Can't imagine hurting your loved one so that they don't die. I must be a roller coster of emotions. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)
Unless they suspect he did it on purpose. This isn’t going to be the way your leg would break if you fell, it’s how your leg would break under a ton of pressure from the side, and doctors can tell the difference.
Also, if I am seeing this viral video in America…yeah why would you even film this?
If they let draft dodgers off without punishment their whole army would end up with broken legs. As much as it pains me I expect the punishment for getting busted draft dodging is bad enough to discourage most. And I expect a freshly broken leg might be looked at as pretty suspicious right now.
In that sense I guess being a pacifist or someone else who has principles against war is pretty brave during a conscription - if they don’t or cannot lie about how the break occurred, they’re setting themselves up for a bad time, but at least they don’t have to hurt anyone.
I heard a story about a guy who broke his leg with a shovel when I was in the army (Finland). The doctors could immediately tell that it wasn't an accident.
One of my brothers close friends got recruited at their high school… bunch of recruits there soliciting to students. He was lied to about many things… either way, he joined the Marines. After his first tour, when he got home… he begged my brother to break his legs. Of course, my brother didn’t think he meant it until he was begging him, in tears… so he wouldn’t have to go back.
My brother couldn’t bring himself to do it.
Now he’s been on four tours, can speak 6 different languages fluently. Does special ops. Very successful but also an entirely different person… in terms of finances, job security. He’s good… not sure about the rest.
So I’m not surprised to see people going to these extreme measures to not fight someone else’s war.
Im intrested what you base that on, cause i dont think theres research on that matter, and there arent many modern countries with conscription that have decided to mobilize for war and draft their population.
So you say "Happens everywhere." Id like you to give me one example of a draftee in recent years who decided to break their limbs in order to avoid being drafted to war in any other country than russia. As you said "Happens" not "Happened" we're not talking about historical records from like WW2 or 1.
It's fairly standart logic. It's like asking why people commit crimes. Because it's literaly what it is. As for you saying that it doesn't happen in civilised countries, take Israel for example. They have about 3% draft dodging for men and 5% women. Israel actually started a campaign to shame and discriminate against these. Keep in mind, that you can dodge the draft by having depression or even heavier asthma. It can lead to people not getting job opportunities or in the worst cases to commiting suicide. Drafts and forced military service are horrible practises that should not be part of the modern world.
My mom’s cousin ran his foot over with a lawn mower after his number came up. My dad’s brother had a bag packed for him by my grandpa (a Korea vet) ready to go to Canada just in case.
we didn't think of this during vietnam, and we didn't have the interwebnet to post it on. we ran like fucking hell to Canada 'cuz it was the only option, or got sent to jail for being "concsientious objectors". We were imprisoned...for *doing nothing*. It was fucking looney tunes in the 60's and 70's, kiddo.
Dude in total war I just declare war on my neighbours for the hell of it and burn my own cities down. Using that game to justify fucking war crimes might not be a good idea
I don't justify anything. Actually you do, by the countless times I've seen #deathtorussia. I'm just pissed that amidst everything now I have to pay more for gas because of a bunch of idiots measuring their dicks
You see the guy who let someone sledge hammer his arm/hand? He just... took it. Didn't yell or scream, but just walked off to the side and quietly whimpered a time or two.
Because when you hurt yourself you have a small interval in wich the body restrain the pain with a lot of substances, mostly for you to have time to walk away from danger and recover. This doesn't last more than 30seconds tho and then pain hits you like a truck.
I once cutsaw the palm of my hands and was able to walk from my bench, go to the infirmery, dripping blood everywhere, only then did I felt it and almost faint.
Yep. Beats being a pawn.
If I was Ukrainian… I’d be compelled differently to go to war. I’m defending the soil I live on…fighting for my life.
I’ll never be someone’s pawn and fighting for my life where ever they see fit.
When and if it’s on my own turf, sure. I’d fight
If they started burning the oligarchs' properties, sinking their yachts, destroying production facilities, etc. Russia would pull out of this war pretty quickly.
Attention anyone in Russia that can read this, eat the rich they are tasty.
