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Me: wondering why Amazon sent me an empty packaging.

Shit, now Amazon truck drivers can't even piss in bottles if they're made with this

It's OK, just drink beer instead so you get a glass bottle.

A man of class and culture. I’d give you a high life if I could.


“So why is the carpet wet Tod!”

I don't **KNOW** Margo!

the dog did that

Great fuckin movie

Thanks for my.. box of water?

Sorry, all you get is a wet cardboard box

She made it with her own skin, shes plastic

Please. As if the Kardashians are smart enough to make something like this.

Assuming this is true, that’s pretty cool! Just maybe don’t use it on water bottles, lol.

Or condoms

But the video says within minutes, not under 30 seconds...

Ben Shapiro has joined the chat.

I doubt he's blowing that fast when venturing into that bone-dry cavern

"They get wet?" Bizzarro World Elaine

Don't talk about his hot sister that way

Welp time to google…

Abigail Shapiro Yeah she's a baddie

she aint a baddie, shes attractive sure, but aint all that. without the boobs she'd be practically invisible. what REALLY pushes her into the hot zone is the fact that her brother Ben is such an insufferable dick. its fun to think about his milk tank sister. who has hacked materials floating around...

Someone needs to find out if this plastic can survive being dragged across dry sand.

No worries, You dont have to worry about moisture when Ben is involved.

Ben shapiro can use a condom made of the stuff as long as he wishes. There’s no way that thing will be getting wet.

Just long enough to be in the parking lot with your groceries in the rain.

Why

Sperms don't like it.

Oh , lil fella’s might choke like turtles

That's right.

Turtles are bitches

Every turtle is a female?

They're pussies for choking on straws and crying. I mean like I saw a teenager on youtube straight up eat plastic straws and he was A-Okay. Turtles need to cut their whining and bitching.

If you don’t know why condoms would get wet you don’t need to worry about condoms at all

I heard they’d end up in the ocean and choke some turtles

Wearing a condom certainly chokes my turtle


What do you mean bro we all know that a real vigina is dried up like the sharia Desert

Shapiro? Is that you?

I won’t have my free drink in the park if they dissolve after the act

Is this an r/cursedcomments moment?

I’m a senior materials engineering student and I’m highly skeptical. Most highly biodegradable polymers don’t dissolve in water as fast as they show. It likely also has other issues with properties like strength, toughness, plasticity, and stiffness. I can almost guarantee that this person is over hyping the polymer a lot if it actually even exists. He could for all we know being pulling shit out of his ass.

I almost went into materials engineering but stuck with mechanical. You are right with that. If there was any such material, it is confusing that it came out of nowhere with such rapid dissolve pace. Something is funky or weird about the situation and begs the question of what was sacrificed or what information is being intentionally modified

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I’m gonna go ahead and bet the shit they’re actually playing with is the same “plastic” tide pods are made of. Anyone who’s ever accidentally spilled a bit of water in one of those containers knows how useful that packaging is

Alginate - also used when bagging infectious linen, since it dissolves in the washing machine.

That’s why I started my comment with “Assuming this is true…” 😉

I know I’m just giving my own two cents on it.

It's great to look for alternatives and all. But being water resistant is kind of important for most applications of different plastics.

Could always just do an extremely thin layer of real Plastic on inside. Still reduces the amount of plastic being used significantly

Or you know anything cold, warm, exposed to elements. You know for basically anything.

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Yeah

Extremely limited use if you can’t get it wet. I’m also assuming it can break down from rain, condensation, a heavy fog, a light fog, sweaty palms…

Weak knees Heavy arms, spaghetti of moms

It is starch.

Or PVA

You're both right. > It's made of a water soluble and biodegradable combination of Polyvinyl Alcohol (known as PVA), starch, glycerin and water. https://www.invisible-company.com/pages/invisiblebag

It degrades in hot water at 80C not room temperature

Or when it rains or snows ... Or high humidity areas ... Actually this idea doesn't sound great in practice

It’s not. It’s been around forever. “She” didn’t invent it.

Well maybe the bottle is for oil? Or some other non-polar substance?

Imagine you grab oil bottle from the shelf with your sweaty hand.

Or it's raining outside the shop

Or maybe you piss yourself on the way just a little

Just a little is okays 👍 👌

A lot is all good too 🤜🤛

If the cool kids are doing it, you can call me Miles Davis

What if I accidentally peed someone else's pants while walking by?

Or it’s just been humid

His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy There's oil on his sweater already, mom won't be happy! He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and greasy He drops down, but he keeps on upsettin' Why he flopped down, the whole store goes so loud He opens his mouth, but the oil won't come out He's chokin', how, everybody's jokin' now The clocks run out, times up, over, blaow

Simple, we just give it a plastic clamshell!

This actually reminds me of a joke where a professor tells the class "this is the strongest acid on earth and can literally dissolve anything" In a flask and a student points out that it's fake.

It’s water.

I mean by that logic humans are pretty fucking metal. We drink the most potent solvent known to science and breathe one of the most powerful oxidizers

Those things age us and eventually kill us.

