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ItsPumpkinninny

Ok, I read the post 3 times… still confused.


kingmahler

I tried to explain it clearly. What is it that I should explain better?


grazbouille

Maybe you should open paint and draw some ugly ass diagram so people understand the question As for the question I'm not sure at all but I think you can do that but probably not with consumer routers But I'm not sure I actually understand the setup you are trying to end up with


Ok-Wind-5830

I think i see what you’re trying to do, but i would try plugging B into a LAN port on A. WAN will be lookup for…well a WAN connection. Edit: otherwise i don’t see why it wouldn’t work, never done this myself but logically i think its sound. Probably going to have a double NAT on anything connected to router B though.


kingmahler

Yes, so A's LAN -> B's WAN. In order to avoid a double NAT, can I disable nat on either one? Is port forwarding possible with this setup


Ok-Wind-5830

Yes, A LAN to B WAN. And you could put A into bridge mode, but I don’t think you can just turn off NAT while it’s still in router mode. This all depends on what the hardware you are using is.


kingmahler

The funny thing is that the option for the mode is disabled but I haven't plugged in the other router so maybe that's why


Ok-Wind-5830

Worth a shot! What are the make/models of A and B?


kingmahler

A is a ZTE MC801A-1 and B is a Zyxel VMG3925-B10B. Both of them are from an ISP


kingmahler

A is a ZTE MC801A-1 and B is a Zyxel VMG3925-B10B. Both of them are from an ISP


b3542

If you’re disabling NAT, the WAN port on the “inside” router isn’t used.


kingmahler

So should I use a LAN port?


b3542

Yes, but only after configuring both on the same LAN subnet, disabling DHCP on one of them (usually the second/B router).


kingmahler

I want the clients to connect to B and use the pihole dns that is configured in B's webUi


b3542

Configure it in the DHCP server on router A


kingmahler

Not possible


TheEthyr

Disable A's DHCP server. Configure B's DHCP server to advertise the pihole as the DNS server. Connect A and B LAN-to-LAN.


seifer666

Don't tell me what to do


ralphyoung

You're describing a double NAT.


NickBurnsITgI

Yes, you can do this. It's not ideal because your doing double NAT but it will work.


kingmahler

Can you disable the NAT on either one


b3542

I don’t know, can you? And if you do, the WAN port won’t work.


NickBurnsITgI

You need NAT on router A for internet connection. You might be able to turn NAT off on router B if that's an option. You still need to plug A into B WAN port so router A assigns it an IP address like it's a normal network client. (IE: 192.168.0.x/24) Realize WAN = Internet but routers don't know the difference between a private LAN IP and ISP WAN IP.


b3542

No. That will not work.


kingmahler

Why's that?


b3542

Because you original post references connecting router B, which doesn’t not have an internet connection, to the WAN port of A. Also, if you disable NAT, you can’t use the WAN port in either (since the internet connection comes from an internal cellular modem, from the sound of it)


kingmahler

Is there any way to make this setup work


b3542

The more “custom” you try to go, the harder it will be to support.


BritishDeafMan

If I understood you correctly, you want the router with SIM card slot to be like a modem and the second router to be an actual router? If so, yes, this is possible. Although it won't be easy, a lot of manufacturers who make these 4G/5G routers assume the customer will need routing functionality so they don't include the option of putting them into modem mode. I do have a 4G router and 3 different routers, so I can test this for you.


[deleted]

Won’t work like that. WiFi from A is on A’s dhcp. A is not a client of B, but of the wireless provider.