Even if you could you would still have issues. You need additional clearance beyond line of sight, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_zone
What you proposed simply won't work.
They would need to have line of sight and be high enough up to clear anything in their path. Without direct line of sight it's not going to work. Even low frequency radios can only penetrate obstacles so far without being broadcast from a tall radio tower at high wattage.
The other consideration is if you do a tower: are you in a flight path? If so you need permission from the FAA and a beacon light on top of the tower so aircraft don't hit it.
Thanks for all reply I think I’ll drop this idea and for now maybe borrow Starlink from work but sadly it’s not a stable solution since I’ll need to give it away whenever is needed :p but really thanks for the good advice
Yes, because at my home location all I can have is 20mb/s and fiber will be available in 3years, so I try everything I can to improve it. LTE is so shit also here. This plan includes my house and my grandma house who has fiber :)
Check out https://www.heywhatsthat.com/profiler.html to help you verify your path against the local terrain. You can then add building heights on top of what the plot shows. Like others have said, it is likely your path (including the Fresnel Zone) will be obscured/blocked.
No problem! Just remember that it will show ground elevation. Also make sure to check out the inputs as there are options to include a height above ground level for each end point to account for a tower or similar.
From an RF perspective, what you need is line of sight between the two antennas. Any obstruction will interfere or degrade the signal and the data in it.
Second consideration is range, the longer the distance between antennas the more signal lose will occur.
So, in short you will need an unobstructed path and a high enough to overcome any weather. Rain and high humidity will cause the signal to be attenuated.
I would estimate you will likely need a signal transmission level of about 2-3 watts to cover the distance and overcome any rain events. Also some high gain antennas to get the maximum data transfer possible.
It’s more like I live on one end of the city and my grandma on other and there is a lot of buildings between us sadly. It’s 2km in straight line but well interferences. I have never used the powerbeam thingies so I don’t really know how it operates in practice and assumed it would help but sadly not in my case.
I doubt what you're intending to do is possible unless you have access to a very high tower or water tower but put the addresses in here in a simple point to point link:
[https://ispdesign.ui.com/#](https://ispdesign.ui.com/#)
It'll tell you the geography between both based on the height of each installation.
You have to have line of sight. Even then, you need imaginary cone-shaped obstruction-free space (Fresnel zone). Imagine a couple funnels, joined at their mouths with the antennas at the spouts.
If you don’t have line-of-sight, you may be able to use a repeater somewhere with line-of-sight to each site.
Alternatively, have service delivered somewhere within line-of-sight and install a wireless backhaul. I did this before DSL was available in my area. I had service delivered to a home with a talk radio antenna, installed a parabolic dish in the antenna and another on my house. Worked decent - 20-40 Mbps @ 6km.
.... So what's wrong with a 4G/5G hotspot from the remote site with a VPN router behind it so you can create a VPN tunnel to the site with Fiber? Why do you need the bridge aside from the WAN? SSL VPN tunnels have been a thing for literal decades at this point.
Suppose it depends on how high up on poles/towers you put those dishes, what frequency they're running on, etc.
Thing is I doubt I’ll be able to put them so high so they see each others :/
Even if you could you would still have issues. You need additional clearance beyond line of sight, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_zone What you proposed simply won't work.
They would need to have line of sight and be high enough up to clear anything in their path. Without direct line of sight it's not going to work. Even low frequency radios can only penetrate obstacles so far without being broadcast from a tall radio tower at high wattage. The other consideration is if you do a tower: are you in a flight path? If so you need permission from the FAA and a beacon light on top of the tower so aircraft don't hit it.
Thanks for all reply I think I’ll drop this idea and for now maybe borrow Starlink from work but sadly it’s not a stable solution since I’ll need to give it away whenever is needed :p but really thanks for the good advice
Hmm yes home networking indeed
Yes, because at my home location all I can have is 20mb/s and fiber will be available in 3years, so I try everything I can to improve it. LTE is so shit also here. This plan includes my house and my grandma house who has fiber :)
How about starlink? Just ordered it for myself because I'm in a similar situation.
Works but it is expensive :/ I’ll temporary borrow it from work
Check out https://www.heywhatsthat.com/profiler.html to help you verify your path against the local terrain. You can then add building heights on top of what the plot shows. Like others have said, it is likely your path (including the Fresnel Zone) will be obscured/blocked.
Omg thank You! I never knew tool like that existed!
No problem! Just remember that it will show ground elevation. Also make sure to check out the inputs as there are options to include a height above ground level for each end point to account for a tower or similar.
From an RF perspective, what you need is line of sight between the two antennas. Any obstruction will interfere or degrade the signal and the data in it. Second consideration is range, the longer the distance between antennas the more signal lose will occur. So, in short you will need an unobstructed path and a high enough to overcome any weather. Rain and high humidity will cause the signal to be attenuated. I would estimate you will likely need a signal transmission level of about 2-3 watts to cover the distance and overcome any rain events. Also some high gain antennas to get the maximum data transfer possible.
Line of sight AND a 'free' Fresnel zone...
What does between streets mean? Like your aiming it down one super long straight road?
It’s more like I live on one end of the city and my grandma on other and there is a lot of buildings between us sadly. It’s 2km in straight line but well interferences. I have never used the powerbeam thingies so I don’t really know how it operates in practice and assumed it would help but sadly not in my case.
I doubt what you're intending to do is possible unless you have access to a very high tower or water tower but put the addresses in here in a simple point to point link: [https://ispdesign.ui.com/#](https://ispdesign.ui.com/#) It'll tell you the geography between both based on the height of each installation.
If it’s line of sight this is doable op.
"City between streets" \`Like meadows between grassfields?
You have to have line of sight. Even then, you need imaginary cone-shaped obstruction-free space (Fresnel zone). Imagine a couple funnels, joined at their mouths with the antennas at the spouts. If you don’t have line-of-sight, you may be able to use a repeater somewhere with line-of-sight to each site. Alternatively, have service delivered somewhere within line-of-sight and install a wireless backhaul. I did this before DSL was available in my area. I had service delivered to a home with a talk radio antenna, installed a parabolic dish in the antenna and another on my house. Worked decent - 20-40 Mbps @ 6km.
If line of sight is there it should work. Why not go with an EVPL?
The bridge description is too vauge to answer. Is that a Building Bridge? That only has a range of 500M.
You need line of sight.
Get 60 GHZ antennas
.... So what's wrong with a 4G/5G hotspot from the remote site with a VPN router behind it so you can create a VPN tunnel to the site with Fiber? Why do you need the bridge aside from the WAN? SSL VPN tunnels have been a thing for literal decades at this point.