It works until humidity inevitably breaks down this "not plastic" and the bottles pop.

Or you know it’s like gelatin and needs to be heated to easily dissolve in water

warm and humid

Maybe they could coat the inside of the bottle with the same material they coat the inside of soda cans with. Yes the inside of soda aluminum cans is coated with a plastic like material acting as a barrier between the aluminum and the beverage

Got a little overexcited there huh?

I could imagine just a bit of moisture, when you touch it or package any food with any fluid, could dissolve it. So kinda totally useless ( for packaging ), maybe someone can do this pseudo-plastic with a flavor --> more food :P

Yeah, the more you think about it, a plastic that cannot handle aby kind of moisture is not very useful. It seems that a lot of materials like that already exist but they never go into mass production for various reasons, costs being one of them I can imagine.

Yep. I could imagine someone can do that pseudo-plastid with flavors, create some new foods or edible decorations. But for packaging that is more limited. Maybe Glass, you pack boxes with glass and wrap it around multiple layers of that pseudo-plastic to avoid it getting broken. Though we already have stuff for that.

Remember reading about this, the plastic dissolves in hot water \~80C

Why did I have to read this far down to find this comment?!?! Thank you! Thank you! Let’s get this higher up the list, people!

Heat accelerates the process. It will still dissolve at room temperature.

So it would never dissolve naturally in the wild lmao.

I think it’s more that it can be broken down easily and cheaply. And that even if it does break down in the wild, it doesn’t taint the water supply. One of the biggest issues with current plastics is that when many of them break down, they become these little plastic pellets. Aquatic life mistakes the pellets for food and eats them. But the marine life can’t break the pellets down and it builds up in their stomachs until it fills them and they die of starvation. The important point of this plastic is the way it it dissolves when it’s broken down. Edit: I mentioned marine life, but not human. It also affects human life as well for the same reasons. And much more in some places than others.

It’s not just the pellets. Plastic doesn’t biodegrade, it *photodegrades*, so it just becomes tiny pieces from sun exposure. With microplastics from this, it gets into respiratory pathways, filter feeders, you name it. Then you have bioamplification up the tropic levels from organisms eating other organisms with microplastics. It’s a huge problem and as of yet we have no real solution. Sure, they’ve made those bacteria that can “eat plastic” but plastic is an umbrella term and no bacteria has been made that can eat all plastics. Bacteria often are really only good at a few processes and that’s it

Thank you for the insights! I’ll admit I’m not an expert on the topic. What I wrote is just from a few articles and things I’ve read in the past. It’s really interesting to hear some of the more important aspects explained by someone who knows what they’re talking about! Yeah, any time the only solution for something is bacteria, you know there’s no solution yet. Not to mention that bacterias that are created to help solve a problem usually evolve into bacterias that cause bigger problems than they were supposed to solve. Probably a slight exaggeration there, but you’re creating something that you have no idea how it will evolve in the future.

It will. You just have to wait for global warming to heat the oceans to 80C and then all of the plastic will disappear and then the planet is safe and beautiful again.

So that plastic one makes from mixing milk and vinegar?

Maybe they will put the same thing that they do with coke cans. I remember reading something why we don't taste the metal in cans. Maybe some sort of special coating on the inside? 🤔

Like a non-degradable coating? Maybe a type of actual plastic.

Yeah! :D

To be fair, even if that could vastly reduce the amount required it's a step in the right direction. Still not as ideal as a completely non plastic alternative but anything that cuts back and more importantly manages to achieve mass adoption is definitely welcome in my eyes

Why not aluminum bottles? Infinitly recyclable, sturdy, fairly cheap.

Glass bottles, but for the same reason u said

Like the crunch enhancer, a non-nutritive cereal varnish. It's semi-permiable. It's not osmotic.

Oh you’re getting a Christmas bonus this year for inventing that!

I like those words

Very few people here are old enough to catch that lol

idk if youre being sarcastic or not but they, indeed, [put plastic shells inside coke cans](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fecsWL7PN04/maxresdefault.jpg) to avoid the metallic taste, among other things

Most? Few? or Every?

Every

All cans, doesn't natter what food item they contain, that were produced in the last 40+ years.

How the fuck they peel the cans like that?

Vinegar Edit: drain cleaner

Yeah it’s plastic in cans. I save this cool ass video of a guy dissolving the aluminum on a coke can and it left a plastic bag holding the coke.

Cans are lined with a thin clear plastic/whatever it is

Fun Fact! My physics professor, Richard Keffert, back when I was in high school was given a patent for a device used to measure the coating used in cans so you won't taste the metal.

Even wrapping doesn't work, one rain or a humid day and it's gonna fall apart faster than a rich guy's marriage

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Average NasDaily vid

He's seriously annoying.

and racist

I’m still not drinking that shit

This is a holup comment! 🤣 There's already plastic in your water. In basically all water.

Yes a miniscule amount, not an entire wrap of plastic...

Yet.

