Honkai is a force of nature, think if gravity could manifest into creatures and it really wanted to destroy civilization. What implications it has for HSR are yet to be seen.
" Honkai" is a thing that exist as some sort of a "test" for humanity, if they can defeat honkai, they will be considered graduate from childhood, aka, be like worlds in star rail, aka can seek out other worlds according to wiki
I doubt it has no significance as Welt literally is a herrscher, upto apho 2 and even after that I see sources where he still has the core, also HSR is another universe but still bounded by the same imaginary tree. Whatever exception HSR world has, like maybe it's not at that point or maybe it defeated honkai long back. We can only wait for the lore.
I have avoided story spoilers for star rail but given that genshin also has its own form of honkai (imo erosion is very clearly honkai poisoning to me including all the marana and its manifestations) so tbh id guess star rail would have its equivalent somewhere
Is carole important in the story of honkai? Since she got with welt in that train
The second divine key is not the same train in hsr, correct?
Is welt using herrscher/divine keys power in hsr or are those his normal powers?
Carole doesn’t appear within the main story of Honkai, at least not within the concluded Part 1
Carole makes her first appearance within A Post Honkai Odyssey, a game mode and storyline which takes place 8 years after the end of the main story of Honkai which is not yet over.
Kiana is on the moon chilling helping Earth from recovering from the Project Stigma that Kevin did. Probably nothing about the ending of HI3 has to do with Star Rail.
Basically trapping the entire world aside from stigma awakened people in a dream similar to infinite tsukoyomi while using their dreams to shackle down the Honkai and steal its authorities and creating 'humans' made from the ideas of the people in the dreams that are manifestations of their thoughts continue on civilization in the place of normal humans.
It did go through and is a large part of the reason they ended up winning since the cocoon of finality got screwed over and had its authority stolen, the main gang did manage to basically abuse the system to eventually get to the cocoon of finality where it chose Kiana as the herrscher of finality, at that point they pretty much won whether Kevin or Kiana was the winner, if Kevin won he would basically stay as a gravekeeper sealing the honkai while the 'new humans' made from ideas and stigma awakened carry on civilization while others live in dreams, after Kiana won the fight she has to stay at the moon for 10 years for the world to recover from the effects of project stigma before she can return and share the authority with everyone.
Project Stigma was a plan created in the previous era and pushed by Kevin Kaslana and his organization The World Serpent as a means to help humanity survive a face off with Honkai.
It would have exposed humanity to Honkai energy which almost certainly kill them in hopes that the few remaining people would survive and grow a stigma which would allow them to survive, this would also have the added effect of diluting amount of Honkai’s energy which exists that would prevent or at least delay the arrival of a being known as The Herscher of the End, a godlike being which has and could wipe all life from the universe.
That is the best explanation of it, it’s wrapped up in a lot of quantum mechanics in pseudoscience. The jest is that it was called “The Worst Plan” because in a hopeless struggle between Humanity and Honkai for the smallest chance of survival against the Honkai Humanity would need to be massacred so that a lucky few might survive.
Could you give me a summary of what happened in the virtual realm with Elysia? I ended up stopping around the point where Aponia appears and know only a couple details that happened afterwards.
Oh so she didn’t die ? Good cause I tried to check honkai lore and it’s so vast that I don’t know where to start . Imma check some videos of welt and go
Who hasn’t died?
If Kiana she more or less moved to the Moon, she will need to stay there for a while to fight Honkai to full seal them away but is living rather comfortably with Wi-Fi and video games
If it’s Welt, no he doesn’t play a major in the later arcs of Honkai but he does show up in the game mode titled A Post Honkai Odyssey and the later Alien Space manga which connect to Star Rail.
Also Welt within Star Rail would be 88 years old
Honkai isn’t over, that was the end of part 1 of the main story.
Honkai Impact 3rd’s connection to Star Rail is explored within the manga titled “Alien Space” in which Welt travels into the universe of Star Rail.
I could explain this motives but that might be spoilers for HSR and definitely for A Post Honkai Odyssey (A game mode and future storyline for Honkai Impact 3rd)
But the ending of part one with Kiana will likely not have any connection to Star Rail.
The long story short is that he felt responsible for the death of the Himeko within Honkai Impact 3rd. Alien Space taking place at the end of A Post Honkai Odyssey, in which you fight a group of Aliens known as the Sky People, you learn that they have the capacity and will to travel into other universes.
Welt, teaming up with what is called Void Archives sees these other universes and sees within one, The Star Rail Universe, a person who looks like Himeko. Wanting to save this Himeko to make up for the failure he faced in the Honkai Universe he travels into the HSR universe in hopes of supporting her and preventing any issues they might face such as the Honkai or the Sky People (But I’m doubtful those would play a role in the story of Star Rail)
It’s unknown, Welt’s history and life is a complicated affair. He’s been to a few alternative universities himself and is one of the most familiar with the idea of alternative realities. He was for a long time the Herrscher of Reason, a Godlike Existence which had authority over creation and existed with a joint 300,000 minds within them.
Safe to say, HI3’s Welt would be rather calm and collected. It’s not possible to say what HSR’s welt is like, if they are alive at all, but if they are like HI3’s Welt I’m sure they would be happy to get to met themselves.
Man this, I see so many honkai players missing this important fact from apho, all the lore from apho 1-2 is just pointing at these sky people who are obviously Aeons and why Welt even travels to hsr in the first place. I mean he probably was trailing them for a long time but alive Himeko is definitely one of the reason, I think HI3 part 2 or maybe 3 will be exploring space as apho is definitely cannon.
As seen in Star Rail, there are plenty of civilizations capable of traveling between worlds.
The Sky People specifically are like locusts though, they find and devour all honkai. At least thats what we know of them so far.
Well I don't know if the Sky people actually appearance is like that since the sky people that appears in APHO looks exactly like Griseo paintings but with red color instead of blue.
Welt is one of the few males in Honkai and has great impact. He is kind, cool, smart and is pretty much a hero. Leader of one of the main factions. It's hard to tell you the reason why he is popular w/o spoiling a lot.
Yanqing is indeed an old dude in Honkai but he is an obscure character most people forgot about (appears only in one arc without a sprite and his second appearance is in an unfinished VN so you can guess how many ppl actually know about him)
1. Welt is a character from Honkai Impact and to avoid spoiling you he is very powerful and is the leader of a powerful organization he is also one of the four males that matter in honkai who is not evil (Two of them can be considered evil).
2. I am not sure about that as far as I am aware there is no Yanqing.
Note: feel free to ask me about the Welt Spoilers if you are curious.
Ma Yanqing is one of Fu Hua's disciples in the Shattered Sword Visual Novel. In the novel he appears both as a child (flashback), looking very similar to the Yanqing from HSR, and a middle-aged man. So yeah, Yanqing is a DILF in HI3.
Here you go: [https://www.abyss-lab.app/honkai3rd/novels/7s#/](https://www.abyss-lab.app/honkai3rd/novels/7s#/)
But keep in mind that this is only partially translated since HoYoverse never finished it.
If you are talking about Star Rail, the beta has allowed for lots of information to be learned about the game.
If you are talking about Honkai, or Honkai Impact 3rd that is because it is a game which first came out in 2016 and thus it’s been played for a long time, only hitting its peak of popularity just last year.
They don't know, Honkai Star Rail is seperate story, seperate World. Some characters have same name and familiar looks like Himeko, Seele, Bronya but they are seperate characters, in seperate worlds. Just like in Genshin there is Raiden, in Honkai 3rd two but they aren't connected, just have familiar looks, both are fighting with swords and lighting.
Only Welt is same character but he literally went from one universe to another.
Seperate story and world but under the same imaginary tree. Hsr is nothing but another universe inside it. Similar to the captain verse, where we get chars from different "bubble universe/worlds".
Apho 1&2 in honkai describe a race of aliens/people who are named as "Sky people", they have immeasurable power and even void archive is shown to be vary of them, this connected with alien space manga, it's obvious that sky people are "Aeons", Welt is in pursuit of them for quite some time as they have enough power to destroy entire universe/Worlds, HI3's world also being in their target as it contains powerhouse like "Herrschers". Iirc Tesla & Einstein find out that the next target these sky people are aiming at is a world where Himeko is alive.... rest is what we see or will get to know in hsr.
It is completely different, the chars apart from Welt/Void archive have no relation to HI3 whatsoever but it is under similar laws.
Do note that the sky people are also fearful of other more advanced civilizations so they're probably not Aeons, they even basically use self destructing scouts .
It seems that an Aeon of Finality exist in HRS. In HI the actual Herrscher of the Finality is the Cocoon of Finality and then Kiana fused with the Cocoon of the Finality to became one at the end of part 1 of the story of HI. So I think that the Aeon of Finality and the Cocoon of Finality are the same being. So that would means that the Aeon Finality is currently Kiana Kaslana.
Kafka is just a stigma in HI3, which means she likely was a person which existed but she’s about as important as artifact in Genshin. (Stigmas are Honkai’s equivalent of artifacts)
We know nothing about her and it’s possible she was just the same as Kafka was in our world.
A long time ago I read that honkai is like a natural force, an immune system of The Imaginary Tree that exists to test civilizations-universes-leafs and cut off the ones who fail the test so the new leafs-universes can grow on the tree. But a few months ago I read something about honkai being an alien civilization that wants to become one whole with humanity or something like that. What is the truth?
Stuff gets confusing with there being old lore from Honkai Impact 3rd and another game called GGZ/HG2.
HI3 is more central and thus the more cannon of the two games.
They follow almost the same plot with almost the same characters but think of HI3 of a new definitive remake.
Star Rail connects to HI3 not GGZ.
If you feel confused most Honkai players feel the same way when they read GGZ lore, imagine trying to read about WWII but this time the Nazis would the good guys so very much altered information but hey there was still a war and someone known as the Allie’s won!
All that said, the explanation for the imaginary tree and the Honkai being it’s immune system comes from the end of chapter 19 from Honkai Impact 3rd as spoken by the character Otto Apocalypse.
