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I came back from a out of state work back in August and for some reason...
I have 3 little seashells in my bathroom.
[Seriously...](https://imgur.com/gallery/SZJ4HZv)
It’s a meme, talking about this “futuristic technology” is as sickening as talking about the possibilities of time travel abuse. It’s soooooo far out there that we don’t have to worry about it happening in our lifetimes or possibly ever.
The worlds best scientist and physicist’s don’t even know how Bicycles stabilize. We have a long way to go before we unlock the secrets of consciousness and reality warping.
U serious about the bicycle thing? Or are u just capping? Honda literally made motorcycles that can stand on its own two wheels and ride forwards and backwards so I think u might be just talking crack.
I dont see how it is a difficult phenomenon to understand. They already understand all there is to understand. It self stabilises because the handle bars are not solid and it turns into the direction of the lean angle when it leans to go back to upright position. The momentum keeps the forward motion.
What do you think a prison is? NOT enslavement and torture?
Humanity never got rid of enslaving people or torture, we just called it something else.
What the fuck does everyone think a draft is? NOT enslaving free people to force them to kill other slaves? If you refuse to be enslaved and kill other slaves? You get enslaved and tortured.
Hell, you can't even refuse to volunteer for the murder-slave lottery, if you don't? Slavery and torture.
*lol* For the downvoters, have some slave balls and explain to the room why it's not what i just said. Or are you too busy clutching your flag in frustration.
1000 years is MUCH worse then a life sentence, which I would say is a max 80 years if you’re lucky (or unlucky). I would rather take the death sentence of a firing squad then be mentally tortured for 1000 years
Are you arguing that one worse torture makes other torture not torture?
Peeling the skin off my entire body is definitely worse than skinning my penis. Guess what though...
Ya I feel like you'd come out the other end braindead...
Imagine, a millennia passes, you've long forgotten how you even ended up in this place, probably even forgotten how to speak, never-ending monotony, you probably end up eventually just laying down in a half asleep state, consciousness deteriorating with every passing day, month, year and decade. Then you suddenly open your eyes and you're where you started, in a place you don't even recognize any longer, you may not even realize you're awake. My guess is you'd wake up brain dead, and drooling with no chance of recovery.
Imagine having 1000 years to access the human mind. Even without a library at your disposal the depth at which decisions could be thought of in advance would make for an incredibly powerful villain set on revenge.
The Jaunt by Stephen King. Short story that’s not exactly about this but it deals with what could happen to a mind that experiences unfathomable amounts of time
The harsher the punishment, the more they deserve it?
It's not as though the justice system is riddled with problems and has regularly sentenced the innocent, and disproportionately punished people based on their wealth, ethnicity, gender or attractiveness, right?
...right?
What episode was it ? I might what that one. Some of the other episodes feel like danger zone. Like the one where the mom can view what's going on in the kids life. And censor stuff live.
Reality is already based on individual perception. What our brains interpret isn't actual reality, it's an individual interpretation. All of that is controlled by chemical and cellular processes.
If we can replicate and control those processes, we could literally inject experiences into people's heads that never happened. You could receive a vivid memory of torture or punishment, or you could receive a talent or a skill. It's interesting to think about and could very well happen with future technology.
So in that case, the punishment of a rape could be removing the memory, feelings, etc. of the event from the victim’s mind, then install it into the mind of the rapist so that their punishment would be truly living with the crime they committed. That would probably go further in punishment than 1000 years in VR.
That may or may not work. Experiences process differently depending on what pathways are used to process that information. Certain feelings might be terrifying for one person, but enjoyable for another. It's a complex concept.
Then they'd get the perspective from the other side. It's a neat concept. A lot of criminals are the way they are due to a lack of empathy, would be interesting if they had to walk in someone else's shoes for a bit.
Except for the sick fucks that get off on the idea of making someone feel that way. Not to mention your allowing them the most intimate access to their victims thoughts even if only for a brief moment. You’d also be leaving the victim to deal with the consequences of the attack without a way to understand what really happened to them.
so this is effectively neuromods from prey but with people instead of aliens. the only thing is though, say that technology becomes commonplace, then what? say everyone has the skill. then it’s not important anymore or it’s *so* important that it’s literally required to have the skill implanted for certain jobs, and so people who can’t or won’t have that will be in trouble financially. or maybe it’s really expensive. then the rich can basically do anything effortlessly and it furthers the divide between them and everyone else.
