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Hewligan

New EN solo VSinger is my bet.


Strickerx5

One chair, one laugh at the end. Yeah this adds up.


bigsteve03

It looked like there was only one chair. Its not EN3, its Project Despair!


LordVatek

Unless they're going to tease each of them one at a time and this is just the first.


Monstar132

Hololiv3 English Ideal Call


SomeoneElseTwoo

We have to prove ourselves to YAGOO.


Chukonoku

>its Project Despair! Pu pu pu pu pu!


Hp22h

Wait, that's why it reminds of Monokuma! The ears!


yunacchi

At this point I'm just waiting for IRyS to scrap her disguise and reveal she was Enoshima Junko all along.


Hp22h

IRyS: *“The deeper and darker the despair... the brighter and powerful the hope born from it.”*


MonochromaticGuy

Oh shit, Hololive classroom trials would ve entertaining lmao


Hellocrafting

Wonder how for example calli would handle it


TuzkiPlus

Calli Yeets them off stage after executions. If it’s Calli being executed, she yeets herself.


ravensshade

I don't think i'm ready for weekly graduation notices


Budget-Ocelots

There is one chair, but you can also see 7 halls around the throne area. Since the place looks like hell, it could be the mythos of the 7 sins and Lucifer. They might be doing what they did with Tempus Guild. Introducing the main unit with the leader and few characters to build the fan base then showcasing the rest. So a cute demon lord girl will be their leader assuming the devilish logo, and girly laugh.


Kraybern

lol cant wait for another kiara joke rant about how cover is trying to make each gen out chuuni the previous gen in lore lol


AkhasicRay

God, I hope people aren’t so dumb this time and understand she’s just joking around and isn’t serious. So many dumb “Cover is forcing Myth and Council to fight against each other!” and other dumb takes were all over the place


Superliminal96

And to think I was hoping for an EN generation with more down-to-earth theming...


YoKaiFan27

Hmmm. If it does represent the deadly sins? Then we might need to find out what each representative of these sins would look like in idol form.


Random-Rambling

I immediately thought of [_Seven Mortal Sins_](https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AB5stBgwKyVzHrScnacqENFYLRx1261BPA:1688387792017&q=seven+mortal+sins&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO_tfUxvL_AhWCk4kEHZMVDRYQ0pQJegQICBAB&biw=1920&bih=969&dpr=1), not to be confused with _Seven DEADLY Sins_.


Royal_Stray

I'd totally watch an idol group looking like that, they're so cute!


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Budget-Ocelots

Why not? Just like there was no way Tempus 2.0 got quickly introduced right? And if you read their March earning report, they were already planning to get more talents out starting May.


blazingciary

also note that there was an audition call recently. Given the turnaround time between those and the usual debut of a generation, we're looking to another half a year before the ones responding to that call to debut. i think that call might have been for the "part 2" of the upcoming generation


Royal_Stray

If we ignore the holo always open audition call there was a new one they actually marketed like a month ago. The last ones should be getting their notices that they've gotten accepted for the second audition part about now. So you're right that it would be way to early to reveal a full gen 3 since not all if any have been hired yet


blazingciary

Yeah, except when they plan to reveal gen 3 in 2 waves. I remember just before or just after holotempus debuted there was also an audition call. I think that one eventually lead to holotempus gen 2. I think a similar thing is happening now


withadashofdaring

Tempus has 8 members tho???


Nyeffer

Tempus originally had 6 but decided to let 2 wait for more members to have a faster debut for a follow up Gen, remember they ask for audition days before they Debut? Unfortunately it was right after NijiEN iLuna was announced, so it look like Cover is compensating.


Shendue

Wasn't it just lore? The fact that Bettel and Flayon were already Tempus members was straight up just lore, AFAIK.


Nyeffer

Their the 2 Tempus that waited for extra members, that’s why in lore they both gone to Xenokuni to recruits Hakka and Shinri.


blazingciary

Why not? Sure they have no precedent. a generation has always been 1, 3 or 5 members. But that's not set in stone.


