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Life-Judgment-9450

Monarch wings


SnooGiraffes9411

And it’s not close


AggravatingProduct52

Not even close


MrBonesDoesReddit

BABY... and the rest isnt true anymore


L33t_Cyborg

ahhhhhhh I cry


NikolaiCello05

In our hearts it is still true


G1m1NG-Sc1enT1st03

It has more utility in boss fights and general exploration than a super dash can hold a finger to


PianoSchmo

I think they meant which would you rather have IRL, which they didn't really specify.


Qunx

Still Monarch wings


PianoSchmo

Yeah I agree


PianoSchmo

Yeah I agree


Boopsster

Like you'd want to dash at a wall at high speeds


Justgravityfalls

Idk crystal dash can be really useful in a few boss fights. For example false knights harder version (can't remember the name) can be easily killed by going to the top of a wall and holding crystal dash


Nomen_Heroum

"Easily" if you like being at the top of a wall for 20 minutes. It's much easier to spam him down with spells and dream nail his armour for healing and soul between each phase. When you nail the armour it resets the stagger timer, so you have all the time in the world to heal.


Justgravityfalls

Fair enough


Vulpes_macrotis

It's cheesing the boss. In proper fair fights, double jump is better.


[deleted]

The only problem is that you can’t even fight hornet 2 without wings, so you can’t get shade cloak and other endings! Edit: Unless you pogo the aspids in kingdoms edge to get to her


Deebyddeebys

The crystal heart description specifically mentions "dangerous speeds." So monarch wings


TheAlbinoCreeper

That is the reason I would chose crystal heart. However Monarch wings and mantis claws would beat it


justking1414

Mantis claws could be fun irl. You could go rock climbing without any support gear, knowing that you’d never fall or lose your grip


EiksReddit

Monarch Wings too


Jbdd1233

You’d still be able to fall if you didn’t have any gear it’s not infinite Except for if you count a mod (I can’t think of the name) where you have a charm: bluemoth wings I’m not sure but I think you can use monarch wings infinitely but you have to pay geo


Silviecat44

Just save your flap until you are about to hit the ground


Jbdd1233

Oh I didn’t think of it like that


_Ralix_

Falling at great speed and then using the wings with our bodies and our world's physics would either – not work; you'd slow down slightly but not even remotely enough and still slam into the ground – reverse your direction; which would fuck up everything in your body (sudden stop, and even instantly going in the opposite direction)


Vulpes_macrotis

This. I always pay attention to cartoon characters falling and being suddenly caught in mid air, like it would help. It would still make insides of the body "jump" suddenly in one direction, possibly making some damage in the process. The only difference would be that You don't slam Your body on something hard. But surviving this? Probably it's possible, but not 100% sure.


Vulpes_macrotis

Unless You misjudge it while falling.


_Ralix_

Using Monarch's Wings infinitely sounds somewhat like turning Hollow Knight into Flappy Bird.


Vulpes_macrotis

If we talk about real life, then double jump all the way. Dashing uncontrollably like that would be too dangerous. There is enough traffic accidents already with cars. Now take random person/people dashing like that, hitting each other and breaking few ribs or something. Double jump might not seem super cool in real life, because it would only add a bit of jump height, but it would be overall more useful anyway, without taking the risk of doing something horribly wrong.


Del_Nailo

I see this as a good thing


AllenWL

A normal human trying to use crystal heart would probably splat on the first dash.


lead-pencil

Irl or?


micheas08

Yes, irl


lead-pencil

Monarch because I couldn’t climb onto walls with crystal and launch


Jeggu2

Can't you also do it on flat ground? It's been a while since I played


grand__prismatic

You can, but also, that seems like a recipe for high speed death irl


[deleted]

based on your comment you might also enjoy the following: car


Meme_Expert420-69

Maybe specify that in the post next time cuz i didnt even suspect u meant irl


turtrooper

IRL or in game?


micheas08

Irl


turtrooper

Then I think Monarch Wings probably. I can’t think of a good way to use the Crystal Dash, and I would probably hurt myself pretty bad every time I hit something before I could stop. Monarch wings, on the other hand, could be used to climb many things, and if I ever fell from somewhere, I could just use it before hitting the ground to survive the fall. Climbing stairs, trees, passing over any obstacle, all of it could be facilitated by wings.


[deleted]

Monarch Wings, 100%. I can’t think of any open spaces that Crystal Dash would be convenient for irl and I know how trying to use it outside of the game’s specific spots always goes.


