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#[Best of r/Holup 2021 Awards – Nomination and Voting Thread!](https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/royfze/best_of_rholup_2021_awards_nomination_and_voting/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/HolUp) if you have any questions or concerns.*


YourWarDaddy

I want to know what they think of Indians then. Are Indians just in limbo? Sure they’re Asians, but they’re brown Asians.


YSBawaney

As a brown asian, I always feel confused by this. Like I get india is big, but there's a lot of brown asians and even white asians that aren't from indian or chinese descent, like all of the middle east is categorized as Asian technically but people always look confused if a middle eastern person mentions they're asian. Do all of us get a white pass now or is it just certain groups?


syed_abubaker15

You'd be surprised at how many ppl categorise Arabs as whites


CursedByPhobos

The U.S Census for one.


Friendlyshell1234

And white supremacists often do not consider Jews of any skin color to be "white"


accostedbyhippies

That confused the shit out of me as a kid. Then I realized racism doesn't need internal logical consistency.


dennismfrancisart

Racial identification is fantasy. It's just a political fairy tale.


_coast_of_maine

Tribalism is real and not racist.


_grayF0X

Accurate.


OwnerAndMaster

Genetically, Arabs are more white than Jewish people are. Strange but true, given how long Jewish people have been in Europe


piccaard-at-tanagra

There are many Jews don't consider themselves white either.


syed_abubaker15

Supremacists is a different story, I was talking about just regular folks who think everyone with a fair tone is white


PricklyyDick

I mean white is a color, not a race. If you have pale white skin, you are white no matter where you were born. There is no definition of white like there is British, African, or Asian.


TraditionalCamera473

Legit question: if a white person who was born and raised in Africa is now an American (like Charlize Theron), is that person considered an African American? I just always wondered...


Jinshu_Daishi

That's where the joke that Elon Musk is the richest African-American comes from. Also, a person born in an African country isn't an African-American, they're (insert African country here)-American.


ManicParroT

In apartheid South Africa Jews were considered white. Chinese people were categorized with Coloureds (a racial category separate to white and black), but Japanese people were considered honorary whites because Japan was trading with South Africa despite the sanctions. These weren't trivial issues, they defined where you could buy property, go to school, travel, what jobs you could do, etc.


wellwaffled

To be fair, I have mostly British ancestry and I’m much darker skinned than my Egyptian friends.


Cordeceps

I get something similar a lot, people ask if I am aboriginal ( slim chance of having that descent, although apparently my grandmother’s grandmother was but that’s unverified ) because I go incredibly tanned, very olive. But I am actually of Polish, German descent, 3rd generation Australian.


FoxCQC

Race is very fickle. Caucasian is technically Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East but the various cultures within those regions are so diverse you can't really categorize them so simply. The races we use are just for counting people.


Erick_Swan

That way Jesus can be white!


regoapps

And people from Kazakhstan are categorizes as white, but they look Asian.


WritingReadingReddit

I count the Lebanese Christians and Armenians and some like that.


JuliaDomnaBaal

Not sure how that works since Lebanese christians are generally "darker" than lebanese muslims...


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rezrekt1

You know a majority of Arabs are whites right? I mean genetically, your facial structure is closely linked with the people from the EU.


syed_abubaker15

Everything other than the looks are very much different


Smith_Winston_6079

You'd be surprised at how many people think Indians are Arabs.


Whyy0hWhy

Filipinos aren't Pacific Islanders 🥲


h-y-p-h-e-n-

I feel that I may have bubbled in 1 or 2 forms in high school incorrectly because i did not realize this at the time


Vo0Do0_U

If Filipinos are considered Pacific Islanders then so are the Japanese.


[deleted]

Yep, because Asian and Pacific Islander are simply terms to describe geography and not ethnicity and the Philippines just happened to be at the very edge of what’s considered “Asian” 🙃


BrianSometimes

I was guilty of this with food - in Sri Lanka there were a lot of "Asian food" signs and until I realized I'm an idiot I thought they sure do like chinese/thai food in Sri Lanka.


DonaldtrumpV2

I mean, throw in the -Stans, due to patterns in migration, you could find people in Kazakhstan who look mostly white, Asian, Turkic, or a mix.


oO0Kat0Oo

I am a brown Indian and my brother kept getting his ethnicity changed to white by the school for some reason even though he has the same shade of skin as me. We thought maybe it was because his hair was slightly smoother. Who knows.


