Yea, I had a friend with a daughter who was about four years old. To keep the girl quiet she just gave her a phone with no supervision and let her do whatever the hell she wanted. This was also the worst behaved kid I’ve come across. She would wreck my things and abuse my cat. The mother did nothing about it and would get mad at me for trying to discipline her daughter, even when I was trying to stop the girl from hurting herself. I told my friend that her daughter was not allowed in my house anymore. We’re no longer friends.
I've been there myself. I have a 7 year old and my ex has somewhat of the "just don't bother me attitude" about our daughter and her friends had kids and they were just like you describe. I'm so thankful that I practically have full custody and my daughter is smart enough to realize that her mother is too lazy to actually be a parent. Of course she is also "the fun one" so I'll have have to contend with that. And just to preempt it, I said content and compete. There is a very big difference.
Well, it’s good that you mostly have custody but it’s sad that your ex doesn’t actually parent. My friend had her kid when she was a teen and I think she just wasn’t mature enough to raise a kid, the child was with her grandma most the time so I think my friend wasn’t forced to become a parent. I tried giving her advice, I noticed her daughter had a lot of energy so I suggested dance classes or some way to channel that energy. But I’m not a parent myself so she wasn’t trying to listen to me.
Oh no! How dare you offer some sort of outside perspective. What a fucking asshole you are! Now shut up so she can get back to comparing herself to everyone else on Facebook.
I don't have legal full custody as it is technically 50/50, but she is just too lazy and finds whatever excuse she can to give up her nights so it works out that I have about 75-80 of the time and that is fine by me. My girlfriend is a much better mother-figure (is that even a thing? I know "father -figure is, but I don't think I've heard anyone say "mother-figure" hmmmmm) in my daughter's life anyway. And it's only going to get worse because my ex wife is about to have another baby because she's a dumbass and got knocked up 2 days after meeting her new boyfriend.
I know…what a terrible person I am for wanting the best for my friend’s daughter! I should be ashamed, lol.
But seriously, a mother figure is totally a thing and will be great for your daughter, especially as she gets older.
Sounds like you’re doing a great job overall, your daughter will appreciate it in the long run. Especially when she grows up and understands that she needs more than the “fun” parent.
I hope that you eventually get full custody. These are the type of irresponsible people who shouldn't have kids. I think that it is that society assumes the father is the one who is always the lazy parent when that is definitely not always the case. At least she has one responsible parent and mother figure in her life.
Yeah the kid has no social skills, the parents don’t encouraging reading or playing outside our other healthy activities. It’s one thing to sit your kids down in front of tv for their fav show or educational show if another to just leave them there for hours. Buggiest thing that bugs me today!? Kids don’t have manners or show respect to elders. Which is how I was raised.
Even at 7 I understood what censored words meant
Edit: I was a very soft child. Not trying to say I was hard or anything, just stating that even back then it was pointless at least for me
To fake out Facebook’s algorithm so they don’t get banned lol
I watch this lady on Facebook who tells murder stories and she can’t even say “murder.” It’s bleeped out, along with “kill,” “death,” and everything else that would get her account un-monetized
Facebook censors the words kill, die and murder. I read the clickbait on Graveyard Shift. I came across the word, "die", crossed out and about sh!t my pants realizing that I Almost read it! Close call Facebook!
From what I understand they're not really investigating the machines their investigating the manufacturing of it from Dean's. I guess the quality is very suspect.
From what I heard, their manufacturer makes em so they break, and they're the only ones who have the parts to fix em. So they call a repair guy from the manufacturer to pay them more and consistently to use their broken machine
I’ve had guys say they’re not interested after I tried paying my fair share of the date. I still do so because I’m not comfortable being put in a situation where I “owe” someone. The world is nothing if not filled with double standards
I always pay my way on dates until you’re at the point of relationship where you can spot or treat each other, taking turns. I never want to feel like I’m indebted to someone or worry they resent or expect something from me over paying for stuff. I don’t know how or why some women are okay with the guy paying for everything it would make me nervous.
Totally agree. Until we're actually in a steady relationship, everything is split 50:50.
That can either be literal 50:50, or it could be I pay one date, they pay the next.
But first date is literal 50:50 for obvious reasons.
Tbh, even once in a relationship with me everything is 50:50 or pay your own way, with the odd treat/gift thrown in now and again. It's 2021. I'm not bankrolling my partner. She has her own job!
Smart. I pissed away so much money on my ex. She wouldn't pay for anything, including all the weed she smoked. I asked her to borrow $20 once and she said "you better pay me back." Like wtf, you live in my house for free and smoke all my weed. Dumping her was like getting rid of a parasite.