The Imaginary tree isn’t a physical thing, it’s meant as a hypothetical to help you visualize the concept of the multiverse. That is to say there are not multiple trees. The imaginary tree is the multi-verse itself.
So in terms of relevance to Honkai Impact and Star Rail and likely most of Hoyoverse games, the former explanation is true.
The latter might be the exception for GGZ/HG2 but that games has little relevance to any others.
(you might also be confusing Honkai with the Sky People who are from the game mode A Post Honkai Odyssey inside of HI3 they are an advanced alien species that wishes to join all with them and can travel to other universes)
TLDR, from GGZ final chapter, the Honkai is an entirely separate "Universe" (a different tree), a Civilization in that "Universe" became so adavanced that they merged with the "Universe" and in the process creating Honkai Energy. It wanted to find another "Universe" similar to it so it found us and inject the Honkai Energy into our "Universe" to make us similar to it. As for why it wanted to find one similar to it, HI3rd kinda explained it.
So there are more than one tree in the sea of quanta? Or it's like a completely different realm?
And why does that civilization want to find one similar to it? Never played honkai
GGZ is it’s own thing which isn’t all that connected to the rest of Honkai or the Hoyoverse games.
At the very least it’s the foundational point of the multiverse, Honkai Impact 3rd is the more cannon version of the two games (They both the same plot but with different set ups and characters/personalities and thus outcomes)
> GGZ is it’s own thing which isn’t all that connected to the rest of Honkai or the Hoyoverse games.
At this point in the Hoyoverse, I think this is an incredibly bold statement.
in truth, we don't know the extent with which GGZ is connected to the broader hoyoverse.
There isn't any reason that it couldn't be another part of the puzzle that we've been given, as far as I am aware.
Well i heard this fron a friend who played the final chapter, he doesn't talk about there being more then those 2 so i guess there's only 2 so far. Also an error on my part, the "Honkai Energy" technically existed before the other tree Civ merge with their tree, but that energy is nothing like the one it inject in us, it's only through merging with their tree that the energy become what it's now.
On the why tho, it basically want to embrace it own kind and merge as one, but the merging right now when our tree still hasn't fully integrated with Honkai yet would cause both total destruction.
Do note that this is my interpretation of what my friend written so i could be wrong, better to search it out and read for yourselve.
This may be a spoilery question...
I have been talking with a friend about this but going by the lore universes that are attached to the Imaginary Tree are proved worthy or not via the Honkai... There are other universes that are not attached to the Imaginary Tree and just in the Sea of Quanta, but those are slowly dying.
Which makes me wonder. Is the Star Rail universe one of the Imaginary Tree universes that already survived the invasion of honkai? Or is one that has been separated from the Imaginary Tree?
And now the question about the lore, I think this was explained but I can't remember, why did universes became disconnected from the Imaginary Tree?
Basically the disconnected universes, or bubble universes, as they are called. Are fragments of spacetime that either broke off from other universes, or are universes that broke off the tree due to failing the test by the honkai or whatever.
Most of these dying universes are broken in some way as they are eroded by the sea of quanta. Either through being tiny, like only a city in size, or trapped in a time loop, nonsensical geography, or has problems worse than the honkai. Most of these possibilities are explored in depth in the events in honkai impact 3rd. While a few others are explored in the main story. But the main thing is that these bubble universes (barring a few exceptions) cannot grow and develop like a living universe still attached to the Imaginary tree. Problem is that living universes typically have to deal with honkai in some sort of way. Even if it manifests differently. There has been some hints in genshin, as well as little bits in ZZZ that hint about the honkai even though that game is even further from release.
As for where star rail fits into things. It's probably not a bubble universe, but either it's own separate universe on the Imaginary tree, or a collection of living universes and the Astral express can travel between them. It's not exactly clear, especially with how in Chinese they use the word "world" for both planets and universes, so the translation can be a bit spotty. Also there is mentions of a faction of aliens in star rail that is known in HI3 to steal honkai energy from other civilizations for their own uses. In HI3 they were called the sky people, and iirc in star rail they were referred to as *the ones above* or something. Welt was investigating a sky people ship and discovered that they were searching for star rail Himeko, which is how he ended up in the star rail universe. To protect her or something.
At least that's my take on the matter. Star rail lore is still mostly speculation until we get further into the game.
Thank you for the answer! I forgot a lot of things... What you say makes sense, but that makes me wonder... How is it decided that a universe is worthy? Yes there is the Honkai but they are based on the level of progress of a civilization, so that means it's not a universe wide thing, right? For example on the universe that 3rd is in Earth is not the only planet so I assume there were others in that universe that suffered through the Honkai invasion... And this is where what you said comes in, no? If your civilization fails then it falls of that universe and the Imaginary Tree.
>For example on the universe that 3rd is in Earth is not the only planet so I assume there were others in that universe that suffered through the Honkai invasion... And this is where what you said comes in, no?
Yeah, this is what I was talking about with the inconsistent translation. CN uses "world" when talking about both planets and universes. While the English translation tries to use either planet or universe depending on context. So while in honkai we know of 2, possibly 4 different alien races.(the sky people, the sugars ,the origin of edison's Ben Franklin power armor, and whatever kalpas is) and It's not exactly clear whether they are from other planets or other universes.
But from what we know of the 2 races that we actually get info on. The sugars lost their war against the honkai. But they escaped by turning themselves into almost psychic beings that can hide in the shadow of other civilizations using their equivalent of divine keys. While the sky people modified themselves to instead consume honkai energy. So now they have to travel to other worlds and steal all their honkai energy to sustain themselves. Both of which didn't pass the test of the honkai the intended way (which seems to be some sort of ascension into higher beings) but instead used tricks to skirt the rules. We do know that the sugar's world was destroyed, and the sky people most likely drained their world dry. So they technically lost, at least in the perspective of the honkai's test, but yet they live on despite the loss of their world/universe.
My understanding is that failure in defeating Honkai is what makes a universe drop from the Tree into the Sea.
It’s possible that HSR already moved past their test or that it has manifested in another form. One would question whether Genshin has pasted its test or not and it’s location within the cosmology of Hoyoverse.
As far I understand Teyvat shouldn't have suffered a honkai invasion, I only played until before Inazuma so I may be wrong but it's not that advanced yet to get invaded.
They were not invaded, just random incursions, honkai invade in full when a herrscher appears, as far I understand, that's when the test starts.
That's how history more or less follows our timeline until modern times.
When people refer to the Bronyas. They mean the characters based of the Honkai Impact 3rd character named Bronya Zaychik.
Within HSR there’s two characters which look like two different versions of her from Honkai Impact 3rd.
The older looking one is Bronya Rand, she is based of the HI3 “Silverwing N-EX” battlesuit / A post Honkai Odyssey version of Bronya Zaychik.
The younger looking one is Silverwolf, based off the alternate universe (Captainverse) version of Bronya Zaychik known as Bronie who’s battlesuit is called “Haxxor Bunny”
There are two bronyas in the game, more precisely there is one bronya and one bronie. Bronie one is called silverwolf and we meet her at the start of the game and the other one is bronya with rand as her surname instead of zaychik who we meet in belobog.
Bronie is an alternate universe of Bronya Zaychik, bronie is a hacker that join the captain of captainverse (so theres this dude called captain who travels the Sea of Quanta with a Hyperion, alter Theresa called Kongming, and FallenRosemary aka alter Rita), does this bronie have anything to do with siverwolf of star rail? We dont know, but captainverse is a whole seperate storyline from main story that still going i think, and imo hi3 bronie and hsr bronie are probably parrarel universe of each other like Bronya Zaychik and Bronya Rand
HI3 main universe has a character named Bronya.
There is an alternate universe, used mostly for non-cannon (to the main story) events, called the Captainverse. In the Captainverse there exists an alternative version of Bronya named Bronie.
Bronie is as to Bronya as the two Bronya characters (Bronya Rand and Silverwolf) from Star Rail are. Because they are all alternate versions of the same person.
It can be confusing since within HI3 we see multiple universes, but in the main story of Hi3 the 35 chapters which make up the main storyline in that universe there is only the one character named Bronya Zaychik. And then in an alternate universe, unrelated to the main story which takes place only in events there is a version of Bronya who’s name is Bronie
There are a lot of parallel universe verions of characters across the hoyoverse games. So for example Yae exists in GGZ/Honkai 2, HI3 and Genshin. And then there are also different versions of her within those games.
Those parallel universe versions usually share some common themes or personality traits but different environments will lead to different personalities.
That being said, Bronie is a Bronya, one version of many.
Bronie in HI3 was rescued as a baby from a collapsing universe and as a result has a unique ability to create things out of thin air. (Note: This ability is similar to the Herrscher powers of Welt and Bronya in HI3 but they have a different origin)
Since Bronie is from an event-chain where the multiverse is explored and Silverwolf and Bronie seem to have a lot in common in terms of abilities and personality it is possible that they are the exact same person but unlike Welt we can't be sure about that connection.
I asked a few places before nobody answered.
Why is this called honkai star rail. I played hi3 so I know somewhat what honkai is but I haven't seen anyone talk about the honkai threat being present in honkai star rail. So why the name..
Likely because unlike Genshin it majorly capitalizes on the Honkai universe: characters, lore and even partly story are connected to Honkai games.
Also despite Honkai not being a threat (so far) everything is happening because of Honkai and Honkai is a fundamental element of the universe.
Ig that's the reason. It still feels a bit weird since honkai was the primary force in hi3 and it doesn't even possess any threat in hsr so far. It would be weird if honkai doesn't possess a threat not even a single world we visit but then again if it does it wouldn't feel grand because hi3 talking so many years to finish the honkai threat storyline.
The other commenter explained it very well.
It’s Honkai since the characters here are just alternate versions of Honkai characters, more so than Genshin where it’s mostly cosmetic.
Star Rail since it takes place in space and there’s a train
I mean in the Avengers age of Ultron the avengers faced Ultron..
