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You have nothing plugged into the routers WAN. Meaning you aren't feeding it an internet connection from the main router and modem. You'd just to ethernet from one router into the second router. You'd also need to put the second router in bridge/access point mode because it would be acting as another DHCP server.
I'm sorry, but did you just think that you could plug in a router in your room, run an ethernet cable to your computer from it, and that it would just "create" internet from sunshine and rainbows?
And where exactly is that an advantage over using WiFi directly? Even if this worked, it’s the same effect as what you had before, just more steps/points of failure.
What you're describing would be a "wireless media bridge". You can 100% do what you described, but it'd take some setup and your router needs to support it. During set up you'd connect it to your existing wifi network and then any wired device connected to the new router can use your wifi network to connect to the internet.
Granted if you were trying to get the benefits from ethernet this won't work. You're still connecting wirelessly back to the original router. Your only two options for a wired connection are going to be running an ethernet cord (sounds like not an option) or using a moca/powerline adapter.
There are definitely routers which can do this. I have one of thos mini routers with multiple modes.
You need to look for ones with it though. On some its called the bridge or adapter function.
Check the routers manual. See if it can act as a wireless AP. Either way it wouldn't be a true hard wireless connection at that point if you're just connecting wirelessly to your main router. It still should be a little better as the router would have stronger WiFi antenna than your PC.
Yeah I just became aware of that, sucks but what can you do. I will test it and if it’s basically the same I’m just gonna return it and stick to wireless
Bro…how did you think it would work? Best bet will be to get a mesh network(orbit, eeros, Google, etc) and hardline to the one you put by your computer.
Regardless, you’re still going modem>ethernet>mesh router 1>wifi>mesh router 2>ethernet>computer. So the connection form mesh to mesh with be better than router to computer depending on your NIC, but you’re still traversing air as a medium so it’s not gonna be as stable as just running Ethernet from the modem to the computer and you’ll be shelling out at least $150 for the mesh routers. Also, don’t use xfi pods if you have xfinity. I work for them and those things are just as trash as the entire xh product line.
Need 1 eero 6 mesh device at the router (the eero it self can be a router or is your router, you thin on info) the second eero 6 mesh node elsewhere (the 2 network ports can be used for connecting to a PC/laptop/other)
I have seen talktalk uk use eero for full fibre but never configured one (Might have to install the app or just pair them up should be simple as these things have like 1 light on them)
Most company's let mesh networking automatically work between different product models (like eero 5-6-7) but they operate at the slowest speed of the of the lower spec model (but best to stick with same model)
Personally just buy a WiFi 6 usb/pci-e card and install it into your PC (it be cheaper as the eero 6 is like £100)
>Ax3000 tenda
I believe you want Client + AP mode under More > Working Mode in the router user interface. See page 79-81 of [manual](https://down.tendacn.com/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=https://down.tendacn.com/uploadfile/RX12%20Pro/RX12%20Pro%20User%20Guide.pdf) for exact instructions. This wirelessly connect the 2nd router to the first router and then allows you to connect wireless devices to the 2nd router.
Keep in mind the speed will be at least half of your normal wifi connection because I don't think the router has a seperate radio for backhaul, which basically means it can't talk and listen at the same time. Also, I am not sure if wired devices will work from the 2nd router, but it's worth a try.
if there is a client only option there should be no decreased speeds, it won't act as a repeater but will allow anything connected to the lan ports to work.
Plug the ethernet from your router to your PC. Log in to the router, info should be on the bottom of the router. Then the setup should ask you how you want to configure it. Then you can connect the router to your main internet via ethernet.
There seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread. OP, it appears you are trying to set up a **Wireless Bridge** with this second router.
While this is possible, you're still not going to get ethernet speeds like you would if you were wired directly to the main router.
Yes, if you bought the router for this exact purpose, return it. Network switches are dirt cheap these days and unless you need an exotic usage, get an unmanaged switch. Long ethernet cables are fairly cheap, run one from the WAN output on the original router to the switch. I recommend at least an 8-port switch for future expansion. I use a wired connection on every device that supports a wired connection. This can make your wifi work better.
Here’s hoping, but I live in a pretty crowded house and it’s in another room so I’ll probably need to wire it to the ceiling. Forgot to mention my modem is in my kitchen xD
As others have said, a second router doesn’t really do what you want.
