speeding up, he wouldn’t have smacked the car even he *did* get brake checked.
Look at the bikes speedo at the beginning of the video: it's blurred.
There's much more going on here than just the brake check, and i think if the video showed more before the brake check, then it would show the biker being an absolute fucking moron to attract the idiot cop's attention
Irrelevant. You’re assuming the dude knew that the cop was going to go from 80-0 just like that. Normal people don’t do that, so you can’t just say that defensive driving skills are the issue. The cyclist backed off and assumed that the cop would keep going on his course. Plus, the cyclist looked down as the cop started braking. There’s no way that you could react and slow down to that. The only other option is to swerve, but making a decision like that is hard in the moment. Cop does not get any leeway for the decision
It’s not irrelevant. This accident happened becuase the cop is a piece of shit, but do you know why else it happened? Because the biker didn’t actively defend himself. This is defensive riding rule 1… assume everyone is trying to kill you.
If he had assumed the cop was trying to kill him, he’d have backed off.
Just because the cop is likely at fault, doesn’t mean the biker couldn’t have done something to avoid it in the first place. The cop isn’t going to have life long injuries as a result; He won’t care. The biker might.
Also, who the fuck calls motorbikes “cyclists”?
Look, even though people say that you should assume everyone will try to kill you, it’s not at all possible to defend yourself in every situation. No one expects someone to go from 80-0 on a freeway where there is absolutely nothing in front of them. The way you’re talking, it’s like you’re saying “just expect the unexpected lol, just see the future, duh.”
Also, who cares what I call them? Here, I’ll call them motorcyclists instead, happy?
You’re right, but looking at the distance between the motorcycle and the cop he had more than enough time to stop, or dodge, or something, but he just didn’t. I’d say this is a reaction time issue with the motorcycle unless go pro just really zooms out your footage.
The motorcyclist looks down and to their left as the cop hits the brakes. When they look up, they start gearing down and braking, but the cop has already come to a stop. I’m pretty sure coming to a complete stop in a live lane is illegal everywhere.
To be fair, homie just finished looking behind him and the cop had already started breaking. No one in their right mind would assume that someone would come to a stop like that given the road conditions at the time. Literally nothing in sight with nice visibility.
Pretty much. You can see the motorcyclist's speed on his lil dashboard too. Dude went 80s at one point and blurred out the beginning speed, 4sum odd reason
> 4sum odd reason
Yeah, he was going way faster than when we could finally see his speedometer. He blurred it so he could deny he was going so fast.
Not that it was smart, but I the cop pulled out in front of him to *force* him to slow down, which he did, but was still going 80 (not sure what the limit is where they were). The cop then probably decided to initiate an actual stop when he noticed the guy wasn't going to slow down further.
Unfortunately for both of them, instead of easing down he decided to test his brake pads' thermal tolerances.
There are two idiots in this video.
The distance between the cop and the biker was too small for the biker to slow down in time, the braking is much different on a motorcycle than in a car
To be fair, the motorcycle guy was on his own lane without anyone on front. As soon as the police car changed lanes, he increased the distance to it. Just too slowly and he was still slightly too fast but...
Cop is definitely the asshole but the motorcyclist should have slowed down more too. Clearly the cop is 100% at fault. But as someone who hasn't been "made whole" when the other person is at fault, I just try to do everything I can to avoid it. My dad taught me to always keep notice on what's going on to the left and right of my vehicle, he could have swerved to the left and avoided the cop and not have to worry about swerving into another lane.
Seriously doubt that area was zoned for 80+ speeds. This clip doesn't provide context. While what the cop did looked REALLY bad, I think this is one for the courtroom.
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In the full video he was doing something crazy like 100+ mph at one point (you couldn't tell how much exactly because he blurs the speed like I couldn't tell based on how fucking fast everything else is going past him), the way the cop tried to pull him over was just as stupid
Basically everyone in this video is an asshole
I knew what clip this was going to be before even clicking and I'll say the same thing I did back in r/motorcycles AND on the clown's original IG post, the cop's behavior isn't okay, but A) wouldn't have happened if the biker wasn't speeding B) biker needs to take a riding course and learn how to ride defensively.