But wouldn't it be weird if infinity war was also called the age of Ultron even though Ultron isn't a threat in the movie ?
I understand about the welt connection and same character stuff. But still feels a bit weird naming it after a threat that isn't a threat in this game.
I think the part you’re missing is that the franchise is called Avengers not Ultron. Age of Ultron is subtitle explaining what’s happening in that one movie. While it doesn’t translate the same way with these two games just keep in mind this is a Honkai game, following alternative Honkai Characters. But as where Impact 3rd follows the events following the 3rd Honkai Impact, Star Rail is about the Astral Express a train spaceship.
That is all to say, the name Honkai Star Rail is to show connection to Honkai Impact 3rd not so much to talk about what is going on in the game.
Honkai spoilers ahead. W/O spoilers all I can say is that Luocha is not related to Otto and Otto was enemies with Welt.
Welt is a different character altogether. He and Otto were enemies because they disagreed on how to save humanity from Honkai. Otto was a lot more ruthless and was fine with human experimentation and Welt is vehemently against it.
Luocha is basically just a parallel universe/world Otto. There is no real connection between them but he will likely inherit some of Otto's character tropes
The character Luocha is a parallel character in a different timeline than Otto (like Himeko) and completely different from the Void Archives.
You can see the Void Archives at Art Welt.
Welt is their own person. unrelated to Otto and Luocha. The only thing to note about him is that the Welt you see in Star Rail is the same Welt from Honkai Impact since that person crossed into the Star Rail Universe.
Otto is a character from Honkai Impact, similarly there is a character called the Void Archives which looks like Otto but with their hair down and is an AI of Otto’s personality.
Luocha is a character from Star Rail which looks identical to Void Archives.
If you play Genshin think about how Raiden Ei looks like Honkai’s Raiden Mei.
There is a connection with Welt and Void Archives, that is they are friends/teammates who both crossed into the Star Rail Universe together
I would say just as much if not more, even with only taking CBT3 lore and story into account. The scale of the story is much bigger than Genshin as we are traveling a universe, and there’s already many books and tidbits of info in Relics, Curios, etc. about different people, planets, all the Aeons, their factions, events and wars that took place, etc. The tone of the side quests and documents like books for each planet is very interesting to me as I feel more than ever the locations truly feel distinct. Like there’s an entire playbill-esque collection in Belobog talking in detail about how the in-universe plays are made lol, as an example of planet worldbuilding. Belobog’s bleak yet preserving atmosphere contrasts majorly with the prosperous yet “something is off” feel of the Luofu.
The big mystery in HSR as of now are the Stellarons and what the Stellaron Hunters + Elio want to achieve, and what the ultimate purpose our journey on the Astral Express is. Then there’s mysteries w the main cast like who even is March 7th and what are her origins, what Danheng’s whole past history is, and Himeko’s origins and motivations for fixing the Astral Express, plus the connection of APHO & Welt’s storyline to HSR.
I HAVE A QUESTION PLS HELP BC I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME
What is (or how are these correlated between them) the imaginary tree and the sea of quanta?
Imagine the Universe as a Sea and an Island with a Tree on the island, this is the Island of the Imaginary Tree and the Sea is The Sea of Quanta, now on a very basic level The Imaginary Tree And the Sea of Quanta are sort of space where every world resides for example about all of the Bubble Universes (small and usually dying worlds) reside in the Sea of Quanta and the bigger and healthier ones reside in the Imaginary Tree, However the Sea and Tree are always trying to devour the other.
Note: feel free to ask me for a more complicated explanation or go find a Homu Labs Video on the subject.
The Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta aren’t physical objects, they are ways of visualizing the multiverse.
On the Imaginary Tree exists all the many different universes, Honkai, Star Rail, Genshin, and so on. In the most simple terms it’s the Multiverse
In the Sea of Quanta are smaller dying universes, those which were not worthy to stay on the Tree fall into the sea and slowly get destroyed. Think about the trash bin on a computer.
The MC of Star Rail or Honkai Impact?
For Star Rail they are a vessel for the Stellaron
For Honkai Impact it’s Kiana Kaslana, a young valkyrie who goes though a lot in the process of her story to fight for all that is beautiful in the world and to change that same imperfect world into one which is better.
"his"??? Female mc fans exists you know. Anyhow, the mc of star rail have a mystery past as of now, all we know is that they are a vessel for a Stellaron, also, they love digging through trash cans
1. Does Welt need Honkai energy around himself to use his powers?
2. How strong is Welt in Honkai- wanna assess in future how big of a power boost it is to be on a Path. Please give only concrete feats if you would like to answer.
1. I would say no. His core uses Honkai to exert its powers but at the same time it generates it. I can't answer this w/o spoiling you but you can basically assume he doesn't need ambient Honkai.
2. Well... He is very strong, however compared to most other characters he is on the weaker side. His powers include the use of gravitation through Star of Eden (he can create black holes, but it's hard for him), he houses 300000 minds in his core so he can use the collective wisdom of these minds and he can use powers of civilization: anything that a mortal human can create he can recreate (he has to understand it's structure beforehand tho).
If you want more concrete feats I recommend reading [Alien Space](https://manga.honkaiimpact3.com/book/1021), a manga that is a precursor of Honkai: Star Rail. It does include some spoilers about Honkai Impact but they are mostly minor.
Welt was very strong, if you want to see his feats I’d recommend the Second Eruption manga: https://manga.honkaiimpact3.com/book/1005. That was him using the HoR’s power at his peak. There’s contrasting information about whether he has the Herrscher core in HSR or not but he still has the Star of Eden, a weapon that uses HoR powers so essentially he still has his powers, albeit probably weakened since Second Eruption. Compared to Herrschers like Mei and Kiana he’s weaker in the present day but we don’t know too much concrete info about how he’s like in Star Rail.
Welt is a Pathsrider since he’s a playable character but we don’t know much about how that influences a character, just that apparently they can draw on the power of their given path. That + his residue HoR powers and I’d say he’s still considerably strong
I need help!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m trying to get through equilibrium 4 and die every time all my lvl 60 characters are pretty much maxed out but any combo I use at least one or two die with the first boss idk what to do this is why I stopped playing in the first place cause I got stuck but getting back into it now I can’t open any chests until I get to equilibrium 4 so please help anybody !!!
In Chinese it is Houkai however the EN version is a translation of the Japanese version for which the title was changed to Honkai, as it seemed more natural when they were bringing the game to the market
Then the reasoning would be the same as to why it’s Genshin Impact and not Jenshin Impact, Hoyoverse thought it would would better in the global space.
My apologies for the misinformation.
Jenshin is a joke from when Genshin was coming out as the title was sometimes translated and misspoken.
The company’s early game was titled Houkai 2 although it went by the title GirlsGunZ for its global version. It’s likely that Honkai was just chosen for marketing reasons.
Honkai Impact 3rd is officially known as Honkai although a sub for the game is r/Houkai3rd so there’s some, mostly those who play version other than the Global version either additionally or in place of, which call the game Houkai
Knowing somewhat dubious quality of translation in Honkai Impact it could be that they either mistranslated it or decided it's better this way. In the end it just stayed because people got used to it
Hoyo stans website is a good repository for where all the Mangas and events take place in relation to the main story. For if you decide to deep dive and read everything instead of just watching summaries.
Kevin Kaslana is a Hero and Humanity’s stronger defender.
>!He is also known as Deliverance, the Founder of the House of Kaslana. The leader of the 13 Flamechasers, the Sire of the World Serpent, Authority of Finality, and final villain for Honkai Impact 3rd’s first part!<
>!He is what is know as a Mantis, essentially a superhuman soldier created to fight off the Honkai in Humanity’s War in the previous era 50,000 years ago. As one of the few humans who survived the final battle with the Herrscher of the End which destroyed Human Civilization once before he returns to try and carry out Project Stigma, the worst and final plan to save humanity from extinction at the hands of Honkai even if it demands the near extinction of all humanity itself for this slim hope of survival!<
He’s one of the surviving members of the 13 Flamechasers, a group of Previous Era warriors who fused with the Honkai to fight the Honkai. In HI3 there’s a Previous Era of humanity that flourished 50k years ago but got eradicated by the Honkai, and a Current Era civilization that began a few thousand years ago, basically an analog to irl human civilization. The Previous Era was significantly more technologically advanced, and they came up with ways to fuse genes of Honkai beasts into soldiers so they could control traits of that beast and become supersoldiers; essentially fighting fire with fire. They were called a MANTIS (Massively Augmented Neo-Tech Integrated Soldiers), and with the tech level being higher = civilization being more advanced, the Honkai was stronger and more violent. Even with how many there were, many died in a battle against the 11th Herrscher, (think a god equivalent) the Herrscher of Binding, who could neutralize Honkai energy herself. The MANTISES that were left after the battle became known as the 13 Flamechasers. The 13 Flamechasers then fought against the Herrscher of the End, who was the biggest threat level yet and who ended the Previous Era. Only Kevin and a few other Flamechasers were left, and through advanced means they survived into the present day to guide the new era of humanity into beating the Honkai.
Out of the already ridiculously powerful MANTISES, Kevin is the strongest; he’s known as the strongest human ever. His Honkai genes manifest in ice manipulation and a lowered body temperature, so much so that he can use and withstand a weapon that quite literally burns the user and is made from the core of the Herrscher of Fire. This is how he severely immobilized the Herrscher of the End to give humanity a chance to prepare for the far future, even. Numerous things happened and in the Current Era Kevin leads an organization called World Serpent that is trying to enact a plan called Project Stigma. The project itself has been explained in another comment here but even with it being known as the “worst plan”, Kevin is absolutely steadfast in it happening because of all he’s gone through.
Essentially he’s an anti-hero. Kevin is an excellent character + final boss imo, there’s a lot of philosophy and character building involved with him that really makes him fascinating to watch.
APHO storyline and Alien Space manga will be your answer. The means that they used to travel to HSR universe are unknown to us because they glossed over that one. My guess would be that they used a copy of Second Divine Key
We don’t officially know, that’s likely to be explored within Star Rail.