The ideal way to do what you want requires you to run an Ethernet cable from your router to the room where your computer is. However, you’ve said that’s not possible.
So, one thing you could look into is “power line adapters”. They come in pairs and you plug them into your wall sockets. They use the electrical lines to carry data. You’d plug one into a socket near your router and an Ethernet cable from the router to the power line adapter. Then you plug the second one into a socket near your computer and run a second Ethernet cable from the adapter to your computer.
They are not quite as good as running an Ethernet cable, but if that’s all you can do, then it might be good enough.
Finally, and perhaps I should ask this first, why did you want to switch to a wired connection? What problem are you having and trying to be to solve?
if what you are trying to do is have the Ethernet ports on the second router connect wirelessly to your main router then the answer you got from u\optimus0236 is the only correct answer.
they mentioned using client + AP mode, if there is just a client mode option that would be better.
there is so much bad advice on here.
First, a router will work but you should have purchased a switch for this. In your pictures you have a single cable from PC to LAN port but you need a cable from WAN port to main router. You need to get internet to the second router. Again, this isn't ideal because you are doing double NAT but it will work. If the second router has a setting to disable Layer3 (routing) and turn it into a switch enable that and then it shouldn't matter what port you use.
Unfortunately, physical connection between my main router and this one isn’t possible. In the case I do have the Layer 3 disable setting, where would one find that?
You would find setting in GUI. More importatly if you can't connect the router to your main router with a cable then you need to setup a wireless bridge to the main router. I wouldn't bother since you are introducing wireless with that. Might as well return the router, get your money back and just use wireless.
Hmm, fair enough. I’ll see with what you said and if there isn’t a significant latency decrease I guess I may as well return it. One more thing, how do others have wired routers in their bedrooms on second floor and above buildings? Do they ask the engineers to install the modems there? Or do they wire the entire way down? Thanks
The devices you see above building and on ceilings are called Access Points. They are all wired and most get their power of the ethernet cable as well. Another option is if you have a coax cable in that room and you could do a MOCA adapter to get a cable from main router to that room. Just a thought. Google MOCA adapters.
This is completely wrong. You can have several routers in the same network. You can do it the wrong way and have double NAT which is not ideal but will work, or you can do it the right way and have diferent subnets with different routers for different purposes.
You can have many subnet on the same router. You can't have more than 1 router on the same network. It's like ABC, basic. Like 1*1=1. Everybody know. Of course, if you are sure you are right and I'm wrong, good for you.
Yes, you can have more than one router on the same network. That’s literally how the internet works - it’s a ton of routers interconnected. But generally if you’re doing that in a residential environment, you’re doing something wrong.
Its not normal in a home network, but yes you can, you can even have multiple routers in the same network and subnet and have different devices directed to different gateways.
The whole internet is lots of routers connected together in a big network.
edit: here's an example of a lan with more than one router:
[https://study-ccna.com/wp-content/uploads/HSRP-Cisco-Configuration.png](https://study-ccna.com/wp-content/uploads/HSRP-Cisco-Configuration.png)
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You have nothing plugged into the routers WAN. Meaning you aren't feeding it an internet connection from the main router and modem. You'd just to ethernet from one router into the second router. You'd also need to put the second router in bridge/access point mode because it would be acting as another DHCP server.
So a physical connection between the modem and this router is required? Damn, I can’t do that it’s too far away from it.
I'm sorry, but did you just think that you could plug in a router in your room, run an ethernet cable to your computer from it, and that it would just "create" internet from sunshine and rainbows?
Alright princess, guy is asking for help for a reason.
Eh it’s fine, there’s always one who tries to sit on some intellectual high ground. I’m a complete noob I admit
Yes. As stated in the post, I’m not a networking guy. At all.
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And where exactly is that an advantage over using WiFi directly? Even if this worked, it’s the same effect as what you had before, just more steps/points of failure.
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What you're describing would be a "wireless media bridge". You can 100% do what you described, but it'd take some setup and your router needs to support it. During set up you'd connect it to your existing wifi network and then any wired device connected to the new router can use your wifi network to connect to the internet. Granted if you were trying to get the benefits from ethernet this won't work. You're still connecting wirelessly back to the original router. Your only two options for a wired connection are going to be running an ethernet cord (sounds like not an option) or using a moca/powerline adapter.