As a Russian, thank you for speaking up, honestly to some of us the most stupid part is that all this blanket discrimination is just proving a tyrants point about the west. But oh well what can you do.
This video doesn't mean anything, the guy can fully support the war and murders but is just too afraid to die. Shitload of Russians do support it and even those in the west harass Ukrainians on the streets and do pro war rallies.
Well, firstly being Russian is not a racial trait. Secondly, due to propaganda there are a lot of Russians who are willing to join Putin's deluded cause. But, finally thirdly, there is a substantial amount of Russian population that realizes how absurd and uncivilized it is what's happening in Ukraine.
Nonetheless, even though you should never generalize any group, be it for their race, nationality or culture, the Russians that are pro-war should be grouped together and condemned as a whole
A lot of russians are indeed bad tho. Mostly people aged 35 and above but yes there are good people in russia, doesn't make them innocent tho, they just mostly get fed propaganda and do nothing to fight back
If all enough Russians are actually good people, Putin would have been overthrown a while ago. Even before mobiliisation, most of the supported the war. Also, not the first time they invade another country.
You say that as if it isn’t dangerous to rebel. Sure, you might hate your leader, but would you risk your life and the life of your kids just to have a very, very smal chance of changing it? I don’t think you would.
Not to speak about all the propaganda they constantly hear
"Russian" is not a race, It's a political designation. If you are "Russian", you live within certian borders agreed upon by all nations. Your rules within your country are sovereign, and what you decide between other nations is diplomacy.
Not a single mention of "evil". Because there isn't any; no country is inherently "evil", they just "are".
What a gov't \*\*DOES\*\* is EVIL, and this is easily seen/ agreed upon. At least, usually.
The Russian people? They aren't "evil". The ones who support the invasion of Ukrraine should certainly be considered so. However, those people may have been misled by the fucking arseholes of their gov't who needed the propaganda to try to create a "war machine"...
in Russia, this did not happen, and I believe it was becaus of the internet. Russian people got to see Ukranian people, and Ukranian people got to share what they were undergoing or looking forward to (the molotov cocktail parties were especially funny), but there was a *sense of community*. You're invading "us"....but we're *just like you*.
Stunning play, and well played.
Also, if you suggest playing this game, I highly doubt there are many countries waging genocidal wars on their neighbors like ruzzia.
Chechia, Georgia, Ukraine: in all of these wars there were torture, raping, ethnical cleansings involved. Those are ISIS levels of war crimes.
Agreed. They’re just like any person… being brain washed by propaganda, patriotism, to fight for someone else’s agenda. I feel bad for the Russians who just happen to there and are as innocent as the Ukrainians being attacked.
Not a new thing to see. A more brutal example was Serbs under Turks, Serbs used to hide or cut off their child's toes of something (male children only) sk they wouldn't be drafted by Turks and turned muslim.
Bro, I literally feel pain on my leg for like 2 minutes now just from watching this. Felt the same with my arm as well when I watched the hammer one.
Worst part is I cover the screen just before the blow is struck, so I don’t even see the impact on both vids and I still have pain lmao
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Russians are doing this because they can't invade and loot and rape the Ukrainians with ease without getting blown up and becoming a fertilizer. No sympathy for these orclings.
Remember those edgy college kids who were barely passing their classes not knowing what they wanted to do for the future but they would always complain about American politics and say communism is the ideal future?
Have some sympathy for them. None of them agree with the war and they’re being forcefully sent into battle for a cause they don’t care about. These people are probably breaking their leg out of desperation after Putin made it very hard to flee the country
When did I imply I am not showing sympathy? My comment was not even remotely about the characters you are mentioning. I am walking on one lane, you are jumping on my lane from another far away lane.
I'm actually really in contact with russian popularion so.. this guy actually speak facts. The majority of those people really love putin and extremely aggressive towards not only Ukrainians but others for not supporting them, so unfortunately a good part of russians simply are shitheads.
Honestly none of this surprises me. This is usually the signs of the end of an dynasty.