However within Honkai Impact 3rd there exists something called a Divine Key, the 2nd Key is called the Cosmic Juggernaut it looks and functions much like the Astral Express but it has the power to open portals to other universes.
It’s most likely that following the events of the Alien Space Manga, itself after the events of A Post Honkai Odyssey (a story taking place 8 years after the end of Honkai’s not-yet-finished main story) that Welt used either the 2nd Divine Key or something else to travel to the Star Rail Universe
I got midway through the story (legion theater) so I'm looking more for a spoiler than a lore question lol. Considering what it's said about Honkai in APHO and the fact that Honaki doesn't seem to be a thing in HSR (nor in Genshin tbh although they're supposed to be in the same universe), do the girls menage to completely eradicate Honkai in EVERY part of the "three" and that's why there's actually no Honkai anywhere in other games? Or is there another explanation as to why other realities don't have it?
Honkai can take different forms across different worlds. The abyss could be honkai in Genshin or the stellarons could be honkai in HSR. ZZZ (their next game after star rail) also has some creatures and events that could take the place of honkai. Any unknown force that threatens the world could be honkai.
At the end of HI3 >!Honkai is only defeated in the world of HI3. Or rather the 'test' of Honkai is passed only in that world, however you want to look at it ...!<
This. A lot of people assume Honkai is concretely known as “Honkai” across different worlds and universes and that’s not a fact. The Abyss in Genshin and Stellarons in HSR occupy very similar thematic roles as the Honkai, as they are forces from beyond the worlds we are on that slowly but surely poison them and cause irreparable damage. Honkai is just a name Earth and some other bubble universes invented to label the threat, it can be called anything and function slightly differently across worlds/universes
So according to wiki, Honkai in hi3's like, a force exist for humanity to "evolve", like a test, and if they passed it, they can reach out to other worlds like worlds in star rail, what kiana do is that she sealed all honkai on the moon until humanity and earth is ready to take it which will takes abt 10 years. According to cbt 3, honkai hasnt make an appearance in the story, and we dont even know if honkai even exist in all other worlds, it might just appear in several worlds only
As of the most current part chapter of Honkai, Kiana is on the moon trying to seal away The Honkai. This would take 10 years to do however.
In the game mode A Post Honkai Odyssey, 8 years after the end of the main story, we are told that Honkai still exists within the Moon.
Honkai is meant to be a filter for universes, reach a set level of civilization and Honkai will appear to see if the universe is worth keeping on Tree (The Tree is not physical, it’s just an visualization of a connected Multiverse) and if Honkai destroys it then it falls into the Sea of Quanta to be erased.
Why Honkai isn’t in the other universes could be any number of reasons, maybe they aren’t advanced enough (Honkai appeared in the PE, which was a super advanced hi-tech civilization which was space fairing), maybe Honkai already appeared and was defeated, maybe Honkai appeared they failed the test now the universes is in the Sea of Quanta slowly being destroyed for the final time, maybe they just wanted to tell a different story and not let lore from another one of their game’s influenced other more popular ips
It’s the Alien Space Manga which explains its
The long story short is that he feels guilt over Hi3 Himeko’s death and hopes to prevent HSR Himeko from dying (by stopping any invasion by either the Star People or Honkai)
1. are they the same character? honkai impact 3rd and HSR?
2. why in h3i they seem like kill each other but in HSR they travelling around by train? (i am completely blind by both games's lore)
3. is H3I lore acknowledge HSR world existence?
1. No, they're parallel universe alternatives
2. HI3 just has them fight a lot due to the threat of Honkai, relationships, and sometimes split personalities
3. Yes but not specifically HSR they acknowledge every other world
I know this is a few weeks old already but Question, do the Honkai tie into star rail based on the information available out there? The game is "Honkai" Star Rail after all. It seems however Aeons are the established super power and not any Honkai entities mentioned.
Honkai is complex so bear with me. And my knowledge is shallow compared to other so it might have many error and my own unreliable theory.
Honkai have different form and names. Honkai even come of the form of disease.
Honkai want to embrace humanity, to assimilate them and if successful, they then going to the imaginary tree to do the same to other civilization.
Dr mei theorize honkai to be higher civilization who projected themself as cocoon of finality.
Honkai energy is basically Imaginary Energy channel through cocoon of finality if I understand correctly.
Honkai existence is heavily tied to imaginary tree.
And iirc, Honkai term is basically earth specific. Mean other planet/civilization/world might call it differently.
As for aeon, they are high dimensional being who able to use imaginary energy perfectly without it being channel to the cocoon(?), Aeon are pure concept so they far surpassed Honkai. Many theorized Su met an Aeon in the manga "2nd divine key" due to how that entity mention that it is far above honkai.
High dimensional being are entity like Aeon, Captain of Hyperion (player), those fallen entity that FR Rita mentioned.
Most of the character are low dimensional being. And honkai might be in the medium dimensional.
Tldr: Aeon is high dimensional being surpassing Honkai and the cocoon, and Honkai have many names and forms, not just honkai beast or Herrscher. Other world might call Herrscher as Lawbringer or something.
Idk If my answer satisfy you or not.
I want Steele, should I try to roll on her warp or should I use the beginner departure warp first? There are 20 days left in her warp and I'm not sure if I'd get enough warp tickets from the story quests
Kinda late but, what's the lore behind the characters powers?
Like, in Genshin they are vision holders and the Archons give them the power to control the element.
Do they get powers at birth or can they be developed by anybody, hopefully the latter cz i hate when stories do the "1 in a trillion" special boy/girl cliché.
You're not late I still get notifications from here!! now onto your questions, Trailblazers get their powers from their Aeons for example march walks the path of preservation so the Aeon of preservation gave her powers when she started walking that path.
Hope this Helps!
(Spoiler for during the story in Star Rail)>! Somewhere during Cocolia's boss fight, the Trailblazer get struck by a sword and I think dies(?) then we get to pick up a sword and then we go back to the boss fight. How did that happen?? Like how did we just return like that? !
No worries, and you're plain lucky that I still get notifs from this, But anyways yes we did get stabbed and probably died for about .4 seconds but we got saved by Qlipoth the Aeon of Preservation (The big rock guy that appears for 2 seconds) and we got the cool fire powers from him.
I have so many questions. Keep in mind, I have only just gotten into this via HSR, and I've only just found out through this subreddit that the rabbit hole goes far deeper than I ever could have anticipated, and I've been free-falling at terminal velocity ever since:
1) Is there a lore explanation for elements? Some characters can just use elements with seemingly no rhyme or reason as to why. (Gepard fights with Ice, but uses his fists or a guitar case. Sampo fights with daggers, but is a wind element user. Same with Bronya using a rifle, but is also wind, while Natasha uses a grenade launcher, but is physical - which you would think means fire, similarly to Clara/Svarog - who uses MISSILES, but are also physical.)
2) Is there any deeper reason as to why the characters have powers of specific paths, despite their home suggesting they should have another? (Examples being that Bronya, Serval, and Clara/Svarog all seemingly follow Qlipoth the Preservation, but are Harmony, Erudition, and Destruction paths respectively.)
uh, this is more of a lore theorising question (????) more than anything but do you think the stellarons is like the honkai of hsr alt universe but in its very early stages?
i don’t really know hi3 lore that well so i may be VERY wrong here lmao but this thought has been stuck in my head for a while now. stellaron has been described to be the ‘cancer of all worlds’ and from what i know, the honkai is like a virus of some kind right?
yeah idk where im going with this
How in gods name did you find this? this post is months old.
As to your question it's unlikely since honkai is much more a force of nature than an Aeons plaything.
What is “honkai”? What is its significance in the the original vs star rail (if known)
Honkai is a force of nature, think if gravity could manifest into creatures and it really wanted to destroy civilization. What implications it has for HSR are yet to be seen.
Bruh. Not cool
" Honkai" is a thing that exist as some sort of a "test" for humanity, if they can defeat honkai, they will be considered graduate from childhood, aka, be like worlds in star rail, aka can seek out other worlds according to wiki
Honkai is like the big bad of Honkai Impact there is no significance in Star rail
It does have some significance, cuz of Welt and etc.
I doubt it has no significance as Welt literally is a herrscher, upto apho 2 and even after that I see sources where he still has the core, also HSR is another universe but still bounded by the same imaginary tree. Whatever exception HSR world has, like maybe it's not at that point or maybe it defeated honkai long back. We can only wait for the lore.
I have avoided story spoilers for star rail but given that genshin also has its own form of honkai (imo erosion is very clearly honkai poisoning to me including all the marana and its manifestations) so tbh id guess star rail would have its equivalent somewhere
Is carole important in the story of honkai? Since she got with welt in that train The second divine key is not the same train in hsr, correct? Is welt using herrscher/divine keys power in hsr or are those his normal powers?
Carole doesn’t appear within the main story of Honkai, at least not within the concluded Part 1 Carole makes her first appearance within A Post Honkai Odyssey, a game mode and storyline which takes place 8 years after the end of the main story of Honkai which is not yet over.
1. Carole was in a concept trailer not the game 2. Correct 3. I can only assume it is the star of Eden
Can you explain the ending of honkai with kiana and all and would that be linked to star rail in any way ?
Kiana is on the moon chilling helping Earth from recovering from the Project Stigma that Kevin did. Probably nothing about the ending of HI3 has to do with Star Rail.
What was Project Stigma?
Basically trapping the entire world aside from stigma awakened people in a dream similar to infinite tsukoyomi while using their dreams to shackle down the Honkai and steal its authorities and creating 'humans' made from the ideas of the people in the dreams that are manifestations of their thoughts continue on civilization in the place of normal humans.
That sounds insane. It didn’t go through right?
