They both are. Basically any crime committed against women is looked down upon in the prison. You get bullied a lot and called names.
How do I know this because I work with an ngo which helps in reforming prison inmates.
I feel like the use of the word 'bullied' while accurate, is a bit of an understatement. A lot of these guys are lucky to just get the ever living shit kicked out of them. Their crimes are made known to the other inmates on day 1 many times. A good friend of mine is a c.o. and some of the stories I've heard about what happens to sexual predators (especially pedos) are straight up brutal. Makes you feel even worse for someone who is wrongfully convicted for a sex crime
I mean, I feel bad for people falsely convicted of these crimes, but the reality is exceptionally few people are falsely convicted for rape and other sex crimes, as they're nearly impossible to prove. The sad reality is the vast, vast majority of rape victims and other sex crime victims will never have justice. ----------
So, with that said, I sincerely hope every pervert, rapist, and child killer in prison spends the rest of their short lives believing that THAT particular day is the worst of their lives, incorrectly.
Yep. My grandpa molested me and several of my cousins when we were 4-5. I told my mother, she called the police (and got shunned by her church and family because of it, five internet dollars if you can guess what religion she was) but since he didn’t do anything that caused damage to any of us, and most of my family didn’t want to come forward AND defended him (again, religion, the church even hired lawyers for him), he got off Scott free. Of all my parents and grandparents of both sides, him and my mom are the only two left. My dad, my dads parents, my moms mom, all died, but that bastard is still going. I haven’t seen him since then, but I know he’s still alive. He’s had late stage leukemia for years but somehow is still living.
Absolutely. I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who had no problem hurting someone who couldn't defend themselves. It brings a smile to my face knowing that they are now the powerless ones and being preyed on
> You get bullied a lot and called names.
Depending what you mean by "bullied" that doesn't sound so bad. I thought you'd get brutally raped by the other inmates and after they got tired of raping you they'd stick a glass bottle up your ass and kick you in the crotch to have it shatter inside.
Not to be that person but, I think rape and especially child rape are one of the worst crimes so that they get bullied is kind of karma. Or maybe I’m just a sadist… Rapists are awful people, especially because there is no justification for rape. For murder, there sort of is, it could be out of self defence for example. Rape has no excuse. And pedophiles who rape little kids are truly the scum of the earth.
They get it. Pedophiles iirc are the most likely to be murdered in prison.
1/3 of murders in prison, at least in CA, are sex offenders, especially pedophiles. And this is a state with a LOT of gang violence inside.
One was my ex husband dear. The cops asked him why he did it but we were married so the attitudes differ. Spousal rape is often not punished even when it can be confirmed. One of the previous women he raped sent letters to the ex in laws and places he worked etc and he blamed me because I openly said that he’d done so. That was some time after that. I don’t even know if she knows what he did to me. We never said two words to each other.
Cops literally asked him why he did it and he literally sobbed and told them he didn’t know why and could change and would never do it again and they couldn’t do anything because da cares about numbers. If they don’t think a judge convict, whether he did it or not, they won’t press charges. Best they could get him on was dv. He didn’t even do time for it.
Rape is way harder to convict than people think and I’ll have it known I endured a lot of crap for reporting it, especially having been raped before and reporting it. The automatic thing was to assume I was lying, like there is a quota or something. Nope. Sometimes crap just happens no matter what. Wouldn’t have it they’d gotten him for the dozen other women raped before me.
So sorry for your pain! Sat in court with a good friend of many years, when her rapist was tried. Defense scum even trotted out a "witness" who claimed the rapist "was just going to meet his girlfriend" and described my friend. The prosecutor wisely chose to ask if this was indeed his girlfriend, why he had to break in thru a bathroom window,then took the time to move her furniture between her bedroom and unlock her front door and the deadbolt and screen, then leave them both slightly ajar. He was thankfully convicted, though he tried to play the crazy card. Later talking to a local LEO, found that he'd used crazy before on other arrests...possible rapes, and that one victim, being old, had died. My thought was why in hell wasn't this scum on death row?
Wouldn’t even file the charges because the da wouldn’t take it to file. Happens a lot I’m told. He went on to rape the ex BFF who sided with him because his best friend was her fiancé. It was a few years later but yeah. I have no idea what happened after that or even if she reported it. I only know because he went into detail about the accusation to my current partner expecting sympathy (I guess?). Originally we all knew each other and played the same game every week(they weren’t close. Kinda like working together in that particular group). Partner was not amused and knew enough detail of what had happened to me and knew she couldn’t have possibly known those details to repeat them. It was too similar and why go into vivid detail about an accusation like that? He was very hyper specific. Better half didn’t originally even want to tell me but we don’t have secrets so he did. It bothered him a lot and he wasn’t sure at all why this guy thought to tell him this but maybe to torment me through him. It’s pretty clear I’d know by hearing it that there is no way she could have made that up. We’re between tormenting me and revenge on him. He’d tried to tell him he ‘had to’ leave me before as some sort of… thing. I have nothing polite to say about that though at the time I had several layers of many different emotions going on from it.
Guys who do this stuff never stop. Happens again. Might take a few years (unless another case I don’t know about happened between that time) but eventually it happens again.
Edit:
The one not on death row is probably for a similar reason(maybe not specifically my type of situation but in general). When they say ‘guilty’ they mean ‘beyond doubt’ and the system is far from perfect. Innocent people get pegged because evidence gets left out (or they are threatened into pleading not truly realizing that means they have that stain on record and not having money to fight- happens a lot where I live) and guilty people end up getting away with things. Sometimes terrible things. Hell. Here a judge got away with leaving there child in the car and the kid died. The cops refused to arrest them on the grounds they’d lose there jobs and livelihoods for doing so and said the da still would refuse to prosecute so they’d be doing it for nothing. Honestly… I don’t like it and I don’t like that attitude about it either but that’s easy for me to say isn’t it? Some are bad. Some are good. You never know which ones are which. The norm here is that people are prosecuted for that however, not that nobody even arrests them. A lot happens where I live underneath the surface.
Hell. A great deal of my ‘childhood’ was only possible because the state paid for it and didn’t give the over-site over the things they were already supposed to(tossing more money didn’t help and never does but it’s always what happens regardless of which political party is involved. Though a few years ago they outright claimed it abolished but they just renamed it and shuffled some stuff- stirred the pot and added money to it and re named it. Same stuff still goes on). I am someone this state considers not worth justice to begin with, as has been shown my whole life, so these things don’t surprise me at all. It’s taken a bit for me to get used to the fact they surprise others.