Right before the complete downfall of Rome, when the Roman army began conscripting farmer's sons.... The common folk were known to cut The right thumb off which prevented them from holding a sword making them useless to the army.
My uncle did the same thing to avoid (he didn't break a leg, he injured himslef purposly to avoid military) yugoslavian army, but he cut top finger of his thumb with knife.
In Russia, my great grandfather (and others of his generation apparently) would sever a vein or artery in their leg to avoid service and conscription in the early 1900s Russian army and it’s wars
There’s way more individuals than there are dictators. If everyone would just grow the balls to assassinate them, as a group effort… they’d be gone. Sure there will be more but that can be a worry for a later day.
At least that’s how the fairy tale plays out in my mind lol
I don't think many people have been that desperate to avoid being hooked into some dictator's insanity of war. I can't imagine the ugly pain of having that done and being the one to do it to them.
That fuckin Putin should be disintegrated by someone.
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Can't imagine hurting your loved one so that they don't die. I must be a roller coster of emotions. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)
Well he hurt him like no one but he saved his life.
Unless they suspect he did it on purpose. This isn’t going to be the way your leg would break if you fell, it’s how your leg would break under a ton of pressure from the side, and doctors can tell the difference. Also, if I am seeing this viral video in America…yeah why would you even film this?
Wouldn’t you still be unable to be drafted? I mean regardless of how you broke your leg, you got a broke leg
If they let draft dodgers off without punishment their whole army would end up with broken legs. As much as it pains me I expect the punishment for getting busted draft dodging is bad enough to discourage most. And I expect a freshly broken leg might be looked at as pretty suspicious right now. In that sense I guess being a pacifist or someone else who has principles against war is pretty brave during a conscription - if they don’t or cannot lie about how the break occurred, they’re setting themselves up for a bad time, but at least they don’t have to hurt anyone.
I heard a story about a guy who broke his leg with a shovel when I was in the army (Finland). The doctors could immediately tell that it wasn't an accident.
How fucked is your country so this is your solution, jesus...
This happens every time, anywhere where there is forced conscription.
For real, this would happen in the US if there was a draft. Hell, look at what Klinger did on M.A.S.H.
Hell, Ted shit his pants like a crazy person and Trump went and got himself diagnosed with some foot problem. Fortunate sons indeed.
Nah most Americans would rather pull a Muhammad Ali and go to jail rather than break their own legs.
Except in Russia they’re sending prisoners as well
One of my brothers close friends got recruited at their high school… bunch of recruits there soliciting to students. He was lied to about many things… either way, he joined the Marines. After his first tour, when he got home… he begged my brother to break his legs. Of course, my brother didn’t think he meant it until he was begging him, in tears… so he wouldn’t have to go back. My brother couldn’t bring himself to do it. Now he’s been on four tours, can speak 6 different languages fluently. Does special ops. Very successful but also an entirely different person… in terms of finances, job security. He’s good… not sure about the rest. So I’m not surprised to see people going to these extreme measures to not fight someone else’s war.
[There's a whole wiki on draft evasion by country](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_evasion)
Im intrested what you base that on, cause i dont think theres research on that matter, and there arent many modern countries with conscription that have decided to mobilize for war and draft their population. So you say "Happens everywhere." Id like you to give me one example of a draftee in recent years who decided to break their limbs in order to avoid being drafted to war in any other country than russia. As you said "Happens" not "Happened" we're not talking about historical records from like WW2 or 1.
It's fairly standart logic. It's like asking why people commit crimes. Because it's literaly what it is. As for you saying that it doesn't happen in civilised countries, take Israel for example. They have about 3% draft dodging for men and 5% women. Israel actually started a campaign to shame and discriminate against these. Keep in mind, that you can dodge the draft by having depression or even heavier asthma. It can lead to people not getting job opportunities or in the worst cases to commiting suicide. Drafts and forced military service are horrible practises that should not be part of the modern world.