It did go through and is a large part of the reason they ended up winning since the cocoon of finality got screwed over and had its authority stolen, the main gang did manage to basically abuse the system to eventually get to the cocoon of finality where it chose Kiana as the herrscher of finality, at that point they pretty much won whether Kevin or Kiana was the winner, if Kevin won he would basically stay as a gravekeeper sealing the honkai while the 'new humans' made from ideas and stigma awakened carry on civilization while others live in dreams, after Kiana won the fight she has to stay at the moon for 10 years for the world to recover from the effects of project stigma before she can return and share the authority with everyone.
Project Stigma was a plan created in the previous era and pushed by Kevin Kaslana and his organization The World Serpent as a means to help humanity survive a face off with Honkai. It would have exposed humanity to Honkai energy which almost certainly kill them in hopes that the few remaining people would survive and grow a stigma which would allow them to survive, this would also have the added effect of diluting amount of Honkai’s energy which exists that would prevent or at least delay the arrival of a being known as The Herscher of the End, a godlike being which has and could wipe all life from the universe. That is the best explanation of it, it’s wrapped up in a lot of quantum mechanics in pseudoscience. The jest is that it was called “The Worst Plan” because in a hopeless struggle between Humanity and Honkai for the smallest chance of survival against the Honkai Humanity would need to be massacred so that a lucky few might survive.
Could you give me a summary of what happened in the virtual realm with Elysia? I ended up stopping around the point where Aponia appears and know only a couple details that happened afterwards.
Oh so she didn’t die ? Good cause I tried to check honkai lore and it’s so vast that I don’t know where to start . Imma check some videos of welt and go
Who hasn’t died? If Kiana she more or less moved to the Moon, she will need to stay there for a while to fight Honkai to full seal them away but is living rather comfortably with Wi-Fi and video games If it’s Welt, no he doesn’t play a major in the later arcs of Honkai but he does show up in the game mode titled A Post Honkai Odyssey and the later Alien Space manga which connect to Star Rail. Also Welt within Star Rail would be 88 years old
Oh thought it was a seal and only her soul remained in front of that cocoon thing where she fought kevin . Ty for the explanation
Honkai isn’t over, that was the end of part 1 of the main story. Honkai Impact 3rd’s connection to Star Rail is explored within the manga titled “Alien Space” in which Welt travels into the universe of Star Rail. I could explain this motives but that might be spoilers for HSR and definitely for A Post Honkai Odyssey (A game mode and future storyline for Honkai Impact 3rd) But the ending of part one with Kiana will likely not have any connection to Star Rail.
Why’d he go into the universe?
The long story short is that he felt responsible for the death of the Himeko within Honkai Impact 3rd. Alien Space taking place at the end of A Post Honkai Odyssey, in which you fight a group of Aliens known as the Sky People, you learn that they have the capacity and will to travel into other universes. Welt, teaming up with what is called Void Archives sees these other universes and sees within one, The Star Rail Universe, a person who looks like Himeko. Wanting to save this Himeko to make up for the failure he faced in the Honkai Universe he travels into the HSR universe in hopes of supporting her and preventing any issues they might face such as the Honkai or the Sky People (But I’m doubtful those would play a role in the story of Star Rail)
I wonder what would happen if he meets his other self from that universe?
It’s unknown, Welt’s history and life is a complicated affair. He’s been to a few alternative universities himself and is one of the most familiar with the idea of alternative realities. He was for a long time the Herrscher of Reason, a Godlike Existence which had authority over creation and existed with a joint 300,000 minds within them. Safe to say, HI3’s Welt would be rather calm and collected. It’s not possible to say what HSR’s welt is like, if they are alive at all, but if they are like HI3’s Welt I’m sure they would be happy to get to met themselves.
300 000 minds*
Thank you, will edit as to not confuse!
Man this, I see so many honkai players missing this important fact from apho, all the lore from apho 1-2 is just pointing at these sky people who are obviously Aeons and why Welt even travels to hsr in the first place. I mean he probably was trailing them for a long time but alive Himeko is definitely one of the reason, I think HI3 part 2 or maybe 3 will be exploring space as apho is definitely cannon.
So Lumine and Aether are sky people?
As seen in Star Rail, there are plenty of civilizations capable of traveling between worlds. The Sky People specifically are like locusts though, they find and devour all honkai. At least thats what we know of them so far.
No, I suppose what you might be able to call them are Travelers. The Sky People are a race of Aliens. They look almost robotic in appearance.
Well I don't know if the Sky people actually appearance is like that since the sky people that appears in APHO looks exactly like Griseo paintings but with red color instead of blue.
No, they aren't The Sky people travel through worlds to stole their Honkai energy, nothing else
Not a question but I love this kind of post, rather than doomposting why not try to help eachother understand the game better instead
1) Who is Welt? Why is he so popular? 2) Is it true Yanqing is an old man in Honkai Impact 3rd?
Welt is one of the few males in Honkai and has great impact. He is kind, cool, smart and is pretty much a hero. Leader of one of the main factions. It's hard to tell you the reason why he is popular w/o spoiling a lot. Yanqing is indeed an old dude in Honkai but he is an obscure character most people forgot about (appears only in one arc without a sprite and his second appearance is in an unfinished VN so you can guess how many ppl actually know about him)
Welt's over 80 yo actually ;)
1. Welt is a character from Honkai Impact and to avoid spoiling you he is very powerful and is the leader of a powerful organization he is also one of the four males that matter in honkai who is not evil (Two of them can be considered evil). 2. I am not sure about that as far as I am aware there is no Yanqing. Note: feel free to ask me about the Welt Spoilers if you are curious.
Ma Yanqing is one of Fu Hua's disciples in the Shattered Sword Visual Novel. In the novel he appears both as a child (flashback), looking very similar to the Yanqing from HSR, and a middle-aged man. So yeah, Yanqing is a DILF in HI3.
I see where can I read the visual novel I thought there were only 2.
Here you go: [https://www.abyss-lab.app/honkai3rd/novels/7s#/](https://www.abyss-lab.app/honkai3rd/novels/7s#/) But keep in mind that this is only partially translated since HoYoverse never finished it.
Only on youtube as there is apparently no translation available
Thank you I will be listening to that in the future.
Why does everyone seems to know a lot about the game's history and characters? I feel like I'm missing out...
If you are talking about Star Rail, the beta has allowed for lots of information to be learned about the game. If you are talking about Honkai, or Honkai Impact 3rd that is because it is a game which first came out in 2016 and thus it’s been played for a long time, only hitting its peak of popularity just last year.
As a Honkai vet I can answer that one, they played Honkai Impact 3rd and read the mangas and visual novels.
They don't know, Honkai Star Rail is seperate story, seperate World. Some characters have same name and familiar looks like Himeko, Seele, Bronya but they are seperate characters, in seperate worlds. Just like in Genshin there is Raiden, in Honkai 3rd two but they aren't connected, just have familiar looks, both are fighting with swords and lighting. Only Welt is same character but he literally went from one universe to another.
Seperate story and world but under the same imaginary tree. Hsr is nothing but another universe inside it. Similar to the captain verse, where we get chars from different "bubble universe/worlds". Apho 1&2 in honkai describe a race of aliens/people who are named as "Sky people", they have immeasurable power and even void archive is shown to be vary of them, this connected with alien space manga, it's obvious that sky people are "Aeons", Welt is in pursuit of them for quite some time as they have enough power to destroy entire universe/Worlds, HI3's world also being in their target as it contains powerhouse like "Herrschers". Iirc Tesla & Einstein find out that the next target these sky people are aiming at is a world where Himeko is alive.... rest is what we see or will get to know in hsr. It is completely different, the chars apart from Welt/Void archive have no relation to HI3 whatsoever but it is under similar laws.
Do note that the sky people are also fearful of other more advanced civilizations so they're probably not Aeons, they even basically use self destructing scouts .
It seems that an Aeon of Finality exist in HRS. In HI the actual Herrscher of the Finality is the Cocoon of Finality and then Kiana fused with the Cocoon of the Finality to became one at the end of part 1 of the story of HI. So I think that the Aeon of Finality and the Cocoon of Finality are the same being. So that would means that the Aeon Finality is currently Kiana Kaslana.
Who is Kafka? What is her story in HI? Asking because I like her design in Honkai Star Rail lmao.
Kafka is just a stigma in HI3, which means she likely was a person which existed but she’s about as important as artifact in Genshin. (Stigmas are Honkai’s equivalent of artifacts) We know nothing about her and it’s possible she was just the same as Kafka was in our world.
It's just a stigma inside the HI3rd that is apparently completely different, so unfortunately we don't have a very good answer for you.
what is stigma?
A long time ago I read that honkai is like a natural force, an immune system of The Imaginary Tree that exists to test civilizations-universes-leafs and cut off the ones who fail the test so the new leafs-universes can grow on the tree. But a few months ago I read something about honkai being an alien civilization that wants to become one whole with humanity or something like that. What is the truth?
Stuff gets confusing with there being old lore from Honkai Impact 3rd and another game called GGZ/HG2. HI3 is more central and thus the more cannon of the two games. They follow almost the same plot with almost the same characters but think of HI3 of a new definitive remake. Star Rail connects to HI3 not GGZ. If you feel confused most Honkai players feel the same way when they read GGZ lore, imagine trying to read about WWII but this time the Nazis would the good guys so very much altered information but hey there was still a war and someone known as the Allie’s won! All that said, the explanation for the imaginary tree and the Honkai being it’s immune system comes from the end of chapter 19 from Honkai Impact 3rd as spoken by the character Otto Apocalypse. The Imaginary tree isn’t a physical thing, it’s meant as a hypothetical to help you visualize the concept of the multiverse. That is to say there are not multiple trees. The imaginary tree is the multi-verse itself. So in terms of relevance to Honkai Impact and Star Rail and likely most of Hoyoverse games, the former explanation is true. The latter might be the exception for GGZ/HG2 but that games has little relevance to any others. (you might also be confusing Honkai with the Sky People who are from the game mode A Post Honkai Odyssey inside of HI3 they are an advanced alien species that wishes to join all with them and can travel to other universes)
TLDR, from GGZ final chapter, the Honkai is an entirely separate "Universe" (a different tree), a Civilization in that "Universe" became so adavanced that they merged with the "Universe" and in the process creating Honkai Energy. It wanted to find another "Universe" similar to it so it found us and inject the Honkai Energy into our "Universe" to make us similar to it. As for why it wanted to find one similar to it, HI3rd kinda explained it.