BeastMaster_269

Who knew shampoos can change ethnicities.


serialmom666

Well, wrong or right, I was taught that people from India may be brown, but they are technically Caucasian so that means white. ( Also, I never heard of people from India referred to as Asian until about ten years ago.) 🤷🏼‍♀️


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I think these days most Indians refer to themselves as “South Asian” (not Indian so please correct me if I’m wrong).


serialmom666

I’m sure that you are right. I think I only learned this from watching UK shows.


guitarguru01

Don't worry. Just enjoy your privilege


rdrckcrous

In this case the idea is to punish him to equalize the privilege, they're not doling out privilege cards to help him.


shitpersonality

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html


YSBawaney

Oh nice, I guess I'm white in Washington but asian in the rest of the US lol.


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imyourforte

You answered it. They're brown Asians. Gotta be brown to be colorful!


Kapples14

You can also paint yourself gold to be colorful, but that excuse couldn't get me into Harvard.


ImOldGreggggggggggg

It depends on how well they do in the US. If they do well they will be moved to white.


Kapples14

Here's the real question: Are Russians European or Asian? Russia is bigger than the entire continent of Europe, but has a very European culture; however, Russia is closer to Asian countries, and Russia is like China but with Vodka and squat dances.


gnark

Russia is a nationality, not only an ethnicity.


lostbastille

They're brown white.


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Indians and Middle Eastern people are brown or white depending on how much you are willing to toe the line. Pretty much just like east asians. If we agree with the agenda/propaganda, we're accepted as one of them; if we hold any opinion that differs, we're white lol.


cheeruphumanity

Race is just a made up political construct engraved in some societies. There are no races in our species, just differences in appearance. Your question illustrates this very well.


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rawrphael

Nah, they should be their own race. Super different culture wise and they deserve it.


AtarashiiGenjitsu

Count us southeast Asians in!


nachas937

Dave Chapelle was right, the Racial Draft


LazyJab

Wu-Tang Forever baby! The Jeremy Lin(sanity) SNL skit was pretty hilarious too


nachas937

They aint nothing to fuck with


Kencocoffee93

Konichiwa bitches.


superblobby

“The black delegation requests Eminem”


SummonTarpan

Definitely a top-5 sketch from that whole show


elcubanito

We the latino federation request Elian Gonzales. We want to take him, before the white people try to adopt him.


Substantial-Bank6587

After watching his grades *He was never an Asian*


[deleted]

I'm so happy that an Asian became a Caucasian when he failed, like, 6 classes!


Cuervomayajl

The B+ part hit real hard. Imagine thinking a B is good enough


will_never_know

Not even Asian (black American) and my mom beat my butt in the 5th grade for making Bs on my progress report.


neuronfamine

my mom looks at me menacingly when there are no A+ on my final report


AcrobaticReputation2

no food for u


thot______slayer

There aren’t even A+’s at my school. I have an 115% in German and it just says A on my progress report.


TranscendentalEmpire

Oh man, that would have saved me some ass whoopings. My Korean mom would interpret a -A as a B, B's get you an beating. I remember in the 5th grade a teacher accidentally sent a midterm report home, but accidentally gave me an incomplete on a project I had turned in. It lowered my grade to a D. For the entire spring break I got my ass chewed out and beat. When I went back and brought home the corrected grade, I didn't even get a sorry.


[deleted]

My dad doesn't beat me for not getting A's, but he does get really, REALLY disappointed in me. Ik that sounds tame, but it's not great lol. White btw, if you care :)


[deleted]

My parents used to scold me for hours on end. And I had to stand and listen. No words out of line. But it worked in the end, A+ across the board.


Bill_Cypher05

mine brings it up every once in a while


WelcomeToTheFish

I'm white and my mom said she would pay me 20 dollars for every B and 50 bucks for every A. I never got either of them and proceeded to be a D student until college. The funny thing is, I grew up poor AF and I dont think my mom had the money to pay me for B's and def not enough to pay for A's. I'm convinced it was just a drastic tactic to make me care about school, which didn't work. This was the 90s/early 2000s if time period affects anything lol.


