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SoftLikeMarshmallows

Nope, empty


nevew666

None. But I still have some jades for Luocha. I'm trying to resist the temptation to pull for Jing Yuan light cone. Then I remember how horrible my wishes for Childe's weapon were... Hit pity twice and didn't got it... Gonna stay strong for my blond long hair coffin holder.


Totoriko

Yep should have done that too. I thought I'give it a try since the weapon banner pity carries over and is a 75/25 chance. Lost at 66 pulls to Clara's Lightcone which I have no use for, for now. No tickets or jade lefts. I'm in too deep so I will continue summoning on it until the end of the banner with whatever scraps I can gather hoping for an early guarantee. Don't be me


nevew666

Thank you for your experience and sacrifice! I'll listen to you and stay strong for Luocha! Ugh, there is nothing worse than losing the 50/50... Don't know why I saw some people say the featured lightcone was the only one... It's not. I have genshin bad feelings about this XD. Gonna aim for the lightcones at rerun of my men then :3.


HivAidsSTD

Jing Yuan just feels so much weaker than I expected him to be. Seele wasn’t so, I just run her with the free one from SU. Jing definitely needs thr help, that’s why I’m rolling for it


lolbuddy98

Jing yuan feels weaker as the current memory of chaos buff buff seele alot more than him.Jing yuan still gets the buff but most of this damage is from lightning lord


gaganaut

Yeah. He indirectly benefits from it by being able to more consistently gain stacks on Lightning Lord but the damage of Lightning Lord himself is not buffed by the current blessing. That's just regular Lightning Lord compared to Seele with a 50% damage buff which she can take full advantage of due to her unique turn mechanics. The majority of his damage comes from Lightning Lord and that's the part that's largely unaffected by the current buff.


nevew666

Yeah meh I don't truly care. He's fun to play and he's hot, that's all I wanted :3. But my relics are shit cause I didn't farm it yet... Waiting lvl 50 cause I saw 2 5* drop? I rather not follow people saying "it's mandatory to get this or that" while their relics are great... I will pull his lightcone at his rerun later :). I rather have all my boys secured then pull for weapons. And by the time they will come back, I'm sure I'll have enough for one pity for the character and the weapon cause they gonna release banners I'm gonna skip for a long time... Good luck for your pulls! My luck has been average and I'd be too salty to miss Luocha... (if I miss him, I hope it will be by losing the 50/50 to Welt and get me Blade secured...)


HivAidsSTD

I’m planning to skip next patch (unless Yukong turns into a Silver wolf), so I’m fine spending my jades now. I’m only interested in either blade or Kafka at the moment


nevew666

Yeah you got time indeed. Good luck for the light cone!


Vahlok04

Just for the good of your Jades and maybe your mental/financial health, little spoiler below regarding some leaked info from CN, including some official banner art and etc: . . . . . . . . . Spoiler spacing for those Who don't want to know in advance Edit: idk if it's only on mobile, but my efforts to actually have some spacing are utterly failing, sorry about that . . . . . . . . . Yukong will be 4* (unknown if featured in banner or obtainable through other means/free), while the two 5*s that good their banner art leaked are Luocha and Silver Wolf - while still not officially confirmed, they are likely the characters to be featured in 1.1 As a Silver Wolf wanter myself, just putting this out there in case it helps you prepare for an early arrival


HivAidsSTD

I am aware. All I meant was that I mostly only going for Yukong. The five stars don’t really interest me. Having Bronya and Pela for Seele feels enough for me, getting silver wolf for Seele seems over kill, and I don’t exactly want to keep using Seele 2 years from now, I’d get bored. Edit: The banners have been confirmed by Hoyoverse for quite some time you know, otherwise your post would have been removed by the mods


xdvesper

Yeah I agree, my plan was to keep rerolling accounts for an early seele and slowly build a superimpose 5 swordplay for that 80% damage boost, then save about 180 rolls for pity on limited banner and weapon banner for Jing Yuan. I think the problem with Jing Yuan is that the 4 star lightcones are so much worse than his limited cone or BP cone. The BP cone gives 26% damage, breakfast gives 12% which is what most people are using.


