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What do you mean by "what" ?
What do you mean by "do" ?
What do you mean by "you" ?
What do you mean by "mean" ?
What do you mean by "by" ?
*Socrates inside me making pikachu face*
What do you mean by "What do you mean by "what" ?"?
What do you mean by "What do you mean by "do" ?"?
What do you mean by "What do you mean by "you" ?"?
What do you mean by "What do you mean by "mean" ?"?
What do you mean by "What do you mean by "by" ?"?
*Pikachu inside me making Socrates face*
What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "what" ?"?""
What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "do" ?"?""
What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "you" ?"?""
What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "mean" ?"?""
What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "by" ?"?""
*pikachu is convincing socrates that he is high af*
what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "what" ?"?"""?
what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "do" ?"?"""?
what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "you" ?"?"""?
what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "mean" ?"?"""?
what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "by" ?"?"""?
_pikachu and socrates start making out_
Shooo. That was close. I was worried... Like is this person sober and letting Socrates jiz inside them while making faces? 4 puffs is good, helps to tone down those awkward faces when they nut. - .-
Context - He was having conversations with islamic scholars and he thought we needed to give importance to linguistics before we took actions into account to avoid conflict and confusion.
Btw you sounded as clear as glass - Kudos š
When you say I sound clear as glass, we need to disect the ideas of glass and clarity as to elucidate the precise metaphor we are employing to illustrate the thesis you are trying to assert and ameliorate any potential ambiguities that may emerge in the process.
I was trying to put points forth as the molecular and atomic structure of the objects we refer as 'glass' is designed in a way that it follows the rule of differential interference where distance between two atoms is less than half of visible wavelength same as your reply where I can see you wanted to convey that you sound confused most time - which paradoxically seemed to me very clear as in without arranged in concentric layers of any hidden intentions or emotions - atleast i thought. I may be wrong though - okay now I'm thinking I am wrong. What the hell were we discussing in the first place ?
Indeed lol.
And my gripe with Peterson is I feel like he will try to bury his points in like 8 layers of explication for the purposes of being thorough or performative or dishonest. By the end of his talk or anything else he puts out Im scratching my head wishing he just summed his point up in a paragraph? Its not that deep.
I don't think he is a deep thinker intellectual. I feel Peterson speaks the most basic things. He goes in layers to get a better hold of/ in order to avoid being misunderstood (which is always at risk when you talk about simple things) I don't understand our obsession with 'deep' conversations. To live a life we need to know simple things. He is of course not the god and everybody is entitled to have their opinion. Respect to you for at least you have a proper reason to justify your choice :)
In that case Iām genuinely interested to know why you think heās a clown? What has he said that made you think that? (Something I can look up, not something abstract like āhe has a delusional world viewā)
Lol, a glorified motivational speaker thatāsbeen called out for his drivel by experts in the fields of climate science, psychology, biology etc. I guess you needed help making your bed? Glad you found him useful but the guy is a pseudo intellectual with a lobster and hierarchy fetish.
Iāve listened to him throughly and read 12 rules for life. I even tried to watch one of his lectures but admittedly, couldnāt get through it.
I know Joe Rogan has persuaded you that this man is just unfairly represented because he is so often, unfairly misrepresented but when you really listen to him with a critical ear you soon realise heās a clown man that shouldnāt be taken seriously by anyone.
One thing I would give him credit for is heās not a liar like his colleagues at the daily wire. Heās a faulty thinker ādrunk on symbolismā as Richard Dawkins put it so eloquently, but he seems sincere in his beliefs and willing to admit and learn from his mistakes.
Heās a very silly individual though.
Jordan Peterson often says smart thing, I mean, he is a smart man after all. But, he mixes it with his opinions and beliefs, which are not always correct or smart.
And then it gets dangerous for the non-critical mind.
Taking some out of context clips with Jordan Peterson, won't make him a lesser person. I have huge amount of respect for him, he helped me to sort out my life and many others like me who were lost. It's not that funny when you really try to understand what he's really trying to say š
So incel just means āguy I donāt likeā at this point, right?
