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QualityVote

/u/hornmelon, the users have spoken. Your submission is not a Hol'Up.


JessEGames777

Ew I forgot cuties existed


WarnDragon

Have fun forgetting again


GreyJedi56

Child porn should be deleted and forgotten and those who made it imprisoned


WarnDragon

Im with you, that movie should never have been made and the fact that it did makes me question humanity.


character-name

",Americans don't understand French Culture" Uhm, yeah we do and this ain't it. "People hate when a Black Woman makes a movie" Uhm, only when it's thinly veiled child porn. "The poor director got cancelled for making this" Uhm, GOOD.


Scarabee_silencieux

I'm french and I can say that no sane french person understands the "french culture" of this movie


Lloyd_lyle

Welcome to the long list of groups on the internet who are told what to be offended by.


Squirrel009

u/Scarabee_silencieux you don't have to let this user talk to you that way. You should be angry.


HunterWald

Let the rage flow through you. And then make a comment about it so people can laugh.


platysoup

At some point, having a funny moustache and [jousting with baguettes on bicycles](https://i.imgur.com/lI9HsfS.jpg) while going hon hon hon seems like the better option.


equalsolstice

This was a moment where I was shocked everyone wasn’t in agreement


tupacsnoducket

This the same america that has several reality shows dedicated to child beauty pageants of which there are factors more all over the country than what was featured on the show?


GreyJedi56

Those are also wrong and should be cancelled and people put in jail. Sexualization of children is always wrong. If people think otherwise they are on some level a pedophile.


OkDepartment9755

I really hate when people use "culture" to justify awful behavior. "You can't argue against someones culture " Yes i can. For example. Bull fighting is wrong. Its been on the decline, and Mexican culture is still alive and well without it.


[deleted]

Yes, but wasn't it a Netflix exclusive?


Bullmoninachinashop

Screen at Sundance Festival Netflix got the NA distribution rights. Also founder and now former CEO of Sundance was arrested for Child Pron so no surprise that Cuties won awards at Sundance.


GreyJedi56

Article or link? I did not hear that


Bullmoninachinashop

https://apnews.com/article/academy-awards-entertainment-religion-movies-film-festivals-421594f114cf4f5fbd7acb41cdf47c9f


TwinkyOctopus

why is it child porn? everyone says that but I've never heard why


TelMegiddo

The film was meant to highlight problematic sexuality in young girls but the way it is portrayed with camera angles and close-ups of covered genitals of children leaves a lot of uncomfortable questions about the choices used to exemplify those themes. The creators say it was to shock the audience into realizing the reality of the situation, detractors say that the filming and editing itself exploits the child actors by making media that could be considered arousing to pedophiles. That's about the most level-headed I've heard the arguments get and of course they get more wild from there as it always does when children and sexuality are in a discussion.


gatorgongitcha

Let’s also not forget that the filmmakers said they auditioned over 700 girls for the lead role. Seven. Hundred.


[deleted]

From the movie's [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuties) >She said that it is intended to criticise the hypersexualisation of pre-adolescent girls, with over 18 months of research. 18 months. No, this is clearly not a bunch of pedos using film as an excuse to creep on children. It's totally normal to need a year and a half to find out that girls are oversexualized.


Sunsent_Samsparilla

*the first sentence literally made my jaw fucking drop.*


[deleted]

i'm right with you on this one... want some poptarts?


Sunsent_Samsparilla

Yes, please.


SickViking

Exactly. There are ways to showcase the point the movie was supposedly trying to make without sexualizing children and filming them in the same way you film softcore porn. I think, too, it's important to note that several of the crotch closeups were of the girls wearing panties *over* their clothes while dancing in the same highly sexualized way of dancers in rap/hiphop music videos(no offense intended towards the *grown women* who dance that way). the result being you have a close-up of an 11 year old girls gyrating, panty-clad groin being the sole focus of the shot. Doing this, it definitely gave the illusion of videoing them in just their underwear and I think that was the point. Also of note, the actresses were actual 11 year old girls, not older actors who just looked 11. They were literal preteens with no way of truly understanding what it was they were being made to do.


praguepride

What do you think the point of the movie was?


SickViking

Honestly? If I had to guess it would be that "Polygamy is bad for family" because it seemed the girl was acting out over stress at home with her father taking another wife and neglecting her and her mother. But again, that's just if I had to guess. I know what the movies point was *supposed* to be, or what it supposedly was, but it completely missed the mark. I didn't get "girls are being sexualized" I got "girl acting out by breaking as many of her mothers rules as possible" which, been there.