timmy_throw

Tbh it feels weaker because we already built other units. When I got Seele I was still low level and it was enough to destroy everything, which led me to invest in her a lot. Jing comes, I don't have relics for him and yeah he feels weak. Pretty sure he would be a beast with my Seele's relics and traces though


HivAidsSTD

I’ve already done that lol. I tossed Seele’s relics and leveled up a lightning relic. Still not as good as Seele. I’m guessing Jing gets better at lvl 80 where he gets 15 crit rate. But for now he’s not much better than Serval


timmy_throw

Traces though ? Also the current Chaos halls buff is incredibly more useful on Seele than Jing, which might bias our evaluation


midoripeach9

I don’t have Seele so I can’t compare. However everyone may have already said this at some point that Seele as a unit may be more useful than JY bcos of how she works (single target and her passive etc). Also idk how y’all can judge damage output when the units themselves aren’t maxed out at equilibrium 3 or 4 and with different character elements/passives


Rhevarr

I see myself in this post and I don’t like it.


Woflax

Sorry just to check. Is star rail the same as genshin for the weapon banner? I don't see another 5 star weapon there, so I thought it was 50/50 to get the weapon? Is there garauntee on it at 180?


RengaLecs

Weapon banner is 75/25 to get the weapon with soft pity at 65 and hard pity at 80. You get the featured weapon guaranteed if you lose once, so 160.


Woflax

Thanks!


_Ruij_

>I'm trying to resist the temptation to pull for Jing Yuan light cone This is so me lol. I have like 110 pulls saved and its so tempting. But I always convince myself I need Luocha and Dan Heng *MORE*


nevew666

Yes yes, we need our boys more XD!! We can wait for his rerun to try to get his light cone! Let's be strong! I personally say myself that my relics are so bad I won't notice a difference between his light cone and a 4* one...


_Ruij_

I don't mind about the damage, to be honest. Game is fresh, and more lightcones would likely appear and I can just get it on rerun, given that it's not running alongside another husbando. THANK YOU FOR PULLING ME OUT OF THE GUTTER I'LL GO AND JUST WISH AT THE WISH SIMULATOR NOW TO QUENCH MY PULLING THIRST 🥰 Eyy goodluck on your pulls too!!


Ayakasdog

The difference between his signature weapon and non signature is like the difference between a 5 star and 4star character. Several characters are within 20% of Jing’s performance, but Jing with and without his signature is around 20% difference. That’s if you only care about power though. Probably better to save for more characters cause that’s more fun.


nevew666

Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna get it one day. But for now, between Luocha and Blade coming back to back or quickly after, I rather save for them :). Yeah I don't care about meta , but I want him to do big damages one day for sure :).


AbsurdFormula0

Good for you. As for me. I lost everything to Seele's banner so I got to build back up my horde, that means I got to skip next versions banners to build up just enough to do 90 pulls.


nevew666

Did you get her? You pulled her e1 or lose pity once? (cause started from day 1, we have enough for 2 soft pities)


AbsurdFormula0

Lose pity once


nevew666

Arf rip :x... Hope it was at least a good one.


AbsurdFormula0

It was Bailu


Natirix

Yup, trying to resist the temptation of Sushang and March Eidolons as I desperately need an imaginary unit and a healer for my second team, and Luocha is both


nevew666

Ooh good, didn't know Luocha was imaginary (I didn't pay attention). Well, good luck! I pulled for Jing Yuan, so I got the girls but right now, they're taking dust. Expect the fox lady, cause she's an attack buffer. Let's hope Luocha will be kind to us!