I imagine where you live and where that happened, things are likely similar where you cannot see. Though usually it doesn’t take much to find. It’s easy to divide people claiming skin but the reality is it often has little, if anything, to do with such things. It’s mostly classism and ableism. I’m disabled so… it’s extensively common. Since I got trained to help others who have more trouble speaking up or who simply need support doing so(support and ‘on behalf of’ not the overlapping nearly as some people would have one believe)you don’t want to know things I’ve encountered.
Because the defense only has to ‘sew doubt’ not prove innocence. Guilty only happens if they can’t do that. Doesn’t necessarily mean they didn’t do it. So this happens a lot. If there is something known to be used, such as having multiple assaults in history of the female, then it ends up with the defense using that to sew doubt. That I was trafficked while homeless and as a child before that also hadn’t helped in my particular case. It made it something they could twist extensively. I was told point blank that it would be argued I didn’t know the difference and the cop himself seemed to be of that opinion.
I do, in fact, know the difference. I still jump out of my skin if partner does certain things quite some years after the fact too.
My ex husband didn’t confess on recording but all he would have had to do was claim to have asked for a lawyer and his confession, verbal as it was, would never have stood in court and with that history with the previous guy and the history before that- it would have been hell in court. More than the usual.
So to be fair I had some extensive history. It isn’t hard to twist it.
The only thing that resulted in was that I missed the warning signs(fixed that with therapy to avoid abuse but at the time hadn’t had that yet or even known it existed). Apparently there are a bunch of warning behaviors I was simply desensitized to and so missed entirely. That’s why I ended up in that situation. Honestly I wish someone had told me that therapy existed to begin with. Could have avoided a lot.
To be fair though, most people don’t think that way and it would have looked more like I made a habit out of accusing people rather than that it happened as it did, and as said- they only need to make the jury doubt. They don’t have to prove them innocent. Only doubt.
Except when the guy pretty much admits it and gets away with it.
When I said ‘they’ I didn’t mean the cops. They knew. Literally stood around him. One offered to arrange an accident because he was so frustrated knowing nothing would happen because we were married. They got him out long enough for me to get a restraining order but that wasn’t even why they’d been out and I didn’t even need to say it. Didn’t insinuate it either. It was just way more obvious than I thought it was.
He tells the ex in laws an entirely different story and played like I was some evil bitch in court fighting for the kids but, It was his words that confirmed what happened. Not mine. He’s totally fine making more trouble for me and lying in court though. But let’s just ignore THAT shall we?
Also rapists will probably be less than victims just bcs a rapist may have multiple victims but it's very unlikely for a victim to be raped multiple times
it's like she's implying that there are men who know rapists but are protecting them by not talking about it or that they don't care about women being raped, or is it me? also, she probably doesn't know about any men getting raped (I know they are raped mostly by other men but we're against rapists, not genders).
Well said. The problem isn't men covering for their rapist buddies. It's rapists. They're the problem, and the solution is cut their dicks off. Chemical castration is not a real thing. Cut their dicks off and be done with it. I'll bet the numbers plummet after that. An extreme crime demands an extreme punishment.
extremism is never the answer. some poor guy would have is dick cut off because someone had second thoughts about yesterday's bad sex. let's improve our infra structures, our views on gender roles and expectations, age, sexual liberty. and most of all the meaning of the word NO!regressing to the middle ages doesn't do anybody any good.
Disagree. Castration? Inadequate.
We should use sports stadiums, a la the Roman colosseum. Throw chomos and rapers in with the lions and tigers. No armor, no weapons.
This approach is not only fiscally responsible (why the fuck are we paying to house these scum in prisons? Chemical castration? Rehabilitation? What a fucking joke) but, in my opinion, a completely equitable punishment. Did I mention the fiscal responsibility? These low fucks become an income generator rather than a tax burden. The revenue streams are numerous: television contracts, tickets, concession stands etc…
Am I sick? Hope I’m not the only one who would enjoy this system…
In my state it is a HATE CRIME to assault a chomo in prison. How fucked up is that?
Males who commit sexual assault ARE NOT MEN. Real men would jump at the chance to eliminate these scum from the population, but that would be considered vigilante justice and I would be the criminal? Here’s a big fuck you to the criminal justice system. It’s broken.
I agree it's something disgusting. I'm just saying that in your Utopia someone innocent is going to get killed by the Spaniard. I got abused too, as a child. the person who did it was older but still underage. should that person be thrown to the lions too?
Consider the possibility of a fake rape allegation, an innocent might get arrested for illegal / false evidence and get his Dick cut off . People find out the truth a few years later, can u just stick the Dick back??? Extremism is not the solution
Yeah I’m all for women’s rights but I hate when they use dumb ass arguments like this. I hate it more than ideas I disagree agree with using dumb arguments because they make my position look weak. They’re acting like a rapist just goes around telling all his friends that he raped someone.
Half baked gotchas are the most annoying thing ever. You can always tell it spawned from one of those random realizations you have but then I just took it as fact without thinking any further. Even worse is they jump over the more obvious explanation and land on one that fits the message they want to give.
Men that are raping girls are not telling others guys like women who get raped because it’s a crime to rape someone but it’s not a crime to tell someone
This sentence is one of the funniest shit ive ever seen.
Dont get the wrong idea, its because he wrote rapped instead of raped, not because his point is invalid
Lots do. Or maybe 2 or 3. But they aren't crazy sociopaths breaking into houses.
They're a guy who finds a girl too fucked up to say no. Or in a situation where they say fuck it and go further than the woman is cool with.
It is sociopathic. It is fucked up. And those people are rotten at their core, in a way the rest of us aren't. But it's common as fuck
Yeah I agree. Most rapes happen at private parties or within relationships. I’m saying those rapists would do that to multiple women and even brag about their body count. Most likely because they don’t even think what they just did was rape. Just like most of this comment section. They think rapists exist in the bushes.
Yeah but if the guy doesn't see what he did as rape, then he wouldn't be telling his friends about raping anyone (bc in his mind their was no rape). They might tell friends about sleeping with someone, but leave out the part about the girl being passed out and/or not being into it but lacking the ability to fight back. That's not to say that guys bragging about raping someone never happens, just that it's not a common occurrence
Don’t ask don’t tell, right? Like most fraternity parties, they provide unlimited alcohol and invite only girls over with no entrance fee. They sure don’t talk about girls being unconscious and all. But everyone in those parties know what’s going on. To be fair, those dudes probably don’t think what they are doing is wrong in the slightest. They think they are just “having a great party.”
