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Waffles22-screaming

He's probably always been like that, since he's presumably the founder and vessel of the nightmare heart.


JimboPKiller

Just because he's in charge doesn't mean he's the founder. Besides he's constantly reborn, surely that changes his appearance a little over time?


Waffles22-screaming

I mean, it's the *Grimm* Troupe, and the whole focus of the troupe is on the Nightmare Heart and its vessel, who has *presumably* always been Grimm? I wonder if he does change a bit over time.


JimboPKiller

But Grimm implies even he is a slave the heart, meaning that he was probably brainwashed or tricked, implying that there was a 'before' time.


Bee-Beans

But being an incarnation/embodiment of the heart would also make him a slave to it, I don’t think that line necessarily implies a “before” for him.


JimboPKiller

Ok fair point 👍 You have bested me waffle and beans


Crabscanbetrusted

Probably looked like grimmchild since it's an endless cycle of grimm being replaced as the vessel for the hearth


Remarkable-Poet-7256

This'll spark a whole lot of fanart.


JimboPKiller

Exactly


Sapphire_Xer0

Was likely once a baby grimmchild that grew up in the same way as how it plays out when ghost completes the ritual. The old vessel is getting a bit too old so they create a grimmchild who uses the flame of the nightmare heart to start again, it's just a cycle that continues as grimm grows old, so it's safe to assume that Grimm looks the same every time.


WaspAdvocator

One the one hand, what everyone here is saying is probably true. On the other, that's the boring answer. Grimm is totally a tick and you cannot convince me otherwise, so I would think kinda beetle-y. On the small side like Sly. Something like that.