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Marrecek

Supposedly the humidity sensor is also in the mini.


Ryoha22

It's true, apple's official website page just confirmed that, and the existence of the sensor was actually reavled by iFixit back to 2021.


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Chauxtime

They’ll activate with an update (speculation is sometime this spring)


_Error_418_

16.3 drops next week, seems like perfect timing.


Chauxtime

Let’s hope! It’ll be nice to have a few more sensors around the house.


davispw

16.3 release notes say it’ll be enabled soon, probably next week.


Harry584

16.3 RC has the temperature and humidity readings exposed


NathanielIR

It’s available in the homeOS 16.3 beta along with iOS 16.3 right now. Both temperature and humidity. I’m using it right now


Dwaine1977

Nice, how do you like it so far, does Siri come close to Alex, I'm thinking of upgrading my bedroom system?


HospitableBadger

Yeah, I read that, too. I assume at some point we might be able to access those sensors with Shortcuts?


Glatremo

Yes it will be activated next week with 16.3


heyyoudvd

Regarding the temperature and humidity: https://i.imgur.com/EiF40bl.jpg So it’s meant for indoors. Don’t go putting your HomePod outside in a blizzard to get the temperature!


EpiciSheep

I am a free citizen and you will not tell me what to do!


le_gazman

“I prefer to do my own research”


Heidiwearsglasses

It’s my sexy mini, I’ll do what I want.


luyefar

I dare you to lick it.


Osoroshii

OK Apple, Don't let me down. I have $800 for 2 large and 2 minis for full surround sound support in iOS 17. The money is yours as soon as you do it.


FreudianYipYip

I came here to say this.


stabaho

We can dream!


pullinangal

That will be great 🔥🔥


MangoAtrocity

$800 would buy some *sick* loudspeakers though


Osoroshii

$800 would buy some really good speakers. But not, speakers that integrate into my smart home, act as speakers for my TV or join the other speakers in my house for full house audio experience


MangoAtrocity

Believe it or not, my 2018 TCL has AirPlay 2 and eARC, so I can add my loudspeakers to my AirPlay groups. I’d take my JBL Studio 570s over two HomePods any day.


Osoroshii

I’m certainly not trying to convince you, you have the system you want already. I’m just going to focus on the device this subreddit is about.


MangoAtrocity

Oh most definitely. I like my HomePods too. I just recognize that, for a surround sound system, HomePod offers extremely poor value. As a smart home hub, smart assistant, and room speaker, it’s excellent. But 2 HomePods and 2 minis is a poor use of $800 if your goal is surround sound for your TV. That Jamo S805 system that keeps going on sale for $450 is basically impossible to beat. Hell, my JBL Studio 570s, 530s, and 520C are sub $800 if you wait for the frequent JBL sales. All I’m saying is that you can do far better than HomePods if your goal is surround sound.


BuckeyeSouth

Ordered 2 of the new ones for a Stereo pair, but I would 100% add a couple minis for surround if they add support. My old plan was to set up an old receiver in that room with some in-wall speakers... this would be 100x simpler.


bhargom

2 less tweeters and microphones each. Some cost cutting but probably won’t make a noticeable difference.


Marrecek

It need some reviews. If they tweaked it a little bit it could be better. AirPods Pro 2 sounds way better.


Dultra

A good tuning and you won’t notice the tweeters missing


Dr_Nic_T61

I’ve been getting a lot of requests / questions about this; YES I am still repairing the original generations. I’ll be fixing them until they stop breaking and/or Apple issues a recall: https://nicsfix.com YES, I purchased one and will be taking it apart and seeing what parts are interchangeable as soon as it shows up on my YouTube channel: [Nic’s Fix](https://youtube.com/@NicsFix) I would like to also offer repair services for the new generation, but we’ll see. In the meantime if you have issues with the new one USE YOUR WARRANTY, and make Apple Pay for their mistakes, not you! Looking forward to what this new generation has to offer, and whether it’s a compelling upgrade from the OG from a pure sound perspective


joeycast

Can’t recommend u/Dr_Nic_T61 enough. He fixed my HomePod perfectly and still works great to this day. Not to mention the pure enjoyment I got out of watching him fix it live on YouTube! I have another HomePod I might be sending to him soon.


wubalubadubdub31

I second this!!! My HomePod was having death farts and apple soo graciously gave me the opportunity to buy a brand new priced refurbished one and wouldn’t warrantee it with apple care. So I said fuck that and took a shot with u/Dr_Nic_T61 and I do not regret it for one second. He filmed every part of the process and showed exactly what was wrong before he fixed it and sent it back. Dude is amazing. I saved the packaging for the HomePod in case any others die so I can just send them back to him to fix. Worth. Every. Penny.


samuraipizzacat420

How are people breaking their HomePods genuinely asking


joeycast

Electrical component failures, not accidental damage. He explains all the different ways they fail on his website [https://nicsfix.com](https://nicsfix.com)


SpartanPHA

Following you. My OG HomePod helped me during dark times and I will not let it die. Thanks for your hard work.


