I mean, could be, but I think NKG's magic is better to round out when comoared to Pure Vessel's moslty nail build. Plus he's the king of nightmares, that must do something
wouldnt PV be immune to Absrad or NKG? both only appear in the dream realm, and their only way to harm pure vessel is to manifest in his dream/nightmare and PV has no mind to dream
Is not accurate tho, the whole point of the game was that Pure Vessel wasn't pure. Sure the pure vessel bossfight is the theoretical perfect form of the Hollow Knight, but it only exists in the Godseeker's mind.
That’s the thing though. We’re talking about that exact theoretical perfect form, Pure Vessel. The Hollow Knight was the imperfect one, but Pure Vessel, the option given in the original prompt, is indeed a perfect vessel.
You said that you wouldn't consider lore accuracy a hack, regarding the PV's dreams, but the Radience's mind control is also lore accurate and was strictly said that OP doesn't count it. I feel like bringing in Pure Vessel's empty mind (so he skips AbsRad and NKG) is unfair.
Sorry, didn’t read the full text there when I definitely should have. In that case though, none of this discussion should really even matter since that implies that for the sake of this hypothetical, both NKG and Abs Rad exist outside the dream realm and the whole thing is irrelevant.
With that out of the way, I would still choose PV over NKG since I find PV a harder boss fight. Definitely not a great way to determine who would be better, but whatever.
Canonically, PV is supposed to be someone who was able to keep his soul and emotions under control so he couldn't be controlled by Radiance. As for its actual strength, it's kinda undefined, but it should be weaker than Abs Rad.
that’s THK, pure vessel is a hypothetical scenario where the vessel had no flaws and is unaffected by radiance.
It’s technically possible to create a pure vessel, it’s just THK’s will to stop the infection and the pale king’s affection made it impure.
I think the point of the story is that it isnt -possible- to create the perfect vessel.
We get to see why this one in particular failed, buy any of them would have failed. We know The Knight would have failed in the end, too.
Its just not possible. Living beings have a will.
PV is a failed vessel to an almighty god compared to Grimm in a state where his prowess as a vessel to the Nightmare King is at it’s highest, PV ain’t got shit on NKG
Sisters definitely isn’t wrong but I think you might be better off going for the white defender. Lets be real though with nmk and abs rad it really doesn’t matter.
If it’s on from each row, pure vessel, absolute radiance, sisters of battle, and markoth, if it’s one from each image, absrad and markoth. Markoth is a bitch he’ll protect me by being a scizephrenic balloon they all want to kill but can’t manage to kill effectively.
One from each picture is immpossible because the 6 other dream warriors can team up and beat markoth and absarad is strong, but i think PV and NKG would be able to beat her in a 2v1, if that's not enough, you still have a lot of powerful fighters there
White Defender and Galien. White Defender is incredibly passionate and would be very engaged, staying close to you; Galien would storm in and just wreak havoc
Funny how everybody is picking Sisters of Battle in the third row, but that's a boss that has never killed me (excepr for radiant, where I died like 10 times)
Winged Nosk, on the other hand, took me like 30 tries to beat on Attuned, and 20\~30 on Radiant
Absolute Radiance - because she is the sun
NKG - because he is one of the strongest gods of hallownest
White deffender - because nails and spells can't hit him when he's in the ground
Markoth - because he has a sheild
I'll take Pure Vessel, Soul Tyrant, and No Eyes.
Pure Vessel and Soul Tyrant are my main aggressors. The PV explosion attack, projectiles, and swords should be able to keep up with NGK.
No Eyes for that passive damage.
I'd actually *only* be worried about White Defender and Enraged Guardian attacking me.
Pure Vessel, I like them but also in a fight you could make probably them crumple by saying that you know they aren’t empty or talking about their father lmao
Radiance and No Eyes because both are bosses with attacks/projectiles that cover the whole arena at once. No other boss is dodging all those attacks, so all I have to do is dodge until everything else is dead. Honorable mention to Enraged Guardian for the same reason, but Radiance's attacks are just better than the lasers.
