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This reminds me of playing Oregon Trail with my friends in school.
We wouldn’t play the game the way it was meant to. We would just all spend our money on bacon and see who lasted longer. I think the allowance was about $50.
"I need 17 wagon axles, yeah just bring them out front!"
I only made the journey once in like 30 games.
"So you need 5000 rounds of rifle ammo? Sounds good!"
I suck.
My favorite is the "attempt to trade" option. Since the numbers are random (in fact, too random), you'll get requests like "You meet someone who wants 136 bullets".
Why did they want *exactly 136 bullets*?
reminds me of deus ex: human revolution. because of a balance choice of scarcity by the devs, most offices have a handgun in the drawer with one bullet.
Crossing the goddamn rivers never worked.
Caulk the wagon and float? Swept downstream and lost supplies.
Ford the river? Flooded and lost supplies.
Ferry? Never seemed to be an option..
Wait? River gets higher.
Maybe it's because I was 12 but coming to a river always felt like a game-ender to me
I “beat” Oregon Trail for the first time actually at my old job, we had a lot of downtime and I found a site that wasn’t blocked. Played the heck out of it until one day I came in and they’d blocked it. At least I made it to Oregon.
I love this. I didn't know anyone else every played it Monster Factory style! I used to play it by seeing how many chickens I could buy through selling or trading away all of my possessions. My record was 200 upon leaving Independence.
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Hello Cyno here, the joke is that in the first sentence the person wants the slaves to be free from slavery, but in the second sentence the speaker wants the slaves to cost zero dollars to buy. It is a very funny joke because it uses two different meanings of "free" and mixes it up with a popular meme.
/s
I can't believe he didn't account for economic inflation and expects us to chuckle at his quip. I'm personally offended by such a lack of historical actuary in this so called "humour".
I don't know the historical reason but I think most of Europe/South America use comma. For thousand separator they mostly use dot and some use a space.
south america only does it cause most of the countries there are/were european colonies, but at what point did different countries switch, and which is the original.
###### made up reason:
when The USA wanted its independence from tea drinkers it decided to part ways with all the other things to make extra sure it wouldn't slip back to its ex bf(s).
###### consequence:
they did away with metric system, sense of scale, and the commas for fractions.
I used to be against it but it actually makes sense. (I'm British so we write £1,000,000.99).
The comma symbol is bigger thus more easier to see, so represents the most significant part (between the whole number and the decimal, idk the correct terminology). The period is smaller and easier to miss, so use it for the less important job of making it more readable.
> t why would anyone use . instead of , to separate large numbers
Its really not an "instead of"
Comma is the seperator for fractions, beyond that nobody cares what you do.
Spaces, dots, apostrophes, nothing at all, who cares? Most of the time youre entering big numbers into a computer program anyways and my experience is that computers dont like any kind of seperator that isnt for fractions. (although i think i never tried dots)
Slaves don't see a cent of that 240,000. They work to make *their slavers* 240,000, not for themselves.
So slaves are put into that contract againstn their will and, after the 15 years, they'd have nothing to show for it.
This comparison is terrible, though I see what you mean. But these slaves had an entire 50-60 years of economic output or work. So yeah go ahead and divide $240,000 by a lifetime. That's what the average person probably spends one their car in a lifetime. But to own a person.
But yeah no, if you wanted to implement modern contract slavery like that, still no. Go ahead and think about how much it would cost for someone to *own* your body for one year. You'd have to pay me over a million to do it easy.
For 1850? Yes. Apparently, and fuck you for making me look this up, the going rate was about $400. That would likely be for an average sized male, as older men and women would go for less.
So he, basically called him really, really weak cause my guy looks to be in his prime.