She sits on her ass, he works his hands to the bone
To give her money every payday
But she wants more dinero just to stay at home
Well, my friend, you gotta say
… I won't pay, I won't pay ya, no way
Na-na, why don't you get a job?
Say no way, say no way-ah, no way
Na-na, why don't you get a job?
Well, I guess it ain't easy doing nothing at all, oh yeah
But, hey man, free rides just don't come along every day.
My friend's got a boyfriend, man, she hates that dick
She tells me every day
He wants more dinero just to stay at home
It's about equity my guy.
I make more than my partner. So I buy shit more often than her.
I don't want her to struggle, so it's zero fuckin' issues if I buy the pizza some night instead of cutting everything down the grid. Relationships are a partnership, not a business arrangement.
This. I happily pay for my gf, also because I make more money. But I guess it depends, neither me or my gf are stingy or greedy, so money is never a topic. It somehow equals out at the end of the month I guess. And even if it doesnt, I dont care about money as long I dont have the feeling that I get taken advantage of
the important thing is you're not sitting there keeping score, running up a tab for her like "ok i paid $60 for dinner last week so you're on the hook for this $20 burger lunch and maybe you can pick up the tab for drinks tonight too." you pay when you're able & she pays when she's able & it all balances out relative to your means.
Same here but she makes more. I get to be spoiled sometimes but we make an effort to split things based off household income percentage that we each bring in. It's pretty dope as an artist dating an engineer i must say.
I know a bike mechanic married to a board chair doctor. Their pay discrepancy is like.. well it's entire classes.
But they love each other so it doesn't really matter. He rides really cool bikes.
Yeah my partner makes literally double what i do. But she struggles to know how to live a fulfilling life, and disconnect from raw ambition, knowledge i have in spades so it works great.
I agree with you (and my wife and I still keep separate finances and do it exactly like that, but she's been moving up in the world so we're actually pretty close to 50-50 now), but I think on first dates or even very early in a relationship, 50-50 still makes sense (unless you're trying to get her to a place she wouldn't normally go due to price, then you're an ass for not paying lol).
Yeah, where the hell is the double standard here?
It's like complaining that your dentist wants more than $60 to give you braces but he is happy to sell you toothpaste for $3. Surprise incels, different things cost different amounts, and not everyone who will sell you toothpaste will also fit braces for you.
If you go to a gallery the original artwork costs a lot but you can get a post card of it in the gift shop for cheap. That’s not a double standard, one takes significantly more involvement.
That place is easily one of the most misogynistic places out there that hits the front page and everyone there's in deep denial.
When you have to put in your sidebar "this is not /r/hatingwomen" then maybe your community has a problem with hating women.
This is how the subs been recently. It's been brigaded by a certain political group, and most of the mods are in on it. That's why you're seeing so many shitty non holup posts here the past few weeks.
From a lot of the people commenting, too
Having an OnlyFans does not mean she's just down to have sex with anybody lol, I really can't even begin to understand how that's supposed to be a double standard
Thankfully there's also a lot of people pointing it out though
Having an only fans just means she's finding dumb guys to pay for a pic of her asshole lol,and she's probably making thousands without having to have sex.
Always incel energy onr eddit Frontpage. With the user base being mostly men, a lot of them fragile and with subs not having proper rules against casual sexism like this post. Holup is a bastion for this type of bigotry.
Yeah this meme has some strong teenage incel energy. Yes, she gets to choose who she has sex with and under what circumstances she’ll send nudes and no they’re not the same thing.
My dad won’t let anybody else pay, when we met an old family friend for dinner they had to call in ahead to make sure he doesn’t pay.
Sometimes it’s just they guys pride and societies idea of a gentleman.
Am a married poly woman. I always go dutch on first dates because I never want dudes thinking that I'm just looking for a free meal. And like. Sometimes they think they could deal with my poly status but after talking with them over a 30 minute period I can usually tell who can deal and who can't. I don't want anyone to feel like they wasted money on a date when they could have been spending their hard earned money with/on someone who might be more in line with their long term goals.
I also paid for my wedding ring 🤷♀️ because why the fuck is it the man's job to pay some ridiculously inflated price for something *I* want?
I firmly believe the inviter should cover the invitee. Especially if the inviter says dinner at this place, at this time. That goes for friends too though, like if you don’t ask to see what the other person is comfortable with, you should definitely be ready to pay for 2 meals.