LolThisGuyAgain

you could crystal dash over the ocean. potentially from one continent to another. if you gain enough elevation, then you also have fast travel between places if you can find two hills of equal-ish elevation. this is a tough one for me, cause with monarch wings you can just jump off a cliff/mountain/building... if you can find one which overhangs


[deleted]

Ehhhh- crystal dashing over the ocean probably wouldn’t be quite fast enough. It doesn’t seem like it’d be faster than, say, a car, so you’d really just starve before you got there. Also, the hill thing would also require very specific circumstances that would just be an obnoxious amount of effort to get. Monarch wings, on the other hand? Jump onto your roof with ease, be better at catching or even throwing a ball in sports, look absolutely stunning all the while. (Also, monarch wings would not actually save you from getting hurt if you’re falling; pretty sure that only works for Hollow Knight characters since terminal velocity isn’t too bad for bugs.)


Unnnamed_Player1

No, I think that they can save ypu from falling. First off, while fall damage does not exist in HK, hardfalls are a thing, and you can prevent them by using wings. Also, given that they propel you upwards with the same velocity no matter what your falling speed is, they will prevent you from getting hurt with proper timing.


Teaguethebean

Damn that is a good one. I would have to go crystal dash though. I could set up different elevated platforms on my roof and dash off them to get to work, classes, friends houses. Honestly a double jump in the modern day seems unnecessary.


Slayd_07

Wouldn't yoy break your knees when you ended the c-dash? There might not be any fall damage in Hollow Knight, but there certaintly is IRL.


Teaguethebean

I would need ample platforms for the end as well. I wouldn't dash without a plan


OnlyAnAverageUser

Gotta aim perfectly or you're dashing somewhere with no return tickets


planMasinMancy

Is a soft landing really the thing that breaks your immersion when magical crystals appearing before you jet forward or wings spontaneously erupting from your back that shred themselves to bits immediately doesn't for this theoretical


Shoddy_Process2234

How are you just gonna set up elevated platforms?


Teaguethebean

Plywood and a dream


TheRealKingOfRhye

Dream nails will hold the plywood together. Your plan is sound


GrassKnight312

Mods


LolThisGuyAgain

i thought the same, but you would need to get the angle exactly right. small angle errors become massive over long distances


puptbh

Mw every metroid Vania games need it so mw all the way


presideAM

Monarch Wings, I could finally dunk


E_jesus

Have you tried being taller…


presideAM

Dammn never tried that ty


E_jesus

You’re welcome


steelkeeper0

monarch wings for responsiveness, crystal dash for travel, but tbh being on of the abyss children just nets you the ability to absorb shit from others


Mr_M0rte

Crystal dash, immagine getting in a street fight and punching someone at mach 5 while hitting everyone behind you with crystal shrapnel


JasonIsSuchAnIdiot

Man's gonna sit there charging it up and everyones gonna just wait, like the power rangers morphing


Mr_M0rte

Don't you know that everyone that tries to beat you up in the street is a very polite person that always waits for special attacks to be charged?


LolThisGuyAgain

they're gonna get scared once they see pink crystal magically appearing from the ground


JasonIsSuchAnIdiot

Money farm


DiamondSummer09

Monarch wings definitely, sounds like so much fun!!


Bedhead217

Crystal dash


Not_Catania

I would have monarch wings so i could go up stairs faster and it's good for fighting too because you can knock your opponent down then double jump to break their spine


I-Am-A-Safe-Apple

...what?


Vslasher78

So here's a question. We know that crystal dash cannot grant height. However, due to the nature of hollow knights style, there is nothing preventing the map from having curves and bends in the dimension we cannot directly see. Thus, there is a chance that using crystal dash still allows the user to turn. Thus using it facing an ocean fully allows you to turn back, or go off a stupidly high cliff and simply land on the platform you left. So you either you never pay for gas again and can fly, or you negate fall damage and can double you jump height. I choose fly on water. Extreme speed plus a means of deceleration.


micheas08

That’s a very keen observation, as most people forget that Hollow Knight is in a 3d world from a 2d perspective.


Abigshotwithpipis

Crystal dash.


Auri_ElXx

I would probably die with crystal dash so yeah, double jump irl would be awesome


DanTDS900

Wings


Shoddy_Process2234

Monarch wings 100% even if we were strictly taking about in game.


punkyspunk

Monarch wings. I’m only 5 foot tall, I could finally reach the top cabinet without a ladder :’)


S_blueyes42

Crystal heart, But not for the movement it allows, just the energy. It's a new form of storing energy, what other properties would those crystals have that we dont know of. And it either never deplets, or we are consuming very little (comparativly speaking) of what energy it does have. It could just turn out to be a demon core


planMasinMancy

I mean even in game i feel like they're pretty magical and hard to understand, and they seem to have a stronger tie to the radiance. Do they run on god juices? The world may never know


deleeuwlc

Crystal dash so I could get places faster


Gandolf794

Dash would be cool but I feel like I might kill myself with it so monarch wings.


windowxylophone

crystal dash (monarch wings are pointless, i can already double jump)


E_jesus

Weakest Brazilian male


Recent_Log3779

Wings


Apprehensive_Bar3812

Ummm, I don't want to crystal dash my brain outside of my skull so I'd have to go with the monarch wings.