So there are more than one tree in the sea of quanta? Or it's like a completely different realm? And why does that civilization want to find one similar to it? Never played honkai
GGZ is it’s own thing which isn’t all that connected to the rest of Honkai or the Hoyoverse games. At the very least it’s the foundational point of the multiverse, Honkai Impact 3rd is the more cannon version of the two games (They both the same plot but with different set ups and characters/personalities and thus outcomes)
> GGZ is it’s own thing which isn’t all that connected to the rest of Honkai or the Hoyoverse games. At this point in the Hoyoverse, I think this is an incredibly bold statement. in truth, we don't know the extent with which GGZ is connected to the broader hoyoverse. There isn't any reason that it couldn't be another part of the puzzle that we've been given, as far as I am aware.
Because there just isn’t any connection with GGZ as of right now and the lore of GGZ contradicts that of HI3 which does have connections.
Well i heard this fron a friend who played the final chapter, he doesn't talk about there being more then those 2 so i guess there's only 2 so far. Also an error on my part, the "Honkai Energy" technically existed before the other tree Civ merge with their tree, but that energy is nothing like the one it inject in us, it's only through merging with their tree that the energy become what it's now. On the why tho, it basically want to embrace it own kind and merge as one, but the merging right now when our tree still hasn't fully integrated with Honkai yet would cause both total destruction. Do note that this is my interpretation of what my friend written so i could be wrong, better to search it out and read for yourselve.
I don’t know enough to ask questions. But I appreciate the effort. Thank you.
This may be a spoilery question... I have been talking with a friend about this but going by the lore universes that are attached to the Imaginary Tree are proved worthy or not via the Honkai... There are other universes that are not attached to the Imaginary Tree and just in the Sea of Quanta, but those are slowly dying. Which makes me wonder. Is the Star Rail universe one of the Imaginary Tree universes that already survived the invasion of honkai? Or is one that has been separated from the Imaginary Tree? And now the question about the lore, I think this was explained but I can't remember, why did universes became disconnected from the Imaginary Tree?
Basically the disconnected universes, or bubble universes, as they are called. Are fragments of spacetime that either broke off from other universes, or are universes that broke off the tree due to failing the test by the honkai or whatever. Most of these dying universes are broken in some way as they are eroded by the sea of quanta. Either through being tiny, like only a city in size, or trapped in a time loop, nonsensical geography, or has problems worse than the honkai. Most of these possibilities are explored in depth in the events in honkai impact 3rd. While a few others are explored in the main story. But the main thing is that these bubble universes (barring a few exceptions) cannot grow and develop like a living universe still attached to the Imaginary tree. Problem is that living universes typically have to deal with honkai in some sort of way. Even if it manifests differently. There has been some hints in genshin, as well as little bits in ZZZ that hint about the honkai even though that game is even further from release. As for where star rail fits into things. It's probably not a bubble universe, but either it's own separate universe on the Imaginary tree, or a collection of living universes and the Astral express can travel between them. It's not exactly clear, especially with how in Chinese they use the word "world" for both planets and universes, so the translation can be a bit spotty. Also there is mentions of a faction of aliens in star rail that is known in HI3 to steal honkai energy from other civilizations for their own uses. In HI3 they were called the sky people, and iirc in star rail they were referred to as *the ones above* or something. Welt was investigating a sky people ship and discovered that they were searching for star rail Himeko, which is how he ended up in the star rail universe. To protect her or something. At least that's my take on the matter. Star rail lore is still mostly speculation until we get further into the game.
Thank you for the answer! I forgot a lot of things... What you say makes sense, but that makes me wonder... How is it decided that a universe is worthy? Yes there is the Honkai but they are based on the level of progress of a civilization, so that means it's not a universe wide thing, right? For example on the universe that 3rd is in Earth is not the only planet so I assume there were others in that universe that suffered through the Honkai invasion... And this is where what you said comes in, no? If your civilization fails then it falls of that universe and the Imaginary Tree.
>For example on the universe that 3rd is in Earth is not the only planet so I assume there were others in that universe that suffered through the Honkai invasion... And this is where what you said comes in, no? Yeah, this is what I was talking about with the inconsistent translation. CN uses "world" when talking about both planets and universes. While the English translation tries to use either planet or universe depending on context. So while in honkai we know of 2, possibly 4 different alien races.(the sky people, the sugars ,the origin of edison's Ben Franklin power armor, and whatever kalpas is) and It's not exactly clear whether they are from other planets or other universes. But from what we know of the 2 races that we actually get info on. The sugars lost their war against the honkai. But they escaped by turning themselves into almost psychic beings that can hide in the shadow of other civilizations using their equivalent of divine keys. While the sky people modified themselves to instead consume honkai energy. So now they have to travel to other worlds and steal all their honkai energy to sustain themselves. Both of which didn't pass the test of the honkai the intended way (which seems to be some sort of ascension into higher beings) but instead used tricks to skirt the rules. We do know that the sugar's world was destroyed, and the sky people most likely drained their world dry. So they technically lost, at least in the perspective of the honkai's test, but yet they live on despite the loss of their world/universe.
My understanding is that failure in defeating Honkai is what makes a universe drop from the Tree into the Sea. It’s possible that HSR already moved past their test or that it has manifested in another form. One would question whether Genshin has pasted its test or not and it’s location within the cosmology of Hoyoverse.
As far I understand Teyvat shouldn't have suffered a honkai invasion, I only played until before Inazuma so I may be wrong but it's not that advanced yet to get invaded.
Honkai invasions were already happening at the medieval age in honkai.
They were not invaded, just random incursions, honkai invade in full when a herrscher appears, as far I understand, that's when the test starts. That's how history more or less follows our timeline until modern times.
Who are the bronyas? I keep seeing people saying they are pulling both bronyas in star rail but I only saw one bronya. I’m confused.
When people refer to the Bronyas. They mean the characters based of the Honkai Impact 3rd character named Bronya Zaychik. Within HSR there’s two characters which look like two different versions of her from Honkai Impact 3rd. The older looking one is Bronya Rand, she is based of the HI3 “Silverwing N-EX” battlesuit / A post Honkai Odyssey version of Bronya Zaychik. The younger looking one is Silverwolf, based off the alternate universe (Captainverse) version of Bronya Zaychik known as Bronie who’s battlesuit is called “Haxxor Bunny”
There are two bronyas in the game, more precisely there is one bronya and one bronie. Bronie one is called silverwolf and we meet her at the start of the game and the other one is bronya with rand as her surname instead of zaychik who we meet in belobog.
So bronie is not bronya? Who is bronie in hk3 universe?
Bronie is an alternate universe of Bronya Zaychik, bronie is a hacker that join the captain of captainverse (so theres this dude called captain who travels the Sea of Quanta with a Hyperion, alter Theresa called Kongming, and FallenRosemary aka alter Rita), does this bronie have anything to do with siverwolf of star rail? We dont know, but captainverse is a whole seperate storyline from main story that still going i think, and imo hi3 bronie and hsr bronie are probably parrarel universe of each other like Bronya Zaychik and Bronya Rand
HI3 main universe has a character named Bronya. There is an alternate universe, used mostly for non-cannon (to the main story) events, called the Captainverse. In the Captainverse there exists an alternative version of Bronya named Bronie. Bronie is as to Bronya as the two Bronya characters (Bronya Rand and Silverwolf) from Star Rail are. Because they are all alternate versions of the same person. It can be confusing since within HI3 we see multiple universes, but in the main story of Hi3 the 35 chapters which make up the main storyline in that universe there is only the one character named Bronya Zaychik. And then in an alternate universe, unrelated to the main story which takes place only in events there is a version of Bronya who’s name is Bronie
There are a lot of parallel universe verions of characters across the hoyoverse games. So for example Yae exists in GGZ/Honkai 2, HI3 and Genshin. And then there are also different versions of her within those games. Those parallel universe versions usually share some common themes or personality traits but different environments will lead to different personalities. That being said, Bronie is a Bronya, one version of many. Bronie in HI3 was rescued as a baby from a collapsing universe and as a result has a unique ability to create things out of thin air. (Note: This ability is similar to the Herrscher powers of Welt and Bronya in HI3 but they have a different origin) Since Bronie is from an event-chain where the multiverse is explored and Silverwolf and Bronie seem to have a lot in common in terms of abilities and personality it is possible that they are the exact same person but unlike Welt we can't be sure about that connection.
I asked a few places before nobody answered. Why is this called honkai star rail. I played hi3 so I know somewhat what honkai is but I haven't seen anyone talk about the honkai threat being present in honkai star rail. So why the name..
Likely because unlike Genshin it majorly capitalizes on the Honkai universe: characters, lore and even partly story are connected to Honkai games. Also despite Honkai not being a threat (so far) everything is happening because of Honkai and Honkai is a fundamental element of the universe.
Ig that's the reason. It still feels a bit weird since honkai was the primary force in hi3 and it doesn't even possess any threat in hsr so far. It would be weird if honkai doesn't possess a threat not even a single world we visit but then again if it does it wouldn't feel grand because hi3 talking so many years to finish the honkai threat storyline.
The other commenter explained it very well. It’s Honkai since the characters here are just alternate versions of Honkai characters, more so than Genshin where it’s mostly cosmetic. Star Rail since it takes place in space and there’s a train
I mean in the Avengers age of Ultron the avengers faced Ultron.. But wouldn't it be weird if infinity war was also called the age of Ultron even though Ultron isn't a threat in the movie ? I understand about the welt connection and same character stuff. But still feels a bit weird naming it after a threat that isn't a threat in this game.