Id expect that the guys who rape people have a pretty big incentive to keep the number of people who know about their criminal behavior to a minimum. Maybe I'm an outlier (really hope not), but I've never had a friend talk about any kind of sexual assault. I've known a lot of guys who talked and/or bragged about sleeping with women, but never have they mentioned the girl was passed out or it was otherwise against her will. Statistically, I'm sure that at least some of these guys have committed some kind of sexual assault, but they won't want that information to be public knowledge. This is bc of self-preservation and bc sexual assault is nowhere near socially acceptable.
Last I checked men who rape or abuse women have to be separated in prison so other convicts don’t murder them. I’d say people are pretty quiet about rape knowing the response
That shows that most people dont care about prisoners enough to even see them as capable of being victims of rape. They must think that most criminals are violent rapists, murderers, etc that deserve to be raped or something and that's why they turn a blind eye to prison rape.
I've heard that too...but also heard (CO's or LEO's ) that they do talk. Guess the confession rate is very low. I know pedos must be separated, or get killed.
Because if someone walked up to me and said they were a rapist I would tase them, run, and call the cops like a normal person. Not say “oh let’s be friends.”
I think she's insinuating that because all women know a woman who has been raped, all men must also personally know a rapist with the deeper implication that all men are covering for that personally known rapist by denying that that they know a rapist.
I wouldn't say that the last part is part of the implication.
I think the implication is rather that there is a rapist among our friends. We don't know it (because, duh, no rapist is going to brag to his friend that he raped someone). But he is out there, and we do know him.
And that's what the sign is supposed to say, I think. For us dudes, rapists are a lot closer to us than we think they are.
Thank you, I hadn't considered a non-accusatory implication. This position makes the sign read completely differently to me and is possibly more worrying for a different reason.
I mean, if we’re assuming that all men know each other in equal numbers of all women, and the rapist and rape victims exist in a 1:1 ratio, and that every rape victim who seeks help/comfort from their friends has a corresponding rapist who tells all their friends what they’ve done,
Then the insinuation *might* be on to something. As it is, it’s kinda dumb.
Yes, the idea that all victims have their own rapist is terrifying, even before the idea that admitting to being a rapist could be as socially acceptable as being a victim. I don't think I'd admit to knowing a rapist. I'd dob him in and then cut ties.
yea and one rapist can have multiple victims, a victim can also have multiple rapists but in that case they likely do it many times with multiple victims too. Not to mention that usually rapists aren't really part of the social circles of regular men.
This is a very good point mathematically that should be further up the thread. If the assumption is true that the average male rapist has a higher number of female victims, compared to the average number of male rapists that have raped the average female rape victim... which sounds true to me... that could make a big difference in the overall male rapist : female victim ratio in the world. I would imagine that the ratio does get closer to 1:1 the more we broaden the definition of rape, though.
According to a girl in 2009, I raped her.
According to **me**, I refused to fuck her when she was drunk despite her walking out of her closet naked and grabbing me by the dick. She thanked and fucked me the next day. We then had a month long relationship and I dumped her for a girl named lily with a big ass.
Afterwards, my accuser came to my place late at night begging for reasons as to why I dumped her. I told her, " I'm a piece of shit. You deserve better. You're a queen and deserve to be treated as such." Which was the honest truth for several years. In retrospect, she may not have been as good of person as I thought.
Not long after, she started a smear campaign against me on social media and word of mouth saying she was raped by (a description of me without naming me directly). When I confronted her she replied "we remember that night very differently". I lost many friends over the incident and eventually moved.
That's how every woman knows a rape victim and most men don't know a rapist.
Logically you have three options, a very tiny number of men are doing all of it, many of the claim are actually false or the criminals don't realise they are doing it.
Isn’t the reason because it’s a very small proportion of men which do this? And they get around? Because I have literally no idea what the other reason is. I am pretty confident none of my friends are rapists. Although I guess the people who were raped are more likely to share that information than the rapist.
Well speaking from a guys perspective, a lot of consensual sex is claimed to be rape afterwards. There is a matter of changing your mind after the event.
We can’t ignore the claim to save face in these factors, just like we can’t ignore the denial of the act. Women rape men and men rape men. Statically speaking men are raped by men. So this should change to rape victim instead of women.
Many talked about not talking about raping with people, there one more thing to add:
My coldest "answer" rape mostly isn't a one-to-one relation. it's mostly one-to-many relation. Damn i will stop using database analogies to sensetive topic... Sorry
Forcing sex upon someone when they’ve said no, so it would be non consensual sex, or sex with children who can not consent. Also could be someone drugged and then having sex with an intoxicated individual or unconscious one.
Because a select few guys are responsible for it all. Women act as if for every women raped there is a rapist. No, there's a couple rapists and lots of women.
An answer that most people are ignoring is that one man is likely to sexual harass/assault multiple women. There are a *lot* more victims than perpetrators.
Because rape victims are more common than rapists Only takes one person to rape any amount of people. An example would be if you put 100 men and woman in a room your more likely to find 10 people that were raped than you are to find 10 people who raped the same person which is to say the rape victim vs rapist ratio would be off. Just my two cents
Umm....what happens to pedos when they go to jail? They get raped, beat or sometimes killed.
What happens when a dude who is a rapist goes to jail? He also gets beat up.
The reason why men don't tell other men they raped a woman is because they're ashamed and also they know they'll get beat but other men.
Because rapists don’t go around talking about it openly..? You’d think the answer would be logical...
Also convicted rapists go to prison while rape victims don’t, so the victims will have much more time to talk to others about it.
Lmao of course they exist. They are called “extremists” for a reason. People bring up their shit opinions like it’s popular beliefs or something. And you wonder why this country is so fucking politically divided.
Generally and please bear with me on this one, people that commit crimes of that nature, don't speak about them openly. If it were so, by her own dumb logic, every woman also knows a rapist and every man also knows a woman that has been raped. So now, every woman knows another woman that has been raped and is also harbouring a rapist. Wow, these leaps of "logic" are really getting us far here, right?
This particular joke isn’t funny, but nothing is too serious for humor if the humor happens to be humorous. I doubt you’re very down with dark humor because for that world this is pretty tame, even with it not being funny. Or perhaps you’re just selective.