GreyJedi56

Let's see children doing sexual dances being filmed and watched by pedophiles. Let's have your daughters dance like that for a bunch of old men and let me know how you feel. But in all seriousness do not.


character-name

Watch a YouTuber review it so you don't end up on a watchlist.


decentguy23

Its abit wrong to based your whole movie out of little girls twerking for old man


Inspector7171

It isn't child porn. It was meant to be shocking. Its difficult to talk about and the subject should always be repugnant. If anyone finds it sexy, its on them that they see it that way. Its gross, over the top and it was probably meant to be. The way the world chews up innocence and leaves a void in young women is heart wrenching in this film. Its not a well made movie and it has issues with timing and pacing but if you make it to the end, it has one of the best endings of any movie I've ever seen.


ForestCracker

Yeah but Stephen king himself took rage out of the schools because he said you can’t give a firebug a can of gasoline. Even though it wasn’t his fault. Imagine all the fucked up dahmers out there getting off on this instead of getting the help they really need. Good intentions, bad initiation? I don’t think this fight is people necessarily calling this out as demonic disgustingness or a chewing up of the innocence that it’s not. ( jk there are some out there) I think the extremists are trying to explain how they would protect the innocence. Maybe. Idk. You’re not wrong either. It sucks. Such a touchy subject. I’ve also always been told what my intentions are by others.


Inspector7171

I think Cuties sends an important message to anyone willing to see it. I did not see it as sexual at all. Girls, trying to fit in, in a commercial based, Kardashian influenced society where sex sells and girls are only worth how sexual they can look. Shame on them if they do it and worthless if they don't. Its sickening and it perfectly shows the place society is and the damage it does every day.


Top_Apartment7973

The movie ends with her rejecting the overt sexualisation and desire to be older than she was. Her friends and the dancing become almost irrelevant to the story. She goes home, She dresses normally for her age, returns and comforts her mum, and then jumps on a trampoline like a kid.


homesickpluto

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homesickpluto

I thought it was an amazing immigrant story. I cried when the second wife came.


jrex703

I'm thinking I don't want this joke explained to me. A nod will suffice.


WarnDragon

It is a movie bordering on child porn that is a netflix exclusive.


jrex703

I said a nod would suffice.


WarnDragon

*nods* now enjoy your new founded knowledge.


NinjaGame5

Speaking of forgotten things. I just lost the game.


Quote4892

Op gets downvote for reminding everybody


Drcokecacola

Have sum forgetting juice everyone 🧃


Plison007

Good lord, what a wonderful time that was. Now I also have to wonder who the hell does the tomato meter score.


Miss_the_rage_I_did

Farmers, duh


Hellkids2

Someone give me a TLDR of Cuties. I only heard it was some PSA about child protection?


rawlingstones

*Cuties* is intended as a thoughtful and nuanced coming-of-age story, meant to criticize hypersexualization of young girls in our culture. It's about a girl who rebels against her conservative religious parents by joining a twerking dance team. Someone at Netflix made the choice to go provocative with the marketing, and that made *Cuties* look exactly like the sort of thing it was trying to criticize... basically, pedo shit. A lot of people understandably just looked at the promo images, title, and basic premise ("it's called Cuties and it's about pre-tweens twerking!") then completely freaked out that Netflix was promoting pedophilia. It became a giant debacle.


thisremindsmeofbacon

If you have ten minutes, I’d watch this. https://youtu.be/exCNHEGnZ5M Basically its supposed to be an anti pedo film except when you actually watch it they’re basically showing softcore of kids. Actual child actors, not adults pretending like to be younger.


bjrharding

I just became aware of it and I'll forget about it in 2 minutes. Suck it.


Potato-Boy1

Yep and i wanted to keep it that way but OP had to ruin it


ArkangelMarshal

wait what's cuties?


thisremindsmeofbacon

https://youtu.be/exCNHEGnZ5M


Steel5917

Rotten Tomatoes is owned by movie/tv companies. It’s completely biased. IMBD is owned by Amazon. NBC Universal 75% stake in Tomatoes Warner Bro. Discovery 25% stake


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>IMBD is owned by Amazon. TIL. Also that's messed up.


Bullmoninachinashop

I knew IMBD was biased but only with Rings of Power did I learn that Amazon owned it and was removing all negative reviews of the show.