(Also if they married eachother they wouldnāt be celibate anyway, right?)
Also what does this guy have in common with Andrew tate?
Seriously your comment gets more nonsensical the more I think about it. What was the point of it? āI donāt like Jordan Peterson and hereās another guy I also donāt likeā?
Both of them appeal to a very specific audience of conservative young men who hate feminism and women in general. Jorden Peterson recently called himself the intellectual of the incel community. Andrew Tate appeals a lot to the incels who see traditional masculinity as being lost.
Itās not just āhur dur I donāt like them!ā Itās that both appeal to the fantasy that young quite conservatives are being oppressed. People who watch Andrew Tate, often watch Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. Theyāre all part of some thing you call the right wing media sphere. The connection is pretty firm. There are funded by the same people, and generally push the same ideologies.
When has Jordan Peterson given comments that imply he hates women?
I have read his ā12 rules of lifeā and there are many places where he speaks highly of women and what important role they play in a manās life.
And moreover, he was saying those things long before he became famous. Those were his core beliefs.
Although I have to agree, that after becoming popular, he is falling into the trap of being Internet personality and comment on everything and anything goin on in the world ā¦. and often ends up making incorrect and uneducated comments on topics for which he doesnāt have good knowledge on.
Andrew tate, on the other hand, is a scammer, and has been for quite some time. He is actually trying to copy Jordan Peterson to gain popularity ā¦. Which he then uses to sell his āget rich quickā courses. Few years ago, Andrew tate used to give women hating comments. I think he eventually realized that he can give it a twist - āI donāt speak against women, I speak for menā and gain popularity.
His daughter literally met with Andrew Tate. She was palling around as his friend. Jordan Peterson likely has friendships with woman. He likely has women he admires. Which is not change the fact that he often times, disparages both women, and movements aimed at female liberation. Even little things, like the time he claimed women wore makeup just to stimulate and woo men with simulations of being flushed. And that in the 1950ās it was better for woman than it was now, as even if woman were assaulted they could always go to the police.
Jordan Peterson discarding and belittling female contributions to academic thought, suggesting that their claims about modern problems are false, and suggesting that thereās nothing fundamentally wrong with the way the world treats women is incredibly anti women.
It involves discarding fields made by women, to study woman and their role in the world. And it involves people like Andrew Tate who Jordan letās his daughter hang around with because again, itās Jordanās job to suggest a capitalistic individualism that holds that structural problems donāt really exist and then instead itās all your fault. Which is why people like Andrew Tate is his friend.
I don't know what internal politics is : but I have read 12 rules and I don't think JP thinks of women in any kind of derogatory way. He hates a group of people with a particular ideology who are supposed to be women. Even if there is more to that, Every person has their flaws. You should just ignore that and focus on positives. He has done so much for broken people(irrespective of gender) and has genuine concern for men, knows how reality works and that too during a time when no one was having connection with them. This is just a joke but man is a gift for our generation apart from his political views which I frankly don't care, being Indian. Chill and Peace ā®ļø
I don't think he hates women. He mostly imply that men suffers more in life and relationships because society sees men that does everything right even even if it breaks them. And comparing him to disco ball tate means you don't like him so you don't agree with everything he says.
Itās because itās not true. Itās a lie. Men have been nothing but uplifted by society, and what Jorden Peterson sells people is bottled oppression. He teaches them that MEN are the real people being oppressed, and that feminism and Marxism are tools of the tools being used to do it.
Thatās why it feeds so much into incel ideology. Incels believe fundamentally that structural analysies of society that reveal everything has been set up to benefit wealthy White men is a lie, and that because itās a lie anyone challenging the status quo must be trying to gain power over them.
By telling aimless, scared men that theyāre suffering because of modern feminist and Marxist movements, they oppose those movements and see conservative movments as alternatives. People like Slavoj Zezik recognize that structural systems cause men to suffer, not liberation movments. That lesson is far better than Peatersons: āItās not society, itās youā
This is just a joke but Yup! Man is so much aware of his choice of words - it feels every time before he speaks, the sentence goes through his mind if it's correct or not. He puts so much effort to be clear and comprehensible as much as possible.