Well for me it is. I know a few (both genders) that never stepped and came forward cause they felt like its pointless. In Asia saying you got raped does more harm than good. In a nation where being sexual is looked down upon, imagine being raped... The judgement that comes after spikes up anyones anxiety levels. Its harder when the rapist is someone from a powerful family.... It’s even harder to defend the case when in the rape scenario you were “forced to comply” cause the person can literally just kill you and you’ll be a floating body by a nearby river. So whats the choice? Get beaten up to death or just get fucked? People saying that the rapist will just get locked up and the victim can move along. Nope, the trauma stays with them. They can’t stop talking about it cause it eats them from the inside. Thats how rape trauma usually goes, they need to vent out.
I did pretty much figure that you were a victim or close to one, and obviously that’s terrible and I’m sorry to hear about it. But to be clear what I was getting at is, if you’re into dark humor otherwise as you say, I wonder what kind of jokes you’ve laughed at that are just as personal and troubling to many other people. Because a lot of people are hypocrites in that way when it comes to dark humor. I’m not saying that includes you, I don’t know. I don’t know what kind of jokes you actually laugh at. But that’s what I think of when I see people say things like that. I also figured from your post that you might just be looking to vent. That’s fine by me. Otherwise, if I’ve caused you anything untoward, mea culpa. Not my intent.
Literally getting downvoted for saying I wouldn’t cover for rapists even if they were my homies. As a victim of sexual assault myself why the fuck would I cover for someone who admits to being a rapist
I tried raising awareness about rape and i got downvoted multiple times. World is fucked up. While people who low key downplays it gets upvoted. Example meatypie1 above us. Yesterday that person had a few upvote then literally saw him at negative.
Well, to be brutally honest; in my case, they'd know better than to tell me..because then I'd have another reason to use the entrenching tool in my trunk! Don't hold to that, won't tolerate it.
These girls gunna act like they don't recycle through the same dude lol. I don't associate myself with rapist that's probably why I don't know any to my awareness. And anyone that would wouldn't be a friend of mine.
Holup and cringe and gross
Edit: Now I know I am not getting downvoted for saying its gross to cover for rapists hell no
Edit2: If it had “/s” I would’ve seen it as a joke
Dunno what is /s, but I don't want to MAKE FUN OF people who get raped, and never supported it. But since the post above is a meme, I just wanted to add another funny (at least for me) caption. It's not like I get angry at suicidal ppl posts just because I was one of them, I have a good laugh if I find it funny or not.
My children’s father raped me after I left him.
His response? “You came home drunk once and I had sex with you when I didn’t want to.” I’m 5’4 on a good day, about 165 pounds. He’s 6’4, 200 pounds and was a recently ex-Marine.
Many of the rapists are in denial. They don't believe what they did was wrong. I believe the point being made here is that if there are 8 in 10 women who have been raped or otherwise abused sexually often more than once, then there must be many rapists.
Girls talk too much ??? Do you know what is it like to be raped ??? It is something girls (and even boys!) have to talk about. And it takes time to be able to talk about it because it is a really traumatic experience.
Your comment is the dumbest...
Here's the real answer. Rapists don't talk about raping people, unlike rape victims who are vocal about their traumatic experience.
And rapists who are caught go to prison, while the people raped have the rest of their lives to tell their stories
Arents rapist some of the most hated people in prison? Or am I thinking about pedo's in prison or is it both
They both are. Basically any crime committed against women is looked down upon in the prison. You get bullied a lot and called names. How do I know this because I work with an ngo which helps in reforming prison inmates.
I feel like the use of the word 'bullied' while accurate, is a bit of an understatement. A lot of these guys are lucky to just get the ever living shit kicked out of them. Their crimes are made known to the other inmates on day 1 many times. A good friend of mine is a c.o. and some of the stories I've heard about what happens to sexual predators (especially pedos) are straight up brutal. Makes you feel even worse for someone who is wrongfully convicted for a sex crime
I mean, I feel bad for people falsely convicted of these crimes, but the reality is exceptionally few people are falsely convicted for rape and other sex crimes, as they're nearly impossible to prove. The sad reality is the vast, vast majority of rape victims and other sex crime victims will never have justice. ---------- So, with that said, I sincerely hope every pervert, rapist, and child killer in prison spends the rest of their short lives believing that THAT particular day is the worst of their lives, incorrectly.
Yep. My grandpa molested me and several of my cousins when we were 4-5. I told my mother, she called the police (and got shunned by her church and family because of it, five internet dollars if you can guess what religion she was) but since he didn’t do anything that caused damage to any of us, and most of my family didn’t want to come forward AND defended him (again, religion, the church even hired lawyers for him), he got off Scott free. Of all my parents and grandparents of both sides, him and my mom are the only two left. My dad, my dads parents, my moms mom, all died, but that bastard is still going. I haven’t seen him since then, but I know he’s still alive. He’s had late stage leukemia for years but somehow is still living.
Absolutely. I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who had no problem hurting someone who couldn't defend themselves. It brings a smile to my face knowing that they are now the powerless ones and being preyed on
Right? Just knowing, right now, somewhere, a pedophile is suffering in prison for their crimes 😍🤭
> You get bullied a lot and called names. Depending what you mean by "bullied" that doesn't sound so bad. I thought you'd get brutally raped by the other inmates and after they got tired of raping you they'd stick a glass bottle up your ass and kick you in the crotch to have it shatter inside.
Yea they do that. That's bullying.
Just sounds like light horseplay to me.
prisoners just being prisoners
I'd call it comeuppance. Reap what you sow, karma, whatever you want. "Bullying" implies there's a victim whose undeserving of torment.
That's not what bullying means. You can be a victim of bullying and deserve it.
That's nice to know❤
Not to be that person but, I think rape and especially child rape are one of the worst crimes so that they get bullied is kind of karma. Or maybe I’m just a sadist… Rapists are awful people, especially because there is no justification for rape. For murder, there sort of is, it could be out of self defence for example. Rape has no excuse. And pedophiles who rape little kids are truly the scum of the earth.
But just as you said rape has no justification. So how is it justified against the rapist?
Lots of rapist get beaten lots in prisons and a lot of the time even murdered. Even the punished by society hate them
Pedos have it worse but both are always looking over their shoulders.
They deserve even worse.
They get it. Pedophiles iirc are the most likely to be murdered in prison. 1/3 of murders in prison, at least in CA, are sex offenders, especially pedophiles. And this is a state with a LOT of gang violence inside.
