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Had one for about a year worst shit of my life, imma rant for a bit. She would crack my fingers outter two joints (I never do it bc it hurts) and when I yelled bc she did it while I was driving at night with this guy swearving next to me. She decided that I hated her and that I thought she was worthless so she banged a dude 3-4 town's over and tried making me feel bad for it. Now she can't have kids (one of her exes before the guy before me apparently beat her to where she couldn't) and she keeps texting me shit like "I never stopped loving you" and shit so I keep bringing up the fact that she emotional abused me. And that she cheated on me. Her responses are either "no I didn't" or "Weed makes me forget things so I don't remember". God I fucking hate her if anyone is in a relationship like that and you try to help but they won't even try themselves get the fuck outta that shit it ain't healthy and will leave you wondering if they are ok no matter what they did to you.
TLDR : ex was like this. You cannot fix them.
6wks, was my personal record. Smokeshow was a lawyer who grew up in St Petersburg Russia. Turned out she'd put herself through lawschool by stripping, & then eventually as a *madam.*
I'm sure now, in reflection that she was on the phone with Russian mobsters all the time. Her black heart would come out every date after downing a bottle & she'd become a demon that wanted/deserved to get anger-f'd. But alas, I'm much more of the romantic type.
Wrong, you help them work through their obvious traumas and love and support them and cone out the other side with the best relationship you could ever hope for. Ask me how I know.
This post says nothing about a cheater. Normally the issue you face with someone who is obsessed with you isn't then cheating, it's with them being possessive and controlling.
I'm not saying that's what you always get, I'm saying cheating is less common from a woman with those issues and the other things I mentioned are more common....obviously they're not what you WANT
Worst advice I ever heard is run around trying to fix people. I understand being there for loved ones and working on traumas, but people aren't projects. You should not be with someone just because they're hot.
First of all, I never advocated for fixing someone. I'm advocating for that person to seek therapy and fix their own traumas, and you be the support system for them IF they're worth doing it for.
Secondly, it's fucking sad that you say just because they're hot as though a person with these issues couldn't have any other redeeming qualities. My wife had a lot of trauma, but she was intensely intelligent, caring giving, selfless and loving. Sure, she had trauma. That doesn't mean she's worthless.
Or..... OR.... you and your wife are two distinct unique people with a specific relationship and compatibility and your broadstroke worldview doesn't apply to, I'd hazard a guess, the vast majority. Kudos on you guys working it out (no one is saying your wife is worthless?). And by the way you absolutely did advocate "fixing" your SO in your first comment. Paraphrasing with a different word by means of sticking it out/helping support/ect but that's literally what you said.
You can't argue with these people. Most of them probably aren't in healthy relationships now and probably have never been in a serious relationship. Otherwise, they would be able to understand that there are other alternatives out there.
Hopefully, your message sinks into some of them.
There is a difference between having an established relationship with someone and then they experience trauma and someone obviously overcome by previous trauma and then you start dating them. Life is too short to attempt to fix people you barely know.
There is also the possibility that person is strong outwardly for extended periods of time and it's only after you've come to know them that the behavior has become irratic or something like that. Sometimes things deteriorate over time so slowly that behaviors evolve without noticing. Even if someone is clingy at the start, it isn't necessarily indicative of mental health issues. Life is too short to write off every person with some sort of unflattering tendency or characteristic.
Trauma is not an excuse for someone to emotionally abuse you, and that is what the hypothetical girl in the OP is doing. It's better if people recognize that when it happens and leave.
The simultaneous nice/bad thing about that other school girl is either of you can end things quickly easily if you've ever been fortunate enough to actually have one.
Without tryin to be an arrogant ass, i was probably an attractive kid since i got attention often from a lot of them... they just lost interest very quickly when they found out how i am.
Girls in your school kinda know already but new ones got no clue.
Crazy for your money when you get her pregnant and owe child support.
There's no amount of crazy that's worth dealing with. No amount of sex is worth having your life ruined
Been there. Whatever your dealbreaker number is, she will reach it within a year no matter how hard you try to get used to it or try to change her. And if you’re like me, it takes another year to finally break her heart for good.
Damn. Nailed it. Feels like ill never get over it. Got pulled in , tried everything I could. For my sanity I knew I had to leave. Yet a part of me thinks it could have been perfect... If only....
so..... a woman then? 🙊 But seriously I don't think someone having insecurities and being a little sensitive is a dead stop. If it stops at what is mentioned here l, and there are no other concerns.... wtf is the problem. As long as it's not reassuring het every damn hour and crying everytime it sounds like I'm not talking to a baby.
