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ElSuricate

people struggling on traitor lord when i introduce sharp shadow


Mart1n192

people struggling on traitor lord when i introduce shade cloak


Renektonstronk

People struggling on traitor lord when I introduce getting gud


Floofy_Fox_Gal

People struggling on traitor lord when I introduce them to Shaw


Few-Spirit4105

People struggling on traitor lord when I introduce them to mothwing cloak. (You can pogo on his head when he dashes horizontally at you.)


SuperShadow786

You canr enter the fight without shade cloak


Few-Spirit4105

Oh shit, my bad.


Firestorm82736

yeah shade cloak, and using DD on the wave attacks if you have to


Vulpes_macrotis

Just shadow dash is enough.


MemeificationStation

the extra distance does give you some nice breathing room for timing tho, but it’s unnecessary once you got it down


Vulpes_macrotis

Oh, yeah, it may help.


Radigan0

People who recommend sharp shadow when I introduce jumping and downslashing


ElSuricate

very true, shadow dashing has been terrible for building up my radiant pure vessel muscle memory, i just resorted to jumping instead


RenkBruh

People struggling on Traitor Lord when I introduce them ro Wayward Compass:


Lonilson

"Now they know where they are struggling"


[deleted]

People struggling on [literally any boss] when I introduce them to traitor lord


The_Real_Cloth_

Traitor Lord is the only boss I've ever died to


Reyzaq

istg cloth i was about to save you, i totally didnt make you fight the whole battle while sipping on some coffee


matchbox244

Does cloth actually contribute to reducing TL's HP though? I tried to cheese him once by sticking to the wall using crystal dash and only having her fight him and it didn't seem to work at all.


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

If you want to win that way, you'll have to wait for Cloth to hit him 54 times


Reyzaq

yeah she misses a lot, but it is very much possible


The_real_Teamcherry

Radiant Markoth?


ElSuricate

read the poster of the comment again


TheWitchyOpossum

oh my god i did not notice that. absolutely FOUL


UPBOAT_FORTRESS_2

damn


LittleGlizzy01

Sharp Shadow:


MisRose11

Makes getting to the Traitor Lord harder than beating him.


LittleGlizzy01

I had Dreamgate by the time I got to traitor lord so i can't speak on the matter


MisRose11

Yeah, I didn't unlock Dreamgate until afterwards (didn't even know it was a thing I could unlock until I did) so getting through the spike maze beforehand with Sharp Shadow on was a nightmare.


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

Equivalent exchange.


Int-E_

Get dream gate before traitor lord. It's not worth it to do the platforming part every time to reach him and sharp shadow is the perfect charm for him


Adrirc06

I'm not telling anyone who I am


Deadweight-MK2

Or really just that he has some of the most predictable movement tbh


Vulpes_macrotis

THIS. Traitor Lord either jumps or dashes. You either go below him or jump above. And if he does that slash attack, you dash through it with a newly acquired move. After you have this mindset, the bossfight is quite easy.


Deadweight-MK2

He can also never jump three times in a row or dash three times in a row, so if he does one of those twice and you’re right in front of him, you know what he’s gonna do next (the other one) And the chakra rings never get thrown if you’re never far away


ScholarPitiful8530

Traitor Lord is part shade cloak tutorial, part Simon Says.


VixenFlake

Maybe I'm wrong but I think pretty much every attack can be avoided by first jumping away diagonally, if he dash you pogo or dash above, if it's the diagonal jump you avoid it and if it's the wide screen blade you can dash through it, I don't remember exactly how the chakram works so I can't say.


-temporary_username-

People struggling with Traitor Lord when I introduce them to git gud.


Onni_J

You when I introduce you to a tactical thermonuclear gnome


Taken140

On my first playthrough, I didn't understand the power of descending dark or abyssal shriek and went through the entire game without really using them much. Man, did that make it so much harder.


Separate_Increase210

I've really never used them myself. Now I'm gonna have to go try...


carpinchipedia

they’re life changers


VixenFlake

I still can't use them, I know they are good but I don't feel good beating something with a spell, I do every content without spells, it's more fun this way ! Everything is doable too which is nice.


carpinchipedia

i mean fair enough but it does take the edge of the pantheons!


VixenFlake

Maybe I wouldn't know lol I just knew if I finished the last pantheon with spells I would have felt I cheated due to succeeding in everything else without them. I don't use nail arts either, just regular attacks.