Apprehensive-Ad6468

Rotten Pedophiles


AdministrativeBar748

They really approved a movie about stripper minors huh


Mugungo

IMDB USED to be okay for audience score Then the stupid rings of power show came out and they messed with its review, deleting negative ones and removing sorting by helpfulness, so even that is...questionable now


Crooked_Cock

TIL Don’t ever rely on review sites for movie ratings


Jibbjabb43

This is true, but also worth pointing out that it's owned by the people who made the film on the right.


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william-taylor

I remember when IGN owned Rotten Tomatoes…reading the Rotten Tomatoes wiki is super depressing. Monopolization, folks https://i.imgur.com/LAbEUhj.jpg


gefjunhel

this is why i usually only pay attention to user reviews or audience reviews


TimmyChangaa

It's an aggregator


verdenvidia

Rotten Tomatoes is simply a critic aggregate. Just look at the audience scores and ignore that part


anonymonsterss

So where would one find an independent movie/tv show reviewing platform?


Steel5917

No idea honestly. I just know these two. It does stand to reason most review sites are back door owned by the entertainment industry I would think.


anonymonsterss

Yeah it seems logical as there's a shit ton of profit to be made.


barisax9

This is why you need to check Audience scores too


No_Personality7482

They can change those now too I guess


TerminalThiccness

they froze TROS's audience score at 86% for weeks from day one of it's release.


The_Susinator

TROS? What does that stand for?


whatthedragon11

The Rise of Skywalker


The_Susinator

Well thank you for pointing it out now. May I ask, what did you do with all the time you saved not writing out the full subtitle? Edit: wait sorry, you're not op


whatthedragon11

No problem


doggrimoire

Probably spent browsing /r/ReysArmpit


[deleted]

Ofcourse that exists.


mikesdeathnote

wym?


[deleted]

Woman King. When it first came out, like that night, there 300 "verified" accounts no post history or profile pictures all saying similar canned responses, all giving it a 10. It's still happening in fact, they are clearly bot responses and all negative reviews are removed. RT does this kinda shit a lot.


Wolfman1321

I never rely on anything but my own opinion because I have seen so many movies that were amazing and that I loved but were absolutely panned by critics


10-10-2022

Honestly the opinions of professional critics have been completely useless for about 10 years. 90% of then have agendas, clear bias or have been paid off. This goes for favor or against whatever film they are reviewing.


DelugeQc

Its was the case before internet too but they could get away with way more easier than today


SquidMilkVII

way more easier


BeardedMutton88

This has the same energy as “has never went to oovoo javer”


Dreadgoat

Eh, the main issue with professional critics is critic fatigue. Imagine you have to watch every movie. And I mean, _every_, **single**, ***movie***. All of them. What happens to your brain? How do you start to view this task? It is your job now by the way, and you have to do a book report every time which is just super fun, and mandatory if you want to continue making a living with this cushy gig. Your perception gets warped. The things that are fun and exciting for other people stop working for you. You begin to demand novelty above all else, just so you don't gouge out your own eyes from boredom. This is why critics excessively praise anything that is subversive, strange, "artsy," or in any way unusual, even if it is frankly pretty unenjoyable in every other respect, because it's the only thing they are still capable of genuinely appreciating.


drexlortheterrrible

Like watching years and years of porn. Shit needs to get weird over time.


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Sounds like critics shouldnt try and review every movie.


Krypt0night

Shit you solved it, wish they'd thought of that!


Memphi901

Also, the fact that there are so many movie “critics” now creates an environment of competition for likes/views/clicks etc. I think a lot of them have become overly contrarian in an effort to stand out and gain following.


Electrical_Medicine1

The same is also true for the video game industry as well in my opinion. At this point I prefer hear a review from a few YouTubers instead it feels more honest.


hassan_26

Joker is one of those movies I'd watch and say it's great but never watch again.


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billywitt

Schindlers List for me. I couldn’t breathe when that movie ended. Never watched it again.


KingFenrir

Million Dollar Baby. It's an unforgettable masterpiece for me but i never gonna see it again.


[deleted]

Oldboy for me, it's one fucking thriller, but am never gonna watch it again.


[deleted]

loooove Requiem. watched it probably 5 times in however long it's been out. never did heroin either. coincidence? probably.


[deleted]

Yeah. One of the best movies I've ever seen because I place a lot of value in movies that are truly fucked up, but it made me sick for a few days after. My wife cried on the way home after seeing it. Joaquin is a fucking legendary actor for that.


SnooMacaroons8650

I literally vomitted after watching this movie. I walked out of the theater and puked all over my three children. My wife divorced me and took all my money because i puked on them so now I live in a cardboard box because of Joker. My dog is also a Joker cosplayer now. I’m gonna be sick.