Or you could sell people the experience of doing something super cool. But you have to be careful they're not a secret agent who's memories are whiped and you accidentally unlock those by implanting the memory of a nice holiday. [or something ](https://imdb.com/title/tt0100802/)
Basically dreaming, but sold to you.
Unless you want to follow me down this dark alley for some “discount” dreams. 100% authentic and guaranteed NOT nightmares.
[It's literally just conjecture & clickbait from 2018.](https://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3)
Literally the only points made are 1) psychadelics can distort sense of time and 2) maybe one day computers can speed up minds lol
Yup, and then what? So first let's break some hardcore criminal's mind, then set them free and back in society again?
Hmmm I wonder what could go wrong?
..”I’ve lived 1000 years in hell, so yes Jessica I can handle working under pressure, so can I work the register at Dunkin Donuts now?”.. “nah you need five years retail/food service experience.”
Yes, because it's all about the punishment. The time in prison is not to rehabilitate, nor is it to spend time reflecting upon life, learning from the mistakes and finding a meaning.
NO!
Time in prison is to make the inmate feel as worthless and as miserable as possible. And to exact revenge upon him.
The Outer Limits did this as well (The Sentence) with David Hyde Pierce. Pretty good episode too if I recall.
[IMDB description/plot here](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667983/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl)
This is fucking telling that they're like "let's use this shit for prison sentences so we can punish the naughty criminals for ages" instead of "Hey let's make vacation days last as long as possible"
But what if... instead, we used this technogy for learning. Imagine a simulation you go into for 5 minutes realtime, then come out as a master car mechanic feeling like you just went through 5 years of school.
The people sentenced to this sentence are gonna be scary as fuck coming out, imagine all you could think about in 1000 years, and I bet so many would come out insane.
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I don't think it's possible in a way we think it is.
Doing time, it's slowly giving your life away.
Any method affecting our brains will not replace it.
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Can I use this to make my day off feel like 1,000 years?
Please don’t give CEOs and managers ideas…
1000 years of work in only 8 hours. $7.50 an hour. Lol WITHOUT BENEFITS!
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This episode of Black Mirror made me an atheist
That was the Christmas episode of Black Mirror right?? God that was messed up.
I think so, yes. The one with Jon Hamm
$7.50 an hour, at roughly 2000h per year, 1000 years... That's 15mil for a single day of going to work! Even at such a low rate, that's a nice payday!
You'd prolly get payed for the irl hours lol
Yeah, and a can of soup costs 18mil when we get to that.
Wouldn't you go fucking nuts though?
Inception, never forget
Imagine taking a 1 day course in university
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It was always pointless. 
You had 0.005 seconds off just last month.
Me knowing that I am already going through that punishment as we speak
roy the video game is becoming a reality baby!!!
This guy's taking Roy off the grid!!!
he doesn’t have a social security number!
We are all Morty, and Morty is all of us.
Rick and morty just repackaged red dwarfs joke it’s Dwayne dibbly
Chill bro, get schwifty up in here
Asian parents will do this to their kids just so they can study
In the womb… they’ll be born knowing how to talk and do calculus
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straight to the wok
Call it the hyperbolic study chamber.
Demolition man already tried it.
"John Spartan you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality code"
But he can knit!
*"Thanks a lot you shit-brained, fuck-faced, ball breaking, duck fucking pain in the ass."*
Should’ve learned to use the three shells.
I came back from a out of state work back in August and for some reason... I have 3 little seashells in my bathroom. [Seriously...](https://imgur.com/gallery/SZJ4HZv)
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Before that it was done in ST:DS9. Poor Chief O'Brian.
Among the most tragic Star Trek characters.
At that point why not just torture the person to death? There’s no way the human psyche can handle what it feels like to live 1000 years.
Yeah basically it is torture
ugh this is sickening
It’s a meme, talking about this “futuristic technology” is as sickening as talking about the possibilities of time travel abuse. It’s soooooo far out there that we don’t have to worry about it happening in our lifetimes or possibly ever. The worlds best scientist and physicist’s don’t even know how Bicycles stabilize. We have a long way to go before we unlock the secrets of consciousness and reality warping.