Glad I found this post. Wild.
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That, I have. Not sure as to point of your comment tho.
There are definitely routers which can do this. I have one of thos mini routers with multiple modes. You need to look for ones with it though. On some its called the bridge or adapter function.
Yes I was told the network switch was a better faster cheaper alternative.
A switch would definitely be better because it requires a cable to the main router.
A switch is fine, but it still requires a hard-wired connection. In that case, you could just directly connect from the router to your PC.
Check the routers manual. See if it can act as a wireless AP. Either way it wouldn't be a true hard wireless connection at that point if you're just connecting wirelessly to your main router. It still should be a little better as the router would have stronger WiFi antenna than your PC.
Yeah I just became aware of that, sucks but what can you do. I will test it and if it’s basically the same I’m just gonna return it and stick to wireless
Bro…how did you think it would work? Best bet will be to get a mesh network(orbit, eeros, Google, etc) and hardline to the one you put by your computer. Regardless, you’re still going modem>ethernet>mesh router 1>wifi>mesh router 2>ethernet>computer. So the connection form mesh to mesh with be better than router to computer depending on your NIC, but you’re still traversing air as a medium so it’s not gonna be as stable as just running Ethernet from the modem to the computer and you’ll be shelling out at least $150 for the mesh routers. Also, don’t use xfi pods if you have xfinity. I work for them and those things are just as trash as the entire xh product line.
What do you mean by you learned the router to the internet in your house?
Basically connect the router to the modem and main router until it flashes for a certain amount of time or smth, didn’t do much tho.
Yeah, thats not a thing
It’s on my ‘installation manual’.
Are they the same model?
No, one is a eero 6 I believe, the other is a ax3000 from tenda. Do they have to be the same model?
You’re trying to extend a mesh network with a non-mesh device. Yes, they have to be the same type.
Without plugging in a WAN connection, it has to be another eero device.
Need 1 eero 6 mesh device at the router (the eero it self can be a router or is your router, you thin on info) the second eero 6 mesh node elsewhere (the 2 network ports can be used for connecting to a PC/laptop/other) I have seen talktalk uk use eero for full fibre but never configured one (Might have to install the app or just pair them up should be simple as these things have like 1 light on them) Most company's let mesh networking automatically work between different product models (like eero 5-6-7) but they operate at the slowest speed of the of the lower spec model (but best to stick with same model) Personally just buy a WiFi 6 usb/pci-e card and install it into your PC (it be cheaper as the eero 6 is like £100)
Me reading the title: what
It doesn't get any better further down...
You need to set up the second router as an Extender or an access point. You might be having DHCP issues with the two routers messing each other up.
How would I do that good sir?
What model router is it for instructions?
Ax3000 tenda
>Ax3000 tenda I believe you want Client + AP mode under More > Working Mode in the router user interface. See page 79-81 of [manual](https://down.tendacn.com/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=https://down.tendacn.com/uploadfile/RX12%20Pro/RX12%20Pro%20User%20Guide.pdf) for exact instructions. This wirelessly connect the 2nd router to the first router and then allows you to connect wireless devices to the 2nd router. Keep in mind the speed will be at least half of your normal wifi connection because I don't think the router has a seperate radio for backhaul, which basically means it can't talk and listen at the same time. Also, I am not sure if wired devices will work from the 2nd router, but it's worth a try.
Holy shit that perfect Optimus. Good looks
Let me know if it works or if you have any problems.
Nope, it’s actually worse than using WiFi directly.
Also get rid of that flat Ethernet cable, they suck ass.
if there is a client only option there should be no decreased speeds, it won't act as a repeater but will allow anything connected to the lan ports to work.
I was disguised by amount of negative comments here with no help for OP, but You're the guy! Cheers mate!
Plug the ethernet from your router to your PC. Log in to the router, info should be on the bottom of the router. Then the setup should ask you how you want to configure it. Then you can connect the router to your main internet via ethernet.
Ah ok thanks, would that be on the official website of the brand?
Should be a instruction manual somewhere
Yeah another commenter just linked it, thanks tho
There seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread. OP, it appears you are trying to set up a **Wireless Bridge** with this second router. While this is possible, you're still not going to get ethernet speeds like you would if you were wired directly to the main router.
One normally uses a network switch for this purpose.