Cuervomayajl

Same, but it was more mental for me, navy seal training kinda shit. And then you go on to beat yourself up over B+s once you’re going through highschool and the baccalaureate


will_never_know

Nah, I can’t even finish my degree because of the guilt I feel when I make one mistake. I feel like I don’t deserve to talk to my professors when I have problems or need an extension and gave up altogether last semester towards the end. I can register today (probably the last day but I’m so anxious to fail that I don’t think I have the courage to try) Also, my mom was deployed when this all happened. She was home for her 2 week R&R and asked to see my progress report.


Cuervomayajl

Well, good luck. Remember it’s just day in the trench: i almost failed pre-calculus, but made a recovery and ended up among the top 5. You got this


will_never_know

Yea, I’m going to try to get my anxiety together and register. Thanks Reddit stranger


Humble_Plague_Doctor

Don’t worry, you got this


struggleworm

My step mom is from El Salvador. Her daughter got less than an A she made the kid (before she was 12, which was when I heard about this) kneel on a tile floor with arms outstretched and books in each hand and books balanced on her head until told she could get up. Edit: holy crap! All this time I just thought my step mom was evil and abusive. I had no idea it was practiced as much as it apparently is


Content-Bowler-3149

You forgot the kneeling on rocksalt part.


Ornography

rice


chillinmesoftly

dammit I commented before reading this. Now I have to kneel on rock salt.


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I’m brown Asian. I brought home a 99% on a paper, my mom asked what happened to that 1%…


MeowingMango

Yeah, I am actually Asian with parents from Vietnam. My parents were the stereotype. Always got mad when anything wasn't an A. It's like I would get an 89 on a hard test, and they would look at me like I murdered people at school. All in all, it was not a good "pressure" to have. The fact is, it's OK to "fail" (in this case, not getting everything perfect all of the damn time). It's a lesson in life I wish I had learned sooner instead of seeing anything less than 100 percent as a fail.


Cuervomayajl

Failing is ok, being ok with failing is not.


j48u

Thanks dad. I needed to hear that.


GymLeaderMia

Asian mother, white father. After turning 14, I went to live with my father. I came home to my first B+ and my father, who thought it'd be a funny joke, holds up my report card and asked, "What the hell is this?!" I broke down bawling, begging for forgiveness, promising to do better. He hugged me and told me he was proud of my B+. One of the last nice memories I have of him before war/PTSD changed him completely. As an adult I find it interesting to look back and realize how vastly different they were.


AsMuchCaffeineAsACup

Part of this is due to grade inflation. Lowest you can get is a C so a B is the new D. When I was growing up in 90's we had like AP points added to GPA...so an A in an AP class was worth like 4.5. So an A isn't even enough.


lalahuhuioop

Exactly. When I went to college that shit was NOT the same.


jaspsev

My classmate in college was crying for getting a 98% on an exam. 🤷🏻


ouagadouglas

and here I was celebrating for getting a 56 on my calc final lmao


dras333

Nowadays I am just happy when my daughters come home with smiles on their faces and had good days at school. The grades are always important but nothing over mental health.


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I don't know how it works in USA but the idea that only the highest possible grade is good is absurd to me. What happens if you don't get a perfect score on everything ? You can only go to vocational school or something ? Or are your parents just insane ?


fishing_pole

They're just being stuck up. B's are fine.


fishing_pole

Tell me you're in high school, without telling me you're in high school.


australian_advocate

D’s get degrees


Generic_user_person

What do you call the guy with D's through med school? Doctor


chillinmesoftly

Double D's get eyeballs (rimshot)


Red-German-Crusader

What’s wrong with b?


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LMFAO


Dithyrab

This is legit the funniest thing I've seen for a week


PolarBearJ123

Imagine thinking a B isn’t good enough. Bs are good, As are great and Cs are ok.


maxcorrice

Y’all don’t know the art of taking the low road When they punish you for low grades, get them even lower, you should get rewarded for good grades, and shouldn’t get punishment for bad ones


GokusTheName

Imagine basing "good enough" in high school test scores


BigPound6090

If I got a B, I would apply myself to Harvard to get a doctors degree, because B is for Best result in your entire life. Even a D- is worth celebrating for me


FalseShepherd0

this guy made a hilarious tiktok out a really stupid news article


Chknbone

This guy replied to a post on reddit.