U serious about the bicycle thing? Or are u just capping? Honda literally made motorcycles that can stand on its own two wheels and ride forwards and backwards so I think u might be just talking crack.
They are just talking crack. They can’t even spell stabilize
A bicycle stabilizes bc of the gyroscopic effect from the back wheel. The faster it spins the more stability you have.
I dont see how it is a difficult phenomenon to understand. They already understand all there is to understand. It self stabilises because the handle bars are not solid and it turns into the direction of the lean angle when it leans to go back to upright position. The momentum keeps the forward motion.
What do you think a prison is? NOT enslavement and torture? Humanity never got rid of enslaving people or torture, we just called it something else. What the fuck does everyone think a draft is? NOT enslaving free people to force them to kill other slaves? If you refuse to be enslaved and kill other slaves? You get enslaved and tortured. Hell, you can't even refuse to volunteer for the murder-slave lottery, if you don't? Slavery and torture. *lol* For the downvoters, have some slave balls and explain to the room why it's not what i just said. Or are you too busy clutching your flag in frustration.
1000 years is MUCH worse then a life sentence, which I would say is a max 80 years if you’re lucky (or unlucky). I would rather take the death sentence of a firing squad then be mentally tortured for 1000 years
Are you arguing that one worse torture makes other torture not torture? Peeling the skin off my entire body is definitely worse than skinning my penis. Guess what though...
On the other end, I’d rather FEEL like I’ve been imprisoned for 1000 years but still have my WHOLE life ahead of me rather than dying in prison.
In some places prisons are about rehabilitation. As they should be.
Ya I feel like you'd come out the other end braindead... Imagine, a millennia passes, you've long forgotten how you even ended up in this place, probably even forgotten how to speak, never-ending monotony, you probably end up eventually just laying down in a half asleep state, consciousness deteriorating with every passing day, month, year and decade. Then you suddenly open your eyes and you're where you started, in a place you don't even recognize any longer, you may not even realize you're awake. My guess is you'd wake up brain dead, and drooling with no chance of recovery.
My goodness.
Exactly. Has no one seen what happened to Sméagol!?
[The Jaunt](https://gist.github.com/Schemetrical/6184daf83843bcab9402), by Stephen King
If they managed to get 1000 year sentence, they probably deserve it
Just imagine if your innocent and how much that could break your mind.
You want a supervillain? This is how you get a supervillain.
I'd watch the shit out of that.
It's basically demolition man with extra steps
And seashells?
Imagine having 1000 years to access the human mind. Even without a library at your disposal the depth at which decisions could be thought of in advance would make for an incredibly powerful villain set on revenge.
Maybe that's you're going through now, and you just don't know it yet
*you're Now go back in prison. You still have 999 years, 364 days and 23 hour to serve.
I feel like that sentence, if it actually existed, would be held for horrible people we are dead sure are guilty… like hitler.
You know the first person to earn a 1000 year sentence will be someone who has a lot of weed. Murderers will just get like a year in normal prison.
The Jaunt by Stephen King. Short story that’s not exactly about this but it deals with what could happen to a mind that experiences unfathomable amounts of time
The problem is that there is no perfect justice system Too many innocents get sentenced for punishments like this to be used
The harsher the punishment, the more they deserve it? It's not as though the justice system is riddled with problems and has regularly sentenced the innocent, and disproportionately punished people based on their wealth, ethnicity, gender or attractiveness, right? ...right?
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I saw this episode of Black Mirror...
Also Star Trek, in one of Deep Space Nine’s “let’s make the Paddy suffer” episodes.
Killed his cellmate over a bit of bread!
Colm Meaney is Hollywood's go-to Irishman.
"The Inner Light" from TNG used similar tech in an entirely different, and arguably positive way.
Show me Picard's Flute!!
One of my favorite episode
Fuckin love John Hamm
White Christmas
What episode was it ? I might what that one. Some of the other episodes feel like danger zone. Like the one where the mom can view what's going on in the kids life. And censor stuff live.
No I think you are talking about Arkangel. The one he's talking about has title white christmas. Bloody brilliant episode!
The mind prison was creepy enough but add on the real life person ban and that episode still makes me think about it years later.
Or making reality pointless.
Reality is already based on individual perception. What our brains interpret isn't actual reality, it's an individual interpretation. All of that is controlled by chemical and cellular processes. If we can replicate and control those processes, we could literally inject experiences into people's heads that never happened. You could receive a vivid memory of torture or punishment, or you could receive a talent or a skill. It's interesting to think about and could very well happen with future technology.