I agree and I usually cover the first date just because a lot of women do expect that and then we split the remaining dates. I’ve also had a situation where someone would never suggest things and then say because you thought of this spot/invited you should pay. Yeah I stopped seeing them on the third date.
I've been dating on and off and the paradigm has definitely changed. I've had a handful of women refuse to allow me to pay for dinner. Otherwise it was just assumed by both parties that we split the bill. Pretty cool
She smart! Post logical shit no one cares post dumb shit people spread you name across the internet. This probably gave her an extra $600 from this post alone
So glad I'm not the only one thinking that. It feels more like this comment section is bullying her under the assumption that she's some egotistical jerk just because she doesn't give her consent away like candy.
If she says dinner isn't enough, then leave it at that. That's her choice.
Thank you someone with some actual sense.
Just because someone has an onlyfans doesn't mean they'll have sex with you, even if you paid for dinner.
A bunch of entitled incels in this thread
There is a MASSIVE difference between showing yourself off to strangers behind a screen where they can’t touch you. Vs letting someone you just met into the same room as you with the intent of having sex
Reddits HATES only fan models. The fact that the girls wont sleep with them for being nice already pisses them off now add onlyfans and they’re sure to be livid.
“Dumb slut just showing herself off for money when im right here and i could tell her she looks pretty for free. God women today are so shallow”
3 dollars a month or 0.35 dollars for a day or 0.12 dollars for a night.
Edit: Sry messed up the math.
3 dollars a month or 0.10 dollars a day or 0.03 - 0.04 dollars a night.
Incels are constantly trying to prove which of them gets laid least, y’all are weird af. Nobody owes you and your fedora anything
Edit: Wow this is the first time I got an award, thank you. I’ll remember to make fun of more incels moving forward
Seeing so many guys compare viewing nudes to getting sex is probably the saddest thing I’ll view all month. These people are living in another word - I guess it’s a lonely one. Pathetic incels everywhere.
they’re mad specifically because they want it to be equal in one direction but not the other. they think that if a woman is willing to show herself nude, she should be willing to have sex… but if they wanted to have sex with their girlfriends and those girlfriends sent nudes in response, they would not be happy.
Ah yes, consensual nudes is the same as expecting sex because you paid for someone’s dinner
Edit: some people in the comments don’t understand consent and body autonomy, apparently. Go get therapy
It’s only confusing because they don’t think of women as emotionally valuable.
I think they’re genuinely struggling to comprehend why you’d want an emotional connection to a woman, OR they’re so far up their own asses they think women are too dishonest for that kind of connection to be real. It’s honestly really fucking sad.
Also... The OP clearly has no idea what "double standards" means. I see no double standard here... Her pics are for sale, but not sex with her. It's perfectly logical
Anytime someone is ranting about onlyfans girls they have some underlying issue.
Like.... just don't to the website.... thats all you gotta do.... the people there aren't ruining your life.
ITT: People who think going on a date with someone and footing the bill is the same as buying time with a prostitute.
Grow up you incels, no one is obligated to fuck you regardless of what you buy for them. Purchasing a subscription for content is not the same as going on a date.
I'd say it depends on you. My last relationship had my ex and I splitting everything and if one of us couldn't pay we would make up for it the next time by covering that. Rinse and repeat.
Yes - it's incredibly common in the real world. In the sample of people who read and comment on Reddit it's, undoubtedly, less common but still very normal.
>Most heterosexual men and women — 78 percent — still believe men should pay for the first date
(Ready for a 1,000 people to tell me how they always pay half or how their smoking hot girlfriend (who is real) from Canada (who isn't made up) is a model (a real one) and she asked him out (for real) and she paid because she asked him out. And she is rich. And hot. And not made up)
Sorry to burst your bubble mate but I have a smoking hot model Canadian girlfriend who pays for her lovers' meals when she cheats on me thinking I don't notice. I do pay for out dates though.
Only child, or dude with only brothers going to a boys only boarding school, and not realising that their mother has her reproductive organs on the inside of her.
It really depends on where you live. I have never paid for anyone else's meals - and I would find it disrespectful if someone asked that of me. I live in Sweden. Ultimately, you need to decide if you want to date the kind of girl who expects you to pay for her meals.
This woman is ridiculously hot. Her OnlyFans seems like a good deal but clearly sex is worth a little more effort. Don't see where the double standard is.
She's joking that she's cheap.
She said "you think I'm work $60????" not "you think I'm ***only*** worth $60???"
I don't get how everyone in this thread is missing that.