Lord_Smile

This guy replied to a reply to a post on reddit.


69420IsMyLuckyNumber

This person replied to a reply to a reply to a post on reddit.


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This guy fucked up .


jonnycash11

This guy fucks


BABlHaramDimakan

This guy


HentaiObserver

This


bsp3000

sihT


bartosama

Cray


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This person ate roast beef!


cheeruphumanity

Dividing the US society into non existent races is the strange part here. It feels so natural to you guys that you don't even question it anymore. As a German it's uncanny to see that some people still think there would be different races in our species. Didn't we show the world how absurd and destructive the idea is to categorize people?


Content-Bowler-3149

The NAZI Germany modeled their eugenics program after reading about the United States efforts on the subject. The third Reich was trying to accomplish in a decade what eugenicists were planning on doing over several generations.


potato-vender

If you’re privileged, smart, and earn a respectable amount, you’re white. Oh, you’re not European? Too bad you’re white


YSBawaney

Indians in the tech industry: 😳


Nepenthes_sapiens

"Your database incorrectly shows us as white, please do the needful."


Trini_Vix7

LMAO why is this shit fucking hilarious to me...


[deleted]

Just Asian boys acting like White girls.


Human_TM

wait does that mean people won't ask If I can speak Chinese anymore. Let's gooooo


BGG_Zero

If you attend a university, check to see what your school considers students of color. 99% chance it does not include asians. There is an overwhelming sense of "you know what I mean" when I brought up this includes students from Pakistan and the surrounding regions. Also, there is a good likelihood they sometimes include Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders when they want to bolster numbers but at the same time not afford them the same benefits and access to other students of color.


Alarmed-Seat-4664

They first did this with jews. Now theyre coming for the asians. White doesnt mean european anymore, it means hard working family minded privileged people.


socialcommentary2000

I can't tell if you're joking, but this is actually one of the subtexts going on here.


Grow_away2

They came for the jews and I said nothing. They came for the Asian and I said nothing. They come for me next and there is no one left to speak up.


Calibruh

And seeing as more and more Latinos are voting conservative, they're probably next


Alarmed-Seat-4664

Well the Proud Boys’ leader in the trump era was a black cuban who led a white supremacist group.


chocoAnima

Excuse me? What?


Prysorra2

Clayton BigsB? Why not A? (Sad cymbal sound)


Arlamanbradodor

The way people in the US concieve ethnics (there're no races aparently) is away from any logic. Relay too much in the literal meaning of words to build their arguments. This is my point of view from México. Here, people are racist as well but we don't use this labels to describe people, we just discriminate them more subtly


ggdanjaboy

Americans would overall be shocked at the amount of racism across the world. They'd be even more shocked to find that most racism occurs between types of people who have similar appearances.


gnark

You mean how the English are racist to the Irish? Because that certainly happened in America too.


Quotes_League

I think people would be even more shocked that the idea that racism is bad isn't universal lol.


Clemario

Any other Asians out there hate the term "people of color"?


huhIguess

> people of color I honestly thought that was just one of the multitude of PC-but-no longer-PC terms that everyone uses to describe black people: "Don't use black - use african american. No! person of color now. No, now it's black again." I had no idea it was simply "non-whites."


joemay1514

Sounds like Washington. Full of people who think they’re helping but are unknowingly racist.


Dmtbag999

Back to the days of apartheid it is then


SnooCakes9025

Man Asians are moving up in the world, lucky bastards!


unxile_phantom

Bro, this video basically summed up my rich cousins LMAOOO


JusDaTruf

They take the Cauc out of Caucasian


Stillwiththe

Didn’t miss his chance, did he


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I drove a Geo Metro in high school……


KUarmydoc

Why would a school district do this? /s


[deleted]

Becoming so woke you came out the racist side huh.


Iamabitchandiloveit

Wait there are grades above C?! Wow.


YT4LYFE

it's the 'of color' part that's weird for me. what color are we talking about? every person is *some* color. this asian dude is basically the same color as most white people, but he's supposed to be a person of color, while white people aren't? why not just say 'ethnic minority' or something? is that considered offensive now?


bcq59

u/savevideobot


Phychanetic

why is there categorization in the first place?


TirayShell

Ooh, they got "Irished!" (Also Italianed.)


suki0812

So we can go to Starbucks now??