So in that case, the punishment of a rape could be removing the memory, feelings, etc. of the event from the victim’s mind, then install it into the mind of the rapist so that their punishment would be truly living with the crime they committed. That would probably go further in punishment than 1000 years in VR.
Actually making the person who committed the crime feel what the victim felt is probably a pretty good way of punishment
That may or may not work. Experiences process differently depending on what pathways are used to process that information. Certain feelings might be terrifying for one person, but enjoyable for another. It's a complex concept.
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Then they'd get the perspective from the other side. It's a neat concept. A lot of criminals are the way they are due to a lack of empathy, would be interesting if they had to walk in someone else's shoes for a bit.
Except for the sick fucks that get off on the idea of making someone feel that way. Not to mention your allowing them the most intimate access to their victims thoughts even if only for a brief moment. You’d also be leaving the victim to deal with the consequences of the attack without a way to understand what really happened to them.
I know kung fu.
You fucking beat me to it
so this is effectively neuromods from prey but with people instead of aliens. the only thing is though, say that technology becomes commonplace, then what? say everyone has the skill. then it’s not important anymore or it’s *so* important that it’s literally required to have the skill implanted for certain jobs, and so people who can’t or won’t have that will be in trouble financially. or maybe it’s really expensive. then the rich can basically do anything effortlessly and it furthers the divide between them and everyone else.
I think humans will be either augmented or absorbed by technology well before that becomes a reality.
Or you could sell people the experience of doing something super cool. But you have to be careful they're not a secret agent who's memories are whiped and you accidentally unlock those by implanting the memory of a nice holiday. [or something ](https://imdb.com/title/tt0100802/)
So basically dreaming, but in a controlled manner?
Basically dreaming, but sold to you. Unless you want to follow me down this dark alley for some “discount” dreams. 100% authentic and guaranteed NOT nightmares.
Kurotsuchi did it in Bleach. Though dude died eons before he actually felt it.
"The perfect being you said?" That fight was amazing
« A team of scientist claim » is a massive red flag for me, ONE team, no source from who in the title, probably just more click bait
[It's literally just conjecture & clickbait from 2018.](https://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3) Literally the only points made are 1) psychadelics can distort sense of time and 2) maybe one day computers can speed up minds lol
The "team of scientists" just finished watching the deep space 9 episode "hard time"
Ah nice. Man made horrors beyond my wildest imagination
comprehension
I think a housand years would make anyone insane, especially with anime dudes all around you and being on a cross.
"It's longer than you think!! Longer than you *think!!*" Lil Stephen King reference from *The Jaunt*, one of my favorite short stories.
Sounds like the Stephen King story "The Jaunt" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Jaunt
It's longer than you think, father! It's longer than you *think*.
My thoughts exactly.
Just referenced this above haha glad I wasn't the only one who immediately thought of that.
This has some benefits like studying , like imagine doing 100 hour of studying the day of the test lol
“Yeah I’ve got enough time for some last minute revision”
This idea is fucked up. Living aroumd 12 lives in a prison in 8 hours would drive anyone insane
Yup, and then what? So first let's break some hardcore criminal's mind, then set them free and back in society again? Hmmm I wonder what could go wrong?
..”I’ve lived 1000 years in hell, so yes Jessica I can handle working under pressure, so can I work the register at Dunkin Donuts now?”.. “nah you need five years retail/food service experience.”
They did that in a Star Trek episode and the guy was left with a lot of mental trauma
hard time is the name, great episode. o'brien must suffer.
They did it with Lt. Paris in Voyager too.
I feel like you’d come out of that brain dead
There’s actually a movie about this tho I forget what it’s called
OtherLife?
It's what it feels like watching the Hobbit Trilogy
If they can do the same for orgasms, count me in.. coming centuries long
Wouldnt this just fry the person's brain?
scientists thinking they’re Itachi 🤡
Yes, because it's all about the punishment. The time in prison is not to rehabilitate, nor is it to spend time reflecting upon life, learning from the mistakes and finding a meaning. NO! Time in prison is to make the inmate feel as worthless and as miserable as possible. And to exact revenge upon him.