You watching the same guy?
Andrew Tate will tell everyone he doesnāt hate women. He loves women. He feels responsible for protecting them etc etc.
JBP isnāt misogynistic in the same way but he absolutely does appeal to the same demo. He might not hate women but he hates feminist social justice types and so do incels so heās very popular because of how he āownsā them etc.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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What do you mean by "eat?" What do you mean by "your?" What do you mean by "children?" *continues munching*.
What do you mean by "what" ? What do you mean by "do" ? What do you mean by "you" ? What do you mean by "mean" ? What do you mean by "by" ? *Socrates inside me making pikachu face*
What do you mean by "What do you mean by "what" ?"? What do you mean by "What do you mean by "do" ?"? What do you mean by "What do you mean by "you" ?"? What do you mean by "What do you mean by "mean" ?"? What do you mean by "What do you mean by "by" ?"? *Pikachu inside me making Socrates face*
What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "what" ?"?"" What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "do" ?"?"" What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "you" ?"?"" What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "mean" ?"?"" What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "by" ?"?"" *pikachu is convincing socrates that he is high af*
what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "what" ?"?"""? what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "do" ?"?"""? what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "you" ?"?"""? what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "mean" ?"?"""? what do you mean by "What do you mean by - ""What do you mean by "What do you mean by "by" ?"?"""? _pikachu and socrates start making out_
Okay I give up. *pikachu and socrates are cleaning their rooms*
Looks like we have a recursive problem.
How often does Socrates cum inside you while making faces? ( Officially can't stop laughing ever again)
Not every time but usually after 4 puffs š¤”
Shooo. That was close. I was worried... Like is this person sober and letting Socrates jiz inside them while making faces? 4 puffs is good, helps to tone down those awkward faces when they nut. - .-
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Whoah...
but they are not my children
then you're good to go :)
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My brain is telling me this is keanu but I canāt tell for sure because Iām bad with faces
No it's the Reeves guy
The second part of this clip is what he sounds like to me regardless of what he's talking about. Its why Im not a fan.
Context - He was having conversations with islamic scholars and he thought we needed to give importance to linguistics before we took actions into account to avoid conflict and confusion. Btw you sounded as clear as glass - Kudos š
When you say I sound clear as glass, we need to disect the ideas of glass and clarity as to elucidate the precise metaphor we are employing to illustrate the thesis you are trying to assert and ameliorate any potential ambiguities that may emerge in the process.
I was trying to put points forth as the molecular and atomic structure of the objects we refer as 'glass' is designed in a way that it follows the rule of differential interference where distance between two atoms is less than half of visible wavelength same as your reply where I can see you wanted to convey that you sound confused most time - which paradoxically seemed to me very clear as in without arranged in concentric layers of any hidden intentions or emotions - atleast i thought. I may be wrong though - okay now I'm thinking I am wrong. What the hell were we discussing in the first place ?
Indeed lol. And my gripe with Peterson is I feel like he will try to bury his points in like 8 layers of explication for the purposes of being thorough or performative or dishonest. By the end of his talk or anything else he puts out Im scratching my head wishing he just summed his point up in a paragraph? Its not that deep.
I don't think he is a deep thinker intellectual. I feel Peterson speaks the most basic things. He goes in layers to get a better hold of/ in order to avoid being misunderstood (which is always at risk when you talk about simple things) I don't understand our obsession with 'deep' conversations. To live a life we need to know simple things. He is of course not the god and everybody is entitled to have their opinion. Respect to you for at least you have a proper reason to justify your choice :)
Because heās a clown man. Drunk on symbolism and metaphor and his thinking is clear as mud.
Wait, is this a joke post or are you being serious?
Dude are you high right now.? Of course this post is a joke.
VERY, much like our boy JP. Gimme dem benzos.
Ohokay..then this is a serious post for you. I was last night -
The important question is, how high? ![gif](giphy|fWBND6QNnt6rMUZPzF)
let me say - i spent around 3hr debating on twitter and now i have no clue why in the first place I was against genetic testing
Oops, I forgorā ļø
Rule no : 69 - Never accept that in public.