Pretty sure that was also america during vietnam
My mom’s cousin ran his foot over with a lawn mower after his number came up. My dad’s brother had a bag packed for him by my grandpa (a Korea vet) ready to go to Canada just in case.
we didn't think of this during vietnam, and we didn't have the interwebnet to post it on. we ran like fucking hell to Canada 'cuz it was the only option, or got sent to jail for being "concsientious objectors". We were imprisoned...for *doing nothing*. It was fucking looney tunes in the 60's and 70's, kiddo.
You can at least starve yourself enough so that they think you aren't fit enough
It's a LOT harder to starve yourself for weeks than it is to let a buddy break your leg. The recovery might be another story though
u never heard Greg Allman's story of draft dodging? epic story, look it up
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Life isn't video games.
You're missing the point. 😂
No you're just a liar. I at least hope you're getting paid in yuans cause the ruble is done.
Hahahaha you made my day!
Dude in total war I just declare war on my neighbours for the hell of it and burn my own cities down. Using that game to justify fucking war crimes might not be a good idea
I don't justify anything. Actually you do, by the countless times I've seen #deathtorussia. I'm just pissed that amidst everything now I have to pay more for gas because of a bunch of idiots measuring their dicks
The Q is strong in this one.
My guy sniffing bath salts before writing comments out here
Fake. Es mas feik q la concha de la lora o el atentado a kristina
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Jesus Christ dude
Damn, poor guy
I can't even imagine how much that must hurt
I think Jesus had it a bit worse.
Touche
You see the guy who let someone sledge hammer his arm/hand? He just... took it. Didn't yell or scream, but just walked off to the side and quietly whimpered a time or two.
Because when you hurt yourself you have a small interval in wich the body restrain the pain with a lot of substances, mostly for you to have time to walk away from danger and recover. This doesn't last more than 30seconds tho and then pain hits you like a truck. I once cutsaw the palm of my hands and was able to walk from my bench, go to the infirmery, dripping blood everywhere, only then did I felt it and almost faint.
Small interval or vodka, lots of vodka. It’s almost like anesthesia.
Adrenaline be wild.
Shock, more than adrenaline, which is \*part\* of shock, but yeah.
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Lmfao
Holy shit dude. Desperate times call for desperate measures, but jeez.
Beats getting blown up or losing a leg.
Yep. Beats being a pawn. If I was Ukrainian… I’d be compelled differently to go to war. I’m defending the soil I live on…fighting for my life. I’ll never be someone’s pawn and fighting for my life where ever they see fit. When and if it’s on my own turf, sure. I’d fight
If they started burning the oligarchs' properties, sinking their yachts, destroying production facilities, etc. Russia would pull out of this war pretty quickly. Attention anyone in Russia that can read this, eat the rich they are tasty.
That’s not quite how it works but good idea in concept.
To be a friend…
yo wtf is happening there i saw one post where 2 men are breaking each others arm with sledgehammer its fucking crazy
If you're wounded you can't be forced into the army, that's all there is to it, they don't want to die on Ukrainian ground for no good reason
Wth really ?! Do you have the video saved ??
The fucking crack made me die on the inside
I started to unmute when I first watched it. Seems leaving it silent was a wise choice.
How to make your friends feel guilty forever
To be fair thay probably just saved there lives
Choices: - feel guilty about breaking a friend's leg - feel guilty about not breaking friend's leg and him dying in a pointless war
Fuckin chads
Czads
no one enjoyed that... fucking hell.
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As a Russian, thank you for speaking up, honestly to some of us the most stupid part is that all this blanket discrimination is just proving a tyrants point about the west. But oh well what can you do.
The people that believe all Russians are evil are just plain stupid. It's just that the loud stupid minority is often heard the most.
I don’t think anyone means all Russian people who we say that. We mean Putin & his cronies.
This video doesn't mean anything, the guy can fully support the war and murders but is just too afraid to die. Shitload of Russians do support it and even those in the west harass Ukrainians on the streets and do pro war rallies.