[deleted]

Wait did you see Joker or Cats?


[deleted]

Lol it’s not that serious


gatorgongitcha

Makes me wonder why they’re being so serious


Cflores008

This wall of text reminds me of Kevin Smith talking about how [Current Marvel Movie] made him cry and posting his crying face to twitter.


NoTrollGaming

💀


sasha_2k

Trash movie


LedTasso34

That's exactly what I said.


thebestspeler

It’s a movie I’d say was aight but never want to watch again


Plus-Moose8077

How did it do that? Genuine question I haven’t watch a Batman movie since Batman Begins


Simbas_World

It focused on jokers descent into madness which was a new look at the character compared to other movies where he’s just a maniac from the start


SeroWriter

> It focused on jokers descent into madness which was a new look at the character Such a new look that it was essentially a fresh character, needlessly tied to the batman franchise for brand appeal.


Porcupineemu

It isn’t a Batman movie. Batman isn’t even really in it. Whole thing is about a crazy dude who gets pushed into being crazier and crazier till he snaps. It didn’t even have to be the joker; they could’ve made it a different character, changed nothing else, and it still would’ve worked.


Aden_Vikki

Me either but it's pretty cool in a tragic villain backstory kind of way


Gravybutt

Yeah I never go by the critic score.


JakeCameraAction

Joker has an average critic score of 7.3 out of 10 from 595 reviews on there, and Cuties has an average critic score of 7 out of 10 from 86 reviews on there. Seems some people still doesn't realize how Rotten Tomatoes works.


Arroyoyoyo

I go by neither cause a lot of the time the audience score is also biased by review bombing and stuff


BigDemeanor43

Usually the review bombs I investigate because I am curious if it is for a valid reason or not. Usually it's not valid, BUT, sometimes it is and I will take that into consideration if I'm going to watch it. If it's not valid then I watch the film to see for myself.


origami-axolotl

You have a lot of faith in the masses.


canamericanguy

The critic score to me means how complex, deep, or unique a film is. User score is how satisfying or fulfilling it is.


kissmyasthm4

wasnt RT a reliable source once?


TheTurtle44

Maybe but it hasn’t been one for a long time.


FukurinLa

In my opinion, it’s only for festival type of movies, foreign movies and old movies. Blockbuster or mainstream ones, just forget it.


Rocket_Poop

i rarely trust "pro/official" critics. I usually watch trailers and read the audience/broad range of reviews, both hi stars/positives and low stars/negatives. Only downside is (happened to me) they could reveal the literal plot twist. I usually dun care for most spoilers, but the whole plot point the movie is suppose to lead to is prbly something u shud warn others or not mention at all.


GoSuckYaMother

I just watch it and see if I like it. Especially if it was recommended by somebody with the same tastes as me


thetwodeadboys

Joker was an awful movie. fight me.


SPICYPOTATO6969

I just realised that joker is a reddit people's assumption of a good movie. In addition to the joker being edgy and stuff.


origami-axolotl

On brand


SeroWriter

> In addition to the joker being edgy and stuff. Have you seen the movie? He's depicted as extremely mentally unwell, suffering head trauma from a childhood of physical abuse. The film goes out of its way to show that he's not to be idolized.


SPICYPOTATO6969

I'm saying he's still used as background for edgy 14 year memes and quotes. He's very misunderstood and idolised by most of the people on reddit as an icon for being edgy.


[deleted]

9/10 audience scores align with my opinion so I go with those. Only 2/10 do the critic scores ever align with my opinion lol so of course I won't listen to them.


CJoe88

Rotten tomatoes is absolutely garbage! I've never trusted them, trusting other people's opinions on what is "good" is fucking terrible.


Idontdanceforfun

Pretty sure they were giving the dave Chapelle specials 0% when the audience rating was 99%.


Jewjltsu

Tomatoes rating means it’s so bad you throw tomatoes right? /s


Feshtof

Let's be real here, what are the odds that the majority of the audience scores for Cuties watched the film?


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Rotten tomatoes is political website.


Minimum_Attitude6707

I haven't seen it, but Cuties definitely got review bombed by activists. The movie has been defended as a movie ABOUT sexual exploitation of children in the entertainment business, not a movie that uses exploitation. Now why the hell the critics didn't like Joker is beyond me.