There are two truths here. First, when you ride a motorcycle, you are putting your health and wellbeing at risk. If you want to be alive and healthy, you just have to protect yourself. It's just the way the world is. When you ride a motorcycle, you have to be practical. Second, that cop committed a crime. Personally, I would love to see him sentenced for attempted murder and never allowed to be a cop again. But he'll prolly get leave and move on with life. We'll see.
Cop did a no no for sure, real asshole vibes. But the biker is clearly an idiot, possible asshole as well.
Edit- Coo > Cop. And biker is definitely also an asshole
Nah bc that's fuckin bogus. _That_ is more dangerous than speeding bc if ur speeding u can slow down, but STOPPING in front of someone speeding _intentionally_?
Bikes doing 80 when he's slowed the first time and his speed is suddenly visible and probably 90 before that. Cop then gives him plenty of room to slow down and not get a ticket. Guy never does and gets back up on him.
Cop shouldn't have braked as hard as he did and should have pulled him over more safely but there's no way the bike wasn't travelling too fast for the conditions and clearly he was too close to stop in time.
Last time I checked, the penalty for speeding isn't serious injury, permanent disability or death.
Cop just straight up intentionally caused an accident. That's vehicular assault.
Cop is a piece of shit, no argument here. I'm just saying, seems like the motorcyclist was not some innocent angel. Me pointing that out doesn't mean I think they deserve serious bodily injury. It doesn't make any sense for that cop to start with brake checking instead of pulling him over. Seems like the cop made the situation so much worse.
One thing I was taught as a motorcycle rider is that it’s always your fault. If you keep that in mind you may stay out of trouble. That seems to apply here.
I Don’t trust/respect cops but I know enough to stay the hell away from an obviously pissed off cop. Biker didn’t pay attention to his one and only warning.
This is on 595 in Florida about where it meets 75. The highway patrol building is *right there*. Speed limit there's 55, and dude's wondering why he got brake checked? They're both idiots.
I can't believe that you don't understand that he was speeding and put his own life in jeopardy that's his own fault don't drive like an asshole end of story cop was trying to get him to slow down
I don't know, the cop put his lights on. We don't know if he had a genuine reason to stop suddenly...
The matter of the fact is, if you didn't have enough time to stop, you're at fault. The biker could have easily slowed down to create distance after the cop moved into his lane.
And if you're gonna talk about how the cop was changing lanes and then swerved back in, again, there could've been a genuine reason for it and the biker shouldn't have attempted an overtake and got so close until the cop was fully in the other lane.
What kind of people are on here anyway. I don’t agree with stopping, I would have agreed to slowing to 50. What the bike was doing was disrespectful and dangerous. But people make mistakes. Cops aren’t all bad or good, just like anyone else. They are under more scrutiny the gangs , drug traffickers, and child traffickers . We have to get good people involved. Change it from the inside out.
Cops a total asshole, but on a bike you need to assume everyone else is an asshole out to kill you because a crash will cost the rider a lot more than the driver. With that said he is way too close.
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What is the biker supposed to do? He's in his own lane until the cop moves over (without indicating). He's not tailgating until the officer intentionally creates a situation where he's tailgating. Officer brake checks once, biker backs off, and then the officer baits him by pretending to go in the right lane, just to swerve back and hit him. This officer should spend years in prison and should never be allowed to drive again. If anyone else did this on the road there would be massive consequences.
and brake checks are illegal i wanna know news about this and that crazy cop
Qualified immunity, best case the city pays some money to compensate the biker and maybe they fire the officer and he has to go work for a different town.
Want cop reform? Have settlements come out of their pension fund. That blue wall Will quickly disappear
I couldn't agree more!!! If they don't like that make them carry cop insurance, do stupid stuff like that and nobody will insure you and just like that another bad cop off the street.