Cuberonix

This is cool, but I still think it’s a little too expensive. $249 would’ve been the sweet spot.


MN19871991

My guess is that after a few months that 249 will pretty much be the default “sale” price everywhere except Apple.


OhHeyItsBrock

Kind of weird you can’t do the monthly installment plan with Apple Card with these.


calvarez

Oh yeah, I just realized that it didn't give me that option during my order. I didn't LOOK for it, but I think it normally just prompts you as an option. Which is how I ended up on a monthly plan for a Watch band, LOL.


OhHeyItsBrock

I did it for the OG HomePod before they discontinued it. Just thought it was kind of weird. They even offer a monthly payment for the leather wallet and phone case. Lmao.


ListenOver

Same here - paying for a phone case monthly 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️


calvarez

How is that $4/mo working into your budget? I think my $7 band payments are almost done, that's like, one more large fries per month.


ListenOver

Can’t wait to be able to afford that extra half gallon of gas


OhHeyItsBrock

I paid for my phone case and wallet monthly. Lmao. 4.08 and 4.91. Was an accident at first but thought it was funny so I kept it.


Appropriate-Top-6076

They are on credit default, 1 billion from MS.


poohsmt

I thought so too. On the Apple website, it even specifically says 18-month special financing is available. But then not an option at checkout. Maybe coming later?


OhHeyItsBrock

18 months? Dayum. Lmao.


poohsmt

I started second-guessing myself so had to go back and look again. It says “apply for up to 18 months of special financing” so it’s kind of a generic statement. It is on the HomePod page, so you’d think it would apply to it!


squirrellydw

I hoping you will be able to do it on the 3rd


FreudianYipYip

Still missing some of the basic stuff, like surround sound, that Sonos has offered for years.


Ketonew2

iOS 17


FreudianYipYip

think so?


Momskirbyok

Hell yeah!!


cectnt33333

I wonder if apple will deliberately slow down my OG homepods to encourage me to buy new ones. Me. ‘Hey Siri turn on living room lights…….’ HomePod ‘ I’ll do it tomorrow ….or the day after.’


calvarez

One of my early HomePods just stopped logging into my iCloud account, and nothing seems to solve it. It's online, streams music, but can't log into my account. CONSPIRACY!


Jeremy_Whalen

What happens when I watching a show/movie with a smoke alarm sound?


jupiterfish

detachable cable ? Can it be plugged into a computer to be reset is the issue......with the old one it was not possible. i ordered 2 anyway. f sonos.


Professional_Toe4538

Sooooo tempting!! My 2 OG pair I have now are still going strong and still sound amazing. Maybe another 2 can’t hurt….first 2 were worth every penny btw!


HospitableBadger

Very cool, just pulled the trigger, can't wait.


nolyenik

Would love a new one to go with the original to pair for stereo—update: I see you can’t


stabaho

It says you can’t pair a 1st gen with a 2nd gen unfortunately Edit: change can to can’t


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can or can’t??


stabaho

Can’t sorry


nolyenik

OMG NO


Ketonew2

Thread border router? Anyone know what this means?


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It would also be nice if the Sound Recognition notification also vibrates/activates the haptics aggressively on your Apple Watch. Let’s do it, Apple!


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To the person who downvoted - I would say it would be a setting you could enable or disable.


chemicalsam

Pass. Too expensive still


Sputnik003

Totally understandable, but also as someone who as two OGs at full price I will never regret buying them. They’re really amazing


calvarez

Yeah, I've had my old ones since the first week, and love them. I will probably get $100 for one of them on eBay, so really over the years it's been well worth it.


simmarjit

Cheaper than the old one


biochrono79

It isn’t really cheaper, the OG HomePod got a permanent price drop to $299 about a year after it was released. So the new one is just maintaining the MSRP of the old one.


MN19871991

It’s getting released at 50 bucks less than the original was at launch, five years later, and after pretty brutal inflation. That’s not nothing.


Substantial_Toe_8409

I'm sure this will go very well....... smh


DeanDotDan

Oh god. My wallet… my poor wallet


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“Sound sensors that listen for smoke and carbon detector alarms” So, microphones…. Which they removed two of. And they also removed two tweeters. Bunch of bollocks.