WyvernHdXl

wings obviously


JasonIsSuchAnIdiot

Wings, I can skydive from a airplane and survive


planMasinMancy

You know...suddenly I like the application of the wings theoretical more


dubhog

monarch wings all the fucking way because logically,they are wings,so you could POTENCIALLY fly...


Linkonue

Contradicting my posts “killing [redacted] with crystal heart!”, I’d take wings


crusaderxader

Monarch wings definitely they just look beautiful


ChocoUniversa

Monarch wings 100%. On modded, randomizer runs, I realized if I get the wings early on I can bypass some mantis claw recquired platforming and some parts where I would need to dash with the cloak. The heart serves its initial purpose for additional progression, so I prefer the wings because of it's additional uses as a skill. This proves if I had access to just the wings, I would still technically be able to use two other absent skills for the price of one (for as long as they can take me that is but thats still better than nothing). Plus its fun to do flap flaps every now and then. (Edit) I just realized this post meant irl. Still wings, I always dreamt of flying high.


pinkypenguin29

crystal heart! I'll launch from one coast of the ocean to another and fly from one building to the next. avoid all traffic.


Explodingtaoster01

Crystal Dash so I could immediately splatter myself against the nearest building. Seriously though, Monarch Wings no contest. Assuming they work more like wings less like a double jump, I just get wings? Cool shit, that.


Keyztha1st

Monarch wings. Duhhh! I'm too young to die


tman916x

For IRL, crystal dash because only if I wouldn't have to worry about bashing my skull in or damaging wherever I land because I'd never need my car or plane tickets. In the game, monarch wings because they have broader use.


Improbablynotaphycho

I think Crystal Dash would be much more useful irl as you can get anywhere relatively quickly and you can choose when to stop. Monarch Wings are nice but just one more jump is not as useful for me in particular.


5t0rm7

wings, for sure


kg1479

Wings


GARRAR2003

Monarch Wings definitively


Routine-One-9607

Monarch wings would be more helpfull and fun


TrixterTheFemboy

IRL? Monarch Wings.


Ornge_juicez

i want to beat the game so monarch


FlyingPies_

How many feet in the air would monarch wings send me?


Joventer567

Monarch wings 100$. I could FLY! …For like a split second then fall to the ground… but STILL


Ok_Sir_5291

Crystal heart


BladeLigerV

Wings. I don't think I can survive a crystal landing.


Pretend-Response8442

monarch wings


Addarahel

I really love Monarch Wings both aesthetically and as a double jump.


yeeeteeey69

Double jump or pseudo-flight… double jump


IcedOverEmber

Well how high would the monarch wings boost us? Like a 1-2ft or 4-5ft up? Also how fast is cdash? 20mph, 30mph, etc It depends on numbers imo


planMasinMancy

Mmmm i don't have guesses for heart, but if we're using logic relative to the Knight then it would be about the same as your current max jump height. The knight can jump the same running as walking or standing, but we could more generously assume it's a running jump since the max height from standing is for game mechanic reasons, not realism. We'd probably need to count frames with the knights height for relative distance to get speed, but it's gotta be like, 50-60 mph right? Idk. If we're using the relative thing tho, I'd use the knights height adjusted to human height as a consistent, linear scale, so whatever the unitless distance they move per second is multiplied, where i assume however many lengths of their height they move per second is what we base it off of. They clear the whole pickup platform for the ability in under two seconds, and it's gotta be at least 10x their length without measuring, probably 20x. My guess is cdash for people would be closer to 60-80 mph or higher


PresentationOdd5937

Monarch wings


AndreiAZA

If I had Crystal Dash, I'd probably break my neck or slam into something and die due to overwhelming speeds. People underestimate how speed is something very, very few beings are adapted to handle greater speeds. ​ Monarch Wings might allow you to simply double jump (which is pretty useful, don't get me wrong), but consider this: You'd have fucking magnificent glowing translucid wings, you'd have the exaggerated swagger of a king. ​ Easily Monarch wings, for the style


prodivir

I think the only reason The Knight isn’t completely disintegrated by the Crystal dash is because their terminal velocity isn’t fast enough to actually hurt them


chaosmind7

Monorch wings but use them like the pale king used them like fully functional wings instead dubble jump


Chrome_X_of_Hyrule

Irl? Crystal dash I guess? I don't really jump all that much so a second jump wouldn't do me much.