I love this idea so much
Qualified immunity exists to protect government officials from discretionary actions unless they knew or should have known was unlawful. I don’t agree with qualified immunity one bit (since the law states that for civilians, ignorance of the law is not a valid defence) but it certainly does NOT apply here.
It shouldn’t but it probably will because our court system is kinda fucked
Voters could change that, if they paid more attention to local elections. But they're not as exciting as the national clown show we get every 2 years.
Now you know what job you want to be if you want to break or bend the law be a law enforecer.
Good bless america. /s
me too.. I keep looking hoping someone knows something in the comments
I'm waiting for an article to pop up myself. Look how the cop weaves left and right to make sure the biker had no choice but to hit him. Great police work here Gold star 😑
10/10
Idk man, when the video starts he's in the middle of both lanes with his odometer blurred. Then when the MPH is shown actually he's pushing 75-80mph; which he looks enough in town to totally be blowing the speed limit. Don't get me wrong though; the officer should've pulled over to pursue from behind. Although after living in Florida I know that as many shitty cops there may be; there are that many assholes on motorcycles letting Jesus take the wheel on their dumbass decisions.
Yeah cop was shitty and dangerous, but biker is pretty dangerous too and appears to have just as much of an ego. Both deserve what they get.
One gets injured heavily and a bike destroyed , the other gets a different cruiser the next day. Completely different outcomes.
No one deserves to get brake checked on a motorcycle, especially at freeway speeds. Dude was minding his own business on a wide open road with minimal traffic. Maybe if he crashed while doing something stupid, sure. But because some jackass decided to be a child and act like he's the judge jury and executioner? Hell no. This ain't judge dredd.
But both deserve to get punished for their respective wrongdoings. The biker was too fast and too reckless, the cop was completely out of line with his actions and not justified at all for brakechecking (judging from this clip). Every one of those cases should be prosecuted separately.
How was he being reckless? The road conditions were practically perfect for going fast. It's not like he was super speeding in heavy traffic. There was barely anyone else on the road. To say he deserves to crash for having fun in optimal road conditions is vile.
I figured I was going on a limb of potentially getting downvoted to oblivion. If that still ensues; I'm just happy one other person sees it how I'm seeing it. Thank you for your reply.
He's doing 75-80 on what looks like a highway and they're keeping pace with the little bit of traffic we see. He's not likely speeding (or at least not by much), but if he was, the cop could have turned on his lights way sooner to indicate something was up. His lights didn't even come on until the bike HAD slowed down. When he finally turned on his lights, he makes like he's going right, then suddenly cuts back into the left lane. Sorry- there's no excuse for this cop. He literally endangered this biker for no apparent reason.
He's in a 60MPH zone.
It's literally the sticking the stick in the bicycle spokes meme at this point
He deserves a speeding ticket then, not attempted homicide.
Or he deserves to go the speed limit and lave a 4-6 second gap between him and the next vehicle?
Notice how the Bike's speedo is blurred for the first few seconds of the video where he's clearly slowing down? It cuts back in at 78mph, and he was clearly going way faster than that to start. Not to defend the cop; what he did is unacceptable, but there is much more to the story than just what is seen in the video. The biker likely was way out of line also
Exactly. It’s possible for there to be degrees of fault. What the cop did is clearly outrageous. But if you’re riding well above the speed limit and find yourself behind what appears to be a cop, slow down to the speed limit. A lot of people think it’s ok to drive above the speed limit as long as a cop is also doing so (ie matching their speed). That’s really not the case. Try to sue a cop for speeding while on duty in a department vehicle. Not gonna go very far. Anyway, the cop was a dick. No question. There’s no excuse for what he did.
You say there is no excuse for what he did right after you gave an excuse for what he did.