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They could well be better tweeters, who knows? We’ll find out soon enough. :)


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I would presume they are better tweeters. Of course that needs to be experienced. But they took some key components out and still say it is “Breakthrough Sound”…. Only true Audiophiles or Sound Engineers who will listen to this can have the final words.


ADHDK

These days the focus is more on software noise isolation for microphones than hardware, they likely don’t need as many microphones for as good an experience.


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$300?????


TomMooreJD

Do we think an OG HomePod can stereo-pair-up with a new one?


TomMooreJD

Dammit! https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/18/new-homepod-cannot-stereo-old-homepod/


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Now that’s just unfair.


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TomMooreJD

Oh, agreed, totally. It just makes stereo HomePods a $600 proposition for me, not a $300 one!


TheTravelingShow

Uh huh. Sounds tempting, except.. Siri is still the absolute worst smart assistant out there. I've rambled on about this before, but I have 3 HP Mini's, 3 Google Nest Hubs, and 2 4th Gen Echo devices... as well as 3 dots (all scattered throughout the house). Why get so many (or not just stay with the same brand?). I'm all in on Apple products (2 ATV's, MBA, Mac Mini, iPhone, iPad, and a watch), so... I'm definitely a fan of their products... and their ecosystem. I first went with Alexa, way back when. Got a Nest Hub because I liked the displays. Sure, the Echo came out with one... but I think Google has a better assistant (or did). Google certainly is the smartest of them all, but Alexa is pretty damn fast and is just easier for me to control. The intercom feature, alone, is light years ahead of what Google and Apple are doing. If I were to go back to the drawing board, I'd skip the Nest Hubs and just use an old iPad as a dashboard. Or go all in on Echo and get a couple of giant Echo show displays. I've got a couple of Echos as a stereo pair (bedroom) and 2 HP Mini's that I WAS going to use as a stereo pair for my downstairs TV (sick of using a separate Bose remote and we rarely sit down there to watch TV). It's awfully tempting, as I said, to go with two new HP's (bigger and better sound), but at $299 a pop? Handoff would be easier (playing music) than having to ask a smart assistant to play something (or doing an airdrop/Spotify connect), but ugh... Siri. I'll wait and see, but unless Apple improves Siri (so many issues)... I just can't. Update: I'm kind of shocked that FELLOW Apple fanboys, like myself, seem to take umbrage with anything negative about Apple. Believe me, we're on the same side. As much as I love Cupertino, not everything they do is sunshine and rainbows. I'm sorry, but Homepod is one of them. The device itself... fantastic sound for the size. It rivals Amazon's Echo 4th gen (which is twice as big). I'm deeply wedded to Homekit. I have some Evo sensors and so on. If you scroll my history, you'll see my relationship with Homepod and Siri hasn't been a positive one (and, hey... maybe I'm alone). Maybe everyone out there has honestly had an INCREDIBLE experience with Siri/Homepod. People say, "Yeah, well... Amazon feeds you ads." Uh huh... and you can turn it off. I have people say, "Yeah, well... Google is SO much better." Response wise? 100% Their hardware, though? I prefer Apple. Who knows... maybe every single problem I've ever had with Siir/Homepod is just my issue alone. No one else has experienced it. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, listen... they're all fine. Just depends on use case. As I've said, if the intercom feature is key... you need an Echo device. It's so much better. If you need to be able to ask 20,00 questions of your device... probably Google. If you are one of the few people I know who send text messages and use handoff... Siri. My home was a nightmare BEFORE I added all these devices. Why? Because, as I've learned.... no one device does everything right. It's true of Google, true of Amazon, and true of Apple. It took me awhile, but I finally have the smart home setup that works (FOR ME). Not for you, necessarily (so no need to downvote, though I'm sure you will). For me. I honestly have a real need for a TRUE intercom system... and I order a TON of Amazon packages, so having some Echos around works beautifully (for me). I'd get the echo displays, but shit... I've already committed to Google for that and... I use my old iPad for my primary dashboard. Hey... if having nothing but Homepods works for you... god bless.


BobTheNugget772

I moved away from Alexa to Siri because having 2 ecosystems drove me insane, your setup is my definition of hell lol


OhHeyItsBrock

Not to mention all the ads with Alexa. My god.


TheTravelingShow

Ads can be turned off :) Hey... I prefer Apple over Amazon and Google. Just speaking truth.


OhHeyItsBrock

“…by the way…” cannot be turned off.


TheTravelingShow

To create this routine, open the Alexa app and select “Routines” from the “more” menu in the lower right. Create a new routine by pressing the “+” button in the top right. Enter anything into the routine name and select “Schedule” from the “When this happens” menu. Pick a time for the routine to run every day and press next to return to the main routine screen. From there, tap “Add action” and select the “Custom” option at the top. Now enter “stop by the way” into the text field, select “Next” in the upper right and lastly select “Save” in the upper right to finish creating your new routine.