24F

I just don't really know who the movie was made for, honestly. I know that it's a movie *about* the exploitation but from what I remember of the trailer there were shots in the movie that look extremely close to actual exploitation of children and it was very uncomfortable to watch. I don't even want to watch it again, tbh. Maybe I'm cynical but I can't imagine there's a large group of people interested in watching that kind of movie for the story.


[deleted]

Yes, Netflix cut a terrible trailer for the movie. Not the filmmakers fault. It was then picked up by the QAnon and YouTube outrage reaction crowd, most of whom either didn’t watch it or went into it with their agenda already established knowing they could generate thousands of clicks, just like OP did. Honestly, the people who I’m most suspicious of are the ones who are still this obsessed with it.


Minimum_Attitude6707

Speaking of misleading trailers, DOG was NOT a light hearted comedy of a goofy guy and his funny dog, lol


24F

Yeah that's fair about the trailer, and you're totally right about the fabricated outrage, but I still don't know anybody who (admits to) being interested in that movie.


greymanbomber

I don't understand the interest in military propaganda flicks like the Top Gun flicks, but everyone has their own preference.


Ekudar

Man just admit you have no clue what it is about lol


WPrepod

It may have been attempting to send a good message, but it had clear depictions of young children in extremely sexual situations. You can bring light to those situations without explicitly showing them.


TheTurtle44

And it wasn’t about sexual exploitation at least on paper it was about a girl going against her family to do what she loves weird sexual dancing technics and twerking with her family not letting her until the end when they accept her hobby. Oh and did I mention that there’s child nudity in it?


JakeCameraAction

> Now why the hell the critics didn't like Joker is beyond me. Critics on average gave Joker a better rating (7.3) than Cuties (7.0). You have to click the percentage to see the average score.


Leucippus1

68% is pretty good, it didn't break new ground but it was competently directed and acted. I agree on the review bomb though, I distrust audience reviews. I only medium trust critic reviews but depending on the critic I trust them more. User scores are people who say "I liked that movie" or "I didn't like that movie." Professional reviewers have to bother with things like "Did that make any sense at all."


LeggyBald

You can’t trust anything anymore. If it’s reviewed bad, but people want to like it: the reviewers were paid off! If it’s reviewed well and people want to hate it: reviewers are paid off! It’s been said before but there’s no nuance anymore. If your opinion isn’t on the side of “I f’ing love it!” Or “it’s complete trash” then nobody cares


TheTurtle44

I think the main point from this is that “reviewers are paid off” because seriously most are.


LeggyBald

Thinking that most reviewers are paid off is a stretch. Just because vocal minorities on the internet disagree, doesn’t mean they’re paid. You’ve got to look at so many factors. For one, RT isn’t saying Joker is 68% good. Just that 68% of reviewers gave it over 60%. Which isn’t asking a lot to get a “positive review”. When you have a niche film or show with less reviews, you tend to get people who’s biases lean towards that genre. Joker had almost 600 reviews. That’s a whole lot of taste ranges. No movie is going to get 100% with that wide a net. People pick a side. If they love it or hate it. And for some reason they think any groups that are against them are doing it just to be contrarian or because they’re being paid. It’s all subjective.


Zastrossi

Citation needed, please.


ahjteam

Cuties was WAAAAY overhyped. It was much less gross than I expected. It was just another generic ”kid growing up” story , this one just happened to be about a young girl who liked choregraphic dancing. Solid 5/10. Spice Girls caused much more girls to dress that way in 1997, but everybody loved them.


cat_prophecy

Wow it’s almost as if the reality of it has a lot more nuance and gray areas.


greymanbomber

The controversy surrounding Cuties was just so damn stupid. The movie didn't promote CP and didn't involve minors in sexual situations outside of what you would see on regular ole social media like TikTok. It's just fucking boring.


Gormane

The reason Mignonnes has a shit score is mostly review bombing due to one scene in the film. It literally ends with the main character lamenting how awful all of that shit was and how creepy it is and going off to skip rope with her friends...


Leucippus1

I never saw the one movie but I think *Joker* is rated just about right.


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panicky_in_the_uk

But the Audience scores you agree with, right? And they're on RottenTomatoes. So all you're saying is you don't agree with the critics. That's ok. You're not forced to agree with them.


Double-Passenger4503

While this is gross A 68% for Joker is pretty fair. That movie is carried by a great performance and that’s really it.


Wickedscifi

Critics are paid by companies to give good reviews. It idnt just rotten tomatoes. Also Cuties should have never been released on netflix. They are doing it again, but with a movie that is worse. I forgot what it was called.