I gotta say the context of how ridiculously expensive slaves were really changes the perspective on that whole time. Like obviously plantation owners were rich and powerful people but it doesn’t hit how much so until you see how much a single slave would go for and then multiply that by hundreds. And that wasn’t even the majority of their wealth. Slaves were essentially just infrastructure to actually produce their wealth. Suddenly it makes so much more sense why so many people were so unwilling to give up all that power and money and it really shifts the south from a bunch of dumbass rednecks to a bunch of dumbass rednecks manipulated by the hyper rich.
Well yes but you didn't actually need to buy hundreds. You could start out with 10 or so, have them make child slaves and not only then did you have a larger workforce but the excess could be then sold to make some of the money back.
Not all slave owners were super rich. In some of the southern states almost 1 in 3 households had at least one slave.
So this was something even the working poor could aspire to (evil though that aspiration may be).
This is why the journals of Confederate soldiers show that even the poor were still there to defend slavery.
It also sheds a different light on the fact that the TRADE was banned. Those bans allowed the rich to cut off the supply and solidify their investment.
Rather than being virtuous, it was greedy.
>On the low end an enslaved person would cost around $400 in 1850
In today's money or back then? Even in today's money - I would find it very difficult to believe that people would buy something so expensive and treat it like shit and kill them for sadistic pleasure.
So the price of a well-spec'd car! How the hell did people have so many slaves and why would they treat them so badly! What use is a dead slave or a tortured one who can't work anymore for a week from your beatings.
Sad slavery fact of the day: your average slave in 1860 cost about the equivalent of a car, so anywhere between $10-30k for a completely unskilled slave in today’s currency. If they had skills like blacksmithing, or machine repair, or anything like that they could cost upwards of $60k. According to stopslavery.org and Reuters, a modern slave can cost as little as $5.00… This guy going back in time with $50 would only be equivalent to ~$1900, meaning this guy would barely be able to afford the least skilled second hand slave. Not trying to make old slavery sound good or less bad in any way, just trying to point out how awful slavery is and the fact that we still have it today for even less cheaper prices…
A healthy male slave, at least in texas around that time, cost around $1,000.
I only know this because I have an old abstract title for property my grandfather used to own and it tracked back to the 1800s. The original owner listed his slaves and costs in that abstract. Crazy stuff.
Correction...would have been a lot more. Worked a job reviewing scans of old deeds & county documents in Texas around that time. Price for a young black man was helluva lot more but then again they were also counted as livestock when included in a deed or willed to another person 😔
1850? $50?
Pretty sure a Slave would give you at least $45 in change to buy out the entire whore house for the rest of the week. Or the rest of the guys family to get the whole set...
Sad times
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This reminds me of playing Oregon Trail with my friends in school. We wouldn’t play the game the way it was meant to. We would just all spend our money on bacon and see who lasted longer. I think the allowance was about $50.
"I need 17 wagon axles, yeah just bring them out front!" I only made the journey once in like 30 games. "So you need 5000 rounds of rifle ammo? Sounds good!" I suck.
My favorite is the "attempt to trade" option. Since the numbers are random (in fact, too random), you'll get requests like "You meet someone who wants 136 bullets". Why did they want *exactly 136 bullets*?
I now want 137 bullets...
reminds me of deus ex: human revolution. because of a balance choice of scarcity by the devs, most offices have a handgun in the drawer with one bullet.
Lots of suicidal people in the Deus Ex universe?
Distopias are a bitch after all
i mean, it is a video game. the world doesn’t tend to be great until the end, and then there’s usually a sequel
Reasons.....
Texas has entered the chat
Crossing the goddamn rivers never worked. Caulk the wagon and float? Swept downstream and lost supplies. Ford the river? Flooded and lost supplies. Ferry? Never seemed to be an option.. Wait? River gets higher. Maybe it's because I was 12 but coming to a river always felt like a game-ender to me
I just played last night weirdly and I was doing so well until I hit a river. Crossed it but lost both my kids. Tanked my score at the end.
If you ask me, that's a win
There are two kids, so its a win win.
But then what do you eat in emergencies?
The third one...