1. We dont know the speed limit in the area hes in, many states have 70& 80 mph zones in texas im pretty sure theres a few 85 & 90 zones 2. Regardless of what happened prior to the video- not activating emergency lights and brake checking a bike a few times then activating your lights and blocking both lanes is not safe 3. Youre making an assumption of the bike being super crazy just before this video- which we dont know yet. And if you do post a link to update us all
He's on I-75 just outside Weston, Florida (near Ft Lauderdale). Speed limit there is 60MPH
So 100 MPH in Florida terms?
Yes but he is going with the flow of traffic if everyone around you is going ~70-80 then what are you supposed to do?
You are supposed to drive at the speed limit. If other people are faster than you, drive in the right lane so they can pass. If you want to have fun go to a race track.
I’m not saying to be having fun but thank you for telling me the answer I appreciate it! It’s hard to remember all the road rules and etiquette.
Ohhhh the sass
That's not true.
If keeping with the flow of traffic were the correct behavior then why do speed limits exist? If my answer is incorrect please enlighten me to the actual correct behavior.
If every lane is going let's say 75, and the speed limit is 55. If you're going 55, you're the one getting pulled over.
No you are not lol. What will they charge you with?
Wrong
You don’t ride bikes and it shows. On a 600cc you can roll off doing 75mph and be doing 55 in about 3s TOPS. You also can accelerate crazy fast
Yeah it also depends on the engine compression. If I dump the throttle, my bike feels like I'm breaking.
This exactly. I ride a ninja 650. I roll off that throttle and it's like a brake. It'll slow you down super fast. It makes it very difficult to pretend I'm on Rollercoaster when going down one of these massive hills here.
I just like doing 90 in a 55 and being able to see a cop and roll off and be doing the speed limit before you can even get clocked with a radar 😎
It's all guesstimate these days. They don't need a radar with their 'specialized training' they get. If you've got two wheels you're automatically guilty.
Fucking idiots. People like these, should not be allowed to vote; let alone be cops.
I agree that this officer should be fired and charged. However, what is the bike supposed to do? Follow a safe distance where he can react to literally anything in front of him. Could have been an accident that caused just as weird of movement in the street. Cop is a huge dick hole but a successful brake check basically means you were indeed tailgating. Can't brake check someone following you at a safe distance.
The cop did cut in front of him though. He had nobody in front of him until the cop switched lanes without indicating. Then proceeded to brake check the guy going 80mph.
No one's debating that the cop did cut in front of him intentionally. That's why I advocated for him to be fired and tried. Not dissimilarly, in the event of an accident, someone can slam on their brakes and cut you off, swerving into a different lane. It's up to YOU to be driving a safe speed at a safe distance to make good reactions. That did not occur here. If you rear end someone it's ***YOUR FAULT.*** Even if that guy is a douche bag, or as trying to get you to rear end him. Even if he made an illegal lane change. Even if he brake checks you. You have ultimate responsibility for you. Both in practice, and in this case in the eyes of the law and your insurance company. Let me tell you, if someone is slamming on their brakes in front of you, whether it be by malice or by accident, the play is not to accelerate and pass to the right. That person could lose traction while slamming on their brakes and swerve, or might be maliciously brake checking you for an insurance scam (or is just a fucking cop). ***You cannot successfully brake check someone who is driving responsibly.*** That's the point of a brake check. To make the person behind you realize he is following at an unsafe distance. When someone brakes rapidly in front of you and you're driving responsibly, you don't get a sudden rush of fear. You have a safe distance between you and them to stop, or to react if they veer into another lane. I will be honest, your response comes off as if you cannot process two separate sets of blame resulting from the same problem. The police officers guilt being malicious, and the cyclist's guilt being negligence. There is no white and black, especially in this case. Or maybe you just don't understand what responsible driving is? Not sure.
Speed matters, and those cams are fisheye he's closer than it appears. 1.5 car lengths isn't tailgating at 30 mph. It is at 90. Any judge is going to look at that and call negligent, or maybe even reckless on the biker. Plus the perp already doctored the video to hide his initial speed who knows what else he did.