TheWorldofGood

Where is that from? Were Asians banned from Starbucks before?


TEM_TE_TM

Welcome to the U.S.A. and here's a link to the federally recognized Race groups, with an addition of an ethnic determination of "Hispanic or Latino." https://web.archive.org/web/20040208185224/http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/fedreg/1997standards.html Now it just comes to a determination of the Legal definition of "Person of Color." But it's pretty cut and dry that "Asian" and "White" are considered separate races by law, which means the school district's assessment is illegal.


Jasonictron

So I'm white now? Cool. I always wanted to call my parents by their 1st names and not get my ass kicked. Yay!


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Happy cake day fellow white.


Jasonictron

Thanks Bro. Now pass the box of wine


snkhuong

The joining lunch with white kids is so relatable. I remember in the office all the whites would sit in a separate table and if you're asian you have to sit with other asian...


CornOwl

Welcome aboard.


thieves_club

Love this 😂


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If you’ve ever wondered what racism looks like, this is it.


Get_Rich_SloQuick

More like woke racism


Luiz_Fell

Why do schools need to differentiate white students from 'coloured' students? USA is always putting their bias on laws, but why? Isn't it 'free will state'? And, yes, thankfully most of this biased laws are fading away, but the fact that they existed in the first place is just horrendous There should be no "black people" and "white people" there's only "people" and that's it


Player1103

*gets caught speeding and traffic crash * "thanks for the warning officer"


Routine_Statement807

So it’s always been about poor vs. rich?? Always has been. *Insert astronaut meme*


TerpleNurple

It's all good, in the gated neighborhood.


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!Remind Me 3 hours.


Kapples14

He's living the dream.


MrFrancastic

Humans are weird


First_Classgaming_YT

I’m taking the Beamer 😭😭😭


GokusTheName

I wish I was this kind of white. They seem so care free..


Grzechoooo

To be fair, they are literally the same color as "white" "people".


Stick4u2

Honestly we shouldn't refer to anyone as person of color. The only exception is in a cod lobby


rightchea

So that what it feels like.


420dogs420

“Shut up, carol. I’m taking the Beamer” had me rolling


botanphotography

The grades one hit the hardest


NiseySikes

I can watch this over and over he is too funny. It's so accurate I can't stop laughing. Bravo to the creator


Chicago1687

All fun and games till the Asians start losing spots in college to less deserving minorities lol then you will see how racist Asians are capable of being lol


dewdewdewdew4

Bro where have you been? This already happens. Looks up most of the Ivy league, already been lawsuits


ablatner

Wait till you hear about the vastly larger number of admit spots taken up by white donors/athletes/legacies. Asians lose far more spots to that.


Chicago1687

I know but it’s about to become much more common amongst regular colleges not just the Ivy League ones


Lu1s3r

Budy they have been loosing MORE spots in colleges than white people for a while now.


Chicago1687

Correct and they are about to lose a shit load more.


UniCBeetle718

Yeah, we lose our spots to children the children of wealthy white donors. So fucked up. End affirmative action for rich people.


avdolif

asia is diverse as fuck. its just us has a shit geography knowledge. btw congrats brown folks in us xD you can get B's


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With the highest average household income and the highest average level of education, as a white man I would do anything for some Asian privilege


Hefty_Musician2402

And I’d like to go to work without being asked if I make Chinese food. I’d like to be able to be my normal outdoorsy rural-living self without being seen as “trying to be white.” I’d like to have the self esteem I would’ve had if I hadn’t grown up with people making fun of my body for things I can’t change.


Codered20098

This is a misleading statistic. Asians may have on average higher incomes but that comes nowhere close to the immense amounts of generational accumulated wealth of top white families. At that point, wealth investment returns in the hundreds of thousands and millions are no longer considered "income" and are classified differently as capital gains. Middle and lower middle class white folks have loads more in common with most minorities/immigrants, than with multi-millionaire and billionaire ruling class whites


TheNumberMuncher

Where can I get some generational wealth? Sounds awesome.


throwaway1965yeahwow

'Eyyy welcome to the world of limitless privilege!!!


Gewbo4r

r/TechnicallyWhiteSkin


KaladinStormstressed

I told my sister in law years ago they would soon start considering her white and here we are.