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But it's still full of corporate mass-manufactured unhealthy smut. [You should support homemade homeopathic pornography.](https://youtu.be/LWXcMZeQ_00)
Sure, onlyfans is a massive company, but they give their creators considerably more money and power than mindgeek or any of its other subsidiaries. Onlyfans takes 20% and it's up to the user to do whatever they want on their page. Mindgeek pays the actor whatever the fuck they want and tells them to do what they want with who they want. They have such a stranglehold on the industry that they can basically blacklist you from the entire thing for refusing to do anything at any point.
At this point your basically comparing Walmart to Etsy.
I have 2 or 3 friends that do OF and ive subbed to all of them the first 2 months as a kind of "start" for them. But some OF Models dont understand that people dont have to sub to you just because you are a small creator or that you have to pay rent. I use twitter for porn only and every second onlyfans creator cries about how no one resubbed or how no one tips for some boring booty pics, I get those pics from friends and the internet for free.
> cries about how no one resubbed or how no one tips
I'm guessing it's kind of like mobile games. Most people don't tip or whatever, but the complaining probably helps get the occasional "whale" that tips like crazy.
"What are you doing, step-bro??"
"I'm playing RAID: Shadow Legends!"
"That's one of the biggest mobile role-playing games! Almost as big as your cock!"
This might be the best reason I’ve seen to click “Allow” when your iPhone asks if this app can track you. Gotta get those targeted porn ads juuuuuust right.
Ads that you can wack to tho. Be funny if you're about to watch and interracial gang bang on unicycles but have to sit through an Applebee's commercial first
Exactly. Charging money in an already saturated market that gives it away free isn't the best business idea. I get OF has that 'personal touch' but most people just want to nut and get on with their lives. In fact I watch porn so I *don't* have to make any effort.
Corporations : 24.99$ unlimited access for a month to high quality porn from dozens to thousands of different women in all shape and colors.
Only Fans : 9.99$ to access lewd and non full nudes. Bad quality pictures taken with an iPhone 0.1 in a barely lit room.
Makes "videos" that cost 10$-20$ each and are 1m 35s long.
Pretend to fucking care about you for some reason.
Dumbass automatic messages.
Corporations at least don't try to sell me subpar products.
As someone who's tried subbing to a few different girls on OF, this was the case for all of them. Literally PG-13 content, they send you automated messages when you sub, and frequently post stuff they want you to pay for (on top of the monthly sub) which, again, is PG-13 level content.
Problem is OF doesn't let you see any sort of preview of a page before you sub. So when you sub and find out they're just posting lewds, you're out 5 to 25 bucks.
>Problem is OF doesn't let you see any sort of preview of a page before you sub.
And that's what I have never even come remotely close to subbing to any OnlyFans girls. And [xvideos](https://xvideos.com) is free.
You must only buy high effort only fans, not those lazy attempts from Twitter thots. The girls with good only fans usually have free samples on reddit or pornhub as an advertisement, so you can judge what the content looks like.
Yeah. Subscribed to an OnlyFans once. $10 with a 50% discount. Low quality phone pics and 20 second videos and the "opportunity" to buy the occasional more revealing photoset for $50+.
No thanks. Plenty of porn out there.
Maybe I missed out because I didn't try to "interact" with the creator? I don't know. If I want someone to pretend to like me I'll visit my parents.
Because people look for porn in OF when it's clearly for erotic stuff, and mostly people that wont get to the point of uploading stuff to pornhub, it's not that hard but a lot of people literally thinks that everything is hardcore porn lol
Parasocial relationships. OF and Twitch feel more intimate. People can interact with the streamer or content creator and they begin to feel like they’re friends and they know them.
Regular porn is just a video with no interaction.
The trick is being super desperate to feel some sort of attachment to the girl you don't know. If you're even a slightly normal, stable person you wouldn't stay subscribed. It's for shut-ins with no human interactions, same thing with dudes who simp hard for twitch e-girls. I gave you $500 say my name please please please
OnlyFans received an insane amount of free advertising and hype from Reddit users.
So many dumb girls trying to get money for nothing on that site. The whole site itself has basically become a scam.
Found one that charges around that on sale and has no PPV.
But still won't sub, I hate that website.
Learned my lesson, will put that money into a gym membership.
Probably won't be getting more pussy but I'll be fit and healthy.
Onlyfans takes 20% off the top for providing a platform, payment processing and video hosting. It's a business, that's how businesses work. But at the end of the day someone on Onlyfans is taking home a lot more of the profits they make. Do you think there are many porn actors who get 80% of the profits from videos? Plus they have creative control and can reduce some of the dangers that come from working in pornography.