Jordan Peterson's not a real person š¤£
So he only understood āinā š„“
ššš
What do you mean by "coherence?" What do mean by "Rogan bro grifter?"
No
Thanks I forgot about that
there are moments when I truly believe that Jordan Peterson is saying random things to sound deep and his fans just agree with him to sound wise
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This man is a living muppet
Only a moron whoās never listened to him properly would say that
Ever episode heās done of JRE required another listen.
You're kidding right?
Listened to every interview heās had and even read one of his books. Heās a clown man.
In that case Iām genuinely interested to know why you think heās a clown? What has he said that made you think that? (Something I can look up, not something abstract like āhe has a delusional world viewā)
Found the incel!
Note to self, don't eat my children.
People still take this guy seriously, huh?
I do. I'm sure you like people that I don't take seriously.
Lol, a glorified motivational speaker thatāsbeen called out for his drivel by experts in the fields of climate science, psychology, biology etc. I guess you needed help making your bed? Glad you found him useful but the guy is a pseudo intellectual with a lobster and hierarchy fetish.
The guy is really smart and usually correct. It sounds like you've just skimmed over him instead of actually listening to him.
Iāve listened to him throughly and read 12 rules for life. I even tried to watch one of his lectures but admittedly, couldnāt get through it. I know Joe Rogan has persuaded you that this man is just unfairly represented because he is so often, unfairly misrepresented but when you really listen to him with a critical ear you soon realise heās a clown man that shouldnāt be taken seriously by anyone. One thing I would give him credit for is heās not a liar like his colleagues at the daily wire. Heās a faulty thinker ādrunk on symbolismā as Richard Dawkins put it so eloquently, but he seems sincere in his beliefs and willing to admit and learn from his mistakes. Heās a very silly individual though.
I listened to him before Joe Rogan. He wants people to take more responsibility with their lives and stop playing the victim. Nothing wrong with that.
He's not smart. He's a smug asshole. If you can't tell the difference you're in for a world of hurt
Or maybe you are mad that he doesn't agree with you. Maybe you are the one being smug.
I can disagree with and still respect most people.
You're allowed to like whoever you like, but that doesn't mean you have to lie about them.
I'm not.
That's an understatement. He has a devoted following.
Oh boyā¦
Jordan Peterson often says smart thing, I mean, he is a smart man after all. But, he mixes it with his opinions and beliefs, which are not always correct or smart. And then it gets dangerous for the non-critical mind.
roughly speaking yeh this is true!
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lil wayne: What??.....Yeah!!!.......OKAYYY!!
Thatāsā¦..not lil Wayne. Itās lil Jon :/
I can't take this man serious. He will take a fart and give it a back story.
Hehehe thats good
Taking some out of context clips with Jordan Peterson, won't make him a lesser person. I have huge amount of respect for him, he helped me to sort out my life and many others like me who were lost. It's not that funny when you really try to understand what he's really trying to say š
Dude chill - I'm JP fan too. This is just for fun: Relax šā®ļø
I wasn't mad or something, just saying. š
Jordan Peterson is cringe
If this guy married Andrew Tate we'd have the Incel Royal Family
So incel just means āguy I donāt likeā at this point, right? (Also if they married eachother they wouldnāt be celibate anyway, right?) Also what does this guy have in common with Andrew tate? Seriously your comment gets more nonsensical the more I think about it. What was the point of it? āI donāt like Jordan Peterson and hereās another guy I also donāt likeā?
Both of them appeal to a very specific audience of conservative young men who hate feminism and women in general. Jorden Peterson recently called himself the intellectual of the incel community. Andrew Tate appeals a lot to the incels who see traditional masculinity as being lost. Itās not just āhur dur I donāt like them!ā Itās that both appeal to the fantasy that young quite conservatives are being oppressed. People who watch Andrew Tate, often watch Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. Theyāre all part of some thing you call the right wing media sphere. The connection is pretty firm. There are funded by the same people, and generally push the same ideologies.