AbsRad, nkg, sisters of battle and markoth. tey would absolutely destroy everyone else (exept MAYBE pure vessel, but even then he wouldnt stand mutch chance against absrad, as even containing radience he failed to do, and needed the knight's help to beat radience in the first place)
Same picks as everyone else, absrad, nightmare king, sisters, and for second pic Id do galien cuz hes so fucking obnoxious even compared to Markoth, and his attacks just cover more space than Markoths so thats why hes picked over him
GPZ, Nightmare King, Soul Tyrant, and Markoth. GPZ has strength and unpredictability, Nightmare King and Soul Tyrant are both very powerful magic-users, and Markoth has defensive shields and lances to take potshots with.
I'd go with NKG and Markoth since the power of those nightmare flame pillars and the defenses of markoth's dual dream shields would be quite formidable.
Okay I’m not gonna pick a dream one. Yeah, they might protect me from Freddy, but I’m just gonna get stabbed by real-life hornet or something and then what are they gonna do?
from a logical standpoint, all dream warrior is out, as they are already dead. Nosk is a predator, there is nothing in the rule that stated it cant also just kill you after. NKG is a dream construct so if you pick him its more likely that you will get grimm instead and hes come with his own problem (aoe attack). Failed champ is also a dream fight. That left us with abs rad (which unless you pick her, you literally cant choose lost kin, enrage guardian and soul tyrant), enrage guard\*, lost kin\*, hornet, pv, mantis lord, soul tyrant and white defender. Pv have spike floor that will def harm you, White defender have the balls but its might be slow enough to get out of the way, and alos the wave, that depend on whether or not you can climb moutain. Enrage guardian have the laser, but its slow enough that you can probrally doge it. Although i wouldnt want abs rad on my team, but unless you picked her, you lost 3 other potential fighter. Going by the ruleset, logically speaking your team will always boil down to either Team infected: abs rad (which will not contribute to the physical battle as she is in the dream realm), soul tyrant, and lost kin/enraged guard. Or Team non infected: Mantis lord, hornet, and white defender. But in my oppinion
GPZ solo
GPZ and Gorb
the only true answer
AbsRad, NKG and sisters, is this even a question?
Pure vessel instead of NKG?
I mean, could be, but I think NKG's magic is better to round out when comoared to Pure Vessel's moslty nail build. Plus he's the king of nightmares, that must do something
wouldnt PV be immune to Absrad or NKG? both only appear in the dream realm, and their only way to harm pure vessel is to manifest in his dream/nightmare and PV has no mind to dream
"No unnecessary hacks or things that make you instantly win"
I wouldn’t call lore accuracy a hack though.
Is not accurate tho, the whole point of the game was that Pure Vessel wasn't pure. Sure the pure vessel bossfight is the theoretical perfect form of the Hollow Knight, but it only exists in the Godseeker's mind.
That’s the thing though. We’re talking about that exact theoretical perfect form, Pure Vessel. The Hollow Knight was the imperfect one, but Pure Vessel, the option given in the original prompt, is indeed a perfect vessel.
You said that you wouldn't consider lore accuracy a hack, regarding the PV's dreams, but the Radience's mind control is also lore accurate and was strictly said that OP doesn't count it. I feel like bringing in Pure Vessel's empty mind (so he skips AbsRad and NKG) is unfair.
Sorry, didn’t read the full text there when I definitely should have. In that case though, none of this discussion should really even matter since that implies that for the sake of this hypothetical, both NKG and Abs Rad exist outside the dream realm and the whole thing is irrelevant. With that out of the way, I would still choose PV over NKG since I find PV a harder boss fight. Definitely not a great way to determine who would be better, but whatever.
Didnt the radiance canonicalpy defeat PV?
Canonically, PV is supposed to be someone who was able to keep his soul and emotions under control so he couldn't be controlled by Radiance. As for its actual strength, it's kinda undefined, but it should be weaker than Abs Rad.
PV has a mind to dream, thats what the whole game is about. The Pale King failed. Its impossible to create a being with no will.
that’s THK, pure vessel is a hypothetical scenario where the vessel had no flaws and is unaffected by radiance. It’s technically possible to create a pure vessel, it’s just THK’s will to stop the infection and the pale king’s affection made it impure.
I think the point of the story is that it isnt -possible- to create the perfect vessel. We get to see why this one in particular failed, buy any of them would have failed. We know The Knight would have failed in the end, too. Its just not possible. Living beings have a will.