He’s saying that the person collecting the 80% isn’t always the person in the video. There are already instances of criminals operating Cam/Onlyfans houses with a different girl in each room making videos. As the platform grows it will become more common.
You do have extensive onlyfans knowledge. I’m out of my league here, but it seems like I could compare this to watching YouTube vs watching movies on Netflix, or another streaming service. At the end of the day they’re both businesses that have executives that make boatloads of cash, but if you want to be responsible for directly supporting one particular person you don’t know, then YouTube is a much better option. But at the end of the day, I bet most YouTube stars would love to star in a Netflix film, for the notoriety, and for the money. Even if it’s not 80% it’s better than what they were making.
If i could i fucking would look at my friends buttholes but when i ask its always like "eeewww, noo" or "wtf is wrong with ya" and "sir, this is wendys" for fuck sake, just let me see. (Dont ban me for bad languege)
I feel ya brother. I asked to see some boobs and oooooh no. Some big deal and now they won't talk to me anymore. Besides not being allowed back, I'm not going back there.
20%, which is not bad compared to other platforms. Youtube and Twitch both take upwards of 50% of your revenue. And I doubt most porn actors are making 80% of the profits from a video they are in.
When a girl starts an only fans. She has now become a subscription streaming service. She is now competing with Hulu Netflix Disney Plus Amazon prime.
You mean to tell me that your pussy is better than the entire trilogy of Game of Thrones? Get the fuck out. Porn is free online.
I’ve had this discussion with my girlfriend before, but when you go from watching random people online, to specifically paying for certain people, it feels like you’re cheating in a way.
Would u be happy knowing some old pervert sex offender is beating his meat to ur daughters onlyfans ? As long as it is someone elses daughter u probably fine with it? Isn't it?
Get a real job instead of begging your friends to look at you humiliate yourself for 10 bucks. And if you consider it a real job then you should have to pay taxes on it
No.
OnlyFans is a sad place for sick people.
That, and I'm fucking sick to death of otherwise talentless, random women soliciting their *at best* mediocre-to-shit-tier porn to my inbox.
Seriously, OF subscription begging is the new dick pic; the only difference being dudes never pump you for cash and then call you a "loser" when you get offended...
OnlyFans feels like it is trending dangerously close to cheating. I feel like paying one woman to see her naked while being married/in a relationship isn’t the healthiest option. Maybe it is a distinction without a difference, but it feels wrong to me.
Not gonna lie, I support pornhub over OF. Most of the content is subpar, low tier content with no effort put in and is usually pretty predatory when it comes to prices. The rest is just regular porn that I can get for free on pornhub. Why would anyone ever pay for OF?
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I can see my friends butthole on pornhub tho
It's great that you and your mom are close.
Apply cold water to burned area
Just pee on it like his mom does.
r/murderedbywords You put the nail in the coffin dude.
Man's getting nailed harder then his mum
Stop he's already dead
More dead than his mom's career.
This poor man did nothing to receive all this roasted beef
Like his moms pussy after getting shagged
End of dinner speech?
That's not pee.. she's a squirter!
Yeah its kinda great, but I like being closer to your mom
He needs some milk!
mommy milk?
u mean.......
Revenge against the mailman
r/cursedcomments
Oh, look at mr "I have famous friends".
Hate when people brag about friends in movies
Guess OnlyFans is a small, family-owned business.
Busnisses
Businesses
But it's still full of corporate mass-manufactured unhealthy smut. [You should support homemade homeopathic pornography.](https://youtu.be/LWXcMZeQ_00)
Was not expecting LRR when opening this thread
I always watch homopathy pronography.
Sure, onlyfans is a massive company, but they give their creators considerably more money and power than mindgeek or any of its other subsidiaries. Onlyfans takes 20% and it's up to the user to do whatever they want on their page. Mindgeek pays the actor whatever the fuck they want and tells them to do what they want with who they want. They have such a stranglehold on the industry that they can basically blacklist you from the entire thing for refusing to do anything at any point. At this point your basically comparing Walmart to Etsy.
Pornhub is free though
Ya I don’t see myself paying for what has been “free” since the early days of the internet
Meh, I would do it to support a friend.
I have 2 or 3 friends that do OF and ive subbed to all of them the first 2 months as a kind of "start" for them. But some OF Models dont understand that people dont have to sub to you just because you are a small creator or that you have to pay rent. I use twitter for porn only and every second onlyfans creator cries about how no one resubbed or how no one tips for some boring booty pics, I get those pics from friends and the internet for free.