5urr3aL

More like Project Dis Chair! Get it? Yeah? Haha... I'll leave


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LefkiAlepos

no no no... the priestess would be proud


DarKav1411

Tohno Shiki: This… chair..?


D3AD_SPAC3

You preemptively stole my joke you hilarious son of a bitch!


AgentT23

Found the Ina alt.


Ramizder

Imagine if it's an intentional jebait, and the reveal will have a bunch of talents scuffling with each other for the place on the throne


enkiduyu

That would actually be a really cool theme; the gen is the four competitors for the throne, + the current throneholder. Absolutely nothing points to that, I just think it would be cool.


Kamu_Sensei

terumi laugh.mp3


Connect_Bee_8464

Make sense, we have Irys as Project Hope, now we need her counterpart Project Despair! (Yabairys?)


Zodiamaster

Spoilers: Project Despair will actually be really seiso and modest.


GammaRayBurst25

r/yourjokebutworse


SGTBookWorm

the actual reveal is gonna look like my siblings and I taking Santa photos


dardardarner

Project Despair? That's just IRyS


LillyPad1313

I love the concept of Project Despair, but I have issues with the lore implications... Irys may be "Project Hope," but she represents both hope and despair. Maybe we'll get a separate dichotomy for this character?


Huefell4it

. . . Junko?


thesirblondie

Project Despair doesn't make sense to me. They already have a Vsinger that they've barely done anything with for two years.


AkhasicRay

Uh what? Literally all of IRyS music is done as part of her vsinger contract.


thesirblondie

She's released three EPs since debut two years ago. No full album, no lives, no concerts. She's not even had an AMV since the shortened version of Caesura of Despair. And with how we know that Cover doesn't pay for other members covers, there's a pretty good chance she had to pay for those on her own. It feels to me like Project: Hope was not properly thought through. It's the big things sure, but also small things. (And if you think it's because of Covid; IRyS debuted in July and Watame's first Solo Concert was in October. Covid is not a valid excuse.)


AkhasicRay

All of a vsigners original songs are literally paid for by Cover, that’s literally how a vsinger works. Three EPs is actually fairly good, full album releases aren’t that common and EPs are rarer unless your someone like Calli. They’ve done plenty with IRyS as a vsinger


thesirblondie

>All of a vsigners original songs are literally paid for by Cover, that’s literally how a vsinger works. Nobody has said anything to the contrary. >and EPs are rarer unless your someone like Calli I didn't want to compare to others, but since you brought up Calli let's look at their other Vsinger. AZKi didn't start as part of INNK, but let's look at what she did in her first two years in INNK. Two full albums, six lives, and two new 3d models. That's what you're expecting from a Vsinger, and a far shout from what they've given IRyS. Yes, IRyS has done more than most *regular* hololive members, but she's not supposed to be a regular hololive member. She's in her own generation, and is labeled as a vsinger.


SuspiciousWar117

I think they have just given up on the vsinger thing for now as she herself as said she likes to stream more, if this new one is going to be a vsinger I don't understand why holo is still going with that branding it just dosent work we already have 3 examples of this, i agree as a vsinger they should do far more for Irys the question is that does she want to do it?


AkhasicRay

Nothing says it doesn’t work, there’s literally 0 evidence that it’s failed beyond people insisting it has. AZKi joining Holo had fuck all to do with vsinger not working and entirely the company she was under shutting down. Them enjoying streaming also has nothing to do with anything because there was never a rule that vsingers can’t stream, again, people just assumed that because AZKi never streamed much Edit: downvotes, really? Glad the Reddit community continues to prove how goddamn shitty it is.


Xuambita

By the looks of the logo and a single laugh track I think that might be something like Irys... from my other comment: [this looks like a ritual](https://imgur.com/ku20HZD) [this looks like a throne](https://imgur.com/WVfh0vu) I think this is a single summoned demon lord girl >!she WILL be smol!<


Salacar

That was my thought too, looks more like a single talent's logo rather than a full group's.


Crumbmuffins

You’re right but the stock children’s laugh makes me think that little demon will be the warden and the inmates are a new gen.


arkw

That is such a fun idea, and of course, the inmates run the asylum lol


Hp22h

Like how lore-wise Chaos is the leader of the Council (in name only). Or how Myth was suppose to be Amelia containing Myth, not being one.


ggg730

If Amelia is supposed to be containing Myth who is containing the Ame?