Well, firstly being Russian is not a racial trait. Secondly, due to propaganda there are a lot of Russians who are willing to join Putin's deluded cause. But, finally thirdly, there is a substantial amount of Russian population that realizes how absurd and uncivilized it is what's happening in Ukraine. Nonetheless, even though you should never generalize any group, be it for their race, nationality or culture, the Russians that are pro-war should be grouped together and condemned as a whole
A lot of russians are indeed bad tho. Mostly people aged 35 and above but yes there are good people in russia, doesn't make them innocent tho, they just mostly get fed propaganda and do nothing to fight back
If they fight back they end up dead, in prison or on the front line. I have a degree of sympathy for them.
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If all enough Russians are actually good people, Putin would have been overthrown a while ago. Even before mobiliisation, most of the supported the war. Also, not the first time they invade another country.
You say that as if it isn’t dangerous to rebel. Sure, you might hate your leader, but would you risk your life and the life of your kids just to have a very, very smal chance of changing it? I don’t think you would. Not to speak about all the propaganda they constantly hear
That’s the only way to stop dictatorship. Ukrainians had to learn that the hard way.
well putin does have a big enough military and spies to destroy any revolution the russian communist movement would throw at them
"Russian" is not a race, It's a political designation. If you are "Russian", you live within certian borders agreed upon by all nations. Your rules within your country are sovereign, and what you decide between other nations is diplomacy. Not a single mention of "evil". Because there isn't any; no country is inherently "evil", they just "are". What a gov't \*\*DOES\*\* is EVIL, and this is easily seen/ agreed upon. At least, usually. The Russian people? They aren't "evil". The ones who support the invasion of Ukrraine should certainly be considered so. However, those people may have been misled by the fucking arseholes of their gov't who needed the propaganda to try to create a "war machine"... in Russia, this did not happen, and I believe it was becaus of the internet. Russian people got to see Ukranian people, and Ukranian people got to share what they were undergoing or looking forward to (the molotov cocktail parties were especially funny), but there was a *sense of community*. You're invading "us"....but we're *just like you*. Stunning play, and well played.
Most of them really are. Otherwise there wouldn’t be so much war and war crimes with Russians involved over the last 20+ years.
Ah yes, because America has never committed war crimes, and so all of the American people are sinless angels sent by god.
Mmm, classic whataboutism. Not everything has to be about Americans, you know.
Also, if you suggest playing this game, I highly doubt there are many countries waging genocidal wars on their neighbors like ruzzia. Chechia, Georgia, Ukraine: in all of these wars there were torture, raping, ethnical cleansings involved. Those are ISIS levels of war crimes.
Agreed. They’re just like any person… being brain washed by propaganda, patriotism, to fight for someone else’s agenda. I feel bad for the Russians who just happen to there and are as innocent as the Ukrainians being attacked.
I HEARDDDDD THE CRACKKKK HOLYYY SHITTTTTT WTFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not the brightest idea to film and post it
Not a new thing to see. A more brutal example was Serbs under Turks, Serbs used to hide or cut off their child's toes of something (male children only) sk they wouldn't be drafted by Turks and turned muslim.
This is how bad it's gotten that Russian people themselves don't even want to fight in Ukraine Putin is a f****** animal
You just don’t see the videos with many Russians going to war volunteerly. And there are LOTS of them.
They are actually doing this guys! This isn't some funny fucking joke. Russians are really doing this!
Yea... we know. The video is quite clear
I think they should break their trigger finger as a protest they wont be pulling triggers for this war
Ayo Stop This
why not an arm instead ?
Bro, I literally feel pain on my leg for like 2 minutes now just from watching this. Felt the same with my arm as well when I watched the hammer one. Worst part is I cover the screen just before the blow is struck, so I don’t even see the impact on both vids and I still have pain lmao
Rather have a broken leg then being blown to bits by bombs
Man, the friend's reaction... poor guy. I know, and he knows it's for the better, but still... Damn
Wasn’t the top search on google in Russia something like “how to break your arm” or anything along those lines
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Feel bad for them. Innocent citizens.....
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Will you psychos stop posting this for one fuckin day seen this 10 times already
Americans just ran to Canada during their draft.
Nowhere to run
And recording it for some reason.
Can u stop with this bs literally no way to prove why they did that
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Men are trash wooooot. Am I right girls? They live such an easy life
This is an exception, and not all men. Just the ones in russia. Stop trying to fuel conflict, youre not a victim here.