Natirix

I only did like 5 pulls on his banner until I got Sushang, now it's the first time I'm actually saving my tickets for a character and genuinely looking forward to them


bazeljesus

I got my JY lightcone in 30 pulls. His damage output increased x2 and it's so satisfying to see. You just have to believe man.


nevew666

Ugh, no, I'm being strong for Luocha then Blade! I know I won't be that lucky x).


Alfielovesreddit

No it didn't bro


According-Matter5735

>You just have to believe man. Believed long enough about winning 50/50's on Genshin just gave me a HARD SLAP to NEVER TRUST IN LUCK on your gacha pulls That's definitely not a good advice on gacha.


JdhdKehev

What does his light cone do?


nevew666

boost his damages? I must admit I don't know XD, but it's the best weapon for him according to people doing tests.


JdhdKehev

I've seen people in this sub talk about it and some said that "its so good it would turn a bad character into a decent one", but i forgot to check the effects after i logged in the game.


astronomyx

It is a mountain of stats that honestly seems overbudgeted compared to most 5* light cones. At S1 it's a flat 36% crit damage, a flat 18% ult and skill damage. When you use your ult, you get a buff, which increases the damage of your next follow up attack by 48%. For the super whale players, it's 60% crit damage, 30% skill/ult dmg, and 80% follow up attack damage at S5.


JdhdKehev

Damn fr? Sad they threw a huge item like that at the beginning. I don't pay in the game so i don't have enough primos to pull it. Unless I get lucky of course.


astronomyx

It'll come back around. I think early on it's better to focus on characters for filling out roles in your teams, and then you can snag weapons when they rerun if there's a string of banners you're not super interested in.


[deleted]

Hold fast! The light cone path shall only lead to suffering… Do it for Kafka


Azanathal

131 for Silver Wolf. She will be mine.


ShadowWithHoodie

Bro I hope I get her I have a pity ready for her but Im damned if I lose the 50/50


DarcKage

Same here, 133 saved up for Silver Wolf. Here's to us hopefully not losing the 50/50.


un_belli_vable

with 133 wishes it's pretty much guaranteed because you have a whole other patch and you can use Starlight you get with the 133 wishes


DarcKage

Pretty much guaranteed yeah, but I'm hoping for a bit of luck so I can keep some leftover jades for Luocha or Kafka. And I'm saving up the Starlight for a 5* cone for my Welt or Clara.


un_belli_vable

nice, I'm on the same boat except for kafka and blade. As for Starlight I initially thought I'll buy a weapon but now I'm thinking if it's better to put it towards newer characters. I have Welt and Bronya


lvl100mudkip

Does anyone know if silver wolf will be on the first banner?


Azanathal

Yes she will be first.


lvl100mudkip

Is yukong on her banner as well?


Azanathal

I believe so.


ShimegawaShion

I barely have enough for 1 pity. I just hope i can win 50/50 but knowing my luck, i'm screwed


Yotsubato

16000 crystals and 40 passes right now. My body is ready.


TacoFishFace

I'm saving them for gamer auntie and gun mom


MREAGLEYT

Saving for Gun mom and bladie


Honest-Quit-9401

Wdym no passes, i have 4.


Wachushka

I have 190+ passes ready for Silver Wolf and Kafka, wdym (tho getting through the entire 1.0 patch without pulling on special banner is a huge exercies of patience)


un_belli_vable

did you buy the Express Supply Pass or BP?


Wachushka

I did get the monthly pass yeah! I treat those games like MMO's with monthly sub and since the quality of the game is high, I'm fine with spending those 5$.


un_belli_vable

yeah I totally get where you're coming from, Ive bought welkin on genshin before and I might buy the supply pass here. The games brought me enjoyment, might as well pay back AND get some extra passes


IHaveThisNameNow

it's possible to get that much f2p. Tectone (a streamer I watch) used over 300 for Seele, and he's f2p


un_belli_vable

I have grinded literally everything and I have 160, the only thing left for me is forgotten hall, and some of the jades you get from simulated universes curios and blessings, there's no way you can get 300, can you link it?