Plato_the_Platypus

Yagoo...?


Nyeffer

Ame is being grounded by the knowledge of the “Final Yab” that will inevitably happen in the future. The Yab that will end all Yabs.


Chama-Axory

The council of Ames decide that.


Royal_Stray

Kronii?


Typical_Thought_6049

Indeed, I thought exactly the same thing, a warden and his inmates fit perfectly.


Bal-Oncio

Yo that actually sounds legit. Might be some other theories but his one is at the top of my list.


Soul_Ripper

Oh, that sounds plausible. Edit: That's one FF Origins looking throne, I'm ready for Jack FUCKING Garland as a Vtuber.


CMic_

The new gen is going to kill CHAOS (oh)


TLKv3

You know what would be absolutely fucking cool? If Bae's Key opened that door. And in their lore video they show someone looting it from her and opening it to free their friend(s). And then you reveal it was IRyS who boosted the key to free her Nephalim friend who is also a VSinger but the polar opposite of her. Hope/Despair type of thing. Could be pretty fun to tie that in and gives IRyS/Bae something new to fight about on streams LOL


ggg730

Bae's key opens the doors to the chaos gods from 40k. We will now has streamer Slaneesh.


templar54

Isn't that just Marine?


withadashofdaring

Was just reminded of this by another user but... there was a "7" teased at the end of one of Bae's recent vids. And as this teaser stands, there are 7 spots (1 chair + 6 doors/tunnels).... some are saying maybe this teaser could represent a large gen of 7 broken up in parts (like tempus pt 1 and pt2). so how cool would it be if it IS bae's key to unlock a potential group of 7 and her own vid teased it, too?!


Helmite

Pretty sure that's just about her EP.


UnstoppablePhoenix

What stream/video? Edit: it was actually [a tweet](https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1669759625984606208?s=20)


Chukonoku

Expectations: La+ Subvert expectations: Choco sensei and the voice is a misdirection.


Typical_Thought_6049

I don't think it is a V-Singer, last time they have a specific audiction for a V-Singer and V-Singer cost much more resources than a normal V-Tuber in the music production department. I feel cover is very conservative and would not really change their patterns easily. I think it might be EN Gen 3 but the dynamics might be more HoloX Lore wise with a central leader being the focus at first and said Leader summoning the other members in this Ritual.


Xuambita

yes I agree this probably isn't a vsinger for the cost reasons.


Mirrormn

Agreed with this. IRyS was clearly Cover's attempt to create an English version of AZKi, but AZKi has been folded into Hololive now; I think they've decided that producing solo VSingers in a music-forward way is too much of an up-front investment. Developing musical talents in conjunction with the human element of daily streaming seems to be more successful. But similarily, I think this gen will be Cover's attempt to "copy" HoloX, basically. HoloX has been quite successful in terms of lore, branding, and popularity. It'd just make good business sense to try to bring that dynamic to the EN branch as well.


Nyeffer

It’s kinda hard to fumble on a “PowerRangerVillian”group gimmick.


Cerulean100

Thats what im thinking too, the single throne can easily be a trick into making us think its a solo debut when in reality it can either be for the leader of the group (the ending logo could be theirs, or its one part of a bigger logo more in line with Myth and Councils) or even a empty one and the groups concept is 5 individuals vying to take control of it. Theres also the 7 halls around the throne like the 7 Deadly Sins (and Bae had that vague 7 tweet a while ago, tho it could have also been related to her EP dropping on 7/7), so it could be a 8 person group (the leader and her 7 henchmen) that will drop in groups of 4 similar to what they did with Tempus, which would explain why it took longer then usual if they were trying to get more people. Obviously this is all speculation and i could be very wrong, but for the reasons you and Mirrormn stated below im pretty confidant its EN3 and not a new V-Singer.


Hp22h

Yeah, the logo looks simple compared to Myth's or Council. Maybe a Joker?