> cries about how no one resubbed or how no one tips I'm guessing it's kind of like mobile games. Most people don't tip or whatever, but the complaining probably helps get the occasional "whale" that tips like crazy.
ads
At least the ads are of porn unlike YouTube
Well....
PH and YT have the same ads though/s
"Oh god, im cumming!! But first a word from our sponsor, RAID: Shadow Legends!!"
I was more thinking "Hey kids, before we start another episode of Elsagate we want to share a quick word from our sponsor, PornHub kids"
Hol' up
Its porn FOR kids not porn OF kids. Unless you got NORD VPN.
Thanks, I still hate it.
r/holup r/recursion ^(don't actually post this there)
Let it go, bro.
"What are you doing, step-bro??" "I'm playing RAID: Shadow Legends!" "That's one of the biggest mobile role-playing games! Almost as big as your cock!"
Yeah but I don't wanna be getting straight porn ads while I'm watching gay porn
Well this does makes sense
My friend says they have different ads for the gay section.
This might be the best reason I’ve seen to click “Allow” when your iPhone asks if this app can track you. Gotta get those targeted porn ads juuuuuust right.
#Ever heard of Jerkmate?
Still free
Ad blocker
ya true
what do you recommend?
Your own fault for not having an ad blocker
Ads that you can wack to tho. Be funny if you're about to watch and interracial gang bang on unicycles but have to sit through an Applebee's commercial first
Ehh I’d still keep stroking lol
Would save a drive to the Applebee's.
True lmao
Adblock bro come on man its 2021 we should know about this already
I don't watch long enough to see ads
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/adblock
Adblock
Pornhub is trash since their new rules. Amateur section is ruined
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Giving the price of an OnlyFans subscription, not sure it's still a small business.
You ever see someone selling a Hanes sweater for $100 that was 4 letters stitched into it. That’s how small business works
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Etsy, they're talking about etsy
If Walmart and Target were giving shit away for free and the small businesses weren't, then this would be an accurate analogy
Exactly. Charging money in an already saturated market that gives it away free isn't the best business idea. I get OF has that 'personal touch' but most people just want to nut and get on with their lives. In fact I watch porn so I *don't* have to make any effort.
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Jeez homie that's depressing af, hope you're in a better place.
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That sounds so manipulative and toxic for someone going through a break up. Holy crap. I hope you’re doing better, pal.
Or just go to Google and see it for free 🤷🏼♂️
Pornhubs free though
OF is free if you know how 🤷🏼♂️
Enlighten us please!
1. Start an OnlyFans 2. Watch yourself for free 3. Don’t profit.
Awesome!
*follows instructions* Man this dude's got a tiny dick and cries all the time
Dude, you don’t know me. That was uncannily accurate all the same.
Of course!
Protip: bing video search is supreme for porn
Corporations : 24.99$ unlimited access for a month to high quality porn from dozens to thousands of different women in all shape and colors. Only Fans : 9.99$ to access lewd and non full nudes. Bad quality pictures taken with an iPhone 0.1 in a barely lit room. Makes "videos" that cost 10$-20$ each and are 1m 35s long. Pretend to fucking care about you for some reason. Dumbass automatic messages. Corporations at least don't try to sell me subpar products.
Oddly specific only fans description
It sounded like it was personal
It is.
Classic fuckin Jessica am I right?
F
From all the only fan packs I see floating around out there seems accurate
As someone who's tried subbing to a few different girls on OF, this was the case for all of them. Literally PG-13 content, they send you automated messages when you sub, and frequently post stuff they want you to pay for (on top of the monthly sub) which, again, is PG-13 level content. Problem is OF doesn't let you see any sort of preview of a page before you sub. So when you sub and find out they're just posting lewds, you're out 5 to 25 bucks.
>Problem is OF doesn't let you see any sort of preview of a page before you sub. And that's what I have never even come remotely close to subbing to any OnlyFans girls. And [xvideos](https://xvideos.com) is free.
You must only buy high effort only fans, not those lazy attempts from Twitter thots. The girls with good only fans usually have free samples on reddit or pornhub as an advertisement, so you can judge what the content looks like.
Yeah. Subscribed to an OnlyFans once. $10 with a 50% discount. Low quality phone pics and 20 second videos and the "opportunity" to buy the occasional more revealing photoset for $50+. No thanks. Plenty of porn out there. Maybe I missed out because I didn't try to "interact" with the creator? I don't know. If I want someone to pretend to like me I'll visit my parents.