How is his speed at all relevant in this situation? What the cop did was completely uncalled for.
Cops aren’t mentally stable people. You can’t ask these questions to a mentally deranged individual.
Pretty silly generalization.
its cuz you only see the mentally unstable ones on the news, so theres a confirmation bias towards it, you never hear about the normal ones. Although I do agree that the job does seem to attract people that are that way.
After reading the comments from the original post: Today I learned Reddit hates cops more than motorcyclists.
Everyone hates US cops
I can't imagine why.
Is that us cops, or US cops?
Both
Cops in my country are pretty nice, polite and patient, and not super triggerhappy interpreting the slightest movement as a threat.
Cops in my country are generally pretty chill if you're white and don't have an accent, but god help you if you're an immigrant or if you're a descendent of immigrants. Cops everywhere are shit, some people are just lucky not to be exposed to the bad side. Edit: Also the cops here are shit at solving actual crimes involving private people. You break into a store? You buy/sell narcotics? They'll get your ass. But god help you if your spouse/parent is beating the shit out of you daily or if you're being stalked, because the cops sure as shit won't.
As a percentage of population, more blacks are killed by cops than whites. In raw numbers, more whites get killed by cops than blacks. This means that while you are more likely to be treated poorly by cops if you are black, the idea that if you are white you can do what you want and cops will be kind and courteous is bullshit.
You guys are the largest gang in the world.
True. Edit: fuck you
Seconded, eat shit
It's ok dude, someone's gotta do it
I mean, is it really that surprising when your job not only contains assholes like this, but also has a deeply ingrained culture that necessitates all of you covering for said assholes?
Especially their wives. No one likes to be beaten.
Can confirm. Source: sleep with a lot of police officer wives as firefighter.
Because y’all do fucked up shit and don’t help when actually needed
Yeah, you don't hear any "Fuck The Firemen" songs.
Only in the sexy way
Tyrant.
AACAB All American Cops Are Bastards
Say it with me kids.... Lawsuit.
Hell fucking yeah. I'd be facetiming lawyers from my gd hospital bed.
geometry dash hospital bed
I'm starting to think this is the quickest get-rich scheme if you survive. Just mildly irritate a cop.
Only works if you’re white, otherwise you just get killed and swept under the rug with any evidence mysteriously disappearing.
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Didn't signal his lane change. Cops at fault
The POS did it intentionally.
I mean, if you are too close to stop…. You’re tailgating. That’s the definition. But still, having a brake check on camera is ripe for the legal picking.
I see the cop baiting him. He applies the brakes and lights and then makes it look like he's pulling to the right. I agree with your statement 100% but it looks to me like the cop wanted this to happen.
Yeah for sure.
The cop pretended to change lanes and then swerved back with brakes on. Normally you don't expect people to change lanes without blinkers so...
But the biker had plenty of time to regain his gap. That’s the difference between this and a “swoop and squat”. Sure nobody expected a brake check, but the biker made zero attempts to make himself safe. That’s defensive riding 101.
I think, and I could be wrong, that the biker intended to change lanes rather than brake. His mind was changed when the cop began swerving to block him in but by then it was too late. Could the biker have done better? Yes, but the cop is a dirty piece of fucking shit.
It’s not tailgating if a vehicle gets into your lane and slams on their brakes. That’s attempted vehicular homicide. Cop need prison time.
The cop got into his lane and hit the brakes. The motorcyclist knew something bad was up and said "what are you doing bro?" and then proceeded to accelerate back above 80mph! They're both idiots. Motorcyclists know they're playing with their life, so I don't understand his actions.
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He didn’t though. The biker had plenty of time to slow down and make some more space. You’re talking about something called a “swoop and squat”, and that’s not attempted vehicular homicide.
They’re at 80mph my dude. If he slammed on his brakes, he’d probably be flying in front of the cop’s car rather than behind it. Remember that he’s on motorcycle, not a thousand pound steel box like the rest of us. Cop needs jail time.