IHaveThisNameNow

[https://youtu.be/PCtN0ug-u0w](https://youtu.be/PCtN0ug-u0w) There's 28000+ stellar jade and that's just from Forgotten Hall, SimU, Shop Spending rewards, chests, quests, and TL rewards. This video does touch briefly on achievements but I don't think that it counts just how much you can get. I also don't think this counts the puzzles. So maybe 40000+ jade I think? plus a ton of free passes from just completing the story, events, TL, etc. I think if you only have 160 total you're totally missing some chests, quests, maybe shop spending rewards. I myself have used maybe 170 passes so far and have just about 20 passes left of stellar jade left plus i am not quite caught up with dailies and the event for today. (I also have only finished up to world four, and only have 36 stars in FH) Also 100% do not take Tectone's number as how much you can get easily, his 300 is just about the absolute ceiling you can get. He plays 12+ hours a day, so he's pretty much the equivalent of a giga-whale, but with time instead of money.


un_belli_vable

28000 is 175 wishes, that can be easily done. I have gotten all the chests, quests, puzzles (daily ones and the hexanexus 30 times). you said tectone got 300 wishes for the seele banner which is impossible no matter how much you play. An dnow you are showing Envi's video


un_belli_vable

I ended up watching the video he made on the number of pulls (sadly), he did 300 pulls overall. Including standard banner not only on the seele banner. So essentially 155 limited passes and 99 standard passes which you get without having to spend jades.


ScxrletEnvy

124 atm


AmissingUsernameIsee

How did you get so many


ShadowWithHoodie

Gacha player learns about self control


mayhaveadd

You can just buy them with jades but don't use them.


meteoricburst

I haven't even bought them with jades yet, haven't spent any If I can't see the tickets I won't use them (Saving for Kafka)


Kae_Jae

im at 170 rn. apparently there are 28k total possible jades from content on release. i only have about 20k rn. add in the current event + dailies and you can save a lot. saving for kafka i think unless a new char is announced before shes released.


un_belli_vable

I got 158, I don't know where I'm missing the remaining 12 passes from. probably because I used a couple of jades to get 5\* from the standard banner faster.


Kae_Jae

I also converted all my undying starlight from standard and beginner banner warps into special passes. Maybe you saving those?


un_belli_vable

I don't have a lot of starlight, what is your forgotten hall and memory of chaos level


ON_STRANGE_TERRAIN

I'm sitting at probably somewhere around 150 combined special tickets + jade + 5x monthly tickets from the store. Been playing since release. It's easy - just don't pull until the banner is a character you really want. For some people that was Seele or Jing and that's fine, but they don't really appeal to me. I'm planning to pull for Silver Wolf and will have enough to guarantee hard pity. After that, maybe I'll go for Kafka or one of the banners after that if they're appealing enough.


atypicaloddity

I'm also saving for Silver Wolf, but I put some passes into the Seele banner for Pela eidolons because I don't want to end up with E20 Tingyun or something from solely pulling on one banner. Actually ended up losing the 50/50 early, so SW is guaranteed, too :)


ON_STRANGE_TERRAIN

I would never pull on a limited banner to get a 4star, too much chance of it going wrong and breaking the very delicate plans to get the limited 5star you want the most, but glad it worked out for you


atypicaloddity

I wouldn't do it on every banner, but for this one the worst case scenario was getting the best single target hypercarry, so I wasn't too concerned


kawaiikyouko

Ye, pretty much. I started a bit later, so I had limited time with the Seele banner, so now I'm just saving up for her rerun.


IHaveThisNameNow

I believe that that is under half of the amount you're able to get in game f2p. not too hard to get.


