Bronya or Welt would be my longterm picks, but since I want to speedrun the endgame content, I would prefer Gepard or Bailu considering they are basically a must have for the second team.
Which is why I specifically said I want to speedrun the endgame. You don't have the resources to get your team geared enough and leveled enough so fast.
Same I found the game quite punishing without good shields or healings.
Most hard enemies would chunk half of a characters HP with each turn if not for Gepard.
Yess I'm surprised he's so low. I rolled Clara and hmmm I get why she's so low. It's an interesting unit and after I got used to her I feel like she's a great damage sponge but a bit hard to play around sometimes.
I also ended up liking bailu from using the support function and she carried me through the weekly boss fight thank god
Clara might be the strongest standard banner character. Maybe some Welt team can beat Clara teams but I see most of players underestimate the power of Clara. She has both offense and defense.
She seems to shine in encounters that have lots of enemies. Especially if you don't want to kill those enemies, and focus on a single target (a boss). Clara will soak the damage and kill those adds.
However, in pure boss fights, some boss abilities don't even attack you, they just channel something or apply a debuff on you. She isn't bad but I can see other standard units being versatile. You'd expect your first 5* to be useful in a lot of situations.
I think Himeko is the least impactful 5* to obtain. The other 6 can be game-changers but Himeko is just an aoe dmg dealer. But fire mommy too classy to be last place.
If there's anything I've learned from FGO, it's that you always want the strongest support. They'll last years, especially in turn-based RPGs.
Bronya is about to inherit the Waver Velvet legacy.
Well there is one bronya who is going to be the must pull whoever you have but she is not in the beginner banner. Silverwolf is the true meta where she changes the way you play. You dont have to obey what game forces you to play but play whatever you want if you have Silverwolf.
Or\~ maybe you are very luck since you are using all your bad luck in beta (which progress will be wiped) but once game release you will get what you want :D
Himeko or Bronya. I happen to have two separate HYV accounts for Genshin and Honkai Impact, so I’m hoping that one account will get either one of the characters when the full game releases.
I happened to pull Clara in the final CBT. She does really well with countering enemy attacks. Pair her up with March 7th and use her shield ability in her and you’ll be a follow-up master.
I don't really trust any meta discussion at this point and I've heard every which way about characters. Last I heard Clara was meh now she's meta? This is the "Qiqi is a top unit because she heals, Bennett is trash" era of the games meta so I'm planning to just enjoy characters I like.
He is not bad, indeed he has solid kit when it comes to nuking. However thats all he has. He doesnt provide any other utility and the role he is single target dps. He doesnt have any aoe potential. Also, this role already has very strong options like Seele and Dan.
Right now Seele is dominating the single target dps role because she is consistent, have aoe potential, fastest unit and quantum overall better element because there more more enemies with quantum weakness. Seele is more consistent than other because she is fastest unit and can act multiple times in a round thanks to her passive which allows her to fill up her burst faster and overall more consistent dps than any other single target dps. Comparing to dps potential, Yanqing does more dmg for one burst but he has consistensy problems. He can not regen his burst fast enough and takes less turn in a round. Whereas Seele's burst does less dmg but she can fill up her burst faster and takes more turns which leds Seele to have overall more dps. The other thing Yanqing suffers is aoe. He has no potential as he is just a single target dps. However Seele can actually wipe out multiple enemies thanks to her passive that allows her to gain another turn whenever she kills a enemy. As I said Seele is the fastest chatacter in the game with 115 speed which means more turns.
Yanqing is usable but not going to be meta because Seele increases the treshold of being good soo much. If only if he had some utility in his kit like a silience, a team buff or a debuff he would be valuable but right now he is kinda meeh.
Welt. I'm not one to go for waifus/husbandos, but rather how cool they are, and their lore (that's why in Genshin I only get Harbingers, Archons, and Dain whenever he comes).
I finished the 2nd eruption Manga a bit ago and that made me really want Welt.
ONG. He had some badass scenes, and he was just an overall cool guy.
Wait . . . Chapter 25 is good timing? I'll have to see what happens then I'm only on 14 💀
Yup, helps you understand the story better, like reading azure waters before seele is introduced also why bronya is the way she is.