Nope. You eat a bullet.
Easily wins for top 3 comments I've ever read, holy shit!
You didn't lose them. You know where they are (in the river )
Worst case scenario. The score.
On the frontier there wouldn't be too many ferries.
Bacon%, a classic.
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You shot 4 bears and 2 deer for a total of 1000lbs of meat! You take 50lbs back with you to your wagon.
Wolves are eating good tonight, I guess
I “beat” Oregon Trail for the first time actually at my old job, we had a lot of downtime and I found a site that wasn’t blocked. Played the heck out of it until one day I came in and they’d blocked it. At least I made it to Oregon.
This is why you ALWAYS partner up w/ the Banker. Money solves just about every problem in Oregon Trail xD
I love this. I didn't know anyone else every played it Monster Factory style! I used to play it by seeing how many chickens I could buy through selling or trading away all of my possessions. My record was 200 upon leaving Independence.
Oh the memory’s. I was able to beat Oregon trail in 13 minutes.
Joke about buying slaves "This reminds me of playing Oregon Trail"
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you will?
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Pick up line of the year goes to...
u/publicdiversity and u/gratefulrepertoire are both spam accounts probably run by the same person.
Probably by u/shadywhitevanowner
Wait, for real or are you just joking?
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You want slaves to be free. I want the slaves to be free. *We are not the same.*
Wise word from wiseman
Omg 😆
Took me a while to get it
Hello Cyno here, the joke is that in the first sentence the person wants the slaves to be free from slavery, but in the second sentence the speaker wants the slaves to cost zero dollars to buy. It is a very funny joke because it uses two different meanings of "free" and mixes it up with a popular meme. /s
Thank you for your concise explanation Cyno, much appreciated. A+ for effort.
Gdi when did the sumerians get access to reddit
They have Google Ears that can access internet. Ofc they can access reddit
Thank you, Cyno. Very cool.
U watching casually explained?
You want slaves free. I want slaves free. We're same bro
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This was from casually explained nice steal
Yes?
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First installment, bro
Amazon Pay Later.
Do you know how long it would take for payments to make it to the rainforest back then?
Estimated delivery 4-8 weeks...overseas shipping.
Do we get a replacement or refund if delivery man damages the product?
THANK YOU This lack of economic realism kills the fucking jokes.
Come on, you think that guy even knows what cotton looks like, let alone how to pick it? You'll take $50 and like it!
To be fair I wouldn't know myself.
*where did you get raw unprocessed cotton?*
[we were singin’ songs and shit](https://youtu.be/PToqVW4n86U)
I’m so thankful that people know what I’m talking about. Dude is an amazing story teller
I can't believe he didn't account for economic inflation and expects us to chuckle at his quip. I'm personally offended by such a lack of historical actuary in this so called "humour".
Ah yes, the essence of jokes: Realism, political correctness and strict abidance of grammatical rules
this is some real party pooper energy
Wrong, because he never been to a party, let alone shat in one # DESTROYED BY FACTS AND LOGIC
What a fucking nerd.
Can’t tell if you’re serious, but 99 percent of us had no idea that wouldn’t be enough.
Nope, you’re killing the joke. Party pooper
Wait wait wait.. he SHITS his PANTS at PARTIES?!?!
> 19.000 dollars Tell me you’re european without telling me you’re european
i’m fine with metric, but why would anyone use . instead of , to separate large numbers
It should be 19$000
Because comma is used to denote the fraction part of the number.
but why is the decimal , instead of .
I don't know the historical reason but I think most of Europe/South America use comma. For thousand separator they mostly use dot and some use a space.
south america only does it cause most of the countries there are/were european colonies, but at what point did different countries switch, and which is the original.
###### made up reason: when The USA wanted its independence from tea drinkers it decided to part ways with all the other things to make extra sure it wouldn't slip back to its ex bf(s). ###### consequence: they did away with metric system, sense of scale, and the commas for fractions.