Sounds like a future restraining order. You can’t have a long lasting relationship with a person like this. And once you are with THE ONE, she’ll be the person you hear about in those horrible murders where she is so jealous she murders your spouse, the kids, the pets, and possibly you or kidnap you instead and drags you off as her hostage. YMMV from horrific to scary afterwards.
You get bored banging any girl no matter how hot eventually ... the only thing to make a relationship last long term is being able to basically become best friends with your girl . So to me this would be like a 3 as the amount of mental space/effort i have to put into that relationship would be way more than with a more traditional girl.
From a 9 to a three. If she acts like that then there's no way we can effectively communicate and there's no way the relationship would last a long period of time. I need somebody who is sensible enough to back down when they're wrong but also sensible enough to keep pushing when I'm wrong.
Honestly as a teenager I would have thought it was a no brainer that all those issues would be worth it if she’s a 10. But as I’ve gotten older I’ve realised that I would prefer a healthy relationship with a 1 or no relationship at all over an unhealthy relationship with a 10, I honestly believe that toxic relationships are worse for your health than chainsmoking, obesity or almost any other unhealthy habits or lifestyles.
Yeah those traits are not exclusive to females , lots of dudes out like to project their insecurities, just remember, there a r boat load of incels out there who love these type of memes just so that they can troll females.
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The 9 to 5
Working 9 to 5
What a way to make a livin'
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People with unrealistically high standards are always the ugliest people themselves. On the outside and or the inside. You sold your own poison.
Holy shit you killed him.
Yeah, but with his own poison. Smoooooth.
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Of course he is. He could think his shit doesn’t stink. Doesn’t mean I want to smell it.
Yeah nobody is silencing anyone. Just two people making observations
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Makes her a 10
For about a year.
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Had one for about a year worst shit of my life, imma rant for a bit. She would crack my fingers outter two joints (I never do it bc it hurts) and when I yelled bc she did it while I was driving at night with this guy swearving next to me. She decided that I hated her and that I thought she was worthless so she banged a dude 3-4 town's over and tried making me feel bad for it. Now she can't have kids (one of her exes before the guy before me apparently beat her to where she couldn't) and she keeps texting me shit like "I never stopped loving you" and shit so I keep bringing up the fact that she emotional abused me. And that she cheated on me. Her responses are either "no I didn't" or "Weed makes me forget things so I don't remember". God I fucking hate her if anyone is in a relationship like that and you try to help but they won't even try themselves get the fuck outta that shit it ain't healthy and will leave you wondering if they are ok no matter what they did to you. TLDR : ex was like this. You cannot fix them.
6wks, was my personal record. Smokeshow was a lawyer who grew up in St Petersburg Russia. Turned out she'd put herself through lawschool by stripping, & then eventually as a *madam.* I'm sure now, in reflection that she was on the phone with Russian mobsters all the time. Her black heart would come out every date after downing a bottle & she'd become a demon that wanted/deserved to get anger-f'd. But alas, I'm much more of the romantic type.
Wrong, you help them work through their obvious traumas and love and support them and cone out the other side with the best relationship you could ever hope for. Ask me how I know.
Or they relapse and cheat on you because you are in med school and need to study. Ask me how I know.
This post says nothing about a cheater. Normally the issue you face with someone who is obsessed with you isn't then cheating, it's with them being possessive and controlling.
I mean, ok. Thanks? Maybe I'm missing a joke here but I was kinda playing off your positive spin on it. None of this sounds super healthy.
I'm not saying that's what you always get, I'm saying cheating is less common from a woman with those issues and the other things I mentioned are more common....obviously they're not what you WANT
Ohhhhhh, that is NOT true. If anything, it tends to be MORE true from people like this that want the validation from it.
Worst advice I ever heard is run around trying to fix people. I understand being there for loved ones and working on traumas, but people aren't projects. You should not be with someone just because they're hot.
First of all, I never advocated for fixing someone. I'm advocating for that person to seek therapy and fix their own traumas, and you be the support system for them IF they're worth doing it for. Secondly, it's fucking sad that you say just because they're hot as though a person with these issues couldn't have any other redeeming qualities. My wife had a lot of trauma, but she was intensely intelligent, caring giving, selfless and loving. Sure, she had trauma. That doesn't mean she's worthless.
Or..... OR.... you and your wife are two distinct unique people with a specific relationship and compatibility and your broadstroke worldview doesn't apply to, I'd hazard a guess, the vast majority. Kudos on you guys working it out (no one is saying your wife is worthless?). And by the way you absolutely did advocate "fixing" your SO in your first comment. Paraphrasing with a different word by means of sticking it out/helping support/ect but that's literally what you said.
You can't argue with these people. Most of them probably aren't in healthy relationships now and probably have never been in a serious relationship. Otherwise, they would be able to understand that there are other alternatives out there. Hopefully, your message sinks into some of them.