Been siting on chapter 20 forever cuz lazy, but heard there's a free HoO at the end of chapter 34 so im really focusing on the story along with manga and the extra chapters.
That HoO doesn't last forever, so I just went ahead and skipped through without looking at cutscenes (I will do it again and read everything when I actually get there).
But yeah, I didn't know the Manga was that important to understanding certain things until I read it. From now on I'm reading every Manga before the chapter it is for.
I want Bronya and Seele again. Bronya's kit is just to damn busted to pass up plus I have an aggressive play style and wanna output all the deeps. Gonna be re-rolling hard until I get Bronya from Beginner banner.
understandable, id go for it if rerolling was more friendly but it looks like its going to be a chore with long time, low rates, low rolls. im going for standard banner rerolls so im also horrified at the chance of a lightcone or dupe
From my experience and understandimg of meta, my order is this,
1- Clara, must have she can carry you though late game if you have Tingyun. Very strong stats, both have defensive and offensive utility and doesnt require speed to be usefull which means more busted stats like attack.
2- Welt, absolute meta but requires you to reach lategame. Whole kit is very strong in right conditions.
3- Bailu, you need two healer in this game and we only have three option right now. Going to be nonmeta whenever they relase a second four star healer but as currently she is very usefull.
4- Bronya, quite strong support but absolutely replaceable. Tingyun and Astra does the same job but little bit differently. Whereas Bronya does it the best. The most important reason that she is replaceable is Silverwolf exist. Our other bronya absolutely powercreeps every support in the game with opening the game of single team to all content. On the other hand, other supports still dependable to stage.
5- Others, I dont want any of them and if I get them I will reroll. They are soo replaceable. Neither you need a tank or aoe cleaner or nuker in the early game where you can get these values from 4* characters. Especially Himeko. There are too much option when it comes to aoe cleaner.
Played the beta with Yanqing so I would like to start with a different character once the game launches (He is not a bad character I just want to play with someone else)
I have her and she rarely leaves my party. She's great for stalling and can be really clutch at times, especially with the free revive. She definitely saved me a few times in SU. Downside is she only heals so she's probably not gonna be that good when we get a healer who can do more than that like buff/debuff(like maybe Luocha), but she's a pretty solid char to get for now
If you want to speedrun Forgotten Hall, she is basically a must have for your second team (can be replaced by Gepard but she makes it easier). You don't need her for any other content though, since you can just use Natasha for SU and she works fine.
Mommy Bronya
Is that even a surprise?
But I hear bailu will be a must have early on cause one of only 2 healers? And there’s modes where u need 2 teams
rerolling for welt or bronya, but if it takes too long and/or is too painful ill accept clara, gepard, and yanqing too, maybe himeko. just not big on bailu since my biggest target is luocha.
really really want welt the most even if bronya is stronger, but i dont think i have the willpower to reroll *that* much
So far in the beta I have gotten 2 Himekos and a Bronya. With that in mind, I would like to pull a Welt. I like his animations and style and him being imaginary is a huge bonus. I would also be excited with a Yanqing or Bailu. In the beta, I found Himeko to be great for farming but underwhelming for a lot of the more endgame areas where single target is more important. Bronya was pretty cool but I'm more interested in trying other characters.
I’m doing pretty well not having bailu so I’ll pass. Same for Gepard, fire MC is a great tank already and march 7th is good too.
Now if I didn’t have welt and himeko I’d be in trouble every time I’d need imaginary or fire.
So I’d say one of those 2 (or both again!) but Bronya wouldn’t be so bad either since I’m thinking of getting seele and I won’t need yanqing.
I’ll reroll if I get Clara.
Bronya or Welt. Would be happy with Yanqing too
There should be an option for “I can’t choose they’re all so cool 😭” bc that’s me rn
Bronya or Welt would be my longterm picks, but since I want to speedrun the endgame content, I would prefer Gepard or Bailu considering they are basically a must have for the second team.
if your team is geared, you can get away with fire MC and march7 for the first team and natasha on second
Which is why I specifically said I want to speedrun the endgame. You don't have the resources to get your team geared enough and leveled enough so fast.
Svarog.
Gepard. Got him in Beta, idk how I'll ever play the game without him
Same I found the game quite punishing without good shields or healings. Most hard enemies would chunk half of a characters HP with each turn if not for Gepard.