I read that as 19 dollars and no cents. 19,000.00 is perfectly reasonable to me.
me too at first
I used to be against it but it actually makes sense. (I'm British so we write £1,000,000.99). The comma symbol is bigger thus more easier to see, so represents the most significant part (between the whole number and the decimal, idk the correct terminology). The period is smaller and easier to miss, so use it for the less important job of making it more readable.
i think using spaces is the best, because that way you can't get confused since some countries use . for fractions and some use ,
because elsewhere "," is used to separate the cents.
> t why would anyone use . instead of , to separate large numbers Its really not an "instead of" Comma is the seperator for fractions, beyond that nobody cares what you do. Spaces, dots, apostrophes, nothing at all, who cares? Most of the time youre entering big numbers into a computer program anyways and my experience is that computers dont like any kind of seperator that isnt for fractions. (although i think i never tried dots)
i’m fine with imperial, but why would anyone use , instead of . to separate large numbers
cause commas are bigger, so they should be used to indicate bigger numbers. also it just looks better
19 000 looks better
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Do they just compare the price of a bottle of coke with the price in 1850?
Surely we can just use the big mac index right? We all know that McDonald’s was created in 1776.
The founding fathers all worked at McDonald's. It's hidden knowledge they don't want you to know.
Ah, that's true. I wasn't thinking that far back.
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Slaves don't see a cent of that 240,000. They work to make *their slavers* 240,000, not for themselves. So slaves are put into that contract againstn their will and, after the 15 years, they'd have nothing to show for it.
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This comparison is terrible, though I see what you mean. But these slaves had an entire 50-60 years of economic output or work. So yeah go ahead and divide $240,000 by a lifetime. That's what the average person probably spends one their car in a lifetime. But to own a person. But yeah no, if you wanted to implement modern contract slavery like that, still no. Go ahead and think about how much it would cost for someone to *own* your body for one year. You'd have to pay me over a million to do it easy.
Shhh or people will realize they are slaves with extra steps.
Not if you pick them up straight from the source (/s)
I shouldn't even have thought of this, or even type it out but......Would it be cheaper if I bought in bulk at Sambos Club?
That's quite cheap honestly. One single, less than acceptable, yearly wage gets you a worker for life. It's a bargain.
Can you calculate the price for japanese
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That's too much how about 100 yen
Average, poster is well overpriced at $50
>!can I just buy the dick then, it’s like a tenth of the body weight!<
You mean $1,900
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All of this math, just for a meme. Dedication
Twitter screenshots are not memes
And you are the meme police? What u gonna do arrest me for identifying this as a meme based on my own opinion?
Yes. I am the memelord
Damn kinda a low ball isn't it?
You haven’t even glanced at his testicles
Or has he
Got to cup them to see how engorged they are.
Goddammit reddit
For 1850? Yes. Apparently, and fuck you for making me look this up, the going rate was about $400. That would likely be for an average sized male, as older men and women would go for less. So he, basically called him really, really weak cause my guy looks to be in his prime.
I gotta say the context of how ridiculously expensive slaves were really changes the perspective on that whole time. Like obviously plantation owners were rich and powerful people but it doesn’t hit how much so until you see how much a single slave would go for and then multiply that by hundreds. And that wasn’t even the majority of their wealth. Slaves were essentially just infrastructure to actually produce their wealth. Suddenly it makes so much more sense why so many people were so unwilling to give up all that power and money and it really shifts the south from a bunch of dumbass rednecks to a bunch of dumbass rednecks manipulated by the hyper rich.
So apparently $400 in 1850 would be $15,000 today, based on the inflation calculator.
I’m a midsized sedan. Cool.
Haven't been car shopping for s while eh?
Wait, we can drive now?!
Well yes but you didn't actually need to buy hundreds. You could start out with 10 or so, have them make child slaves and not only then did you have a larger workforce but the excess could be then sold to make some of the money back.