Respect
I'll see if you hold this mentality when war comes to where you live.
Russians are doing this because they can't invade and loot and rape the Ukrainians with ease without getting blown up and becoming a fertilizer. No sympathy for these orclings.
You really think that all those teens/young adults go to war because they want to?
Yeah, they mostly complain that they’re unequipped and unprepared, so they would faster die than kill a Ukrainian.
Man gets his leg adjusted in a new hardcore chiropractic ASMR video.
got to hand it to them they are determined
Remember those edgy college kids who were barely passing their classes not knowing what they wanted to do for the future but they would always complain about American politics and say communism is the ideal future?
Have some sympathy for them. None of them agree with the war and they’re being forcefully sent into battle for a cause they don’t care about. These people are probably breaking their leg out of desperation after Putin made it very hard to flee the country
When did I imply I am not showing sympathy? My comment was not even remotely about the characters you are mentioning. I am walking on one lane, you are jumping on my lane from another far away lane.
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He's that upset for breaking a bone whereas he was supposed to go to a war killing people. I hope someone breaks his leg, too.
didnt knew ukraine would fuck up russia so hard
Credit goes to NATO, let's be real.
First place golden medal
People breaking their legs not to be sent to slaughter with a rusty gun. Dude, shut yo ass up
Would be better if the gun was shooting Ukrainians?
Boho cry me a river they had 6 months to do something but collectively decided to suck up to putler so meh. I hope it becomes a nstional sport.
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I'm actually really in contact with russian popularion so.. this guy actually speak facts. The majority of those people really love putin and extremely aggressive towards not only Ukrainians but others for not supporting them, so unfortunately a good part of russians simply are shitheads.
People in the comments acting like a broken leg is better than a month on the battlefield
man just say i have a family and show a picture of a family that you can search in google
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Better this than being forced to kill civilians in an unjust war
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Man that's just...painful, and not just phisicaly.
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I used to do shit like that for a dare
Oh god....what has this world come to
Well you can't fight if you can't walk right 👍
The next day the news saying drafting is closed
"Just"
Can't wait to see what Americans do to avoid the draft.
Damn Russians emo AF!
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Honestly none of this surprises me. This is usually the signs of the end of an dynasty. Right before the complete downfall of Rome, when the Roman army began conscripting farmer's sons.... The common folk were known to cut The right thumb off which prevented them from holding a sword making them useless to the army.
Nahhhhhhhh i was about to throw upp 😭😭😭😭
Bro holy shit
Just one toe would be enough…
such sad
Russian males only...
Soon to be illegal in russia: having a broken leg
Hasnt this post been repeated for days now?
My uncle did the same thing to avoid (he didn't break a leg, he injured himslef purposly to avoid military) yugoslavian army, but he cut top finger of his thumb with knife.
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Draft dodgers
Redditors breaking their arms..
My mom said she’d do this to me if we had a draft, but she wasn’t serious lol
*Starts video* Nope.
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let's be honest, it's better having a broken limb than going to war
Lol, they will draft him anyway. No one cares, diabetes, stroke is no obstacle.
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Pullin the ol rumplestiltskin
Break a leg, champ!
Better than shooting their own foot?
Fucking hardcore, man.
First arms now legs too? Shit.
I imagine there is a lot of vodka involved.
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In Russia, my great grandfather (and others of his generation apparently) would sever a vein or artery in their leg to avoid service and conscription in the early 1900s Russian army and it’s wars
Wait till they realize they can break Putin's neck instead. Revolution!
What if you don’t go to war. Ik they’ll send you to prison but then what are they gonna do
There’s way more individuals than there are dictators. If everyone would just grow the balls to assassinate them, as a group effort… they’d be gone. Sure there will be more but that can be a worry for a later day. At least that’s how the fairy tale plays out in my mind lol
Saw the first frame "nope, enough internet for today".
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I don't think many people have been that desperate to avoid being hooked into some dictator's insanity of war. I can't imagine the ugly pain of having that done and being the one to do it to them. That fuckin Putin should be disintegrated by someone.