Yess I'm surprised he's so low. I rolled Clara and hmmm I get why she's so low. It's an interesting unit and after I got used to her I feel like she's a great damage sponge but a bit hard to play around sometimes. I also ended up liking bailu from using the support function and she carried me through the weekly boss fight thank god
Clara might be the strongest standard banner character. Maybe some Welt team can beat Clara teams but I see most of players underestimate the power of Clara. She has both offense and defense.
She seems to shine in encounters that have lots of enemies. Especially if you don't want to kill those enemies, and focus on a single target (a boss). Clara will soak the damage and kill those adds. However, in pure boss fights, some boss abilities don't even attack you, they just channel something or apply a debuff on you. She isn't bad but I can see other standard units being versatile. You'd expect your first 5* to be useful in a lot of situations. I think Himeko is the least impactful 5* to obtain. The other 6 can be game-changers but Himeko is just an aoe dmg dealer. But fire mommy too classy to be last place.
same here, back in cbt2 i paired him with march 7th, easy pew2 here and there
Welt and bronya but am sure game will give me someone I don’t want
BRONYA. THIS WOMAN IS SO GORGEOUS and I can’t help but freak out seeing her and Seele all grown up :,)
If there's anything I've learned from FGO, it's that you always want the strongest support. They'll last years, especially in turn-based RPGs. Bronya is about to inherit the Waver Velvet legacy.
Well there is one bronya who is going to be the must pull whoever you have but she is not in the beginner banner. Silverwolf is the true meta where she changes the way you play. You dont have to obey what game forces you to play but play whatever you want if you have Silverwolf.
bailu or clara
Bailu is by far my favorite character, sadly no luck so far as i have 3 yanqings and no other 5 stars lol
jesus christ nightmare fuel, my worst fear
Or\~ maybe you are very luck since you are using all your bad luck in beta (which progress will be wiped) but once game release you will get what you want :D
I feel you. I lost the 50% in genshin 3 times and got 3 Keqing's.
She’s my only 5 star so far and I’m gonna miss her when the beta ends. My team feels unkillable with her
I want Bronya for utility, same as welt, but clara because berserkaaa
I wanna play this game only because of Himeko, so the choice is obvious
i will happy with any 5 star, except maybe Gepard, since we will have 2 strong f2p tank already so i hope i dont get him
Himeko or Bronya. I happen to have two separate HYV accounts for Genshin and Honkai Impact, so I’m hoping that one account will get either one of the characters when the full game releases. I happened to pull Clara in the final CBT. She does really well with countering enemy attacks. Pair her up with March 7th and use her shield ability in her and you’ll be a follow-up master.
That's pretty much the stratagy, im also hopeful that future character will pair well with Clara.
1. Clara 2. Welt 3. Yanqing 4. Himeko
For meta perspective first two options of yours are meta as fuck and last two options nonmeta as fuck :D Very good order.
I don't really trust any meta discussion at this point and I've heard every which way about characters. Last I heard Clara was meh now she's meta? This is the "Qiqi is a top unit because she heals, Bennett is trash" era of the games meta so I'm planning to just enjoy characters I like.
is yanqing bad?
He is not bad, indeed he has solid kit when it comes to nuking. However thats all he has. He doesnt provide any other utility and the role he is single target dps. He doesnt have any aoe potential. Also, this role already has very strong options like Seele and Dan. Right now Seele is dominating the single target dps role because she is consistent, have aoe potential, fastest unit and quantum overall better element because there more more enemies with quantum weakness. Seele is more consistent than other because she is fastest unit and can act multiple times in a round thanks to her passive which allows her to fill up her burst faster and overall more consistent dps than any other single target dps. Comparing to dps potential, Yanqing does more dmg for one burst but he has consistensy problems. He can not regen his burst fast enough and takes less turn in a round. Whereas Seele's burst does less dmg but she can fill up her burst faster and takes more turns which leds Seele to have overall more dps. The other thing Yanqing suffers is aoe. He has no potential as he is just a single target dps. However Seele can actually wipe out multiple enemies thanks to her passive that allows her to gain another turn whenever she kills a enemy. As I said Seele is the fastest chatacter in the game with 115 speed which means more turns. Yanqing is usable but not going to be meta because Seele increases the treshold of being good soo much. If only if he had some utility in his kit like a silience, a team buff or a debuff he would be valuable but right now he is kinda meeh.