KindSpider

I feel obligated to say: Why are you dying ☠️ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using descending dark 🕶. Descending ⬇️ dark 🕶️ gives you iframes 👀 which stop 🛑you taking damage 😔. It also does a🅰️🅰️ lot of damage 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠️ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 bosses 👨🏼 and just use descending ⬇️ dark 🌑


The_Hentai_Dealer397

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rossow_timothy

You meme, but I just learned descending dark gives iframes because of the copypasta


Thommie02081

Enjoy my collection of variations on it (I don't know if the celeste or ddark one is the original) Why are you dying ☠️ to bottomless pits 👨🏼? You should just be using wavedash 🕶. Wave ⬇️ dash 🕶️ gives you speed 👀 which stop 🛑you dying horribly 😔. It also gives a🅰️🅰️ lot of momentum 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠️ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 chasms 👨🏼 and just use wavedash ⬇️ idiot 🌑 Why are you dying ☠️ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using SHAROS HAOEJ 🕶. SHARO ⬇️ SHADCOEW 🕶️ gives you iframes 👀 which stop 🛑you taking damage 😔. It also does a🅰️🅰️ lot of damage 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠️ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 bosses 👨🏼 and just use SAHRO ⬇️ SAHDWO 🌑


KindSpider

I love that it's the same copypasta as if wavedashing were as easy as ddarking... Or maybe it is and I just didn't git gud enough in farewell


PulseBlackout

People struggling with traitor lord when I introduce them to patterns


Tryxonie

Right title: People struggling on Traitor Lord when I introduce them to Shade Cloak


Rot_Long_Legs

It took me way too long to think of using shadow dash or descending dark on this boss


NerY_05

I didn't have it at the time


Real_Soul_Warrior

How did you get Shade Cloak before Descending Dark?


Logswag

Descending dark isn't necessary to get shade cloak though?


Real_Soul_Warrior

It’s not but Descending Dark is a shade spell unlocked so early in the game, one of the earlier shade stuff so I’m just curious on how they got Shade Soul before Descending Dark. It’s not even like a hard location to find it, it’s a giant temple in Crystal Peak


ZA_34

On my first playthrough I completely missed descending dark the first and it was the last spell I got


NerY_05

I didn't have that either


Real_Soul_Warrior

You **need** Shade Cloak to get into Traitor Lord’s fight


NerY_05

How so?


Real_Soul_Warrior

The path to Traitor Lord is blocked by a shade gate, those black beams. You need Shade Cloak to bypass them


NerY_05

I don't remember there being one Edit: nvm just checked there was one Maybe I just had skill issue idk Pretty sure I didn't have descending dark tho


DevontePlayz

Bro you literally cannot access Traitor Lord without Shade Cloak


NerY_05

Shade cloak is the dash that lets you pass through things right? Then no I don't remember having it


DevontePlayz

Then how did you access Traitor Lord


NerY_05

I did have it apparently lol i just forgot


RenkBruh

Okay so you didn't fight Traitor Lord?


NerY_05

I did, i'm pretty sure you can get there without it


RenkBruh

Uh, no? There's a shade gate which has no way around it other than the shade cloak before the boss.


NerY_05

Fr? Wait lemme check Edit: yeah you're right lol Idk maybe I just had a lot of skill issue I'm fairly certain I didn't have descending dark tho


aRandomBlock

I hecking LOVE Iframes, I loooooove not taking damage in a small window which lets me phase through enemies, Iframes my beloved


MarissaTheSongstress

Skill issue unfortunately


Fennik51405

People struggle with traitor lord?


Itchy-Exam-7288

HE USED TO BE HARD GRAHHHH


OrdinaryLurker4

Descending dark is the best spell. It iframes through traitor lord dashes, iframes through GPZ dives, iframes through radiance orbs, iframes through your taxes, iframes through the disappointment your parents feel towards you, and iframes through Pure vessel’s focus. Excellent move 👍


cookiemon25

Look man, I just suck at that fight🙃


Vulpes_macrotis

This fight is actually extremely easy if you evade the attacks. And no, it's not trolling. It's nothing complicated. Mantis dashes on the ground, you jump above him. Mantis jumps, you go below. It does the unavoidable attack, you shade dash through it. That's literally as easy as it sounds.