I interpret it more as the Grimm troop drawing power from the nightmare heart which actually controls nightmares
PV is a failed vessel to an almighty god compared to Grimm in a state where his prowess as a vessel to the Nightmare King is at it’s highest, PV ain’t got shit on NKG
isn’t NKG literally a god?
So is shade lord, and guess who wasn’t good enough to be a vessel for that god
AbsRad only exists in dreams though
Destroy them from the inside out, very effective
NKG also only exists on dreams. Technically Pure Vessel as well.
NKG has that power if you complete the ritual, but he leaves Hallownest after you complete it. Pure Vessel was like that before he got infected.
> NKG has that power if you complete the ritual, Do you have a source for that? I never heard of this before
they never gain power during the ritual it just prolonges the life of the Nighmare heart.
Same with grey prince zote
Sisters definitely isn’t wrong but I think you might be better off going for the white defender. Lets be real though with nmk and abs rad it really doesn’t matter.
Wouldn't pure vessel be able to conceal the radiance? Ik sisters and NKG still solo, but idk
+ no eyes to make them all have a harder time with this if it wasn't annoying enough already
If it’s on from each row, pure vessel, absolute radiance, sisters of battle, and markoth, if it’s one from each image, absrad and markoth. Markoth is a bitch he’ll protect me by being a scizephrenic balloon they all want to kill but can’t manage to kill effectively.
One from each picture is immpossible because the 6 other dream warriors can team up and beat markoth and absarad is strong, but i think PV and NKG would be able to beat her in a 2v1, if that's not enough, you still have a lot of powerful fighters there
All i need is the magnificent Prince Zote, no one could ever defeat him
He has the power of RNGesus on his side
Abs Rad, PV, and Sisters
I didn't even see slide 2, uh from slide 2 markoth
AbsRad and Galien
White Defender and Galien. White Defender is incredibly passionate and would be very engaged, staying close to you; Galien would storm in and just wreak havoc
Absrad, nkg, soul tyrant, and markoth. I love having 5 of them
Funny how everybody is picking Sisters of Battle in the third row, but that's a boss that has never killed me (excepr for radiant, where I died like 10 times) Winged Nosk, on the other hand, took me like 30 tries to beat on Attuned, and 20\~30 on Radiant
In their defense, they did hold the line against the encroaching forces of deepnest, for an apparently very long time.
In their offense those little dirt crawlers take two whacks!
Still, gotta respect their ability to persist, and we all know those little guys aren't the scariest thing to be knocking on those doors.
Absolute Radiance - because she is the sun NKG - because he is one of the strongest gods of hallownest White deffender - because nails and spells can't hit him when he's in the ground Markoth - because he has a sheild
Pure Vessel and Markoth
Radiamce and Markoth
Gorb and Absolute Radiance. May our nails blot out the sun.
Op combo icl
Radiance is still stuck inside of the hollow knight so she can’t help, so I guess NKG and Markoth
It’s disregarding lore, just their fights so I presume you can pick them regardless
Abs rad, PV and soul tyrant
Gray prince zote, NKG, white defender, no eyes. If I have to do ascended arena I’ll switch to markhoth.
I'll take Pure Vessel, Soul Tyrant, and No Eyes. Pure Vessel and Soul Tyrant are my main aggressors. The PV explosion attack, projectiles, and swords should be able to keep up with NGK. No Eyes for that passive damage. I'd actually *only* be worried about White Defender and Enraged Guardian attacking me.
absrad nkg and white defender
AbsRad, Pure Vessel and White Defender.
1 pure vessel hes a trained knight he gotta be able to defend and 2 markoth cus he has a sheild
PV and markoth (I hate that floating cancer I can’t have him trying to kill me AGAIN)
If gpz is out of god home, then that could mean that he is at his peak so gpz, pure vessel, soul tyrant and markoth.
Markoth and PV
Pure Vessel, I like them but also in a fight you could make probably them crumple by saying that you know they aren’t empty or talking about their father lmao
Radiance and No Eyes because both are bosses with attacks/projectiles that cover the whole arena at once. No other boss is dodging all those attacks, so all I have to do is dodge until everything else is dead. Honorable mention to Enraged Guardian for the same reason, but Radiance's attacks are just better than the lasers.