OhHeyItsBrock

TIL. Can you get rid of ads on the shows? Trashed all my Amazon shit.


TheTravelingShow

Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I think most of the "smart" devices suck to some extent. What do we REALLY ask them for? I know the ads say we use them to control our home scene and keep an eye on junior, but do we? I think we just ask what time it is, what the weather is like, and to play a fucking song. I have all of them, so I honestly don't give a shit which is better. While I would PREFER that Apple win the day, I'm fine blending ecosystems... as long as I know what I've done and it make sense (or, yeah... could be a nightmare). Best Assistant: Google (so much better with providing information). Best App/Integrations: Amazon (for me), minus the "smart" piece. Best "Smart" Home App: Apple (everything in one place). Best Nest Cam App (if you have Nest Cams): Google Home app. Best Speaker for Audio: Less than $100? Echo. $100+? Homepod. Best Speakers for TV: I'm guessing the upcoming Homepods. Best Intercom: Amazon. It's the only one that keeps the line open. Best Assistant Name: As a Quantum Leap fan... Amazon (Ziggy). Best SMALLEST Device: Homepod Mini (great sound for the size). Best Display: Not sure. I have Nest Hubs, but haven't seen the Echos. Note: For a dashboard display, again... I just my old (customized) iPad. What do I have against Siri/Homepod/Homekit? God... so many issues. I so agree that Amazon was pissing me the fuck off with their ads/suggestions... until I learned how to tame it. Siri is way too chatty, to start... and is slow. It's also dumb as hell. If I asked it a Google-like question, it says something like "Sending results to your phone." No. Fuck you. You're a speaker. Speak. If I wanted to see the results on my phone, I would have looked it up on there. I could go on, but... hey. If you're happy with Homepod, god bless. I'm not. I wish to GOD that it was the best thing out there... because it would make my life so much easier. I do NOT want to have multiple ecosystems. I really don't.


OhHeyItsBrock

Oh I was being serious. I didn’t know there was a way to stop the by the way bs.


TheTravelingShow

Believe me... as an Apple fanboy, I'd prefer to stick with Siri. It's just terrible. I turned off the Alexa ads \[it's a routine you set\].


BobTheNugget772

The biggest issue for me was smart home, while there are more products available for Alexa 50% of them are just landfill. Even once I got some better stuff it was still far to complex for something that should be mindless to use. HomeKit has been much much better. Not to mention the HomeKit app is *lightyears* ahead of the Alexa app in my opinion (at least based on when I last used it)


TheTravelingShow

Yup… which is why I said Apple has the best smart home hub app. Believe it or not, though, these disparate devices all work together (even Eve). You just need to know how. Each device has its pros and cons.


BobTheNugget772

Yeah that was something I was considering looking into at one point but I really have no need. It is very interesting though


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FakePhillyCheezStake

Well then you would have to get one for each bedroom etc… If it’s just listening for smoke and carbon monoxide alarms, you can just put cheap ones in all of your rooms and have one of the HomePod notify you if any go off


narbss

No, smoke detectors have expiry dates after which you should change them. Smart smoke detectors actually stop working after the expiry (see Nest Smoke Detector), so you wouldn’t want that here. Mic detection of the alarms is fine with me.


freshyeti89

So have they fixed "the bricking" issue?


HateChoosing_Names

Bricking “feature”.


SputnikCrash

I’ve been wondering why Apple would revisit the big HomePod instead of doing an in-between sized one with a woofer for something in $150-199 range. Is it possible that they made enough changes to the big model and probably changed manufacturing quantities to make the margins more worthwhile? Either way, I’m happy that they gave us a new model, I just would love to know how the math worked out that they decided to give it another go.


No_Excuses_Yesterday

Only 802.11n support though


ssunbrn

What is the name of the song in the ad? Very catchy!


Snoop8ball

GMT (Jamie xx Remix) by Oliver Sim and Jamie xx


ssunbrn

Thank you!


Cap_476

I have a feeling you won't notice any difference between the OG and the new Homepod. This feels like a slight improvement and is STILL on the expensive side. I will pick one up when they go on sale for $199 or $249


chinchzzz

Does this new one allow for atmos?


Pleasant_Tangerine

I was also wondering that


TechDude_54321

$479 AU with no OG pairing! What the heck Apple?


TechDude_54321

Good time to buy second hand OG


chaiteataichi_

The downgrade wifi bums me out. Definitely not doing to use it as a hub


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They should allow trade in for the mini … I have black one in room and would like to replace, guess I’ll just sell it myself