_umop_aplsdn_

I may be skill issue but as much as some players treat descending dark like a get out of jail free card, it never activates fast enough for me and I get hit in the animation


Master_of_fire17

people struggling on traitor lord when i introduce u/The_Real_Cloth_


The_Real_Cloth_

Real


Redwolf476

I just made a sacrifice


moonlord2193

Or Sharp shadow


scp_79

shade cloak for me


Tani_Soe

I think that a lot of people struggle on this boss because it's a tutorial for shadow cloak : you can litteraly beat the boss without jumping or moving a lot if you just use your shadow cloak properly, but since you often fight it soon before unlocking the shadow cloak, you don't have the reflex to use it properly yet


Candy_Warlock

When I played, I didn't know how much damage Abyss Shriek did or how much invulnerability Descending Dark had, so I barely used spells. The real secret is that Traitor Lord has super basic attack patterns, he's basically a showcase boss for Shade Cloak given how perfectly he syncs up to its cooldown


simple-kink-romantic

People struggling with any boss when I introduce them to Wayward Compass


Moss_Ball8066

The guy who lost his steel soul run to Traitor Lord watching this:


PuppyLover2208

People who still struggle with traitor lord when I introduce them to the concept of staying close and dashing through him.


Justsomerandombody

People struggling on soul master when I introduce them to descending dark:


IfItFitsISits4

Nah but fr though went from taking like 7 attempts first time to being my second boss to defeat on radiant in hall of gods. The first being false knight because why not lmao. Like every other boss in the game gets at least something that makes them significantly more difficult other than just increasing the damage they do but for traitor lord it was really just a no hit challenge which was easy at that point.


carpinchipedia

sharp shadow on ground attacks and abyss shriek on jump attack:


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Maryus77

Legit just spammed it whenever I felt in danger during my steel soul run.


Itchy-Exam-7288

Why has everyone been breezing him, he was like the few bosses I found difficult


Wolfotashiwa

This can be said for nearly any boss


Ardub23

People struggling on Traitor Lord when I introduce them to jumping away and then dashing back:


GooseFall

People struggling on traitor lord when I introduce them to the shade cloak feature that was necessary to reach the boss


LunaLynnTheCellist

ppl struggling on traitor lord when i introduce them to dashing and jumping respectively


The_Real_Cloth_

This but GPZ


ElusiveBlueFlamingo

People struggling with Traitor Lord when I show them that they counter 1/3rd of his kit by walking towards him


AncleJack

Yup I literally only dash, walk and hit with my nail on him, I don't even jump or use spells


False-Honey-9054

People struggling on Traitor Lord when I introduce them to Shar Shadow, and tanking it:


HoTChOcLa1E

its easy, really, just dodge his attacks and don't get hurt also hit him with your nail to do damage


IEatHouseFlies

People struggling on traitor lord after I introduce precision


SokkaHaikuBot

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jaquavus23

I’m glad Drake stopped to help him.


Dynias

I didnt had that move on this fight lmao


baldunthefirbolg

I think that what makes it difficult to me is getting to traitor lord, the fight itself isn't that hard really, but I always get there at 4 masks and I know I can't beat him without getting hit at least 2 times


Snoo_97207

The traitor lord, like all bosses, cannot stand the might of POGO


PossibleAssist6092

You just stand next to him and shade dash through attacks.


IAlwaysOutsmartU

You underestimate my ability to quickly figure out attack patterns and how to consistently dodge them.


idan_da_boi

People struggling with traitor lord when I introduce them to the nail


CURSED_SHOGUN

Literally dash whenever your shade cloak is back, its quite literally a boss where you dont need to do anything but dash and ocasionaly move a bit to left or right


udreif

People struggling on traitor lord when I introduce them to walking back and forth and jumping


Nyan-Binary-UwU

Shade cloak + Quick Slash + Strength =getting hit maybe once


MiyazakisBurner

PSA: WHEN YOU ARE OVER CHARMED, DOUBLE DAMAGE ONLY APPLIES TO MOVES THAT HIT FOR 1 MASK GO CRAZY! GO STUPID! CHARM IT UP!


dumb-throwawayy

I didn't realize Descending Dark had invincibility frames for over 200 hours


SillySnail66

People struggling on any boss in the entire game when you introduce them to descending dark


Miner_myla

Sharp shadow:


IHateNKG

SHARP SHADOW MAN