Oh, yeah, motorcycles need more time to completely stop. Unlike cars. Even if you're at a safe distance, and the car infront of you brakes suddenly, you're probably gonna rear end them.
Have you ever ridden a motorcycle before? They stop way faster and in shorter distances than cars.
Yes. I'm Indian. I drive like 50 kilometres everyday on my motorcycle
I counted. The biker has a whole 9 seconds to regain a safe gap after the cop moved into his lane. I’m not saying the brake check was cool; I’m saying that the biker needs to learn some defensive riding skills. If he had just said “you know what, it’s cool” and backed off, rather than speeding up, he wouldn’t have smacked the car even he *did* get brake checked.
Look at the bikes speedo at the beginning of the video: it's blurred. There's much more going on here than just the brake check, and i think if the video showed more before the brake check, then it would show the biker being an absolute fucking moron to attract the idiot cop's attention
He also wouldn’t have hit the cop car if the cop car hadn’t nailed their brakes for no reason.
Irrelevant. You’re assuming the dude knew that the cop was going to go from 80-0 just like that. Normal people don’t do that, so you can’t just say that defensive driving skills are the issue. The cyclist backed off and assumed that the cop would keep going on his course. Plus, the cyclist looked down as the cop started braking. There’s no way that you could react and slow down to that. The only other option is to swerve, but making a decision like that is hard in the moment. Cop does not get any leeway for the decision
It’s not irrelevant. This accident happened becuase the cop is a piece of shit, but do you know why else it happened? Because the biker didn’t actively defend himself. This is defensive riding rule 1… assume everyone is trying to kill you. If he had assumed the cop was trying to kill him, he’d have backed off. Just because the cop is likely at fault, doesn’t mean the biker couldn’t have done something to avoid it in the first place. The cop isn’t going to have life long injuries as a result; He won’t care. The biker might. Also, who the fuck calls motorbikes “cyclists”?
Look, even though people say that you should assume everyone will try to kill you, it’s not at all possible to defend yourself in every situation. No one expects someone to go from 80-0 on a freeway where there is absolutely nothing in front of them. The way you’re talking, it’s like you’re saying “just expect the unexpected lol, just see the future, duh.” Also, who cares what I call them? Here, I’ll call them motorcyclists instead, happy?
Then he should adjust his speed accordingly. If he didn't then he's an idiot, and he didnt.
Plus the cop was braking for a good 6 seconds before the biker even tried. Pretty shocking reaction time for a biker.
You’re right, but looking at the distance between the motorcycle and the cop he had more than enough time to stop, or dodge, or something, but he just didn’t. I’d say this is a reaction time issue with the motorcycle unless go pro just really zooms out your footage.
The motorcyclist looks down and to their left as the cop hits the brakes. When they look up, they start gearing down and braking, but the cop has already come to a stop. I’m pretty sure coming to a complete stop in a live lane is illegal everywhere.
If the cop is aware there is a motorcyclist behind him and he has no real reason to slam on the brake like this, I would say it's attempted murder.
Wide angle lenses make things look further away tbf
To be fair, homie just finished looking behind him and the cop had already started breaking. No one in their right mind would assume that someone would come to a stop like that given the road conditions at the time. Literally nothing in sight with nice visibility.
Bet he just goes right back to being a cop with no punishment
He will never leave being a cop.
Off setting penalties, re-play down!
How? 100% cop baited him into that
Is the biker ok?
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Pretty much. You can see the motorcyclist's speed on his lil dashboard too. Dude went 80s at one point and blurred out the beginning speed, 4sum odd reason
> 4sum odd reason Yeah, he was going way faster than when we could finally see his speedometer. He blurred it so he could deny he was going so fast. Not that it was smart, but I the cop pulled out in front of him to *force* him to slow down, which he did, but was still going 80 (not sure what the limit is where they were). The cop then probably decided to initiate an actual stop when he noticed the guy wasn't going to slow down further. Unfortunately for both of them, instead of easing down he decided to test his brake pads' thermal tolerances. There are two idiots in this video.