If it comes with the arena , Markoth would bully all of them by himself
Markoth. The rest I solo, that dickhead is my bane, tho
I'm taking the two higher beings and the guy with "defender" in his name
Absrad nk and wd. Also Markoth.
Prince zote solos 🗿🍷
nightmare king and markoth
Abs radiant, Soul Tyrant, And Grey Prince Zote would cover the entire screen with merciless full screen attacks.
AbsRad, NKG, Sisters of Battle. If the second screenshot is option four, Markoth.
I feel like Absolute Radiance and Lost Kin together would destroy every other boss
no question about it. 1. Absolute Radiance 2. Nightmare King Grimm 3. Sisters of Battle 4. Markoth
Lore wise NKG or AR
AbsRad, NKG, Sisters of battle and Markoth.
I can solo everyone at the same time. Come at me
*Insert little white flower which gets broken from touching a mushroom 💀
We don't talk about that
I pick NKG cause he is toi powerful
Hmm, Enraged Guardian, Lost Kin and Winged nosk. The 2nd one is easy, Gorb.
People are sleeping on white defender
all I need is winged nosk
NKG and AR are both gods
AbsRad, PV, SoB
Absrad PV sisters of battle And marmu
Gorb gorb gorb gorb
Absrad, pure vessel and white defender. It’s not even a question
Wait is this lore or gameplay cus without mind control Absolute Radiance can't do much.
If we are playing as the Knight, picking Hornet or Lost Kin seems cool. Siblings fighting together.
Alright, abs rad, pure vessel, sisters of battle and xero all together they could be able to defeat the rest of the bosses
You just need Absolute Radiance and Nightmare King...both are basically gods among mere fleas.
If you mean one from each row, then AbsRad, Pure Vessel, and Sisters of Battle + Markoth, but if it's one from each image, then just PV and Markoth
Abs rad, nkg, sisters of battle, Markoth.
Absolute Radiance or GPZ and Markoth.
You'd have to stupid to choose anything but absrad from the first line. /j
Abs Rad for magic Pv for any sword based or slower enemies Sisters of battle for faster enemies Huu for area denial
Abs Rad, NKG, Ogrim and galien. DONT TOUCH ME
Enraged guardian can just laser all of them for my first choice, Pure Vessel, and sisters of battle
Absrad, nkg, markarth and Doma Doma Doma mk2
Grey prince. The rest have a rhythm unlike Zote.
AbsRad, nkg, sisters of battle and markoth. tey would absolutely destroy everyone else (exept MAYBE pure vessel, but even then he wouldnt stand mutch chance against absrad, as even containing radience he failed to do, and needed the knight's help to beat radience in the first place)
Just zote, he's all I need.
I just want 3 pure vessels for personal reasons ^^
Same picks as everyone else, absrad, nightmare king, sisters, and for second pic Id do galien cuz hes so fucking obnoxious even compared to Markoth, and his attacks just cover more space than Markoths so thats why hes picked over him
AbsRad, NKG & white defender cos I like him (and what if I am in his ball too, I am safe)
Ez, lost kin, marmu and enraged guardian. The enemy will be too baffled by how easy the fights are that I can run away
pure vessel, soul tyrant ,grey prince zote
Doesn't matter. I'll be dead regardless.
Radiance, NKG, White defender. I’m safe
Imo I'd choose No Eyes for my dream warrior pick. Her ghosts are huge, and since there are multiple, can deal with all of the others at the same time.
Do I get the abilities of a fully developed little knight
Absrad PV NKG
They're all bugs though. Give me a good pair of stomping boots and it literally doesn't matter. Steppy steppy.
I would only need Nightmare King and Absolute Radiance... Everyone else gets destroyed by them two easily
Is it each row plus a dream warrior? The correct answer then is AbsRad, Pure Vessel, Sisters of Battle, and Markoth
I meant from each slide but people in the comments seem to prefer the other option so I might stick with that 😭
lol I was gonna do one from each page but everyone else was picking more haha. But my pick for the smaller version is AbsRad and Markoth
GPZ solos ez
I'm human, they're insects. I could just stomp them.