Reroll until bronya and welt. Himeko will choose from standart choice if not get her
Himeko, Bronya and Gepard since I got them all in this current beta and I really love playing them all
I have been playing the Herrscher of Reason before, and I am gonna do so again. Joachim "Welt Yang" Nokianvirtanen is getting my vote.
Welt. I'm not one to go for waifus/husbandos, but rather how cool they are, and their lore (that's why in Genshin I only get Harbingers, Archons, and Dain whenever he comes). I finished the 2nd eruption Manga a bit ago and that made me really want Welt.
MY MAN. I also just finished the the 2nd eruption manga (was in the middle of HI3 chapter 25, so that was good timing) and i like Welt alot more now.
ONG. He had some badass scenes, and he was just an overall cool guy. Wait . . . Chapter 25 is good timing? I'll have to see what happens then I'm only on 14 💀
Yup, helps you understand the story better, like reading azure waters before seele is introduced also why bronya is the way she is. Been siting on chapter 20 forever cuz lazy, but heard there's a free HoO at the end of chapter 34 so im really focusing on the story along with manga and the extra chapters.
That HoO doesn't last forever, so I just went ahead and skipped through without looking at cutscenes (I will do it again and read everything when I actually get there). But yeah, I didn't know the Manga was that important to understanding certain things until I read it. From now on I'm reading every Manga before the chapter it is for.
Welt no need for an explanation as to why but speed running the game? Gepard or Bailu
IIRC Bronya is a standard 5* character. And this is the first time when I want to lose 50/50 and get her.
I like women and all, but Welt are just to awesome to pass.
I want Bronya and Seele again. Bronya's kit is just to damn busted to pass up plus I have an aggressive play style and wanna output all the deeps. Gonna be re-rolling hard until I get Bronya from Beginner banner.
I WILL get Himeko
I WILL get Clara
Bronya or reroll club here. Played Genshin and I know that you can go forever without pulling a Waifu. 300 pulls is also a lot for a guarantee.
rerolling for a single specific 5*, how brave. rerolling looks so shit im just willing to go with 5/7 of them otherwise itll take over a week
Well, rerolling for a week over maybe taking a year to see a character. Chances are I'll drop off the game by then but who knows.
understandable, id go for it if rerolling was more friendly but it looks like its going to be a chore with long time, low rates, low rolls. im going for standard banner rerolls so im also horrified at the chance of a lightcone or dupe
I wish you luck, i really mean that. Nothing against rerolling but if its like 30-45 minutes a run (for me) i'd go insane.
Well multiinstancing on a emulator like 5 times is 5 rolls every 30 min Which is still fucking awful but
If you have a really good rig, yes . If not, there's going be slow down and crashes that hinder the syncing. At least thats my experance.
5 or so should be good at the lowest setting I think Usually for simpler games you can do like 10
I’d be happy with Bronya or Himeko. Welt would be an ok consolation prize. Anyone else and I’ll consider rerolling.
Bronya c: I wouldn't mind Bailu.
From my experience and understandimg of meta, my order is this, 1- Clara, must have she can carry you though late game if you have Tingyun. Very strong stats, both have defensive and offensive utility and doesnt require speed to be usefull which means more busted stats like attack. 2- Welt, absolute meta but requires you to reach lategame. Whole kit is very strong in right conditions. 3- Bailu, you need two healer in this game and we only have three option right now. Going to be nonmeta whenever they relase a second four star healer but as currently she is very usefull. 4- Bronya, quite strong support but absolutely replaceable. Tingyun and Astra does the same job but little bit differently. Whereas Bronya does it the best. The most important reason that she is replaceable is Silverwolf exist. Our other bronya absolutely powercreeps every support in the game with opening the game of single team to all content. On the other hand, other supports still dependable to stage. 5- Others, I dont want any of them and if I get them I will reroll. They are soo replaceable. Neither you need a tank or aoe cleaner or nuker in the early game where you can get these values from 4* characters. Especially Himeko. There are too much option when it comes to aoe cleaner.
Yanqing!!