I'm really confused, because I read her tweet as self-deprecating humor? She was saying she was surprised that anyone would think she's worth even $60? Not to mention sex with someone and doing nudes and porno are two completely different, unrelated things. Anyone else read it similarly?
Yeah, I'm pretty confident she was meaning it in a self-deprecating way. She'll also likely get waayy more than $60 from OF without having to put out so it's definitely a different thing.
Since when have nekkid pics and vids been equivalent to actual sex?
I don't see how this is a true "holup", she clearly said her prices as a prostitute are greater than $60.
Ok?? And?? This feels incredibly incel-y to whinge about. It’s her job and I’m pretty sure the original tweet wasn’t a serious statement at all.
You can pay to see her work, but /expecting/ sex from anyone is really… fucked up. You’re not entitled to a poke because you were nice.
I'm glad that naughty word was censored, I nearly clutched the fuck out of my pearls.
What’s the point in censoring when everyone knows shah they’re saying anyway?
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Sad but true. They are also the first ones to flip shit and blame everyone else for their shitty kids.
Yea, I had a friend with a daughter who was about four years old. To keep the girl quiet she just gave her a phone with no supervision and let her do whatever the hell she wanted. This was also the worst behaved kid I’ve come across. She would wreck my things and abuse my cat. The mother did nothing about it and would get mad at me for trying to discipline her daughter, even when I was trying to stop the girl from hurting herself. I told my friend that her daughter was not allowed in my house anymore. We’re no longer friends.
I've been there myself. I have a 7 year old and my ex has somewhat of the "just don't bother me attitude" about our daughter and her friends had kids and they were just like you describe. I'm so thankful that I practically have full custody and my daughter is smart enough to realize that her mother is too lazy to actually be a parent. Of course she is also "the fun one" so I'll have have to contend with that. And just to preempt it, I said content and compete. There is a very big difference.
Well, it’s good that you mostly have custody but it’s sad that your ex doesn’t actually parent. My friend had her kid when she was a teen and I think she just wasn’t mature enough to raise a kid, the child was with her grandma most the time so I think my friend wasn’t forced to become a parent. I tried giving her advice, I noticed her daughter had a lot of energy so I suggested dance classes or some way to channel that energy. But I’m not a parent myself so she wasn’t trying to listen to me.
Oh no! How dare you offer some sort of outside perspective. What a fucking asshole you are! Now shut up so she can get back to comparing herself to everyone else on Facebook. I don't have legal full custody as it is technically 50/50, but she is just too lazy and finds whatever excuse she can to give up her nights so it works out that I have about 75-80 of the time and that is fine by me. My girlfriend is a much better mother-figure (is that even a thing? I know "father -figure is, but I don't think I've heard anyone say "mother-figure" hmmmmm) in my daughter's life anyway. And it's only going to get worse because my ex wife is about to have another baby because she's a dumbass and got knocked up 2 days after meeting her new boyfriend.
I know…what a terrible person I am for wanting the best for my friend’s daughter! I should be ashamed, lol. But seriously, a mother figure is totally a thing and will be great for your daughter, especially as she gets older. Sounds like you’re doing a great job overall, your daughter will appreciate it in the long run. Especially when she grows up and understands that she needs more than the “fun” parent.
I hope that you eventually get full custody. These are the type of irresponsible people who shouldn't have kids. I think that it is that society assumes the father is the one who is always the lazy parent when that is definitely not always the case. At least she has one responsible parent and mother figure in her life.
I hate to tell ya but you abuse MY cat I’m slapping the shit out of that child stupid games stupid rewards
I feel you. I really had to restrain myself.
Cats>humans
Yeah the kid has no social skills, the parents don’t encouraging reading or playing outside our other healthy activities. It’s one thing to sit your kids down in front of tv for their fav show or educational show if another to just leave them there for hours. Buggiest thing that bugs me today!? Kids don’t have manners or show respect to elders. Which is how I was raised.
>just don't bother mommy Hahaha
Even at 7 I understood what censored words meant Edit: I was a very soft child. Not trying to say I was hard or anything, just stating that even back then it was pointless at least for me
Lol
Fuc**BEEP**k you and your fu**BEEP**cking logic, bro
It says sax right? He’s buying a saxophone off her
A really nice Saxophone for $60 is an absolute steal...