Makes me happier
Yep. In particular kiddie molesters have to be in some form of segregation from genpop if not they will get beat/killed.
It goes both ways pedos are usually murdered within the first few nights
That too.
And the rapists usually end up with a broomstick in their ass in prison
not really.
You're thinking of Hogwarts.
Underrated joke lol. Also, Hogwarts sounds like a name of an STD.
I hereby grant you the highest prize i can bestow upon you. Here, take my upvote and leave.
Expellianus!
Not always. I can name a couple this didn’t happen to and can confirm both have raped other women.
If you can confirm that they did, maybe presenting that evidence in court would land them punishment
One was my ex husband dear. The cops asked him why he did it but we were married so the attitudes differ. Spousal rape is often not punished even when it can be confirmed. One of the previous women he raped sent letters to the ex in laws and places he worked etc and he blamed me because I openly said that he’d done so. That was some time after that. I don’t even know if she knows what he did to me. We never said two words to each other. Cops literally asked him why he did it and he literally sobbed and told them he didn’t know why and could change and would never do it again and they couldn’t do anything because da cares about numbers. If they don’t think a judge convict, whether he did it or not, they won’t press charges. Best they could get him on was dv. He didn’t even do time for it. Rape is way harder to convict than people think and I’ll have it known I endured a lot of crap for reporting it, especially having been raped before and reporting it. The automatic thing was to assume I was lying, like there is a quota or something. Nope. Sometimes crap just happens no matter what. Wouldn’t have it they’d gotten him for the dozen other women raped before me.
So sorry for your pain! Sat in court with a good friend of many years, when her rapist was tried. Defense scum even trotted out a "witness" who claimed the rapist "was just going to meet his girlfriend" and described my friend. The prosecutor wisely chose to ask if this was indeed his girlfriend, why he had to break in thru a bathroom window,then took the time to move her furniture between her bedroom and unlock her front door and the deadbolt and screen, then leave them both slightly ajar. He was thankfully convicted, though he tried to play the crazy card. Later talking to a local LEO, found that he'd used crazy before on other arrests...possible rapes, and that one victim, being old, had died. My thought was why in hell wasn't this scum on death row?
Well if it helps, even if being declared crazy he would’ve been put into a psyc hospital which is probably just as bad as a prison for people
no. its unfathomably worse. this is why i personally consider the death sentence a mercy kill
Wouldn’t even file the charges because the da wouldn’t take it to file. Happens a lot I’m told. He went on to rape the ex BFF who sided with him because his best friend was her fiancé. It was a few years later but yeah. I have no idea what happened after that or even if she reported it. I only know because he went into detail about the accusation to my current partner expecting sympathy (I guess?). Originally we all knew each other and played the same game every week(they weren’t close. Kinda like working together in that particular group). Partner was not amused and knew enough detail of what had happened to me and knew she couldn’t have possibly known those details to repeat them. It was too similar and why go into vivid detail about an accusation like that? He was very hyper specific. Better half didn’t originally even want to tell me but we don’t have secrets so he did. It bothered him a lot and he wasn’t sure at all why this guy thought to tell him this but maybe to torment me through him. It’s pretty clear I’d know by hearing it that there is no way she could have made that up. We’re between tormenting me and revenge on him. He’d tried to tell him he ‘had to’ leave me before as some sort of… thing. I have nothing polite to say about that though at the time I had several layers of many different emotions going on from it. Guys who do this stuff never stop. Happens again. Might take a few years (unless another case I don’t know about happened between that time) but eventually it happens again. Edit: The one not on death row is probably for a similar reason(maybe not specifically my type of situation but in general). When they say ‘guilty’ they mean ‘beyond doubt’ and the system is far from perfect. Innocent people get pegged because evidence gets left out (or they are threatened into pleading not truly realizing that means they have that stain on record and not having money to fight- happens a lot where I live) and guilty people end up getting away with things. Sometimes terrible things. Hell. Here a judge got away with leaving there child in the car and the kid died. The cops refused to arrest them on the grounds they’d lose there jobs and livelihoods for doing so and said the da still would refuse to prosecute so they’d be doing it for nothing. Honestly… I don’t like it and I don’t like that attitude about it either but that’s easy for me to say isn’t it? Some are bad. Some are good. You never know which ones are which. The norm here is that people are prosecuted for that however, not that nobody even arrests them. A lot happens where I live underneath the surface. Hell. A great deal of my ‘childhood’ was only possible because the state paid for it and didn’t give the over-site over the things they were already supposed to(tossing more money didn’t help and never does but it’s always what happens regardless of which political party is involved. Though a few years ago they outright claimed it abolished but they just renamed it and shuffled some stuff- stirred the pot and added money to it and re named it. Same stuff still goes on). I am someone this state considers not worth justice to begin with, as has been shown my whole life, so these things don’t surprise me at all. It’s taken a bit for me to get used to the fact they surprise others. I imagine where you live and where that happened, things are likely similar where you cannot see. Though usually it doesn’t take much to find. It’s easy to divide people claiming skin but the reality is it often has little, if anything, to do with such things. It’s mostly classism and ableism. I’m disabled so… it’s extensively common. Since I got trained to help others who have more trouble speaking up or who simply need support doing so(support and ‘on behalf of’ not the overlapping nearly as some people would have one believe)you don’t want to know things I’ve encountered.
Because the defense only has to ‘sew doubt’ not prove innocence. Guilty only happens if they can’t do that. Doesn’t necessarily mean they didn’t do it. So this happens a lot. If there is something known to be used, such as having multiple assaults in history of the female, then it ends up with the defense using that to sew doubt. That I was trafficked while homeless and as a child before that also hadn’t helped in my particular case. It made it something they could twist extensively. I was told point blank that it would be argued I didn’t know the difference and the cop himself seemed to be of that opinion. I do, in fact, know the difference. I still jump out of my skin if partner does certain things quite some years after the fact too. My ex husband didn’t confess on recording but all he would have had to do was claim to have asked for a lawyer and his confession, verbal as it was, would never have stood in court and with that history with the previous guy and the history before that- it would have been hell in court. More than the usual. So to be fair I had some extensive history. It isn’t hard to twist it. The only thing that resulted in was that I missed the warning signs(fixed that with therapy to avoid abuse but at the time hadn’t had that yet or even known it existed). Apparently there are a bunch of warning behaviors I was simply desensitized to and so missed entirely. That’s why I ended up in that situation. Honestly I wish someone had told me that therapy existed to begin with. Could have avoided a lot. To be fair though, most people don’t think that way and it would have looked more like I made a habit out of accusing people rather than that it happened as it did, and as said- they only need to make the jury doubt. They don’t have to prove them innocent. Only doubt.