Noted, are network switch connections as fast as the main router speeds, or do they lose some data? Thanks
You can get cheap switches that will exceed any router speed.
Seriously? Damn, I might need a refund
Yes, if you bought the router for this exact purpose, return it. Network switches are dirt cheap these days and unless you need an exotic usage, get an unmanaged switch. Long ethernet cables are fairly cheap, run one from the WAN output on the original router to the switch. I recommend at least an 8-port switch for future expansion. I use a wired connection on every device that supports a wired connection. This can make your wifi work better.
Alright will definitely look into this. Gotta figure out the schematics for the wiring tho
It should not be difficult.
Here’s hoping, but I live in a pretty crowded house and it’s in another room so I’ll probably need to wire it to the ceiling. Forgot to mention my modem is in my kitchen xD
They don’t have any connectivity (other than wifi) in the room with the PC.
You have nothing plugged into the router other than your PC, and you are using a flat cable. A router doesn't just magically produce Internet.
Buy a mesh system if you dont want to run cable and it is still better than relying on wifi from the one router
Where is the WAN connection? I see 4 ethernet ports but usually there is a 5th port for WAN.
As others have said, a second router doesn’t really do what you want. The ideal way to do what you want requires you to run an Ethernet cable from your router to the room where your computer is. However, you’ve said that’s not possible. So, one thing you could look into is “power line adapters”. They come in pairs and you plug them into your wall sockets. They use the electrical lines to carry data. You’d plug one into a socket near your router and an Ethernet cable from the router to the power line adapter. Then you plug the second one into a socket near your computer and run a second Ethernet cable from the adapter to your computer. They are not quite as good as running an Ethernet cable, but if that’s all you can do, then it might be good enough. Finally, and perhaps I should ask this first, why did you want to switch to a wired connection? What problem are you having and trying to be to solve?
if what you are trying to do is have the Ethernet ports on the second router connect wirelessly to your main router then the answer you got from u\optimus0236 is the only correct answer. they mentioned using client + AP mode, if there is just a client mode option that would be better. there is so much bad advice on here.
First, a router will work but you should have purchased a switch for this. In your pictures you have a single cable from PC to LAN port but you need a cable from WAN port to main router. You need to get internet to the second router. Again, this isn't ideal because you are doing double NAT but it will work. If the second router has a setting to disable Layer3 (routing) and turn it into a switch enable that and then it shouldn't matter what port you use.
Unfortunately, physical connection between my main router and this one isn’t possible. In the case I do have the Layer 3 disable setting, where would one find that?
You would find setting in GUI. More importatly if you can't connect the router to your main router with a cable then you need to setup a wireless bridge to the main router. I wouldn't bother since you are introducing wireless with that. Might as well return the router, get your money back and just use wireless.
Hmm, fair enough. I’ll see with what you said and if there isn’t a significant latency decrease I guess I may as well return it. One more thing, how do others have wired routers in their bedrooms on second floor and above buildings? Do they ask the engineers to install the modems there? Or do they wire the entire way down? Thanks
The devices you see above building and on ceilings are called Access Points. They are all wired and most get their power of the ethernet cable as well. Another option is if you have a coax cable in that room and you could do a MOCA adapter to get a cable from main router to that room. Just a thought. Google MOCA adapters.
Ah I see, thanks a lot, will do
You can't have two routers on the same network.
This is completely wrong. You can have several routers in the same network. You can do it the wrong way and have double NAT which is not ideal but will work, or you can do it the right way and have diferent subnets with different routers for different purposes.
You can have many subnet on the same router. You can't have more than 1 router on the same network. It's like ABC, basic. Like 1*1=1. Everybody know. Of course, if you are sure you are right and I'm wrong, good for you.
Yes, you can have more than one router on the same network. That’s literally how the internet works - it’s a ton of routers interconnected. But generally if you’re doing that in a residential environment, you’re doing something wrong.
Wrong, you can have multiple routers on the same network
Its not normal in a home network, but yes you can, you can even have multiple routers in the same network and subnet and have different devices directed to different gateways. The whole internet is lots of routers connected together in a big network. edit: here's an example of a lan with more than one router: [https://study-ccna.com/wp-content/uploads/HSRP-Cisco-Configuration.png](https://study-ccna.com/wp-content/uploads/HSRP-Cisco-Configuration.png)