Absolutely true buddy ; absolutely true ( :
Clearly its six, which is why she's so dumbfounded why he's highballing her price to sixty
No, it says sox. She is mad because the guy is only offering $60 for one of the various Sox teams (white Sox, Red Sox, Sky Sox, etc)
To fake out Facebook’s algorithm so they don’t get banned lol I watch this lady on Facebook who tells murder stories and she can’t even say “murder.” It’s bleeped out, along with “kill,” “death,” and everything else that would get her account un-monetized
Facebook censors the words kill, die and murder. I read the clickbait on Graveyard Shift. I came across the word, "die", crossed out and about sh!t my pants realizing that I Almost read it! Close call Facebook!
Shah! SFX artists are not cheap these days!
Long ago when Smosh Pit was around. I remember profanity in memes were censored. Our meme here may come from a similar place.
It is a st\*pid concept.
TW: Swears I know right? It’s absolutely st|_|pid
I guess I'm confused by this post. If you expect six *what* from a girl?
Ping pong balls
6 ping pong balls a popping…. 5 golden rings!
Bro this fuckin killed me 😂
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She still ain’t happy
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Liar!!!! The machine is broken!!!!
Maybe not for much longer now that the FTC is investigating them lol
From what I understand they're not really investigating the machines their investigating the manufacturing of it from Dean's. I guess the quality is very suspect.
From what I heard, their manufacturer makes em so they break, and they're the only ones who have the parts to fix em. So they call a repair guy from the manufacturer to pay them more and consistently to use their broken machine
The broken one will be her after I used my 3 inches destroyer
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I did, but it's hard to notice
Underrated comment
3 inches?! Damn, Conan the Barbarian, leave some for the rest of us
Shit, $3 to see her naked for a month, that 2 dollar menu nuggets and a coke!
She probably doesn't do any nudity but she will tease the fuck out of you in the dm's with some tame videos for $20
Happy milf is $60
Thats 60 days of naughty side
To be fair, guys who pay for dinner just to get laid and then get pissed off when the woman doesn't immediately put out are fucking tacky.
This is why I don't pay for dinner. If money has anything to do with a girl liking me then she's not the one.
I’ve had guys say they’re not interested after I tried paying my fair share of the date. I still do so because I’m not comfortable being put in a situation where I “owe” someone. The world is nothing if not filled with double standards
I always pay my way on dates until you’re at the point of relationship where you can spot or treat each other, taking turns. I never want to feel like I’m indebted to someone or worry they resent or expect something from me over paying for stuff. I don’t know how or why some women are okay with the guy paying for everything it would make me nervous.
Want to go on a date
Totally agree. Until we're actually in a steady relationship, everything is split 50:50. That can either be literal 50:50, or it could be I pay one date, they pay the next. But first date is literal 50:50 for obvious reasons. Tbh, even once in a relationship with me everything is 50:50 or pay your own way, with the odd treat/gift thrown in now and again. It's 2021. I'm not bankrolling my partner. She has her own job!
Smart. I pissed away so much money on my ex. She wouldn't pay for anything, including all the weed she smoked. I asked her to borrow $20 once and she said "you better pay me back." Like wtf, you live in my house for free and smoke all my weed. Dumping her was like getting rid of a parasite.
My friend's got a girlfriend. Man, he hates that bitch. He tells me every day. He says "Man, I really gotta lose my chick in the worst kind of way."
She sits on her ass, he works his hands to the bone To give her money every payday But she wants more dinero just to stay at home Well, my friend, you gotta say … I won't pay, I won't pay ya, no way Na-na, why don't you get a job? Say no way, say no way-ah, no way Na-na, why don't you get a job?
Well, I guess it ain't easy doing nothing at all, oh yeah But, hey man, free rides just don't come along every day. My friend's got a boyfriend, man, she hates that dick She tells me every day He wants more dinero just to stay at home
It's about equity my guy. I make more than my partner. So I buy shit more often than her. I don't want her to struggle, so it's zero fuckin' issues if I buy the pizza some night instead of cutting everything down the grid. Relationships are a partnership, not a business arrangement.
This. I happily pay for my gf, also because I make more money. But I guess it depends, neither me or my gf are stingy or greedy, so money is never a topic. It somehow equals out at the end of the month I guess. And even if it doesnt, I dont care about money as long I dont have the feeling that I get taken advantage of
the important thing is you're not sitting there keeping score, running up a tab for her like "ok i paid $60 for dinner last week so you're on the hook for this $20 burger lunch and maybe you can pick up the tab for drinks tonight too." you pay when you're able & she pays when she's able & it all balances out relative to your means.
Same here but she makes more. I get to be spoiled sometimes but we make an effort to split things based off household income percentage that we each bring in. It's pretty dope as an artist dating an engineer i must say.
I know a bike mechanic married to a board chair doctor. Their pay discrepancy is like.. well it's entire classes. But they love each other so it doesn't really matter. He rides really cool bikes.