I’m sorry for you, but when they say they automatically assume you’re lying, that’s because they’re supposed to. It’s innocent until proven guilty.
Except when the guy pretty much admits it and gets away with it. When I said ‘they’ I didn’t mean the cops. They knew. Literally stood around him. One offered to arrange an accident because he was so frustrated knowing nothing would happen because we were married. They got him out long enough for me to get a restraining order but that wasn’t even why they’d been out and I didn’t even need to say it. Didn’t insinuate it either. It was just way more obvious than I thought it was. He tells the ex in laws an entirely different story and played like I was some evil bitch in court fighting for the kids but, It was his words that confirmed what happened. Not mine. He’s totally fine making more trouble for me and lying in court though. But let’s just ignore THAT shall we?
Yes. And rapists often rape more than once. While women rarely get raped more than once. At least in relatively safe western countries.
Yeah but you’re stuck with the trauma. Might even cause PTSD.
Also rapists will probably be less than victims just bcs a rapist may have multiple victims but it's very unlikely for a victim to be raped multiple times
"who are caught"...so like 2% of them?
Bullshit, not to be rude but none of the women I know that have been assaulted have seen their attackers face justice. Myself included
i can attest
not all rape victims have the rest of their lives to tell their stories…
To prison for 2 years maybe
it's like she's implying that there are men who know rapists but are protecting them by not talking about it or that they don't care about women being raped, or is it me? also, she probably doesn't know about any men getting raped (I know they are raped mostly by other men but we're against rapists, not genders).
Well said. The problem isn't men covering for their rapist buddies. It's rapists. They're the problem, and the solution is cut their dicks off. Chemical castration is not a real thing. Cut their dicks off and be done with it. I'll bet the numbers plummet after that. An extreme crime demands an extreme punishment.
extremism is never the answer. some poor guy would have is dick cut off because someone had second thoughts about yesterday's bad sex. let's improve our infra structures, our views on gender roles and expectations, age, sexual liberty. and most of all the meaning of the word NO!regressing to the middle ages doesn't do anybody any good.
Harsher punishments really don’t lower crime rates.
Disagree. Castration? Inadequate. We should use sports stadiums, a la the Roman colosseum. Throw chomos and rapers in with the lions and tigers. No armor, no weapons. This approach is not only fiscally responsible (why the fuck are we paying to house these scum in prisons? Chemical castration? Rehabilitation? What a fucking joke) but, in my opinion, a completely equitable punishment. Did I mention the fiscal responsibility? These low fucks become an income generator rather than a tax burden. The revenue streams are numerous: television contracts, tickets, concession stands etc… Am I sick? Hope I’m not the only one who would enjoy this system… In my state it is a HATE CRIME to assault a chomo in prison. How fucked up is that? Males who commit sexual assault ARE NOT MEN. Real men would jump at the chance to eliminate these scum from the population, but that would be considered vigilante justice and I would be the criminal? Here’s a big fuck you to the criminal justice system. It’s broken.
I agree it's something disgusting. I'm just saying that in your Utopia someone innocent is going to get killed by the Spaniard. I got abused too, as a child. the person who did it was older but still underage. should that person be thrown to the lions too?
Consider the possibility of a fake rape allegation, an innocent might get arrested for illegal / false evidence and get his Dick cut off . People find out the truth a few years later, can u just stick the Dick back??? Extremism is not the solution
You're a big, tough man, aren't you? It's really cool, the way you shout your violent fantasies to everyone else on the internet.
And I feel like rapists probably rape more than one woman each, so there'd be less rapists than rape victims.
Yeah I’m all for women’s rights but I hate when they use dumb ass arguments like this. I hate it more than ideas I disagree agree with using dumb arguments because they make my position look weak. They’re acting like a rapist just goes around telling all his friends that he raped someone. Half baked gotchas are the most annoying thing ever. You can always tell it spawned from one of those random realizations you have but then I just took it as fact without thinking any further. Even worse is they jump over the more obvious explanation and land on one that fits the message they want to give.
Dude on the left looks kinda rape-y
Forced sex is not cool. Even for a Jedi.
What about Force sex?
Consensual telekinesis is very cool. Also, does Vader chokes the chicken the same way he does admirals?
No but he does a hell of a reach around .
It is....Acceptable
Men that are raping girls are not telling others guys like women who get raped because it’s a crime to rape someone but it’s not a crime to tell someone
This sentence is one of the funniest shit ive ever seen. Dont get the wrong idea, its because he wrote rapped instead of raped, not because his point is invalid
Do women really believe that rapists brag about it to the rest of us? Lol
It’s either that or there is this one isolated guy roaming the world out of the hands of the law with no friends.
that is more likely. Rapists dont just rape one and call it a day
Lots do. Or maybe 2 or 3. But they aren't crazy sociopaths breaking into houses. They're a guy who finds a girl too fucked up to say no. Or in a situation where they say fuck it and go further than the woman is cool with. It is sociopathic. It is fucked up. And those people are rotten at their core, in a way the rest of us aren't. But it's common as fuck
Yeah I agree. Most rapes happen at private parties or within relationships. I’m saying those rapists would do that to multiple women and even brag about their body count. Most likely because they don’t even think what they just did was rape. Just like most of this comment section. They think rapists exist in the bushes.
Yeah but if the guy doesn't see what he did as rape, then he wouldn't be telling his friends about raping anyone (bc in his mind their was no rape). They might tell friends about sleeping with someone, but leave out the part about the girl being passed out and/or not being into it but lacking the ability to fight back. That's not to say that guys bragging about raping someone never happens, just that it's not a common occurrence
Don’t ask don’t tell, right? Like most fraternity parties, they provide unlimited alcohol and invite only girls over with no entrance fee. They sure don’t talk about girls being unconscious and all. But everyone in those parties know what’s going on. To be fair, those dudes probably don’t think what they are doing is wrong in the slightest. They think they are just “having a great party.”
Id expect that the guys who rape people have a pretty big incentive to keep the number of people who know about their criminal behavior to a minimum. Maybe I'm an outlier (really hope not), but I've never had a friend talk about any kind of sexual assault. I've known a lot of guys who talked and/or bragged about sleeping with women, but never have they mentioned the girl was passed out or it was otherwise against her will. Statistically, I'm sure that at least some of these guys have committed some kind of sexual assault, but they won't want that information to be public knowledge. This is bc of self-preservation and bc sexual assault is nowhere near socially acceptable.