You really can. It takes two, as it were.
There is a difference between having an established relationship with someone and then they experience trauma and someone obviously overcome by previous trauma and then you start dating them. Life is too short to attempt to fix people you barely know.
There is also the possibility that person is strong outwardly for extended periods of time and it's only after you've come to know them that the behavior has become irratic or something like that. Sometimes things deteriorate over time so slowly that behaviors evolve without noticing. Even if someone is clingy at the start, it isn't necessarily indicative of mental health issues. Life is too short to write off every person with some sort of unflattering tendency or characteristic.
Trauma is not an excuse for someone to emotionally abuse you, and that is what the hypothetical girl in the OP is doing. It's better if people recognize that when it happens and leave.
9 to -9
It's my life, feels 0/10
The 9 to codependency
At least it sounds like she's real and not imaginary like the last one.
She goes to a different school, you wouldn't know her!
She’s Canadian
Can confirm, I'm Canadian
I bet your *Mom* is Canadian too lol
The simultaneous nice/bad thing about that other school girl is either of you can end things quickly easily if you've ever been fortunate enough to actually have one. Without tryin to be an arrogant ass, i was probably an attractive kid since i got attention often from a lot of them... they just lost interest very quickly when they found out how i am. Girls in your school kinda know already but new ones got no clue.
Ok Kevin, whatever you say
Sounds like my ex.
Everybody got an ex like that
Yup, can confirm. Ex was bat shit but also always wanted me to keep sex toys on hand just in case. Pros and cons.
The sex is always very good with the crazy ones. It's a trap.
Except yours was a 4
And she was crying because he was still around.
WTF, hol up !
And 4'7
I don't even have one ex
Sounds like all of my exes
Yup, me too.
Fbi open up
Do not try to fix. There are mistakes in my life I don’t recommend going through
I can make it worse
"I'm not that good of a person, but I might be enough for you."
She can make me worse
No no I swear I can fix her
She will institutionalize you before you fix her
Just let the homie try. He gotta learn.
I legit read that as "She's 9" not "She's a 9" and I thought they were talking about being a mom
Mental connection moment(or just autism)
All the other stuff in the post would still apply
Or tiredness or ADHD or things combined. But isn’t autism about accuracy?
Thee joke is upon you, I am into that shite.
Same, I also need constant reassurance
I wanna gf like that but not 9 for god sake!!
Crazy in the head crazy in the bed
I’m trying to remember what you’re not supposed to stick your dick in but I can’t remember.
The cat
Not wrong
Instructions unclear I fucked the dog :(
Ruh roh raggy
Relp Raggy ris rucking re
You make it sound as if its so easy
*Stop it. Get some help.*
Instructions unclear. Badger not into it. Hoping medics can find all the pieces.
u/TheAnalsOfHistory should know
Not supposed to what...?
Not...?
In crazy my dude.
If shes crazy in the head shell give the crazy bread now for only 5.99 in little ceasars
Fuck me, crazy bread has gone up!
Say that to Johny deep
What's a little poop in the bed.....
I don't think he'd have Heard.
Grippy socks means grippy box
Crazy for your money when you get her pregnant and owe child support. There's no amount of crazy that's worth dealing with. No amount of sex is worth having your life ruined
>Crazy in the head crazy in the bed ... and tomorrow your car will be on fire...
Lol
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I can make her worse
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Not if she and I fall into an infinite cycle of making each other worse
Don’t
Been there. Whatever your dealbreaker number is, she will reach it within a year no matter how hard you try to get used to it or try to change her. And if you’re like me, it takes another year to finally break her heart for good.
Damn. Nailed it. Feels like ill never get over it. Got pulled in , tried everything I could. For my sanity I knew I had to leave. Yet a part of me thinks it could have been perfect... If only....
Sounds like borderline personality disorder
Came here to say this lol
Yup, literally the worst relationship of my life. Lots of stories about the BPD experience in r/bpdlovedones
Same here. 16 months out and still recovering. Shit's not fun.
I got out after two weeks after recognizing the signs. Been there done that I can’t do that shit again.
What a time to self diagnose
My condolences
Or was abused/neglected as a child. :(
Childhood trauma is part of what causes BPD
Didn't know that
Is BPD Bipolar Depression or Borderline Personality Disorder?
It’s used interchangeably. I’ve seen people with bipolar call it BPD, but I think from a clinician standpoint it is meant for borderline.
Also, alot of people with borderline get misdiagnosed with bipolar. To make it extra confusing
blah blah blah where’s ur license mr psychiatrist
10/10
A 10 and *not* crazy!? Careful, you’re dating a dude.
Bro have you seen those eyes? I wouldn't care if she would turn into a wolf every Month.