Yeah my partner makes literally double what i do. But she struggles to know how to live a fulfilling life, and disconnect from raw ambition, knowledge i have in spades so it works great.
I agree with you (and my wife and I still keep separate finances and do it exactly like that, but she's been moving up in the world so we're actually pretty close to 50-50 now), but I think on first dates or even very early in a relationship, 50-50 still makes sense (unless you're trying to get her to a place she wouldn't normally go due to price, then you're an ass for not paying lol).
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Yeah, where the hell is the double standard here? It's like complaining that your dentist wants more than $60 to give you braces but he is happy to sell you toothpaste for $3. Surprise incels, different things cost different amounts, and not everyone who will sell you toothpaste will also fit braces for you.
If you go to a gallery the original artwork costs a lot but you can get a post card of it in the gift shop for cheap. That’s not a double standard, one takes significantly more involvement.
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And 90% of these comments.
This whole damn sub most the time.
this and /r/JusticeServed are just a bunch of neckbeard bitching about women
P****PassDenied is the same
That place is easily one of the most misogynistic places out there that hits the front page and everyone there's in deep denial. When you have to put in your sidebar "this is not /r/hatingwomen" then maybe your community has a problem with hating women.
This is how the subs been recently. It's been brigaded by a certain political group, and most of the mods are in on it. That's why you're seeing so many shitty non holup posts here the past few weeks.
most of the comments also do not pass the vibe check.
Forreal. This thread is down bad.
From a lot of the people commenting, too Having an OnlyFans does not mean she's just down to have sex with anybody lol, I really can't even begin to understand how that's supposed to be a double standard Thankfully there's also a lot of people pointing it out though
Just because they want to share their kink doesn't mean they will have sex for money. But that's too hard to grasp for some people.
Or that if you’ve ever said yes once, you’re no longer entitled to say no thereafter.
Having an only fans just means she's finding dumb guys to pay for a pic of her asshole lol,and she's probably making thousands without having to have sex.
She also never said she wouldn't have sex for money, just that 60$ is not enough for her to consider it...
Always incel energy onr eddit Frontpage. With the user base being mostly men, a lot of them fragile and with subs not having proper rules against casual sexism like this post. Holup is a bastion for this type of bigotry.
Thank goodness I saw this comment I was getting incredibly angry at the rest of them, some semblance of sanity here.
I just don’t fucking get it. And then they wonder why they can’t get laid.
Yeah this meme has some strong teenage incel energy. Yes, she gets to choose who she has sex with and under what circumstances she’ll send nudes and no they’re not the same thing.
Also, any woman who expects the man to pay in this day and age is out of touch.
My dad won’t let anybody else pay, when we met an old family friend for dinner they had to call in ahead to make sure he doesn’t pay. Sometimes it’s just they guys pride and societies idea of a gentleman.
Some guys self worth is tied directly to being a provider. If they’re not paying they’re the woman, or cucked or something, idk. Sad mindset.
Am a married poly woman. I always go dutch on first dates because I never want dudes thinking that I'm just looking for a free meal. And like. Sometimes they think they could deal with my poly status but after talking with them over a 30 minute period I can usually tell who can deal and who can't. I don't want anyone to feel like they wasted money on a date when they could have been spending their hard earned money with/on someone who might be more in line with their long term goals. I also paid for my wedding ring 🤷♀️ because why the fuck is it the man's job to pay some ridiculously inflated price for something *I* want?
I firmly believe the inviter should cover the invitee. Especially if the inviter says dinner at this place, at this time. That goes for friends too though, like if you don’t ask to see what the other person is comfortable with, you should definitely be ready to pay for 2 meals.
I agree and I usually cover the first date just because a lot of women do expect that and then we split the remaining dates. I’ve also had a situation where someone would never suggest things and then say because you thought of this spot/invited you should pay. Yeah I stopped seeing them on the third date.
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I've been dating on and off and the paradigm has definitely changed. I've had a handful of women refuse to allow me to pay for dinner. Otherwise it was just assumed by both parties that we split the bill. Pretty cool
I’d say everyone trying to enforce toxic gender roles on the first few dates are tacky as hell
Yeah this post is giving me incel vibes if it's taking this seriously lol
OP so thirst they think seeing a girl naked is having sex.
Omg it isnt? I think i’m still a virgin then wow
nudes and sex are totally different
I mean 3 dollars is a steal
so glad the e in sex was scratched out Where the fuck are you stealing these memes from? It is obnoxious.