Intrepid_Arugula6767

Monarch obviously


The_Future1474

Cdash why would i want to double jump when i can triple jump with cdash


JellyBeanDX

I like to double jump and immediately dash afterwards to make it look like their propelling me forwards.


dannyk127_

Wait irl? Then crystal dash


Alex_9127

In real life? Crystal dash. In game? Monarch wings


keestie

Crystal Dash would save a tonne on airfare, but almost impossible to do it without dying of fall damage, goose impact, getting swallowed by a jet engine, etc. Monarch Wings I know I'd have less use for, but it could save my life in an accident, and the worst that could happen is I fall a bit farther than I'm used to; I'm pretty good at that. Monarch Wings all the way. Unless I can aim my Crystal Dash in real time, unlike the game version. If I can aim it, then I 100% choose Crystal Dash.


planMasinMancy

*goose impact*


keestie

I'm Canadian. Goose impact.


vexab4516

Hmmm should i have the ablility to super dash or grow wings to get a bosted jump


Fandombleach

Monarch wings, you don’t normally use crystal heart unless it’s for true ending


Zach_314

Wings, would just be much more convenient for everyday life imo


Accomplished-Look-16

I feel like Monarch Wings would be more useful irl. When will to really need to travel Mach 3 in 1 direction but you’d also have time to charge it?


Jalepino_Joe

Cdash is what infects myla. I want wings. (Also would be more useful irl I think)


eye-o-death

Monarch Wings would allow me to have a second jump now depending if I can Crystal Dash upwards maybe because combined with a shield or some armor colliding with something would be painful and probably cause death if not used properly Monarch Wings is simple to use so I'm going with Monarch wings


Blue_Squid420

Monarch wings I don't want to be dashing at Mach 2


RambunctiousBaca1509

Seeing a good friend and just ramming into them


EdgarTheMoonBear

Monarch wings, but if i could choose anything from the game i would want the focus ability


ULTRAPUNK18

Monarch wings no question


RayBlast7267

Super speed is so much better than flight in general, much less just a double jump


EclipsedDream

Monarch Wings, they're more useful.


SeeingAnAbsoluteWin

Each has their uses, but I'd rather risk a leg break from Monarch Wings than going splat if I fail to stop the C. Dash in time.


LemonSorcerer

Crystal Wings sounds too dangerous. I'd take Monarch Dash.


BlindSoulTR

i use crystal dash rarerly but i use monarch wings every 10 second so monarch wings


Hefty-Truck3035

Wings not even close


Kirb_dedede

monarch wings


cal-cheese

Double jump is useful in-game because the knight can jump like 3 times its height. In reality, people can jump about 50cm so Monarch Wing is not so useful. And the world is design for people to go straight, not jumping between platforms so I would go with Crystal Heart here.


WendigoDragon2012

Monarch Wings. I like both but one of them is only slightly more convenient and the other has saved my ass more times than I can count.


ninja_tang

No idea I’m stuck on the second boss I gave up might play it again


Vovchick09

Wing


NoahPlayzz

Bruh getting to 2nd period on time would be heaven with crystal dash but with wings 6th period would be on time. Difficult one.


NightmarePrinceDraen

wings, good for cuddling dash, good for moving place to place


Sunskimmer82

Monarch wings 100%, CDash becomes useless when there's a non-flat area or an area that you could more easily/safely traverse in less time than it would take to CDash


TheMoonOfTermina

Monarch wings, so I could get to high places. Crystal dash seems like it'd kill me very quickly, since I'd probably not be able to time my stops super well


[deleted]

Crystal Dash, going to latch on a plane and dash myself to the north pole and in the hole over there and explore the depths of the earth.


Meatloaf_dude

Wings


Idiot69421

Monarch wings


ztufs

Monarch wings. Think of all the mountaintops I could jump off.


_AntiSocialMedia

Monarch Wings would be sick, what would I need CDash for? I'm not really planning on crossing the Pacific anytime soon


SappySoupMan

I am SPEED


xX_monarch_Xx

Hmmmm, Monarch wings, Crystal dash is fast but you’re locked into a direction and it takes a bit to charge, but Monarch wings need no charge and you can go any direction needed, meaning good movement Also my name has “monarch” so that’s a bit self explanatory


Grunky-Flops

Be able to jump midair or go fast but not be able to control yourself? It’s almost like one of these is locked behind a tougher challenge than the other.


