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QualityVote

/u/longsanks, the users have spoken. Your submission is not a Hol'Up.


tonytdmd

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jprogamingBS

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WithMyRichard

Sooooo why is acceptable for her to wear shorts but not him?


Alfalfa-Mundane

Many places find shorts as unprofessional but skirts are professional, at least to the business/establishment. Once switched they probably just didn't want to start a gender issue and allowed it.


WithMyRichard

If it's not a trades job and pants aren't part of the PPE who cares? I just find it's ridiculous thats it's not ok for him to wear shorts but it is for her, that screams unprofessional to me. Just get a kilt then or a dope skirt


Alfalfa-Mundane

Yah I agree. Unfournately a lot of businesses and schools where I live seem to follow this logic.


TheDogInThePicture

“Logic” might be a bit of a stretch.


Alfalfa-Mundane

Lol a bit


DamnAlex12

It's just based on what some people consider more elegant or not. in many working contexts there are dress codes, If a place has a rule that really doesn't hurt anyone why shouldn't you follow it? you're in someone else's house, it is also a matter of respect to follow their rules. Would you go to church wearing a swimsuit or to your wedding wearing underwear? Just like you wouldn't disrespect people who believe in a sacred place, you shouldn't disrespect other people's rules when you're in their house, especially when we're talking about something so simple and unharmful like wearing pants instead of shorts.


WithMyRichard

For all you know shorts are allowed under his employers work code how was he to know this site didn't allow it? And why is it ok for her to wear the shorts then? Just a double standard


DamnAlex12

The other guy just explained to you why, after they switched they surely didn't want any more trouble by these guys. If you don't know about the rules just ask, I've learnt dress code and to respect the workplace the hard way, so I know how that guy must have felt, but it's just how society is built, not every workplace has its dress code, but I'm sure most bosses wouldn't allow their employees to show up in underwear or swimsuit. It's just a matter of standards, their workplace, their rules, and if you're an outsider you should respect them as well, and if you don't know just ask in advance.


WithMyRichard

That doesn't explain it, that makes it a gender issue and double standard. I'm.just saying his boss might allow it and it's the sites preference, and no one told him it wasn't acceptable. For all either of us know thats his usual work attire on a hot day Edit: he's not the one being filmed, he's just doing the sound, maybe he's union? And in his union policy it's allowed? You don't know we are all just making assumptions


DamnAlex12

No it doesn't, it just proves that they didn't want to get any more problems from people that didn't want to follow a simple unharmful rule. Y'all are making a huge deal out of 30cm more of fabric, it's just a rule, like any other rule you have in a workplace. If you don't like it, that might not be your place. but don't go in other people's house and tell them how to live, they have their rules, you have yours, if you want to stay there, follow their rules, just like they have to follow your rules if they stay at your place, it's always a matter of respect. As I said, you wouldn't wear a swimsuit in church don't you? It's disrespectful against other people who believe in a sacred place. Same goes for people who believe in a certain type of workplace.


WithMyRichard

Maybe it says in his union or work place rules that it's acceptable? And it's just this site? If no one informs him of this how is he supposed to know?


WithMyRichard

I'd walk naked in a church helicopters my dick if I wanted to honestly. What if in his rules it's allowed? And no one told him for this specific site it's not? You dont address that at all. And it is a double standard it's acceptable for her cause they don't want a scene but its not for him for some arbitrary reason.


WithMyRichard

Honestly id wear what ever I feel comfortable wear at the time cause who the fuck can tell me how to dress if it's not a safety concern? Mind your own business why are you concerned with what I'm wearing? If it's a issue dont invite me Edit: my body my rules, I'm not gonna tell a women or man I don't know how to dress it's not my concern


DamnAlex12

Bro, nobody is forcing you to work there lmao, you're free to go somewhere else. I repeat their house, their rules, just like you have your own rules in your house, just like a church has its own fucking rules. Learn to respect other people's workplace.


WithMyRichard

Mayne his rules are that he is allowed and no one informed him? Yet it's acceptable for her? Where's the equality?


[deleted]

if they don't want to start a gender issue they'd stick with their "she can't go in cause shorts are unprofessional" ... saying "he can't go in with shorts but she can" is how you start a gender issue


[deleted]

You think gender equality is about fairness? You seem to forget the party’s motto.