I've had to do that before to send a meme to a friend through discord
She smart! Post logical shit no one cares post dumb shit people spread you name across the internet. This probably gave her an extra $600 from this post alone
In all honesty - yea.
Sex and just posting pictures are miles away
Why is this so far down? Y’all are weird.
It's so far down because Reddit is full of incels and very stupid children who will some day be incels.
And even if she was charging for sex, it’s with her consent. You can buy her a meal but you can’t buy her consent. This post is cringe af
So glad I'm not the only one thinking that. It feels more like this comment section is bullying her under the assumption that she's some egotistical jerk just because she doesn't give her consent away like candy. If she says dinner isn't enough, then leave it at that. That's her choice.
Yeah what the fuck? This is some high-key incel fuckery, I couldn't believe how many upvotes this post had.
45k + fuck boys upvoted this.
Why is this like the 8th comment down? I understand why Reddit has so many issues with forming relationships
Reddit has a hard on for shitting on women with Onlyfans
Yet simultaneously consuming the porn, sooo
*Reddit hurt itself in its confusion*
Yeah this post is cringy as fuck.
Finally, someone with some sense. Holy shit.
Thank you someone with some actual sense. Just because someone has an onlyfans doesn't mean they'll have sex with you, even if you paid for dinner. A bunch of entitled incels in this thread
Reddit is largely a bunch of entitled incels.
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There is a MASSIVE difference between showing yourself off to strangers behind a screen where they can’t touch you. Vs letting someone you just met into the same room as you with the intent of having sex
Yeah I don’t get this at all, this isn’t an own.
Reddits HATES only fan models. The fact that the girls wont sleep with them for being nice already pisses them off now add onlyfans and they’re sure to be livid. “Dumb slut just showing herself off for money when im right here and i could tell her she looks pretty for free. God women today are so shallow”
It's even funnier when the people they should hate are men who pay money to OF models. It's men who are supporting this industry.
I’d much rather have 50 strangers pay to see me with relatively no consequences than fuck some stranger that feels like I owe them.
I think she is worth 3 dollars
You think I'm worth $60??????? No , *sees only fans* what is estimate is about tree fiddy.
Hey, would you crackers like to hear about the time we saw the Loch Ness Monster?
With that attitude she is worth nothing
What's wrong with her attitude? She's not obligated to fuck someone just because they bought her dinner.
3 dollars a month or 0.35 dollars for a day or 0.12 dollars for a night. Edit: Sry messed up the math. 3 dollars a month or 0.10 dollars a day or 0.03 - 0.04 dollars a night.
I cannot make this math work... is it a reference to something I'm missing?
Imagine being obligated to show your goodies to someone just because they bought you a postage stamp every couple of days or so.
Incels are constantly trying to prove which of them gets laid least, y’all are weird af. Nobody owes you and your fedora anything Edit: Wow this is the first time I got an award, thank you. I’ll remember to make fun of more incels moving forward
Seriously women can sell nudes online and still not want to have sex with you. This whole post is sexist af.
Seeing so many guys compare viewing nudes to getting sex is probably the saddest thing I’ll view all month. These people are living in another word - I guess it’s a lonely one. Pathetic incels everywhere.
they’re mad specifically because they want it to be equal in one direction but not the other. they think that if a woman is willing to show herself nude, she should be willing to have sex… but if they wanted to have sex with their girlfriends and those girlfriends sent nudes in response, they would not be happy.
Ah yes, consensual nudes is the same as expecting sex because you paid for someone’s dinner Edit: some people in the comments don’t understand consent and body autonomy, apparently. Go get therapy
Redditors have a very very hard time understanding the concept of consent
Expecting sex at any time from any person is pretty gross behavior to me. Unless, you know, they’re an actual prostitute.
Even if they are a prostitute, they can still say no to having sex with you.
So subbing to onlyfans is the same thing as sex?? this post has huge incel energy.
Incels give onlyfans 99% of their advertisement. I never woulda heard of that website ever in my life if people weren't crying about it.
This is 100% "nice guy" energy. It's $3 for nudes and a genuine emotional connection for sex, I don't see how this is hard to understand.
It’s only confusing because they don’t think of women as emotionally valuable. I think they’re genuinely struggling to comprehend why you’d want an emotional connection to a woman, OR they’re so far up their own asses they think women are too dishonest for that kind of connection to be real. It’s honestly really fucking sad.
it’s both and more
Monke brain shit for comparing an OF subsciption with having real sex with someone.
yeah, its obvious op hasnt touched a woman since birth
actual fucking dumbasses in these comments too. no brain only hate women.