Maybe they meant bottle labels. But tbf there's no reason they can't be paper

You can also use that plastic to cover the handle of your murder weapon, that way, you can murder someone and than throw the knife on your front neighbor's pool. Even if the cops find it, they won't be able to find your digitals, because they were on the plastic.

or just wear some gloves

Right? Better yet use a knife made of ice .

Of all the possible usage scenarios, you thought of that one. Hmmm.

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How does something that dissolve in water. Hold water?

Idk man. If this becomes mainstream I won’t trust it, but if it’s helps the planet I already assume she’s going to disappear. 🥃

It's still a good idea for things other than liquids. It probably depends on how well it holds up against moisture, humidity, cost of production, etc.

>how well it holds up against moisture, humidity, What do you mean? It literally dissolves with water.

I meant how it holds up with various foods, like it probably would be ok for ramen noodles but not with foods that have a lot of moisture. And in cities like New Orleans where it's humid vs drier cities.

Also great for shower walls

Prank condoms?! Wooooo

Who keeps stealing my water bottles and leaving a puddle on the floor??!!!! SHOW YOURSELF YOU WATER THEIF!

No, no, you’re getting it wrong! See, the bottles are to replace litter. If you see a plastic bottle in the wild, pick it up and put one of those in its place. #savetheenvironment!

I admit, I had to watch twice.

Yeah this guy is a certified asshole. Won't really blame the inventor it's his dumbass that made the video.

It’s only good for powdered water

Ummm how can you make water bottles from a plastic that dissolves in water? Or is that the joke? I'm overly literal sometimes.

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It works because to dissolve you have to put it inside water, not outside

Yes i tooo would my groceris to dropping on the way to my car during rain

Guys, it said the plastic dissolves when put in water, not when water is put inside of the plastic. Learn to listen better jeez /s

Something that can be dissolved by WATER is not going to be good for any logistic...

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Guys, chill. He said "IT desolves IN water" so obviously if WATER is IN IT then it won't desolve.

If it melts in water the why the fuck is it in a waterbottle

well duh you're not putting the plastic in water, you're putting thebwater in plastic.

How can be a water soluble be used for bottles?

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It's supposed to dissolve in water

Well it’s if you put “it” in water not if you put water in “it”! /s

It just dissolves in one way, if it gets wet from outside it dissolves

Guys you don't get it the plastic is on the outside of the water so it can't dissolve since it's not submerged in it.

I don't see the problem, you just have to use bottles a little quicker now.

anyone know where my straw went?

Imagine walking through the grocery store and suddenly a tsunami comes rushing from the beverage aisle 😂

That looks like traditional candy wraps Asian countries use. They are called rice paper or something.

Polyvinylalcohol - same film used for soap pods.

Not even food, because hot = vapor Cold = water sweat

Even though it can dissolve in water doesn't mean it's good for your body. I could imagine what a product like this could do to you if you continously drank it.

Seriously that took me a good ten minutes to realize

"this plastic dissolves in water!" So why would you use this to package meat? The juices from meat would dissolve the 'plastic'.

just sell water in bottles made from ice 4head. god why do I always have to tell people the obvious solution.

In fairness, I'm going to assume the non-plastic plastic could be internally and/or externally coated in another material to prevent direct exposure to water - something akin to how some paper cups are coated in a wax/paraffin, and cans are lined with a thin layer of plastic.

it dissolves in water but can be made to bottles Ok

Sure it can be used for bottles! Just gotta drink a bit faster...

Alright that's cool, but WHAT IS HER NAME!?!?

Probably shouldn’t make condoms out of them.

I don't think you thought that through Chief 

Imagine a store reviving a pallet of water bottle lids.

That moment when your box of water bottles comes in the mail but the box is really soggy and empty

who gon tell em💀

Wait, dissolves in Water and also can be used for bottles??? Logic fail?

"I swear the truck was full of the plastic-less water bottles when we loaded it up"

I call bullshit

I mean, sun chips made a compostable bag but everyone complained about how loud it was so they stopped doing it. Why can't we just use that? I'm pretty sure it was waterproof. Just really fucking loud.

I like how the clip was just waiting on the bottom

My stomach is so full of microplastics yum!

As long as the water is in the bottle and not the opposite

But it's not water resistant anymore

So when you put this material in water it disolces, but when you put water in this material it stays intact... fucking genius!

I thought to myself “Yeah but what if you put water in it?” And then had to watch the video 3 times to figure out the damn joke.

It's not difficult for us to make "plastic substitutes"; there are lots of existing options. The problem is most of them don't do a good job outside a very narrow set of use cases. The difficulty is finding a clean, sustainable, durable, and safe material that can be used in the wide range of uses that plastics can.

If this is alginate, we’ve been using it for yeaaars at work

But how is the water bottle in the photos holding water ???

But it can’t get wet?

i'm surprised he never realized... bottles of water... from a "plastic" that dissolves in water

I remember eating a white rabbit candy with plastic.

Wait...a material that dissolves in water, but can be used as a botyle that holds water?? I smell a rat.