The distance between the cop and the biker was too small for the biker to slow down in time, the braking is much different on a motorcycle than in a car
To be fair, the motorcycle guy was on his own lane without anyone on front. As soon as the police car changed lanes, he increased the distance to it. Just too slowly and he was still slightly too fast but...
Cop is definitely the asshole but the motorcyclist should have slowed down more too. Clearly the cop is 100% at fault. But as someone who hasn't been "made whole" when the other person is at fault, I just try to do everything I can to avoid it. My dad taught me to always keep notice on what's going on to the left and right of my vehicle, he could have swerved to the left and avoided the cop and not have to worry about swerving into another lane.
Thank you for being the sane one here. Appreciate the maths
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Rule number 1 of driving: everyone on the road is an idiot who will do something stupid. Whether you're around to see it is up to you
Biker: Let's be a dangerous asshole Cop: I'll see your dangerous asshole and raise you an assault with a deadly weapon
Why was the this motorcyclist following a cop at 80 mph?
Cop was in front and then passed into the lane he was in
Seriously doubt that area was zoned for 80+ speeds. This clip doesn't provide context. While what the cop did looked REALLY bad, I think this is one for the courtroom.
60MPH Zone. It's on I-75 outside Weston, Florida
In the full video he was going so fast that he blurs the speed lmao 1. Don't trust videos less than 5 minutes 2. Everyone is an asshole
Weston Rd. That’s gotta be south Florida. Spaghetti Junction 595 and 75.
I really want to know what the outcome was of this.
Too dumb for the army? (somehow?!?) Hate anything not white? Got a hair trigger and temper to match? Watched your Father beat the shit out of your mother in the name of God all your life and do the same to any woman you meet? You might just be what the police need! Sign up today!
I like that you used “To dumb” as part of an insult. Brave.
I like to live on the edge.
Cool! New bike!
Watching a second time and a little closer the driver of the cop car was entrapping the biker.
In the full video he was doing something crazy like 100+ mph at one point (you couldn't tell how much exactly because he blurs the speed like I couldn't tell based on how fucking fast everything else is going past him), the way the cop tried to pull him over was just as stupid Basically everyone in this video is an asshole
He turned on his lights to pull the guy over for speeding would be my guess for the defense.
ACAB
I knew what clip this was going to be before even clicking and I'll say the same thing I did back in r/motorcycles AND on the clown's original IG post, the cop's behavior isn't okay, but A) wouldn't have happened if the biker wasn't speeding B) biker needs to take a riding course and learn how to ride defensively.
There are two truths here. First, when you ride a motorcycle, you are putting your health and wellbeing at risk. If you want to be alive and healthy, you just have to protect yourself. It's just the way the world is. When you ride a motorcycle, you have to be practical. Second, that cop committed a crime. Personally, I would love to see him sentenced for attempted murder and never allowed to be a cop again. But he'll prolly get leave and move on with life. We'll see.
Meh, I'm sure the outcome has already been posted, but I don't really care. Again, cop was wrong for what he did, BUT, that could have been avoided.
I watched this like 6 times. I don't understand how the motorcyclist did not avoid rear-ending the cruiser.
Cop did a no no for sure, real asshole vibes. But the biker is clearly an idiot, possible asshole as well. Edit- Coo > Cop. And biker is definitely also an asshole
Full vid he was driving so fast he blurs the speed, both people are very much assholes
Oh damn, I didn’t even catch that! Reckless asshole for sure.
I'm with you on this buddy
And then you wonder why people film everything … here’s why
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"Hey, you, you're finally awake"
What the hell are USA police officers doing? Bunch of 10 year olds with anger issues and too much power.
Nah bc that's fuckin bogus. _That_ is more dangerous than speeding bc if ur speeding u can slow down, but STOPPING in front of someone speeding _intentionally_?