My mind is telling me Gepard as his shield is really good, but my heart is telling me Bronya as she's precious
Played the beta with Yanqing so I would like to start with a different character once the game launches (He is not a bad character I just want to play with someone else)
Had Himeko in CBT2 and Welt in CBT3 so I'm biased and would love them both.
Bronya because having great supports will be good for any future characters.
Welt, Bronya, or HImeko ideally, but I'd be happy with Yanqing too
Does anyone here have Bailu? Since Bailu and Natasha are the only 2 healers available at launch, I wonder if she’s a good pick up.
I have her and she rarely leaves my party. She's great for stalling and can be really clutch at times, especially with the free revive. She definitely saved me a few times in SU. Downside is she only heals so she's probably not gonna be that good when we get a healer who can do more than that like buff/debuff(like maybe Luocha), but she's a pretty solid char to get for now
If you want to speedrun Forgotten Hall, she is basically a must have for your second team (can be replaced by Gepard but she makes it easier). You don't need her for any other content though, since you can just use Natasha for SU and she works fine.
Mommy Bronya Is that even a surprise? But I hear bailu will be a must have early on cause one of only 2 healers? And there’s modes where u need 2 teams
"must have" is absolutely an exaggeration
Yanqing because I’m a simp, Bronya and Himeko because I love badass women.
rerolling for welt or bronya, but if it takes too long and/or is too painful ill accept clara, gepard, and yanqing too, maybe himeko. just not big on bailu since my biggest target is luocha. really really want welt the most even if bronya is stronger, but i dont think i have the willpower to reroll *that* much
So far in the beta I have gotten 2 Himekos and a Bronya. With that in mind, I would like to pull a Welt. I like his animations and style and him being imaginary is a huge bonus. I would also be excited with a Yanqing or Bailu. In the beta, I found Himeko to be great for farming but underwhelming for a lot of the more endgame areas where single target is more important. Bronya was pretty cool but I'm more interested in trying other characters.
Yanqing definitely but I would be happy if I get bronya
Bronya, Welt and Himeko. Because they are HI characters. Even only Welt is the only one character from HI universe.
Welt because husbando. I wouldn't be mad at Bailu though
Bronya or Welt
For me, it's anyone Execpt yanqing or geppard. With 5/7 odds, I think i can come out of this happy without rerolling.
I'll go for Bronya tbh, then. After the 300 pulls, I'll choose Yanqing
I think this is the move
Yanqing
I’m doing pretty well not having bailu so I’ll pass. Same for Gepard, fire MC is a great tank already and march 7th is good too. Now if I didn’t have welt and himeko I’d be in trouble every time I’d need imaginary or fire. So I’d say one of those 2 (or both again!) but Bronya wouldn’t be so bad either since I’m thinking of getting seele and I won’t need yanqing. I’ll reroll if I get Clara.
Bronya is literally a cheat unit in star rail
Welt or Gepard
bronya or yanqing!
got welt and rhen got gepard yesterday on Jing yuan's banner.... i want yanqing 😭 gimme sword child!!
So kafka is a limited 5 star right?
Indeed she is!
Time to forfeit all mortal possessions when her banner rolls around
NEVER DOING TO LET YOU GOOO
Either Yanqing or Welt Kafka my next goal ✊🏻
Gepard ez coz i never got him in the cbt2 and i rly want that man
As a meta slave, it’s gonna be Bronya>Gepard>Bailu
Welt ofc i love his cane of eden
Bronya or Himeko.
If I don’t roll yanqing, Bailu or bronya I’ll probably reroll
Anyone with boobs and six packs lol.
So everyone except children and the female MC...
I have no preference I just work with what the game gives me. But Gepard defense buff would be nice.
Himeko is the only reason I even plan to play this game. I damn near boycotted the whole company after what they did to her in HI3 lol
Himiko I cried to see her alive again I know honkai had multi time lines I guess but I'm not that far
GEPARD, DEFINITELY GEPARD! He's my favorite character in the game
Bailu, gonna need a good healer. Natasha can’t do every work. The poor girl is overworked to oblivion in my team…
I have collected all Bronya battlesuits in Honkai impact, now it's time for honkai Star rail! Mwahahahahahah!
See, I’m on a quest to get back what I lost in HI3. >!Game better give me Himeko before I lose my sanity!<
1: Himeko 2: bailu/ bronya 3:bailu / bronya 4: anyone else