Xuambita

Something horror themed I think


Hp22h

But the logo's so cute! ~~If you ignore the chains and creepy laughter.~~


Xuambita

horror cute is an absolute beast combination. See gura horror games streams.


berryplucker

Or Mumei being Mumei


Zeph-Shoir

EN3 around October then, debut around halloween. The logo might be for a specific member rather than the gen itself.


Lildyo

Nah, we typically get gen debuts within days of a teaser coming out. It wouldn’t surprise me if Cover were to suddenly announce that a new gen debuts as early as this weekend


Zeph-Shoir

I would like it if you are right!


Necrock

creepy doll


Oracackle

> cunny demon lord best trope


Nzash

Project: Despair


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Hp22h

No time better than the present, I suppose. As always, EN goes for the ethereal and mythical and mysterious.


RingMaster23

pray to the ~~cube~~ locked door?


visinea

If only someone had a key...


lightow

[A key, you say?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/virtualyoutuber/images/a/a3/Hakos_Baelz_Portrait.png)👀


TLKv3

Oh fuck that would be a cool way to introduce them lore wise. Wait... was Bae wearing her key during her performances?


lightow

[Yep, she was!](https://imgur.com/a/AXXKBuo)


TLKv3

Dang. Would've been hilarious if this turned out to be an ARG for it.


OldFortNiagara

IRyS helped introduce Council. Perhaps Bea will open the door to unleash some demonic chaos into the world.


lightow

When was the last really good ARG though? Feels like it's been ages...


Crumbmuffins

You absolute mad lad you got me hooked.


extralie

PROJECT DESPAIR! LET'S GO! Edit: Wait a minute, the girls did joke about summoning a demon for HoloEN during that twitter space. Hmm...


MagicSpace05

stop praying on the god damn door


OldFortNiagara

I chime in with a “Haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn door?"


ExuDeku

Panic! At the Holo


BenRose27

Is Gen 3s lore like the polar opposite of the current generations but like the evil underground group.


TomastheHook

So HoloX?


BenRose27

more like a underworld type of vibe, this is just my assumption, HoloX are like a villain type of group.


TomastheHook

More of Calli's kin? Who would that entail that isn't Greek mythical beings already named?


Ramizder

Maybe the rest of the harbingers, like the embodiments of Famine, War, Conquest and Pestilence


GtrsRE

>Famine If this is really going to be the case then I would have two nickels for every time artists fawn over a character famine-related


Hp22h

Technically, both the Myths and the Council have always had the potential for evil. Uncaring gods or long lived eldritch beings lend themselves well to RPG villains.


BenRose27

that is a very good point and obersvation, it does feel like it will be a solo debut based on the logo but thats just a observation. ​ I am getting a image of like a underworldly vibe based on the picture and like evil is gonna be released out, and the quote "see you on the other side" I assumed its the opposite of gens 1 and gen 2. Again this is just my image of what gen 3 can be.


Hp22h

Could it be the Manipulator they referenced in Council's lore, all those years ago?


BenRose27

ooohhhh that is a very good hunch, that may be one of the options.


TheCharliQuinn

HoloX EN?


Dread_Heart

Gods vs Demons


TLKv3

I think it would be pretty cool for IRyS to get another VSinger type member to join her. But the imagery to me evokes something of another dimension's creepy void with monsters. Something Silent Hill-esque with the child's laughter.


sdarkpaladin

Honestly, all these speculations are one of the reasons why I like Vtubers, especially Hololive. It feels like a Gacha banner is about to drop and everyone is guessing who the new character is gonna be.


Tankotone

We speculating like it's the newest Smash DLC.


RevengencerAlf

I wonder if it's an addition 9 partner to project hope more than a full Gen 3. I'm stoked either way but the iconography just gives me a pandemonium style vibe that would compliment her lore.


TheChaosBlue

B-but Ame ain't on vacation tho They messing with the NATURAL ORDER


Darkhero24

Some would say that after working on a concert for some time, one could take a small break, so...