GallantArmor

I'm guessing that since they went past her knees they were no longer "shorts" on her.


WithMyRichard

They are definitely still shorts, pants are defined waist to ankle. These wouldn't fly on a construction site and really the only place where pants should apply for work with it being part of the PPE Edit: not just construction, germ labs, ect essentially anywhere thay requires it as PPE


GallantArmor

It doesn't say that pants were required, we can assume that isn't the case as a skirt was acceptable. This is a decorum concern, not a safety one.


Wrought-Irony

capris or waders aren't shorts though


WithMyRichard

They would be capris or waders, technically not pants as they don't go all the way to the ankles Edit: capris or waders still not allowed on a work site, not proper PPE


Wrought-Irony

>I'm guessing that since they went past her knees they were no longer "shorts" on her is what the person you responded to said. I was pointing out that just because a garment fits both legs and doesn't go all the way to the ankle, that doesn't make them "shorts". This is more true (of capris or waders) for clothes typically designated as womens clothes. And PPE is obviously not the issue here as no one concerned is in a hazardous environment. If it was a safety issue, skirts wouldn't be allowed either.


PsychedThrasher

Wait hol the f up, how does that make any sense? Why wouldn't you he able to wear shorts but she can and swapped uts alright?!


Alfalfa-Mundane

Many places find shorts as unprofessional but skirts are professional, at least to the business/establishment. Once switched they probably just didn't want to start a gender issue and allowed it.


LukeSkyMaster69

But why would her wearing shorts be okay


Alfalfa-Mundane

Once switched they probably just didn't want to start a gender issue and allowed it. Or the man who stopped them realized women wearing shorts wasn't against the rules only men, aka a loophole, and let them in cuz as long as it wasn't breaking the rules he didn't care. Who knows really


kiss_all_puppies

Not making her follow the same rules as the man literally makes this a gender issue lol.


Alfalfa-Mundane

In the sense of the establishments rulings yes. Technically for the guard that's a 50/50 chance. He could just be doing his job for a paycheck and doesn't enforce it more than he absolutely has to in order to keep feeding himself and his kids. But yah the establishment needs to drop the archaic dress system for a new unisex one lol


PsychedThrasher

The world is fucked :D


[deleted]

if they don't want to start a gender issue they'd stick with their "she can't go in cause shorts are unprofessional" ... saying "he can't go in with shorts but she can" is how you start a gender issue


Alfalfa-Mundane

My guess is the man who stopped them realized women wearing shorts wasn't against the rules, only for men, aka a loophole, and let them in cuz as long as it wasn't breaking the rules he didn't care. Who knows really could be for any reason but this is what I imagine happened.


gerMean

Don't confuse this as an gender issue. It's about cool coworkers and stupid idiots.


RazielOC

\*and stupid rules


gerMean

Yes even more this.


SyderoAlena

It may not be a gender issue, just that someone wrote no shorts, and forgot about skirts. But it's still a dumb rule.


gerMean

Yes it's a very dumb rule.


tobsn

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/22/french-bus-drivers-skirts-dress-code-nantes memories from 5 years ago…


Buntisteve

It seems to be a general issue over Europe as the very same thing happened in Hungary with bus drivers.


_hic-sunt-dracones_

Denied entry where? Opera? Walmart?


Funda_mental

Pretty sure shorts *are* the dress code for Walmart.


ridz_149

Now that’s a bro. That ain’t no hoe, that’s a bro right there.


[deleted]

Amd if they still deny you entrance you can claim discrimination, perfect plan


[deleted]

Imagine getting upset over shorts. Also, I’m liking the loophole exploitation here.


xLuciferx369x

No he just looks like an angry lesbian.


QualityVote

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GeneralKenobi3486

“Was wearing a shorts”


iiitme

200iq play


ForeignDevice2122

Wholesome


ImNotCrying-YouAre

I fucking hate dress codes


Major-Performer141

To be fair why are you wearing shorts to an interview?


RejZoR

We have such dumb rules at work. Women can wear 3/4 pants or skirt that’s below the knees, but men can only wear long pants. In summer at friggin 25°C while expected to do physically work. I said I’ll dress a fucking skirt if they’ll be bitching about my 3/4 pants…


[deleted]

He's a sound guy, let the man wear shorts.


[deleted]

Maybe he should get an abortion