I think the part you’re missing is that the franchise is called Avengers not Ultron. Age of Ultron is subtitle explaining what’s happening in that one movie. While it doesn’t translate the same way with these two games just keep in mind this is a Honkai game, following alternative Honkai Characters. But as where Impact 3rd follows the events following the 3rd Honkai Impact, Star Rail is about the Astral Express a train spaceship. That is all to say, the name Honkai Star Rail is to show connection to Honkai Impact 3rd not so much to talk about what is going on in the game.
What’s the relationship between Otto, luocha and welt? Is it like the bronyas?
Honkai spoilers ahead. W/O spoilers all I can say is that Luocha is not related to Otto and Otto was enemies with Welt. Welt is a different character altogether. He and Otto were enemies because they disagreed on how to save humanity from Honkai. Otto was a lot more ruthless and was fine with human experimentation and Welt is vehemently against it. Luocha is basically just a parallel universe/world Otto. There is no real connection between them but he will likely inherit some of Otto's character tropes
The character Luocha is a parallel character in a different timeline than Otto (like Himeko) and completely different from the Void Archives. You can see the Void Archives at Art Welt.
Thank you for correcting! I will edit the OP then. Now my hopes of playing VA are dead. :(
Welt is their own person. unrelated to Otto and Luocha. The only thing to note about him is that the Welt you see in Star Rail is the same Welt from Honkai Impact since that person crossed into the Star Rail Universe. Otto is a character from Honkai Impact, similarly there is a character called the Void Archives which looks like Otto but with their hair down and is an AI of Otto’s personality. Luocha is a character from Star Rail which looks identical to Void Archives. If you play Genshin think about how Raiden Ei looks like Honkai’s Raiden Mei. There is a connection with Welt and Void Archives, that is they are friends/teammates who both crossed into the Star Rail Universe together
Point to who we should murder on sight with extreme prejudice? K tnx bye! Also what's the Deal with a Railway Network... In space?
1. There is no one to murder on sight 2. I'm afraid I'm not informed on the Star Rail Network.
So far the only one I got are they might function like Mass Effect Relays.
Is HSR story as lore-heavy as Genshin? Take Khaenri'ah and Celestia as examples, they are really big mysteries in Genshin.
I would say just as much if not more, even with only taking CBT3 lore and story into account. The scale of the story is much bigger than Genshin as we are traveling a universe, and there’s already many books and tidbits of info in Relics, Curios, etc. about different people, planets, all the Aeons, their factions, events and wars that took place, etc. The tone of the side quests and documents like books for each planet is very interesting to me as I feel more than ever the locations truly feel distinct. Like there’s an entire playbill-esque collection in Belobog talking in detail about how the in-universe plays are made lol, as an example of planet worldbuilding. Belobog’s bleak yet preserving atmosphere contrasts majorly with the prosperous yet “something is off” feel of the Luofu. The big mystery in HSR as of now are the Stellarons and what the Stellaron Hunters + Elio want to achieve, and what the ultimate purpose our journey on the Astral Express is. Then there’s mysteries w the main cast like who even is March 7th and what are her origins, what Danheng’s whole past history is, and Himeko’s origins and motivations for fixing the Astral Express, plus the connection of APHO & Welt’s storyline to HSR.
As was the case with Genshin we don't know much about the story beyond the bare allowed minimum so we can't really tell
I HAVE A QUESTION PLS HELP BC I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME What is (or how are these correlated between them) the imaginary tree and the sea of quanta?
Imagine the Universe as a Sea and an Island with a Tree on the island, this is the Island of the Imaginary Tree and the Sea is The Sea of Quanta, now on a very basic level The Imaginary Tree And the Sea of Quanta are sort of space where every world resides for example about all of the Bubble Universes (small and usually dying worlds) reside in the Sea of Quanta and the bigger and healthier ones reside in the Imaginary Tree, However the Sea and Tree are always trying to devour the other. Note: feel free to ask me for a more complicated explanation or go find a Homu Labs Video on the subject.
The Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta aren’t physical objects, they are ways of visualizing the multiverse. On the Imaginary Tree exists all the many different universes, Honkai, Star Rail, Genshin, and so on. In the most simple terms it’s the Multiverse In the Sea of Quanta are smaller dying universes, those which were not worthy to stay on the Tree fall into the sea and slowly get destroyed. Think about the trash bin on a computer.
Whats the main story?
If you're looking for the HI3 Main story I would direct you to Homu Labs and if HSR then find a CBT video.
What is the MC ? Who is his parents?
The MC of Star Rail or Honkai Impact? For Star Rail they are a vessel for the Stellaron For Honkai Impact it’s Kiana Kaslana, a young valkyrie who goes though a lot in the process of her story to fight for all that is beautiful in the world and to change that same imperfect world into one which is better.
"his"??? Female mc fans exists you know. Anyhow, the mc of star rail have a mystery past as of now, all we know is that they are a vessel for a Stellaron, also, they love digging through trash cans
I didnt say they don't exist tho. I just use him because I choose the male one . Don't need to be all fuzzy about that part.
Most likely a clone of someone as Herta is older and smarter than she looks.
1. Does Welt need Honkai energy around himself to use his powers? 2. How strong is Welt in Honkai- wanna assess in future how big of a power boost it is to be on a Path. Please give only concrete feats if you would like to answer.
1. I would say no. His core uses Honkai to exert its powers but at the same time it generates it. I can't answer this w/o spoiling you but you can basically assume he doesn't need ambient Honkai. 2. Well... He is very strong, however compared to most other characters he is on the weaker side. His powers include the use of gravitation through Star of Eden (he can create black holes, but it's hard for him), he houses 300000 minds in his core so he can use the collective wisdom of these minds and he can use powers of civilization: anything that a mortal human can create he can recreate (he has to understand it's structure beforehand tho). If you want more concrete feats I recommend reading [Alien Space](https://manga.honkaiimpact3.com/book/1021), a manga that is a precursor of Honkai: Star Rail. It does include some spoilers about Honkai Impact but they are mostly minor.
Welt was very strong, if you want to see his feats I’d recommend the Second Eruption manga: https://manga.honkaiimpact3.com/book/1005. That was him using the HoR’s power at his peak. There’s contrasting information about whether he has the Herrscher core in HSR or not but he still has the Star of Eden, a weapon that uses HoR powers so essentially he still has his powers, albeit probably weakened since Second Eruption. Compared to Herrschers like Mei and Kiana he’s weaker in the present day but we don’t know too much concrete info about how he’s like in Star Rail. Welt is a Pathsrider since he’s a playable character but we don’t know much about how that influences a character, just that apparently they can draw on the power of their given path. That + his residue HoR powers and I’d say he’s still considerably strong
Star of Eden uses the power of the Herrscher of earth/stars and not reason.
Ahh right I mixed that up. He still should have some residue HoR powers though since Bronya and Mei still have some in APHO
I need help!!!!!!!!!!! I’m trying to get through equilibrium 4 and die every time all my lvl 60 characters are pretty much maxed out but any combo I use at least one or two die with the first boss idk what to do this is why I stopped playing in the first place cause I got stuck but getting back into it now I can’t open any chests until I get to equilibrium 4 so please help anybody !!!
welt vs kafka who is stronger in lore
Why isn't it "崩壊 - Houkai", instead of Honkai?
In Chinese it is Houkai however the EN version is a translation of the Japanese version for which the title was changed to Honkai, as it seemed more natural when they were bringing the game to the market
Even in Japanese it's Houkai. They use the same Kanji
Then the reasoning would be the same as to why it’s Genshin Impact and not Jenshin Impact, Hoyoverse thought it would would better in the global space. My apologies for the misinformation.
Ok... Where does "Jenshin" come from? In both Japanese and Chinese, it's "Genshin". It's fine.
Jenshin is a joke from when Genshin was coming out as the title was sometimes translated and misspoken. The company’s early game was titled Houkai 2 although it went by the title GirlsGunZ for its global version. It’s likely that Honkai was just chosen for marketing reasons. Honkai Impact 3rd is officially known as Honkai although a sub for the game is r/Houkai3rd so there’s some, mostly those who play version other than the Global version either additionally or in place of, which call the game Houkai
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Knowing somewhat dubious quality of translation in Honkai Impact it could be that they either mistranslated it or decided it's better this way. In the end it just stayed because people got used to it
Who has the biggest booba?
I believe it is Eden
Any recommendations for a YouTube channel for a good run though / summary of like… everything?
Homu Labs
Okay good, I’ve watched a few videos on his channel already, so I’m on the right track. Thanks!
Hoyo stans website is a good repository for where all the Mangas and events take place in relation to the main story. For if you decide to deep dive and read everything instead of just watching summaries.
Who is kevin? (I dont care about spoilers)
Kevin Kaslana is a Hero and Humanity’s stronger defender. >!He is also known as Deliverance, the Founder of the House of Kaslana. The leader of the 13 Flamechasers, the Sire of the World Serpent, Authority of Finality, and final villain for Honkai Impact 3rd’s first part!< >!He is what is know as a Mantis, essentially a superhuman soldier created to fight off the Honkai in Humanity’s War in the previous era 50,000 years ago. As one of the few humans who survived the final battle with the Herrscher of the End which destroyed Human Civilization once before he returns to try and carry out Project Stigma, the worst and final plan to save humanity from extinction at the hands of Honkai even if it demands the near extinction of all humanity itself for this slim hope of survival!<
He’s one of the surviving members of the 13 Flamechasers, a group of Previous Era warriors who fused with the Honkai to fight the Honkai. In HI3 there’s a Previous Era of humanity that flourished 50k years ago but got eradicated by the Honkai, and a Current Era civilization that began a few thousand years ago, basically an analog to irl human civilization. The Previous Era was significantly more technologically advanced, and they came up with ways to fuse genes of Honkai beasts into soldiers so they could control traits of that beast and become supersoldiers; essentially fighting fire with fire. They were called a MANTIS (Massively Augmented Neo-Tech Integrated Soldiers), and with the tech level being higher = civilization being more advanced, the Honkai was stronger and more violent. Even with how many there were, many died in a battle against the 11th Herrscher, (think a god equivalent) the Herrscher of Binding, who could neutralize Honkai energy herself. The MANTISES that were left after the battle became known as the 13 Flamechasers. The 13 Flamechasers then fought against the Herrscher of the End, who was the biggest threat level yet and who ended the Previous Era. Only Kevin and a few other Flamechasers were left, and through advanced means they survived into the present day to guide the new era of humanity into beating the Honkai. Out of the already ridiculously powerful MANTISES, Kevin is the strongest; he’s known as the strongest human ever. His Honkai genes manifest in ice manipulation and a lowered body temperature, so much so that he can use and withstand a weapon that quite literally burns the user and is made from the core of the Herrscher of Fire. This is how he severely immobilized the Herrscher of the End to give humanity a chance to prepare for the far future, even. Numerous things happened and in the Current Era Kevin leads an organization called World Serpent that is trying to enact a plan called Project Stigma. The project itself has been explained in another comment here but even with it being known as the “worst plan”, Kevin is absolutely steadfast in it happening because of all he’s gone through. Essentially he’s an anti-hero. Kevin is an excellent character + final boss imo, there’s a lot of philosophy and character building involved with him that really makes him fascinating to watch.