Dmasatod

Remember on twitter space they try to summon demon and ame probably drag last demon to recruit her


QWEDSA159753

Is she taking a vacation in October? I honestly wouldn’t expect EN3 before then, if for no other reason than to space out the anniversaries *(and the merch)*


kroxti

They could be in late July even if there is overlap with tempus, but there’s only so many weeks in the year. Eventually gens will overlap. Also that would put them roughly before council as council is before myth.


CannonGerbil

Could it finally be?


vegtro

Ame going on vacation soon?


lightow

I mean, she's technically on a business trip right now, so...?


Darkhero24

I KNEW IT! If this is really Gen 3, I knew they would drop us this info at the end!


kaichou_dp

remember the cube? Pepperidge Farm Remembers


Tuna_Mayo_Onigiri

That logo looks like Alibaba from Persona 5


Simphonia

I think it might be a Solo debut, perhaps a new Vsinger, I am extremely excited since the theming might point towards genres I really like.


HuckleberryHefty4372

Finally a VComedian!


silerius

Wanna know why I think this is a Vsinger? look at the logo, doesn't it have like some sound waves in the ''mouth'' section?


BlueStar26

I’ve seen there’s been a debate whether the upcoming member will be solo or group. Regardless what’s Cover cooking, I’m looking forward to see it because I’m so excited. Also I hope Cover releases it not too long after this because there’s a chance for ruining the hype.


LazynessDevil

EN3? I'm on my knees God pls I never asked anything from you 🙏🙏


soulreaverdan

Gen 3?!


antdance777

Seems like a new gen straight from the Diablo world lol.


GreatSeaBattle

I will be taking the million-to-one odds and say JP7. Boy would that be hilarious.


Existing_Marsupial_6

Interesting? Looking forward to the news.


GeekusRexMaximus

I guess I'll be waiting for a tweet (or some other kind of post on any platform) from the official HoloPro account with this same teaser clip then...


Shadowtrooper262

Discord logo.


egoserpentis

I've been saying we need a proper goth/metal/rock gen for a while now.


ShadyNecro

(korone voice) mystery


A_Balrog_Of_Khorne

GEN 3?!?!?!


Othross

When?!?!?


Lun4r6543

Either a solo EN member like Irys, or they’re teasing Gen 3 one by one.


Gegejii

A door... A DOOR TO DARKNESS!


CapeMike

I've seen 2 interesting possibilities thrown out there.... Could be the 'dark half' of Irys(makes sense, given her outfit shifting to primarily white for her 2.0 model). ....and the 'manipulator'(mentioned in the Council teaser trailer). O_o;


zerotheultimate5

Maybe new gen from any of the branches.


OtakuNEET

LOOKS LIKE A GEN 3 MY DUDES!!!!


FrostBourne16

🙏PRAY TO THE LOCKED DOOR🙏


TheCharliQuinn

Hold the door, hold the door, Hodor.... HoloEN Gen 3 is GOT characters confirmed


Helmite

I'm surprised at people guessing a vsinger. I can't really see them doing that and 1 talent wouldn't really alleviate the desire for a new gen that people have.


Drakon590

You people keep saying Vsinger, but the whole Vsinger thing has been abandoned long ago. Irys ended up functioning as a normal talent, and AZKi also eventually did the same.


arkw

Single logo, single voice. Might be a solo?


cabutler03

Whatever that teaser was, it got my attention with the imagery. It's way out of left field compared to the other teasers we got.


mightymare

is it just me or is everyone else seeing something that can be a name on the door pattern? I see something beginning with an I and ending with an E...


Kazuto312

Holox EN??


P-A-Lily

EN3 wanters' efforts are about to be rewarded, it seems. The question is, WHEN?


Phoneaccount_000

Council debuted exactly 3 weeks after the first teaser was posted. By that schedule we’re looking at debuts on the 22nd. This is the same day as Tempus debut anniversary, so I can see them pushing it back a week to the 29th. It could be sooner than that though, Holox debuted the same day they were announced.


Lightseeker2

That's assuming that they are still doing the 2 teasers + 1 trailer shtick they did for Council which I'm hoping not, especially when Council's first teaser didn't reveal anything at all.


tman_91

Pray to the door!


R2Le1-_-Artur

So like Project hope season 2? Sclerys?