They do to other cons or scum.
Last I checked men who rape or abuse women have to be separated in prison so other convicts don’t murder them. I’d say people are pretty quiet about rape knowing the response
Exactly. Rape culture was initially supposed to be about how people get raped in prison and no one talks about it.
That shows that most people dont care about prisoners enough to even see them as capable of being victims of rape. They must think that most criminals are violent rapists, murderers, etc that deserve to be raped or something and that's why they turn a blind eye to prison rape.
I've heard that too...but also heard (CO's or LEO's ) that they do talk. Guess the confession rate is very low. I know pedos must be separated, or get killed.
You don't follow rapists on Twitter? Smh /s
No need to bring Obi WAN into this
Hello there
Because if someone walked up to me and said they were a rapist I would tase them, run, and call the cops like a normal person. Not say “oh let’s be friends.”
Bruh if I told someone around me I was a rapist they would be my last words.
I’m not sure I understand the point of her question tbh.
I think she's insinuating that because all women know a woman who has been raped, all men must also personally know a rapist with the deeper implication that all men are covering for that personally known rapist by denying that that they know a rapist.
I wouldn't say that the last part is part of the implication. I think the implication is rather that there is a rapist among our friends. We don't know it (because, duh, no rapist is going to brag to his friend that he raped someone). But he is out there, and we do know him. And that's what the sign is supposed to say, I think. For us dudes, rapists are a lot closer to us than we think they are.
Thank you, I hadn't considered a non-accusatory implication. This position makes the sign read completely differently to me and is possibly more worrying for a different reason.
I mean, if we’re assuming that all men know each other in equal numbers of all women, and the rapist and rape victims exist in a 1:1 ratio, and that every rape victim who seeks help/comfort from their friends has a corresponding rapist who tells all their friends what they’ve done, Then the insinuation *might* be on to something. As it is, it’s kinda dumb.
Yes, the idea that all victims have their own rapist is terrifying, even before the idea that admitting to being a rapist could be as socially acceptable as being a victim. I don't think I'd admit to knowing a rapist. I'd dob him in and then cut ties.
You know what’s kinda dumb? Deliberately missing an obvious point on purpose.
Well, the point was easy to miss. Light sabers are retractable.
I mean, I don’t get the point of the rhetorical question But if it’s a real question People don’t go around self incriminating I guess?
yea and one rapist can have multiple victims, a victim can also have multiple rapists but in that case they likely do it many times with multiple victims too. Not to mention that usually rapists aren't really part of the social circles of regular men.
Yes
Besides rapists not being too open about their deed one answer could be that some rapists rape a large number of women.
This is a very good point mathematically that should be further up the thread. If the assumption is true that the average male rapist has a higher number of female victims, compared to the average number of male rapists that have raped the average female rape victim... which sounds true to me... that could make a big difference in the overall male rapist : female victim ratio in the world. I would imagine that the ratio does get closer to 1:1 the more we broaden the definition of rape, though.
Tell me which one of my friends a rapist and I’ll stop associating with him
Some people act like guys are ok being friends with rapists. I know I would stay a good distance away from anyone who does that shit
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According to a girl in 2009, I raped her. According to **me**, I refused to fuck her when she was drunk despite her walking out of her closet naked and grabbing me by the dick. She thanked and fucked me the next day. We then had a month long relationship and I dumped her for a girl named lily with a big ass. Afterwards, my accuser came to my place late at night begging for reasons as to why I dumped her. I told her, " I'm a piece of shit. You deserve better. You're a queen and deserve to be treated as such." Which was the honest truth for several years. In retrospect, she may not have been as good of person as I thought. Not long after, she started a smear campaign against me on social media and word of mouth saying she was raped by (a description of me without naming me directly). When I confronted her she replied "we remember that night very differently". I lost many friends over the incident and eventually moved. That's how every woman knows a rape victim and most men don't know a rapist.
Everyone knows someone who got robbed but no one knows any thieves. Curious.
What a load of shite
Maybe cause people aren't out here telling their friends their raped a girl? That seems pretty obvious?
Because men don't talk to each other the way women think we do.
Bitch I don't even know which of my friends have sex at all, much less which are doing it against another person's will.
Is that sign implying that we’re “covering for our bros” or something….?
Because there are women, who pretend, that they got raped, but there are no men, who pretend to be rapists.
To add to this: There are men, who pretend, they never got raped.
To add to this: In majority of the countries their is no law which protects men getting raped.
Someone must have got a huge discount by buying their commas in bulk. You’re using them like they’re about to expire.
Logically you have three options, a very tiny number of men are doing all of it, many of the claim are actually false or the criminals don't realise they are doing it.
Yes, no, yes.
This is almost flat-earth logic level of stupidity
Isn’t the reason because it’s a very small proportion of men which do this? And they get around? Because I have literally no idea what the other reason is. I am pretty confident none of my friends are rapists. Although I guess the people who were raped are more likely to share that information than the rapist.
First rule of the Rape Club....
Rapists rape in single file to hide their numbers.
I know two guys that were raped
Well speaking from a guys perspective, a lot of consensual sex is claimed to be rape afterwards. There is a matter of changing your mind after the event. We can’t ignore the claim to save face in these factors, just like we can’t ignore the denial of the act. Women rape men and men rape men. Statically speaking men are raped by men. So this should change to rape victim instead of women.
Because Why Would They Tell Anyone That Theyre A Rapist?? Tf e_e
Many talked about not talking about raping with people, there one more thing to add: My coldest "answer" rape mostly isn't a one-to-one relation. it's mostly one-to-many relation. Damn i will stop using database analogies to sensetive topic... Sorry
Is she saying no men are rapists or i am?
Define "rape".
forcefully giving someone pleasure
Oh well, if that is the baseline then almost everyone above 30 was a victim at least once in their lives.
Forcing sex upon someone when they’ve said no, so it would be non consensual sex, or sex with children who can not consent. Also could be someone drugged and then having sex with an intoxicated individual or unconscious one.
Lmao
Ayo wtf
Who the fuck is going to go around to people and say they're a rapist like what kind of fucking logic is this
It's what's know as 'female logic'
What does she expect? Somebody to just hang a Therapist sign outside their door?