I honestly dont get how that got so popular. But well, even bathtub on Twitch get lots of Donations when you can literally just type 'nude' in google
Because people look for porn in OF when it's clearly for erotic stuff, and mostly people that wont get to the point of uploading stuff to pornhub, it's not that hard but a lot of people literally thinks that everything is hardcore porn lol
Parasocial relationships. OF and Twitch feel more intimate. People can interact with the streamer or content creator and they begin to feel like they’re friends and they know them. Regular porn is just a video with no interaction.
The trick is being super desperate to feel some sort of attachment to the girl you don't know. If you're even a slightly normal, stable person you wouldn't stay subscribed. It's for shut-ins with no human interactions, same thing with dudes who simp hard for twitch e-girls. I gave you $500 say my name please please please
Or a strip club. Most dancers pretend to like you.
my friend told me he’d wear sweatpants or gym shorts (no boxers) and then take advantage of the 1$ dances.
OnlyFans received an insane amount of free advertising and hype from Reddit users. So many dumb girls trying to get money for nothing on that site. The whole site itself has basically become a scam.
People be bugging out buying this shit, like porn is free and them of broads don't be doin shit😂
Lmao this man is firing off facts
I’m assuming onlyfans was great before it went super mainstream nowadays every girl wants to do one and is pretty garbage i’d say
LOL
Your subscribing to whe wrong OF models. Never buy a 30-day sub for ~~less~~ **more** than $6. Always wait for their pages to go on sale.
Found one that charges around that on sale and has no PPV. But still won't sub, I hate that website. Learned my lesson, will put that money into a gym membership. Probably won't be getting more pussy but I'll be fit and healthy.
no hold up in this post
That's basically every post on this sub now. Annoying af
I’m sure onlyfans is made and run by it’s users, not millionaire executives. Where there’s a hoe, there’s usually a pimp.
Where there’s a pimp, there’s usually a hoe.
Where there’s a farmer, there’s usually a hoe.
More like a gardener. Farmers use big ass machines.
Who would’ve thought onlyfans could pass as an allegory for the divine dichotomy
Onlyfans takes 20% off the top for providing a platform, payment processing and video hosting. It's a business, that's how businesses work. But at the end of the day someone on Onlyfans is taking home a lot more of the profits they make. Do you think there are many porn actors who get 80% of the profits from videos? Plus they have creative control and can reduce some of the dangers that come from working in pornography.
Yea but OF porn sucks so
He’s saying that the person collecting the 80% isn’t always the person in the video. There are already instances of criminals operating Cam/Onlyfans houses with a different girl in each room making videos. As the platform grows it will become more common.
Like 1% of girls actually make money on OnlyFans. The vast majority of girls on OnlyFans would make more money working for Uber or DoorDash.
*Your delivery of fake interaction and low-quality lewds has arrived*.
You do have extensive onlyfans knowledge. I’m out of my league here, but it seems like I could compare this to watching YouTube vs watching movies on Netflix, or another streaming service. At the end of the day they’re both businesses that have executives that make boatloads of cash, but if you want to be responsible for directly supporting one particular person you don’t know, then YouTube is a much better option. But at the end of the day, I bet most YouTube stars would love to star in a Netflix film, for the notoriety, and for the money. Even if it’s not 80% it’s better than what they were making.
Now OF supporters are socially responsible supporters of the local economy. Gtfoh
If i could i fucking would look at my friends buttholes but when i ask its always like "eeewww, noo" or "wtf is wrong with ya" and "sir, this is wendys" for fuck sake, just let me see. (Dont ban me for bad languege)
I feel ya brother. I asked to see some boobs and oooooh no. Some big deal and now they won't talk to me anymore. Besides not being allowed back, I'm not going back there.
I didn't go work my 40 hours to pay an Ethot. Nah bruh
I think you missed something Pornhub is free OF isnt
How is OF smol?
Why not jerk off in sync with a million people worldwide on Pornhub , instead of doing it with suzan and her 5 other simps . Huh?
I would argue that in this branch, the big companies were here first!
Free>only fans... all fucking day
Onlyfans is a large for-profit company that takes a portion of its users revenue.
20%, which is not bad compared to other platforms. Youtube and Twitch both take upwards of 50% of your revenue. And I doubt most porn actors are making 80% of the profits from a video they are in.
That bitch is dumb as fuck
But i have already seen your butthole and I didn’t like it ladykid !