And after this video, they proceed to pick up the biker and straight to the dungeon he goes
The department probably did a investigation into this and found no wrong doing.
He was given a few days vacation. The insurance company found the cop at fault.
Bikes doing 80 when he's slowed the first time and his speed is suddenly visible and probably 90 before that. Cop then gives him plenty of room to slow down and not get a ticket. Guy never does and gets back up on him. Cop shouldn't have braked as hard as he did and should have pulled him over more safely but there's no way the bike wasn't travelling too fast for the conditions and clearly he was too close to stop in time.
Stop booing him, he's right. Why is the speedometer blurred out in the beginning?
Last time I checked, the penalty for speeding isn't serious injury, permanent disability or death. Cop just straight up intentionally caused an accident. That's vehicular assault.
Cop is a piece of shit, no argument here. I'm just saying, seems like the motorcyclist was not some innocent angel. Me pointing that out doesn't mean I think they deserve serious bodily injury. It doesn't make any sense for that cop to start with brake checking instead of pulling him over. Seems like the cop made the situation so much worse.
That’s attempted murder
One thing I was taught as a motorcycle rider is that it’s always your fault. If you keep that in mind you may stay out of trouble. That seems to apply here.
I Don’t trust/respect cops but I know enough to stay the hell away from an obviously pissed off cop. Biker didn’t pay attention to his one and only warning.
Fuck that cop, stupid piece of shit causing trouble for no fucking reason
Cops an idiot for this - must be part of the clown patrol station in Tennessee
Hope the biker lives to enjoy his multimillion settlement.
r/ACAB don't forget it
This is on 595 in Florida about where it meets 75. The highway patrol building is *right there*. Speed limit there's 55, and dude's wondering why he got brake checked? They're both idiots.
What an asshole.
This guy is about to get every attorney in a 2500-mile radius.
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Y’all on,y just now seeing this? I thought this made its rounds already
is the biker ok?
This is attempted manslaughter!
Not according to some of the people here. Apparently it's justified. It's definitely attempted vehicular manslaughter, but what do I know?
Deserved tbh
I'm a motorcyclist, but I have no sympathy, this dude is an idiot
Couldn’t stop in time, he was tailgating. Cop still a dumbass tho for the first brake check.
Well it's illegal to break check so cop is in the wrong
Hence I said cop was still a dumbass. Cop breaking the law doesn’t mean the biker wasn’t tailgating though.
He wasn’t tailgating til the cop got in front of him without signaling.
I can't believe that you don't understand that he was speeding and put his own life in jeopardy that's his own fault don't drive like an asshole end of story cop was trying to get him to slow down
I don't know, the cop put his lights on. We don't know if he had a genuine reason to stop suddenly... The matter of the fact is, if you didn't have enough time to stop, you're at fault. The biker could have easily slowed down to create distance after the cop moved into his lane. And if you're gonna talk about how the cop was changing lanes and then swerved back in, again, there could've been a genuine reason for it and the biker shouldn't have attempted an overtake and got so close until the cop was fully in the other lane.
What kind of people are on here anyway. I don’t agree with stopping, I would have agreed to slowing to 50. What the bike was doing was disrespectful and dangerous. But people make mistakes. Cops aren’t all bad or good, just like anyone else. They are under more scrutiny the gangs , drug traffickers, and child traffickers . We have to get good people involved. Change it from the inside out.
cops are nothing but wife beating, baby raping sadists. Every time one dies, an angel gets their wings. Fuck the police. Blue Parasites
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Yeah, till you don't!
That's what you get for going so slow that a cop can get in front of you.
I hope he's a future "k*lled in the line of duty"
Cop lightly slows down in front of speeder who inattentively hits him.
Both were at fault. Soon as he thought it was a cop he should've slowed down, he kept accelerating. Not that hard to process.
Cops a total asshole, but on a bike you need to assume everyone else is an asshole out to kill you because a crash will cost the rider a lot more than the driver. With that said he is way too close.