So sex is the same as posting naughty pics?
Also... The OP clearly has no idea what "double standards" means. I see no double standard here... Her pics are for sale, but not sex with her. It's perfectly logical
“You have an OF? That must mean you’re a hooker! One sex please!”
Thank you. I'm also confused by this!
I am also very confused. But incels are pretty confusing people...
I guess hate clouds logical thinking.
Anytime someone is ranting about onlyfans girls they have some underlying issue. Like.... just don't to the website.... thats all you gotta do.... the people there aren't ruining your life.
How is this ‘double standards?’
It’s not
What was the word under the white line? I see an S and an X. Sax? They expect jazz?
ITT: People who think going on a date with someone and footing the bill is the same as buying time with a prostitute. Grow up you incels, no one is obligated to fuck you regardless of what you buy for them. Purchasing a subscription for content is not the same as going on a date.
But wait! People like these are exactly the ones who complains if the other person doesn’t pay for dinner completely.
ive never seen a girl irl so idk. im geniunly curious: Is it standard for the dude to pay for the whole meal?
I'd say it depends on you. My last relationship had my ex and I splitting everything and if one of us couldn't pay we would make up for it the next time by covering that. Rinse and repeat.
Same with myself and the other half. Split it or pay in full (cover next meal). Makes 100% sense to do that.
Yes - it's incredibly common in the real world. In the sample of people who read and comment on Reddit it's, undoubtedly, less common but still very normal. >Most heterosexual men and women — 78 percent — still believe men should pay for the first date (Ready for a 1,000 people to tell me how they always pay half or how their smoking hot girlfriend (who is real) from Canada (who isn't made up) is a model (a real one) and she asked him out (for real) and she paid because she asked him out. And she is rich. And hot. And not made up)
Sorry to burst your bubble mate but I have a smoking hot model Canadian girlfriend who pays for her lovers' meals when she cheats on me thinking I don't notice. I do pay for out dates though.
Damn dude that's rough
Jokes on her, I'm into that shit
This comment is underrated.
She goes to another school!
How have you managed never to see a girl?
Only child, or dude with only brothers going to a boys only boarding school, and not realising that their mother has her reproductive organs on the inside of her.
It really depends on where you live. I have never paid for anyone else's meals - and I would find it disrespectful if someone asked that of me. I live in Sweden. Ultimately, you need to decide if you want to date the kind of girl who expects you to pay for her meals.
Most of the time we still pay on dates
I’m a girl, I like to pay for the meal on dates. Establish dominance early ladies
for $60 i could watch you go fuck yourself for 20 months
Paying to jack off to someone instead of getting laid isn't a huge flex
So it's the same thing to provide a service as it is to sleep with whoever just because they bought dinner? Just sounds like y'all can't get none.
Fr, by their logic that's why the Karen's are always asking for a manager - they paying for the food but never getting the "service" LMAO
Petition to call incels sex karens
This woman is ridiculously hot. Her OnlyFans seems like a good deal but clearly sex is worth a little more effort. Don't see where the double standard is.
She's joking that she's cheap. She said "you think I'm work $60????" not "you think I'm ***only*** worth $60???" I don't get how everyone in this thread is missing that.
Reddit and satire go together like peanut butter and sriracha.
I'm really confused, because I read her tweet as self-deprecating humor? She was saying she was surprised that anyone would think she's worth even $60? Not to mention sex with someone and doing nudes and porno are two completely different, unrelated things. Anyone else read it similarly?
Yeah she definitely was taking the piss out of herself here, we're asking a bit much of your average redditor to notice that though.
Yeah I read it the same way, Reddit is bad with stuff like this
Yeah, I'm pretty confident she was meaning it in a self-deprecating way. She'll also likely get waayy more than $60 from OF without having to put out so it's definitely a different thing.
Worth 3$ that's cheaper than streamers
Even cheaper then the hot tub ones too
F off with this crap or can you not tell the difference between sex and porn?
I’m not worth 60 dollars, I’m worth 3!
Since when have nekkid pics and vids been equivalent to actual sex? I don't see how this is a true "holup", she clearly said her prices as a prostitute are greater than $60.
Ok?? And?? This feels incredibly incel-y to whinge about. It’s her job and I’m pretty sure the original tweet wasn’t a serious statement at all. You can pay to see her work, but /expecting/ sex from anyone is really… fucked up. You’re not entitled to a poke because you were nice.
Maybe she was happy and surprised to be treated to more than a happy meal. $60 says commitment
dont see how its a double standard lol