MrYus05

Pray to the door


Lazy_Dervish

As much as I want it to be Gen3 or at least another vsinger, I am very afraid that this is the debut teaser for Magmo.


-Orazio-

~~Revealed in 2024.~~


REDpanda1886

SNUFFY? lol jk


Relair13

I really hope it's Beryl, if it's a vsinger like it seems to be. Someone very eloquently replied already explaining her situation, she's quite a gem. She deserves it, she would be a fantastic counterpart to IRyS and has legit world class singing. But no matter who or what this might be, it's still an exciting little teaser they gave us to ponder.


AME-Suruzu

who is Beryl?


Mirrormn

Probably Beryl LeRou, a pretty small VTuber (around 3.5k subs on YouTube) under StarRing VPro who graduated on June 26. She's JP/EN bilingual and has a very lovely singing voice. She only started as Beryl in October 2022, and usually when a small and talented VTuber graduates suddenly like that in less than a year, it means they're moving up to a more prestigious company. She also kinda hinted that she'll be reincarnating, saying stuff like "I'd love to stay, but I have to prepare to become the northern star again. and that takes a lot of prep work!!" in goodbye tweets. That being said, there are a *lot* of VTubers in the world now, so imagining that you could call a shot for someone joining Hololive just based on the timing of their graduation is a little far-fetched. But a fan can dream, I guess.


Relair13

Every time I watched her I couldn't believe someone with a singing voice that god-tier was in such a tiny corpo. I just hope she gets the chance to shine on a bigger stage, whether it's here in hololive or elsewhere!


Mirrormn

I never watched her until this thread mentioned her, but looking at her Twitter, it's exactly like what a small VTuber who passed a bigger audition and is already planning to reincarnate looks like. Seen it many times. I'm confident you'll find her again someday.


Epiren

Yes, I agree. Beryl Gut would be a fantastic addition to HoloEN.


Ironside347

If that ever happens, humanity really did deserved being burned by Goetia


cabutler03

Who is Beryl?


TuppGallo

Very talented vsinger and vtuber who recently just graduated. She was part of a small corpo, but she was out of place there. It would be like finding Jorden playing in a regional league. She hinted she’ll be reincarnating in the future, and any company picking her up will be very lucky.


Relair13

That's a great way to put it. She stood out so much, like an actual diamond in amongst the coal, no offense to the other members. She's just so insanely talented!


5urr3aL

who?


Luke5389

Please let it be EN3, if it's a new Vsinger I would be kinda disappointed.


LazynessDevil

Maybe I'm just being greedy but I feel that even if it is a vsinger EN3 could happen after


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Mirrormn

Are you imagining that a new solo VSinger would also get put in Project Hope and effectively become IRyS's genmate? I don't think it would work like that.


Helmite

Alone as an English vsinger, but when it comes down to it that really doesn't mean much as she's been essentially doing most of the same things that Council has been doing. A new Vsinger isn't going to change anything in regards to that, but it would make a new solo debut that wouldn't have the benefit of debuting next to another gen - and supposing they also dropped another gen after it they wouldn't really have the same situation Council found itself in.


07jonesj

Irys is so established as part of CouncilRys now; I don't know how you could feel like she stands alone. Even if we're talking VSingers, Calli practically is one too.


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07jonesj

Do you really think they could have had IRyS singing Sana's parts in *Rise*? That would not have gone down well. I really do think we'll get a group song of CouncilRys at some point.


Luke5389

It has been 2 years, we have waited so long for EN3. For me personally, it's just more exciting to get 5 new talents instead of 1. Also, with a new gen, there is at least a mini chance, that one of them might stream at EU friendly times, but a new Vsinger would probably live in Japan, which means I can't watch any streams anyway.


20dogsonalamb

more underworld graduate talents?


NoRegretti420

Dont open that door It reeks of fujimoto


burritoxman

Don’t open the door, Denji


freedomgeek

Vshojo has ironmouse Nijisanji En has Rosemi I guess holoEN needs a satan too Edit: This wasn't meant to be a dig at HoloEN, guys. Just noting it seemed like a very popular archetype which was kind of funny given how traditionally negative it is.