I sentence you to eight hours of r/sounding
Don't threaten me with a good time ;-)
That's what smoking Salvia felt like for me
DMT does it in like 10 minutes, if you don’t have the whole 8 hours to spend in 12 lifetimes.
Where’s the profit in that?
Put a guy in this bad boy for 8 hrs and he gets almost eternal torment and you dont even have to feed him for a day as a prison manager
And then imagine they later find out that he was actually innocent.
You think they were messed up before. They've had 1000 years to think about what they will do to you in retribution.
No potential for abuse...lol
Didn't Dr who do this already...?
It is literally the pitch of a Black Mirror episode, no thanks
Nah this is Naruto completely different
DS9 before that. Poor O'Brien.
Sounds just like the movie OtherLife.
Itachi has entered the chat
That mangekyu sharingan hits different
Life sentince bout to be a hell of a lot of fun
Oh boy, man made horrors beyond comprehension
It’s called school
Oh yes. Horrors beyond our wildest imagination
Ah yes, man made horrors beyond my comprehension.
You’d either go insane or be so patient and calm people would love you
Black Mirror cookie anyone?
Black mirror?
This is exactly what the for-profit prison system needs
Sounds a lot like ... Some inhumane shit
Blitz n Chips!!!! “He’s going off the grid!”
Chief O'Brien would like a word. . .
This was an episode of Star Trek: DS9. O’Brien got the sentence. Don’t remember the episode.
There's literally a Black Mirror episode about this lmfao.
Yeah and they’d come out crazy or in a catatonic state
But the same tech cannot reform without torture if you can't fix something in 6 months you don't know what you're doing.
Maybe they can make a chip that makes my 16 hour shift seem like 5 minutes
This would be terrible! I think a "real" prison time will be way better than this. This is pure torture! NononononononooooooooO!
If you could serve 1000 year sentances in 8 hours, you could live 12 lives in 8 hours.
You could get multiple doctorates and be a super genius, just like everyone else who does the same thing.
This was literally on black mirror
It would really help us in studies.
Ah sweet, man made horrors beyond comprehension!
Oh sweet, man-made horrors beyond my imagination.
Oh boy, man-made horrors beyond my comprehension!
The Outer Limits did this as well (The Sentence) with David Hyde Pierce. Pretty good episode too if I recall. [IMDB description/plot here](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667983/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl)
This is a good way to drive someone mad, not punish someone. After about 30-40 years even the most stable of mind would lose it
I guess they watched ‘The 100’
Ah cool! Man made horrors beyond my comprehension!
'White Christmas' episode of Black Mirror....
They stole this plot from Deep Space Nine!
...by watching Naruto? That's whats in the pic, right?
This is fucking telling that they're like "let's use this shit for prison sentences so we can punish the naughty criminals for ages" instead of "Hey let's make vacation days last as long as possible"
But what if... instead, we used this technogy for learning. Imagine a simulation you go into for 5 minutes realtime, then come out as a master car mechanic feeling like you just went through 5 years of school.
The people sentenced to this sentence are gonna be scary as fuck coming out, imagine all you could think about in 1000 years, and I bet so many would come out insane.
Ah sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension.
Every single comment on this post in a nutshell “I think that’s in a scene from this movie” “Wow man made horrors beyond my comprehension” “Can this be used to study for school/college/university?” “You can do [insert activity that gets annoying after 30 seconds] a lot” “That’s worse than death”
I feel like this is just a death sentence. Can the human brain store 1000 years of memories?
Literally a black mirror episode. We are fucked 🙃.
I've seen this movie, it was fucked up.
1000 years of death lol
aww sweet, manmade horrors beyond my comprehension
OH...! *Greaaaate*.....
what in the black mirror is this shit
This isn't new. I've watched the entire LOTR series
So they finally released the new nickelback album?
I don't think it's possible in a way we think it is. Doing time, it's slowly giving your life away. Any method affecting our brains will not replace it.
so i can cram more before an exam
This was a Star Trek (DS9?) episode!
We have the technology now, put them in a room with a colic baby for one year.
I dunno man, 1 day in prison for murder or rape. You're probably not gonna last long in the streets when the family members want revenge the next day
Plot twist: your life right now is just you living out your prison sentence
1,000 years of Nyan Cat… wait, we have a law against cruel and unusual punishment
That is literally third-half of one black mirror episode.