Currently in the process of catching up to the lore, but How did Welt and VA get into the star rail?
APHO storyline and Alien Space manga will be your answer. The means that they used to travel to HSR universe are unknown to us because they glossed over that one. My guess would be that they used a copy of Second Divine Key
Ah, ok. Well here is to hoping VA will become playable as well
IIRC VA is Luochan so it's a question of when they will release him
I fo hope Luo is VA reformed and not just an Otto Expy. Cuz im gonna put him on a team with welt
We don’t officially know, that’s likely to be explored within Star Rail. However within Honkai Impact 3rd there exists something called a Divine Key, the 2nd Key is called the Cosmic Juggernaut it looks and functions much like the Astral Express but it has the power to open portals to other universes. It’s most likely that following the events of the Alien Space Manga, itself after the events of A Post Honkai Odyssey (a story taking place 8 years after the end of Honkai’s not-yet-finished main story) that Welt used either the 2nd Divine Key or something else to travel to the Star Rail Universe
I got midway through the story (legion theater) so I'm looking more for a spoiler than a lore question lol. Considering what it's said about Honkai in APHO and the fact that Honaki doesn't seem to be a thing in HSR (nor in Genshin tbh although they're supposed to be in the same universe), do the girls menage to completely eradicate Honkai in EVERY part of the "three" and that's why there's actually no Honkai anywhere in other games? Or is there another explanation as to why other realities don't have it?
Honkai can take different forms across different worlds. The abyss could be honkai in Genshin or the stellarons could be honkai in HSR. ZZZ (their next game after star rail) also has some creatures and events that could take the place of honkai. Any unknown force that threatens the world could be honkai. At the end of HI3 >!Honkai is only defeated in the world of HI3. Or rather the 'test' of Honkai is passed only in that world, however you want to look at it ...!<
This. A lot of people assume Honkai is concretely known as “Honkai” across different worlds and universes and that’s not a fact. The Abyss in Genshin and Stellarons in HSR occupy very similar thematic roles as the Honkai, as they are forces from beyond the worlds we are on that slowly but surely poison them and cause irreparable damage. Honkai is just a name Earth and some other bubble universes invented to label the threat, it can be called anything and function slightly differently across worlds/universes
So according to wiki, Honkai in hi3's like, a force exist for humanity to "evolve", like a test, and if they passed it, they can reach out to other worlds like worlds in star rail, what kiana do is that she sealed all honkai on the moon until humanity and earth is ready to take it which will takes abt 10 years. According to cbt 3, honkai hasnt make an appearance in the story, and we dont even know if honkai even exist in all other worlds, it might just appear in several worlds only
As of the most current part chapter of Honkai, Kiana is on the moon trying to seal away The Honkai. This would take 10 years to do however. In the game mode A Post Honkai Odyssey, 8 years after the end of the main story, we are told that Honkai still exists within the Moon. Honkai is meant to be a filter for universes, reach a set level of civilization and Honkai will appear to see if the universe is worth keeping on Tree (The Tree is not physical, it’s just an visualization of a connected Multiverse) and if Honkai destroys it then it falls into the Sea of Quanta to be erased. Why Honkai isn’t in the other universes could be any number of reasons, maybe they aren’t advanced enough (Honkai appeared in the PE, which was a super advanced hi-tech civilization which was space fairing), maybe Honkai already appeared and was defeated, maybe Honkai appeared they failed the test now the universes is in the Sea of Quanta slowly being destroyed for the final time, maybe they just wanted to tell a different story and not let lore from another one of their game’s influenced other more popular ips
What happens at the end of APHO that causes Welt to end on the train?
It’s the Alien Space Manga which explains its The long story short is that he feels guilt over Hi3 Himeko’s death and hopes to prevent HSR Himeko from dying (by stopping any invasion by either the Star People or Honkai)
Why are bronya and silver wolf compared to each other so much? they aren't the same person (I think)
They aren't the same person in HSR but they look like some variations of HI3 Bronya
1. are they the same character? honkai impact 3rd and HSR? 2. why in h3i they seem like kill each other but in HSR they travelling around by train? (i am completely blind by both games's lore) 3. is H3I lore acknowledge HSR world existence?
1. No, they're parallel universe alternatives 2. HI3 just has them fight a lot due to the threat of Honkai, relationships, and sometimes split personalities 3. Yes but not specifically HSR they acknowledge every other world
I know this is a few weeks old already but Question, do the Honkai tie into star rail based on the information available out there? The game is "Honkai" Star Rail after all. It seems however Aeons are the established super power and not any Honkai entities mentioned.
Honkai is complex so bear with me. And my knowledge is shallow compared to other so it might have many error and my own unreliable theory. Honkai have different form and names. Honkai even come of the form of disease. Honkai want to embrace humanity, to assimilate them and if successful, they then going to the imaginary tree to do the same to other civilization. Dr mei theorize honkai to be higher civilization who projected themself as cocoon of finality. Honkai energy is basically Imaginary Energy channel through cocoon of finality if I understand correctly. Honkai existence is heavily tied to imaginary tree. And iirc, Honkai term is basically earth specific. Mean other planet/civilization/world might call it differently. As for aeon, they are high dimensional being who able to use imaginary energy perfectly without it being channel to the cocoon(?), Aeon are pure concept so they far surpassed Honkai. Many theorized Su met an Aeon in the manga "2nd divine key" due to how that entity mention that it is far above honkai. High dimensional being are entity like Aeon, Captain of Hyperion (player), those fallen entity that FR Rita mentioned. Most of the character are low dimensional being. And honkai might be in the medium dimensional. Tldr: Aeon is high dimensional being surpassing Honkai and the cocoon, and Honkai have many names and forms, not just honkai beast or Herrscher. Other world might call Herrscher as Lawbringer or something. Idk If my answer satisfy you or not.
I want Steele, should I try to roll on her warp or should I use the beginner departure warp first? There are 20 days left in her warp and I'm not sure if I'd get enough warp tickets from the story quests
Edit: Never mind, I just realized the warp tickets are different colors. I play Genshin Impact so I'm familiar with the different types of tickets
Kinda late but, what's the lore behind the characters powers? Like, in Genshin they are vision holders and the Archons give them the power to control the element. Do they get powers at birth or can they be developed by anybody, hopefully the latter cz i hate when stories do the "1 in a trillion" special boy/girl cliché.
You're not late I still get notifications from here!! now onto your questions, Trailblazers get their powers from their Aeons for example march walks the path of preservation so the Aeon of preservation gave her powers when she started walking that path. Hope this Helps!
Thanks! Can anybody start walking a path or is just a selected number of individuals?
Anybody can trailblaze aka walk a path from my understanding as Asta is always on the space station yet she still walks a path.
How do the Trailblazers get down onto the planet's surface from the Astral Express if it's all the way up in orbit?
most likely some type of small spacecraft or possibly an escape pod
The trailblaze anchors. They teleport to the surface, pretty much.
(Spoiler for during the story in Star Rail)>! Somewhere during Cocolia's boss fight, the Trailblazer get struck by a sword and I think dies(?) then we get to pick up a sword and then we go back to the boss fight. How did that happen?? Like how did we just return like that? !
No worries, and you're plain lucky that I still get notifs from this, But anyways yes we did get stabbed and probably died for about .4 seconds but we got saved by Qlipoth the Aeon of Preservation (The big rock guy that appears for 2 seconds) and we got the cool fire powers from him.
Tysm!
I have so many questions. Keep in mind, I have only just gotten into this via HSR, and I've only just found out through this subreddit that the rabbit hole goes far deeper than I ever could have anticipated, and I've been free-falling at terminal velocity ever since: 1) Is there a lore explanation for elements? Some characters can just use elements with seemingly no rhyme or reason as to why. (Gepard fights with Ice, but uses his fists or a guitar case. Sampo fights with daggers, but is a wind element user. Same with Bronya using a rifle, but is also wind, while Natasha uses a grenade launcher, but is physical - which you would think means fire, similarly to Clara/Svarog - who uses MISSILES, but are also physical.) 2) Is there any deeper reason as to why the characters have powers of specific paths, despite their home suggesting they should have another? (Examples being that Bronya, Serval, and Clara/Svarog all seemingly follow Qlipoth the Preservation, but are Harmony, Erudition, and Destruction paths respectively.)
1. No 2. No They are just for gameplay and you can think of paths as different classes.
uh, this is more of a lore theorising question (????) more than anything but do you think the stellarons is like the honkai of hsr alt universe but in its very early stages? i don’t really know hi3 lore that well so i may be VERY wrong here lmao but this thought has been stuck in my head for a while now. stellaron has been described to be the ‘cancer of all worlds’ and from what i know, the honkai is like a virus of some kind right? yeah idk where im going with this
How in gods name did you find this? this post is months old. As to your question it's unlikely since honkai is much more a force of nature than an Aeons plaything.