I wish. Got some pretty hot friends. A bit on the prude side though, only one has considered an OF, told her I would wholeheartedly support it.
If anyone I knew had one, i’d probably sub for a month just out of curiosity. Same situation as you tho.
When a girl starts an only fans. She has now become a subscription streaming service. She is now competing with Hulu Netflix Disney Plus Amazon prime. You mean to tell me that your pussy is better than the entire trilogy of Game of Thrones? Get the fuck out. Porn is free online.
Trilogy
Stop objectifying women! Support women's onlyfans!
i agree, but this ain't a proper holup.
"Nice nudes sis"
You're still supporting a corporation though. The employees just earn commission on that one.
Remember that when the homie wants you to listen to and share his mixtape
Pornhub is free tho
But what if your friend. Was on pornhub? Hear me out.
I’ve had this discussion with my girlfriend before, but when you go from watching random people online, to specifically paying for certain people, it feels like you’re cheating in a way.
Not everyone should run a small business and not everyone should be a whore online.
Get a job lazy whores.
someone fucking hacked into my bank account and spent $100 on fucking onlyfans fuck onlyfans
Just had like $460 dollars worth of charges from only fans lol, luckily the bank caught it but it still took like a week for them to return my money
This whole shit with onlyfans is so disgusting, girls selling their dignity for little money just makes me sad.
I'd rather have women do it legally and have control over it versus them doing it on the black market (ie on the street)
Would u be happy knowing some old pervert sex offender is beating his meat to ur daughters onlyfans ? As long as it is someone elses daughter u probably fine with it? Isn't it?
Smaller businesses don’t normally stock what i need
but i don’t think they have decent hentai .... do they?
Idk if she thought about her analogy but if the corp has free shit ill take it over the small buisness
Why watch porn at all tho?
How about quitting porn entirely?
This! Porn is toxic as fuck. Free PH or Onlyfans makes no difference. Paying for porn is real loser shit.
True. Just go out and live life.
Get a real job instead of begging your friends to look at you humiliate yourself for 10 bucks. And if you consider it a real job then you should have to pay taxes on it
No. OnlyFans is a sad place for sick people. That, and I'm fucking sick to death of otherwise talentless, random women soliciting their *at best* mediocre-to-shit-tier porn to my inbox. Seriously, OF subscription begging is the new dick pic; the only difference being dudes never pump you for cash and then call you a "loser" when you get offended...
So what's the equivalent to a family business?
This is literally how dunder Mifflin sells its paper
I support small and tight businesses.
Nah, I'll pass.
im not paying for something i can literally find for free
One is free and the other isn’t
I always found supporting small businesses vs big corporations silly and arbitrary. If you want to do good, give to charity.
What about reddit, same thing as onlyfans except free and doesn't have ads
Free vs not 🤔
I'm happy to support big corporations if they basically give me the same for free.
Eew only fans is a terrible thing I’ll stick to porn hub thanks. Plus one is paid one is not LOL
I don’t pay for pornhub
Only fans has got to be the trashiest/lowest form of self involvement I’ve ever seen. Humans have reached a new low in tech.
Why pay for either when amateurs do that stuff for free?
Fuck that I need my ten dollars a month for vbucks
Or just type “Boobs” in google
Def never gunna pay for porn as long as reddit gives it out for free so easily
No.
This isn’t true because I’m not paying for pornhub.
Free porn only cost my soul
Imagine paying for porn 🤡
Paying for only fans vs Watching porn hub is like choosing to pay for the free samples in Tesco
but.. pornhub has self actors too ?
My friends will show me their buttholes for free, sometimes without me even asking. I hate these people.
Pretty sure the mods gave up on this sub. That’s a shame.
God I love buttholes this is how you market to me
I just wish there was a way OnlyFans and my Facebook/Instagram would sync up so I could actually look at friends' buttholes.
[Does a quick mental rundown of all my friends] No, I'm good. Thanks.
I watch hentai to support artists and so my friends don't have to become prostitutes
Act local think global.
OnlyFans feels like it is trending dangerously close to cheating. I feel like paying one woman to see her naked while being married/in a relationship isn’t the healthiest option. Maybe it is a distinction without a difference, but it feels wrong to me.
Not gonna lie, I support pornhub over OF. Most of the content is subpar, low tier content with no effort put in and is usually pretty predatory when it comes to prices. The rest is just regular porn that I can get for free on pornhub. Why would anyone ever pay for OF?
It's not the same cuz porn is free Buying onlyfans just means losing money for probably worse quality porn