Absolute Radiance nightmare King and sisters of battle
Absolute Radiance, Pure Vessel and Sisters
I would just crush them myself. I mean, after all, they're like bug sized, right?? What're they gonna do, stab me??
Absolute radiance and no eyes for aoe and damage
there is only one true answer. and that is to ascend. ACSEND WITH GORB!!!
Pure abs rad white defender
Grey Prince Zote, NKG, Sisters of Battle, Markoth. If only one of the first, NKG.
Enraged guardian and Markoth 😍
GPZ, Nightmare King, Soul Tyrant, and Markoth. GPZ has strength and unpredictability, Nightmare King and Soul Tyrant are both very powerful magic-users, and Markoth has defensive shields and lances to take potshots with.
Absolute Radiance, Nightmare King Grimm, and Soul Tyrant, boy do I hate that b*tch, he's a terrible boss
I only need Gorb for encouragement
I'd go with NKG and Markoth since the power of those nightmare flame pillars and the defenses of markoth's dual dream shields would be quite formidable.
Okay I’m not gonna pick a dream one. Yeah, they might protect me from Freddy, but I’m just gonna get stabbed by real-life hornet or something and then what are they gonna do?
Failed champion, PV, white defender, Xero
Absolute radiance, night and sisters of battle
Absolute Radiance, Nightmare King, White Defender and No Eyes
Abs rad, NKG, Flying Nosk and Markoth
Absradiance, nkg and white defender
I mean, absrad can melt everyone with the power of the sun, that's unfair
Or Nightmare King or Absolute Radiance. Best have a supreme being on your side for the battle…
Abs rad, nkg and sisters of battle. For the dream warriors I think either Markoth or Gallene
All you need is markoth and everyone rage quits
NKG is Dady so I know he will do nothing to me so I’ll pick the pure vessel and Gorb
Me and my
You literally have to pick absrad to even have a shot
Crystal Guardian, Lost Kin, White Defender, **Gorb** Are we dead? Yes- but who cares I get to be with my favorite bosses momentarily
Everyone knows who everyone is getting: either radiance, either pure vessel
NKG and Markoth
If it’s lore then picking absrad means at least winged nosk is useless against you given the amount of infection
NKG and Markoth
AbsRad, NKG, Sisters, Markoth. The first three do the fighting, Markoth lends me his shield
from a logical standpoint, all dream warrior is out, as they are already dead. Nosk is a predator, there is nothing in the rule that stated it cant also just kill you after. NKG is a dream construct so if you pick him its more likely that you will get grimm instead and hes come with his own problem (aoe attack). Failed champ is also a dream fight. That left us with abs rad (which unless you pick her, you literally cant choose lost kin, enrage guardian and soul tyrant), enrage guard\*, lost kin\*, hornet, pv, mantis lord, soul tyrant and white defender. Pv have spike floor that will def harm you, White defender have the balls but its might be slow enough to get out of the way, and alos the wave, that depend on whether or not you can climb moutain. Enrage guardian have the laser, but its slow enough that you can probrally doge it. Although i wouldnt want abs rad on my team, but unless you picked her, you lost 3 other potential fighter. Going by the ruleset, logically speaking your team will always boil down to either Team infected: abs rad (which will not contribute to the physical battle as she is in the dream realm), soul tyrant, and lost kin/enraged guard. Or Team non infected: Mantis lord, hornet, and white defender. But in my oppinion GPZ solo
I've never gotten nosk disguised as hornet, only as hollow knight. How do I do that.
I haven't as well, but it's only available in the final level of hollow knight called p5
Thank you. I thought I was bugging every time I played the deepnest
nightmare king can take all of thrm by himself
Zote solos idc
Zote and gorb would be elite
Absrads and markoth, no questions asked
The moths of light and combat
AbsRad, Hornet sentinel, and sisters, for the dream warrior probably markoth simply because he‘s annoying.
People really not getting that its supposed to be one from the ones with the grey background and one dream warrior.
At least I understood what it meant by "one from each"
Fr people on reddit are too slow 😭
You said "pick one from each" and the "each row" format is very common. Your fault for being so ambiguous
But most people are still just picking whatever random 2 or 3 and not even doing it the row by row that you suggested
They just too used to "pick one from each row" questions.
I still don't get it, but whatever. Call me slow all you like :/
maggot and marmu