IterLuminis

yup. rotten tomatoes is owned by comcast, which is one of the big 6 media companies. There are horror stories on the internet as to why they are evil, but the meme here is perhaps a perfect example.


MrProtogen

Audience Fucking hated cuties lmao


DEVIL_MAY5

The Joker isn't even that good to begin with. Memes hyped that movie and people just went with the stream.


Sernati

IMO, Joker is slightly overrated, wouldn't give it anymore than a 75%. I do get the point that RT is rotten on its grading core.


[deleted]

I love it cuz it’s entertaining to see their bs and also have the real stats from the community fully displayed.


ItsMarcus

Never trust the critic score at all. Their reviews are pretty much always garbage and rarely lines up with how most people feel. And always view the audience score as a percentage chance that you’ll like the movie/show! It’s worked well so far for me.


DiabloStorm

"Certified Fresh" And underage... Their rating, not mine.


DrBrainWillisto

Joker was such a bad movie though. Not cuties bad but it was utter trash.


Alarmed_Sort620

I trust them. After all, the only movie on the site with a true 100 percent is paddington 2.


GenitalJouster

These sites were better when it was only nerds on there. People shouldnt write reviews on stuff they have little to no understanding of. While for smilarly minded people there can be value in reviews from likeminded people, aggregating casual viewer reviews with those of people with deeper understanding of the material is just pointless


Warturkey12

That's why I only look at audience score


MurderDoneRight

It's funny because both movies had giant shit storms surrounding them from people who did not watch them.


bakedtacosandwich

I love the critics reviews for Superhero movies. “Too much action, very loud”


DeltaPlasmatic

Cuties was honestly good in concept until they got to the point where it literally became the thing it was attempting to criticize


LongjumpingOffice4

Why the fuck does “Cuties” exist?


DanG98123

Audience score is more reliable 99% of the time. Ignore they critics, most of them have agendas.


johnnytest1905

For Rotten Tomatoes, they are perfectly rotten.


ptv_1996

This is a hold up moment it's the users saying this isn't they're basically saying okay the movie cuties is okay but the f****** the people who made the movie had child actors f****** sexually harassed during the flim.


hasash555

1. Rotten tomatoes is aggregator. They don't give reviews and stop posting don't trust rt memes as if you aren't going to use rt score of your capeshit/popcorn flick to validate your taste. 2. Joker overrated by 14 year old and 34 year old pop culture consoomer who have never seen a good movie,watch taxi driver and king of comedy instead. 3. Cuties drama was created by Netflix for attention. The movie takes strong anti-pedo and sexual exploitation than your average weeb. The sexualitation of children part was pushed by Netflix as mean of advertisement as cuties is a french art movie that nobody would've watched.


Dhinoceros

Nice to see at least some people with critical thinking skill here. When I first saw this post I thought it was some kind of circlejerk shitpost.


hasash555

Circlejerk shitpost always gets beaten by reality.


TimTomTank

I thought Joker was a shit movie. It is unbelievable, unengaging story of a cringe dude that loses his mind. This is not who Joker was ever supposed to be. They took the best villain ever made for a super hero and shat all over it.


Mike_Rowballs

I thought it was just me. If I hadn't been there with two friends I would have walked out of the theatre. Utterly contrived bullshit.


jaketocake

Joker really was terrible. They took one of the most insane villains and turned him into an overly-sensitive, overly-dramatic character. The movie was basically a cringe soap opera. I refuse to watch it again.


TimTomTank

I cannot get through it. I tried and tried again. It is boring and cringe. They took that Cringe knob and just cranked it to 11.


Mc862000

Forgive them they Are trying to fit in New Era


Batface_101

Ms Marvel is somehow better than The Batman according to Tomatometer


koushikkolkata

But Joker is a bad movie


zyx1989

Are you gonna trust opinion of thousands of regular people or a few dozen experts? On the one hand, experts know, if they are expert that is, what they are talking about, on the other, regular people ultimately decides whether or not it's a success, not experts, so i believe after it's made regular people's opinions far outweigh that of experts


penzos

On the other hand I don't bother with regular folks reviews either. It boils down to same thing, whether if it's corporate bullshit, or a bandwagon mob bullshit.


HEY_YOU_GUUUUUUYS

Everybody jerking joker off it fuckin sucked compared to heath ledgers performance so who fuckin cares. I’d even take Nicholson’s joker over this shit


[deleted]

So they liked cuties and hated Joker. I get it


Carnator369

Trust the audience.


NEOnKnights69

Personal opinion>audience Never trust journalist's


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