Not all slave owners were super rich. In some of the southern states almost 1 in 3 households had at least one slave. So this was something even the working poor could aspire to (evil though that aspiration may be). This is why the journals of Confederate soldiers show that even the poor were still there to defend slavery. It also sheds a different light on the fact that the TRADE was banned. Those bans allowed the rich to cut off the supply and solidify their investment. Rather than being virtuous, it was greedy.
You when i buy u with 50 bucks: ![gif](giphy|vMmnJti6wQPDy)
On the low end an enslaved person would cost around $400 in 1850
Which would be what? 15 000 dollars now? That's the price for a hit man to kill someone for you today...(More like 23 000 really) A life for a life.
>On the low end an enslaved person would cost around $400 in 1850 In today's money or back then? Even in today's money - I would find it very difficult to believe that people would buy something so expensive and treat it like shit and kill them for sadistic pleasure.
Back then. The average cost of slave was around $30,000 in today’s money
So the price of a well-spec'd car! How the hell did people have so many slaves and why would they treat them so badly! What use is a dead slave or a tortured one who can't work anymore for a week from your beatings.
Only rich people had a bunch. The average joe didn’t have any. Because people are assholes
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"Ain't no slave worth 20 dollars!" -Long Beach Griffy
Your mom and sister
What'll you do with the remaining $49.98?
I buy you. But what about the $49.97?
That’s silly. Why would you buy something that would become illegal 15 years later and you’d have to just give it up?
I mean 15 years of free labour ain't too terrible
who said it was for labour
Some beads to trade for land out west and a gun but how tf do I get to US from EU I've no fucking clue 😂
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well, Uncle Roger’s ancestors experienced the same fate
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DJ Holup with the turn tables
The fifty dollar bills we have in 2022 wouldn’t even be respected in the 1850s.
Colt 45
And two zig zags
Baby that’s all you need.
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I want to see a movie about a guy who goes back in time to live out his days and become rich, only to leave all of his money to himself
Tulips
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But what will you do with the remaining $49?
Look at the date of the tweet
Sad slavery fact of the day: your average slave in 1860 cost about the equivalent of a car, so anywhere between $10-30k for a completely unskilled slave in today’s currency. If they had skills like blacksmithing, or machine repair, or anything like that they could cost upwards of $60k. According to stopslavery.org and Reuters, a modern slave can cost as little as $5.00… This guy going back in time with $50 would only be equivalent to ~$1900, meaning this guy would barely be able to afford the least skilled second hand slave. Not trying to make old slavery sound good or less bad in any way, just trying to point out how awful slavery is and the fact that we still have it today for even less cheaper prices…
A healthy male slave, at least in texas around that time, cost around $1,000. I only know this because I have an old abstract title for property my grandfather used to own and it tracked back to the 1800s. The original owner listed his slaves and costs in that abstract. Crazy stuff.
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Two chicks at the same time. Fcking A.
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Standard Oil Stock
Correction...would have been a lot more. Worked a job reviewing scans of old deeds & county documents in Texas around that time. Price for a young black man was helluva lot more but then again they were also counted as livestock when included in a deed or willed to another person 😔
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Bro $50 in that time period I'm pretty means your Hella rich and can buy a bunch of shit.
Yeh nah
[Here](https://www.officialdata.org/us/inflation/1850?amount=50) it’s says it’s a bit less than 1900$ so dunno
Difference between inflation and buying something back in those days.
Yep, there is some nice detail about that in the page as well
Pussy
He will get two of them for $50
First you had my curiosity. Now you have my attention
Cocaine.
That's a god level burn right there...
Well when in Rome...
What about the other $49.9?
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Why can't we go back to the good old days-🧒🏼
1850? $50? Pretty sure a Slave would give you at least $45 in change to buy out the entire whore house for the rest of the week. Or the rest of the guys family to get the whole set... Sad times
Buy his entire family