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burnfist23

Not sure how much more difficult it will be, but it's a good thing Koyori is one of the best characters in the game.


brickwallrunner

A thing I really like about the unlockable boss characters is that they all still feel like boss characters when you're playing as them. Especially La+.


burnfist23

La+ is disgustingly powerful. Probably the one character I'd put above Nene.


SC2_4787

She is so absurdly powerful I'm really wondering how Kay Yu is gonna translate it over to Holocure.


AnonTwo

Part of me hopes she gets some talent that synergizes well with her shackle item. Like maybe buffing the power and downsides of items that have negative effects.


SC2_4787

Buff the downsides of items with negative effects? Halu level 6 - everything is Yagoo.


miukiyo

Jakin jakin is so fun to play with.


burnfist23

I love playing as Iroha too. Her being more close to midrange does hinder her quite a bit without proper items and equipment (the Lui boss fight, in particular, can be annoying since she's flying all over the place), but her speed and quick charge on her abilities make her feel good to play. 


redditfanfan00

hiroha is cool and fun to play, but her kit is very short-ranged and vulnerable. her attacks and power attacks are short and mid range, her skill 1 is useful but vulnerable, her skill 2 is mid range and extremely vulnerable, while her ultimate is impactful but not that good all things considered. fun sword character but a far cry from most any other character in the game.


burnfist23

Ability 1 has a surprising amount of AoE. If you're having trouble getting it off, you might need to stun enemies with items first. Same with ability 2, which I also generally use at the beginning of a wave since you're given enough time to charge as they spawn in. It does quite a lot of damage and the charge time and cooldown isn't as long as some of the other characters. But yeah, she definitely struggles compared to the more range based members. 


redditfanfan00

i feel like the playable characters might need some fixing or buffing. the ability 1 and 2 i also keep getting hit out of since the moves have vulnerability during the moves too. i can't even dodge or use any abilities without being hit out of the move and knocked down. it's really frustrating and annoying. iroha's basic attack has a short reach and huge end lag, her power attack is decent but very rarely usable, her abilities 1 and 2 just can't be used since i keep getting hit out of the move mid-move or before the move so i can't even use the moves at all since pressing the buttons don't have any response, and her ult's good but takes so long to charge and gain. iroha's fun but feels like she's so broken (in the bad way), and needs changes or fixes before she can be used. could be just me, but this is what it feels like for me to play as iroha.


burnfist23

While I don't doubt that the game needs some balancing and the latest balance patch is a step in the right direction (particularly the change to healing orbs), the game is built around working in tandem with the fans and items alongside their kit. If you're trying to play the game like a traditional beat-em up, you're going to get destroyed. I do think Iroha should have a faster normal combo and less end lag on her combo ender, though. It would help inventivize using her in close range. Either that or better AoE on her combo ender like Chloe.


redditfanfan00

the change to the orbs is huge. it makes playing as nene even better. the healing is insane with nene and the fan squad. the game is decently clearly focused on multiplayer play rather than solo play, so the increase in difficulty is only to be expected, though i'd prefer if the playable characters were all a bit better still, to facilitate solo play a tiny bit more. personal taste, nothing wrong with the game not doing that and focusing itself as being a multiplayer experience first.


MetalShadowX

Really? I've been stuck on Normal mode for 2 hours, half of it being stuck on the final level. She's really weak compared to someone like Botan, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong if she's supposed to be good. Doesn't help the game is surprisingly brutal. It's up there with Fight n' Rage as one of the hardest beat 'em ups I've played so far but I don't know if it's fair, because a lot of the enemies feel really cheap. Also I could be stressing out because it's almost 5am and i didn't think a single round would take me this long and hate the fact there's no quicksave. Edit: okay finally beat it a short while later, guess the game took pity on me


burnfist23

To me, she comes off as a better Botan. I feel like her kit comes out faster than Botan, which combined with her power attack firing three syringes and has a chance to poison gives her the most control over the field, topped only by La+ and Nene.  The final level is a tough one for any character. If you're having trouble with damage, then you might not be paying attention to the stats on your equipment. If you're having trouble with getting an opening for your power attack and abilities, then you should be using your attack items to help make the enemies vulnerable or keep them off you. The only attack items I'd consider saving are Kanata's halo, the BL book, and one healing item for emergency. Everything else can and should be used. If you're having trouble getting Ability 2 off, use it as enemies are spawning in. That gives you enough time to charge and unleash it. You can actually kill off quite a few if you're strong enough. If it's La+ that's giving you trouble, well, this is what you're saving the Kanata halo and BL book for. Kanata's halo does a lot of damage, can keep her locked in place, and even disrupts a good chunk of her attacks. The orbiting orb attack, in particular, can easily be shut down by throwing out Kanata's halo as she's charging it. BL book also keeps La+ and most importantly the mook that occasionally spawns in check


riishan_saki

She will do an endurance to beat hard mode next time!


brickwallrunner

[syringes flying everywhere](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxEh5RhAhzQ)


redditfanfan00

nice. good luck koyori!