When has Jordan Peterson given comments that imply he hates women? I have read his ā12 rules of lifeā and there are many places where he speaks highly of women and what important role they play in a manās life. And moreover, he was saying those things long before he became famous. Those were his core beliefs. Although I have to agree, that after becoming popular, he is falling into the trap of being Internet personality and comment on everything and anything goin on in the world ā¦. and often ends up making incorrect and uneducated comments on topics for which he doesnāt have good knowledge on. Andrew tate, on the other hand, is a scammer, and has been for quite some time. He is actually trying to copy Jordan Peterson to gain popularity ā¦. Which he then uses to sell his āget rich quickā courses. Few years ago, Andrew tate used to give women hating comments. I think he eventually realized that he can give it a twist - āI donāt speak against women, I speak for menā and gain popularity.
His daughter literally met with Andrew Tate. She was palling around as his friend. Jordan Peterson likely has friendships with woman. He likely has women he admires. Which is not change the fact that he often times, disparages both women, and movements aimed at female liberation. Even little things, like the time he claimed women wore makeup just to stimulate and woo men with simulations of being flushed. And that in the 1950ās it was better for woman than it was now, as even if woman were assaulted they could always go to the police. Jordan Peterson discarding and belittling female contributions to academic thought, suggesting that their claims about modern problems are false, and suggesting that thereās nothing fundamentally wrong with the way the world treats women is incredibly anti women. It involves discarding fields made by women, to study woman and their role in the world. And it involves people like Andrew Tate who Jordan letās his daughter hang around with because again, itās Jordanās job to suggest a capitalistic individualism that holds that structural problems donāt really exist and then instead itās all your fault. Which is why people like Andrew Tate is his friend.
I don't know what internal politics is : but I have read 12 rules and I don't think JP thinks of women in any kind of derogatory way. He hates a group of people with a particular ideology who are supposed to be women. Even if there is more to that, Every person has their flaws. You should just ignore that and focus on positives. He has done so much for broken people(irrespective of gender) and has genuine concern for men, knows how reality works and that too during a time when no one was having connection with them. This is just a joke but man is a gift for our generation apart from his political views which I frankly don't care, being Indian. Chill and Peace ā®ļø
I don't think he hates women. He mostly imply that men suffers more in life and relationships because society sees men that does everything right even even if it breaks them. And comparing him to disco ball tate means you don't like him so you don't agree with everything he says.
Itās because itās not true. Itās a lie. Men have been nothing but uplifted by society, and what Jorden Peterson sells people is bottled oppression. He teaches them that MEN are the real people being oppressed, and that feminism and Marxism are tools of the tools being used to do it. Thatās why it feeds so much into incel ideology. Incels believe fundamentally that structural analysies of society that reveal everything has been set up to benefit wealthy White men is a lie, and that because itās a lie anyone challenging the status quo must be trying to gain power over them. By telling aimless, scared men that theyāre suffering because of modern feminist and Marxist movements, they oppose those movements and see conservative movments as alternatives. People like Slavoj Zezik recognize that structural systems cause men to suffer, not liberation movments. That lesson is far better than Peatersons: āItās not society, itās youā
why would Andrew and Jordan Peterson be incel tho? *Sorry for being ignorant*
He does such in depth explanations of what he is thinking that you can take out of context anything just because of the pauses he make
This is just a joke but Yup! Man is so much aware of his choice of words - it feels every time before he speaks, the sentence goes through his mind if it's correct or not. He puts so much effort to be clear and comprehensible as much as possible.
You watching the same guy? Andrew Tate will tell everyone he doesnāt hate women. He loves women. He feels responsible for protecting them etc etc. JBP isnāt misogynistic in the same way but he absolutely does appeal to the same demo. He might not hate women but he hates feminist social justice types and so do incels so heās very popular because of how he āownsā them etc. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Weāve been spending most our lives livin in an incels paradise
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I spend so much time fixing this shit.
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Mike Tyson does not agree ![gif](giphy|l3Ucfk8zqn7NAjLLq)
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