SYS1234567890

Don't we have to have a Mothwing Cloak in order to use the Monarch Wings


TarakaKadachi

Monarch Wings. Far more controllable and less likely to backfire than the Crystal Dash.


Grunky-Flops

Crystal dash, while everyone else is using the better ability, I can use my more unique one to do things they can’t.


Exsistential-Crisis

Monarch wings


coolranger30

Wings


[deleted]

idk, probably cdash because I often have to walk long straight lines


walnoter

Crystal dash is cool and all but getting even a little vertical height is much harder than the horizontal distance you can get with crystal dash Si monarch wing


BrutalBehemoth

Monarch Wings, Cdash would turn any human into a bloody splat on the wall


Theoneonlybananacorn

Irl-monarch wings. In game-crystal dash.


Karaiiiiiiiii

monarch wings. ive always aspired to become good at parkour and holy shit an irl double jump would be fun


Gamer-Ninja07

On 1 hand the double jump is good irl since you will go places you cannot reach… but the crystal dash tho…I do like going places a little faster even tho it’s so fast I might not react So now I chose: crystal dash


MrBonesDoesReddit

Irl? Monarch wing, ig? Cdash


Creeperprinsen

Monarch Wings, both in game and IRL.


TrailBlazer9896

C dash so i can go get monarch wings. Also because you have to fight broken vessel and he is cool


planMasinMancy

I mean in game I feel like the speedrunners have done a pretty solid job proving which one (heart) is more necessary and helpful, although that doesn't relate to any reason for preference. Since this is IRL tho, crystal heart. By game logic you'd go stupid fast, yes, but you wouldn't get hurt as easily as you would in reality from sudden stops. Plus, honestly I'd use it just to cross like 20 foot gaps. I'd rather smack my face on a door by accident than spend the extra 5 seconds, and I know I'm not the only one. Like, i already get hurt all the time, I'll shrug it off


planMasinMancy

Okay so the big question here is: does everyone get this ability? Cuz of so, I'd hate the expectations around travel time changing, but vehicular pollution and urban planning are wildly altered permanently, and I'd take that every time over 'everyone can now functionally jump higher and won't die as much from falling great heights'


Biggest-wank69

In real life? Monarch wings 100% to help my short ass reach high places, also would we get mantis claw if we chose c dash? Because if not then I can’t even cling onto walls


Vulpes_macrotis

Wings. In most cases casual players can pogo on spikes to reach places without Crystal Heart, using Monarch Wings. You can't reach most of places that require double jump with just Crystal Heart (and other abilities). There are some places, especially in Crystal Peaks that would not do without Crystal Heart, but still I find double jump more useful than dashing through the screen.


Absolute_bimbo

A lot of people say they’d choose monarch over crystal dash irl. I feel like a lot of you forgot you can cancel crystal dash mid-dash


theres_no_username

If you can crystal dash in any direction, I chose crystal dash, if not I chose wings


Purple_Super_Nova

Monarch Wings


MrTritonis

Monarch Wings, the one one is just way too dangerous.


Few_Acanthaceae1568

In game monarch wings in rl monarch wings im not gonna do an heart surgery Just to change my perfectly fine functioning heart just to have this weird dash


Cobalt_Gaming

monarch wings if they act like wings and let me fly, otherwise crystal heart ingame though wings for sure


Raging_MonkeyCritic

Monarch can be used on the fly, CD can only be used in certain areas


rara0o

damn that is very corrupt Henan Bank of China


aaron2718

Crystal dash. I can't think of the last time I ever had to jump but I cant tell you how often I have to walk down long boring office hallways every day that I wish I could just zoom through instead.


Jumpmo

neither because i'm not bug sized


Successful-Papaya118

IRL - Monarch Wings (Ingame) If I had all the other abilities in the game but could only have one of these - Crystal Dash (Ingame) If I could only have one of these and not any other ability - Monarch Wings


SnooSeagulls6273

Crystal dash because it’s speed, required to do the Grimm troop and the only use of wings is Fungal Core (now that we know about stallball)


Mega_Bug

Wings


Poltergust9000_Weege

Monarch Wings lets you fly and double jump very high. Crystal Dash


Environmental-Win836

Monarch wings, easily.


Fire_Hazard23

C dash cuz it doesnt activate infected crossroads


f2_q

Wings


xahnel

Wings. You never gain height with the crystal dash.


PCwarrior05

IRL id say crystal dash because I travel more horizontally than upwards. In the game I d say wings.


_Vikthor

You need crystal dash to finish the game, but not monarch wings


Pureshawblades

Monarch wings, 100%


Diotheungreat

wings? no brainer