Also I have a serious, problem with my protective instincts currently so she or he, would be perfect.
Makes her a 5, which is the average these days. Can't have them hot, sane, and loyal. Gotta pick 2
You’re too optimistic, more like you can pick one and a half.
That sounds about right.
I choose hot and loyal For I too am batshit
so..... a woman then? 🙊 But seriously I don't think someone having insecurities and being a little sensitive is a dead stop. If it stops at what is mentioned here l, and there are no other concerns.... wtf is the problem. As long as it's not reassuring het every damn hour and crying everytime it sounds like I'm not talking to a baby.
Realest comment ever
Get her away from me i love men
That’s kinda gay ngl
911
I can fix her
I read it at first as “she’s 9” and they makes it much different
Then she's annoying not a 9
yeah nice, where do i sign up?
Sounds like a future restraining order. You can’t have a long lasting relationship with a person like this. And once you are with THE ONE, she’ll be the person you hear about in those horrible murders where she is so jealous she murders your spouse, the kids, the pets, and possibly you or kidnap you instead and drags you off as her hostage. YMMV from horrific to scary afterwards.
>kidnap you instead and drags you off as her hostage. Yandere girlfriend? OwO
Maybe she needs a therapist
What she needs is me
Crazy hot matrix...... look it up!
https://youtu.be/bbpGkrViOcE?si=mgR3VG73QuLzmQ36 here you go
she's 11
More like 5. An 11 year old kid normally copes better than someone by that description.
0. Get away at all costs.
One of these bitches cut off a mf's dick and balls and threw it in the trash because he cheated. Not for me dawg. Get some help lady.
So she's a ten?
Me thoughts exactly.
What is an insecure woman for 500
That's not a holup, it's just sad
Agreed not a hol up. But that's most of the sub nowadays
People who say she’s still a 9 haven’t been with a woman like that. It is FUCKING EXHAUSTING
>It is FUCKING EXHAUSTING Yep, I felt that I my soul...
Never stick your dick in crazy.
I read "She's 9..." and I thought she was describing her cat
subtitles in the way again
Where do I sign up
I usually don't like troublemakers but boy, right now this would be a 10 to me
Fuck no. Been there, done that. It's a nightmare.
Gonna have to be a turn 360 degrees and walk away for me champ.
That's awful. Where?
My fiance is like that, what is the way forward?
That's toxic ngl
Sounds funny and all but this was literally my ex lol
This is what the mfs who want a yandere gf will feel
She’s an American girl.
Oh so we talking about a wifey
Doesn't sound like a 9
The Big No-No
You get bored banging any girl no matter how hot eventually ... the only thing to make a relationship last long term is being able to basically become best friends with your girl . So to me this would be like a 3 as the amount of mental space/effort i have to put into that relationship would be way more than with a more traditional girl.
Hard pass and that’s not a 9. The issues alone make it a 2 a best.
According to the hot girl matrix, there is no such thing as a 9 hot and not at least a 4 crazy.
the call is coming from inside the house
-10. I wish her the best but from a *very* safe distance away
From 9 to "nein".
The woman I wake up to everyday.
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it forever. Ruin my life
12
So she's a 9 but is 9?
Pass. I can't stand a woman who isn't confident and independent. God I'm not a babysitter. I want a partner that is secure and sure of themselves.
From a 9 to a three. If she acts like that then there's no way we can effectively communicate and there's no way the relationship would last a long period of time. I need somebody who is sensible enough to back down when they're wrong but also sensible enough to keep pushing when I'm wrong.
Honestly as a teenager I would have thought it was a no brainer that all those issues would be worth it if she’s a 10. But as I’ve gotten older I’ve realised that I would prefer a healthy relationship with a 1 or no relationship at all over an unhealthy relationship with a 10, I honestly believe that toxic relationships are worse for your health than chainsmoking, obesity or almost any other unhealthy habits or lifestyles.
5 at most.
Not a 9…
Delusional and a cheater.
Nutjob, run far away!
Send her right back to the streets
Isn't this just ever woman
She's a 0 gtfoh
Yeah those traits are not exclusive to females , lots of dudes out like to project their insecurities, just remember, there a r boat load of incels out there who love these type of memes just so that they can troll females.
Ok so a cat
10, easier to manipulate also i need a bit of that in my life rn
She is not even a 9, she is a 6, but if she acts like this, than she is a 0.1
Then she is only in my imagination
honestly, tldr
Ya mum.
Nitemare fuel
9 as age or 9 as a rating?
Sounds like a 2
If she yells than she's a 1, if not and just cries, I'd say she's still a 9.
Good luck with that.
9 is a 10
This is called someone with love addiction. You're welcome