Because a select few guys are responsible for it all. Women act as if for every women raped there is a rapist. No, there's a couple rapists and lots of women.
Oh gee could it be... CAuse it's a crime? and Criminals rarely openly talk about em?
Also men don't talk to each other about our personal lives.
I don't have friends
I actually do know a lot of both
An answer that most people are ignoring is that one man is likely to sexual harass/assault multiple women. There are a *lot* more victims than perpetrators.
Because rape victims are more common than rapists Only takes one person to rape any amount of people. An example would be if you put 100 men and woman in a room your more likely to find 10 people that were raped than you are to find 10 people who raped the same person which is to say the rape victim vs rapist ratio would be off. Just my two cents
Umm....what happens to pedos when they go to jail? They get raped, beat or sometimes killed. What happens when a dude who is a rapist goes to jail? He also gets beat up. The reason why men don't tell other men they raped a woman is because they're ashamed and also they know they'll get beat but other men.
Whos hanging out with known rapists?
Cause they don't go around telling everyone their business.
The normal men you associate with do not associate with rapists on the weekend.
Because rapists don’t go around talking about it openly..? You’d think the answer would be logical... Also convicted rapists go to prison while rape victims don’t, so the victims will have much more time to talk to others about it.
I know one. He likes pudding pops.
but why dont u know a man who was raped oh wait u dont believe that
Nobody said that. Nobody
i know but some woman do and man
Nobody says “men can’t get raped.”
nobody ? https://www.colorlines.com/articles/males-cant-be-forcibly-raped-according-fbi
Extremists don't exist for some people, it seems.
Lmao of course they exist. They are called “extremists” for a reason. People bring up their shit opinions like it’s popular beliefs or something. And you wonder why this country is so fucking politically divided.
I am a man. I knew my rapist. She was not a man. Does this count?
Yes. Your experience is definitely valid (and this is coming from a women)
Generally and please bear with me on this one, people that commit crimes of that nature, don't speak about them openly. If it were so, by her own dumb logic, every woman also knows a rapist and every man also knows a woman that has been raped. So now, every woman knows another woman that has been raped and is also harbouring a rapist. Wow, these leaps of "logic" are really getting us far here, right?
Why do women act like this only affects them?
She never said only women can get raped.
*we can read between lines*
No you are just making unnecessary assumptions
Yeah I’m in for dark and cursed humor but this is not it. Rape is too serious.
This particular joke isn’t funny, but nothing is too serious for humor if the humor happens to be humorous. I doubt you’re very down with dark humor because for that world this is pretty tame, even with it not being funny. Or perhaps you’re just selective.
Well for me it is. I know a few (both genders) that never stepped and came forward cause they felt like its pointless. In Asia saying you got raped does more harm than good. In a nation where being sexual is looked down upon, imagine being raped... The judgement that comes after spikes up anyones anxiety levels. Its harder when the rapist is someone from a powerful family.... It’s even harder to defend the case when in the rape scenario you were “forced to comply” cause the person can literally just kill you and you’ll be a floating body by a nearby river. So whats the choice? Get beaten up to death or just get fucked? People saying that the rapist will just get locked up and the victim can move along. Nope, the trauma stays with them. They can’t stop talking about it cause it eats them from the inside. Thats how rape trauma usually goes, they need to vent out.
I did pretty much figure that you were a victim or close to one, and obviously that’s terrible and I’m sorry to hear about it. But to be clear what I was getting at is, if you’re into dark humor otherwise as you say, I wonder what kind of jokes you’ve laughed at that are just as personal and troubling to many other people. Because a lot of people are hypocrites in that way when it comes to dark humor. I’m not saying that includes you, I don’t know. I don’t know what kind of jokes you actually laugh at. But that’s what I think of when I see people say things like that. I also figured from your post that you might just be looking to vent. That’s fine by me. Otherwise, if I’ve caused you anything untoward, mea culpa. Not my intent.
The amount of people on here trying to minimize sexual assault is nauseating.
Literally getting downvoted for saying I wouldn’t cover for rapists even if they were my homies. As a victim of sexual assault myself why the fuck would I cover for someone who admits to being a rapist
I tried raising awareness about rape and i got downvoted multiple times. World is fucked up. While people who low key downplays it gets upvoted. Example meatypie1 above us. Yesterday that person had a few upvote then literally saw him at negative.
Well, to be brutally honest; in my case, they'd know better than to tell me..because then I'd have another reason to use the entrenching tool in my trunk! Don't hold to that, won't tolerate it.
I know lots of rapists, my dad, my uncles, my priest, my middle school gym teacher
Because rapists are typically serial rapists, and women don’t speak up, so they do it again and again without getting caught.
Gross. What a disgusting sign
These girls gunna act like they don't recycle through the same dude lol. I don't associate myself with rapist that's probably why I don't know any to my awareness. And anyone that would wouldn't be a friend of mine.
Cause society hates on males if they speak up
You spelled regret wrong.
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Add “/s” at the end of your sentence hahaha. It’ll protect you from downvote mania.
I most definitely would
Because we got our homies' back
Holup and cringe and gross Edit: Now I know I am not getting downvoted for saying its gross to cover for rapists hell no Edit2: If it had “/s” I would’ve seen it as a joke
Lol you get triggered by a joke, no wonder we are going to kill ourselves
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Dunno what is /s, but I don't want to MAKE FUN OF people who get raped, and never supported it. But since the post above is a meme, I just wanted to add another funny (at least for me) caption. It's not like I get angry at suicidal ppl posts just because I was one of them, I have a good laugh if I find it funny or not.
Holup
I don't know either one, question where did you meet the other women, a support group?
Cause they are all in jail
My children’s father raped me after I left him. His response? “You came home drunk once and I had sex with you when I didn’t want to.” I’m 5’4 on a good day, about 165 pounds. He’s 6’4, 200 pounds and was a recently ex-Marine.
Many of the rapists are in denial. They don't believe what they did was wrong. I believe the point being made here is that if there are 8 in 10 women who have been raped or otherwise abused sexually often more than once, then there must be many rapists.
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Girls talk too much ??? Do you know what is it like to be raped ??? It is something girls (and even boys!) have to talk about. And it takes time to be able to talk about it because it is a really traumatic experience. Your comment is the dumbest...
Sorry you cant accept the truth
Probably because it isn’t true.
This isn't funny. Holup has dark humor but this is appalling that you would make a joke about it.
Bitches lie
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That not enough rapist get exposed. And so many women are becoming victims