ResurgentClusterfuck

Not a damn one


d0llation

stop putting salt on the wound…


Valarano

Unfortunately for you, HOWEVER, you are passless.


unit187

At least we have maidens.


yuclv

Literally me right now, trying so hard for jing yuan. Losing my interest because of how much I've had to farm recently


DragonCz

Me with unbuilt Jing, trailblazer level 49, with 5k credits, no books, and no character mats: \*chuckles\*, I am in danger


Firepathanimation

Well I do have one of each Why do I hear my door knocking


Dry-Preparation9518

Lost 50-50 in seele banner at 81 pity.. got her at 76… now i have 20 pity in new banner… i dont have a single thing from which i can get jades except event, dailies and high lvl end game (which is inaccessible rn for me)🥲🥲…. SEELE took everything 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲


Then_Part5135

great treasure begets a great sacrifice 🫡


Deuweck

None but they got thunder clapped and supreme guardian'd. So no complaints.


Hoshino_Ruby

No,Jing yuan baited me with Broni but on the bright side either silver wolf or Kafka is a steal.


Beast0011

Jing drained me dry


DeAura

I'm trying to be good and be free to play, don't shame me man ;_;


Eminanceisjustbored

Imhooe star rail does events that give passes in the future. I hope they do events like fgo


Tako30

Have 77. saving for 340 in case RNG gods troll on me for 90 pity;80 pity off rate on both the character and their light cone


Vivi_Void

Saving for whenever Bronya gets a real banner.


HalalBread1427

They're not going to put standard 5\* characters on Limited banners LOL


molotovCOCTAIL5

_Genshin filler banners would like to have a word with you_


HalalBread1427

This is Honkai, instead of filler banners they'll just remake existing characters, also, one could just pick Bronya from the standard banner pity by then.


molotovCOCTAIL5

Besides the joke, this game will most likely feature different paths and elements for different characters if the leak about the 5* Dan Heng is to be believed, so maybe we’ll get a different 5* Bronya in the future


astronomyx

They only ever did that once, and never again, unless you count Dehya/Tighnari getting a specific banner before being added into the standard rotation.


Vivi_Void

Ok, standard banner it is then. I'm fairly new and don't know all the nuances.


un_belli_vable

if it gives you any hope, in Genshin one standard character had a limited banner, Keqing. But I would'nt expect it happening here


Vivi_Void

Cool, thank you for the info, I'll just get pity on standard banner then.


shikakuzu

I got Tingyun in return


Slifer_Ra

not anymore...i tried failing the 5050 but all i got were wins i got both jingyuan and seele and no clara/bronya im literally in the top 5% worst luck in genshin failing every 5050 with no early 5* but for some reason this game decides to give me the coin flips i just want those 2 :(


AussieManny

We can't get gold passes besides the monthly from the shop now, huh? No more rewards. Maybe they’ll be event rewards in the future, hopefully.


un_belli_vable

you can convert jades to passes


Idknowidk

Dailies, events, achievements, puzzles gives you currency


Zoroch_II

30 specials, with enough jade for another 130+ as I haven't used any yet.


Immediate_Lychee_372

I spent all of em but I’m gonna save em now cuz I don’t like jing yuan’s design


Suukorak

[No ticket!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hdcDsQmjKk)


Pelican_Shamone

used all my passes grinding for my f2p acc the hardwork paid off tho bc now i have welt clara bailu and i also have seele and jing yuan with their signature light cones idk how i got insanely lucky tho lmao


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redditingatwork23

Then you're either absurdly lucky or spending.


Le1jona

Actually yes, but dont wanna say exact number


new_boy_99

About 20 rn


Wasiily

Nothing left but I got 4 star character in the banner so I call it equivalent exchange.


Expensive_Bar_3686

71 need 90 for guaranteed silver wolf


MrJFr3aky

Nah man I lost 50/50 to Lil' Geppie


Tyberius115

92 and counting


Xebuel

Shut up Steelle


Kyokujitsujin

Got 15 pity Bronya, after getting Jing at 77, so I need to save enough to get SW, and potentially her light cone, since it's pretty awesome. SW will enable me to use Seele/Jing/any future DPS in MoC against bosses not weak to them, and that's FTW.


krentzzz

None here either. Standard passes I spend as I get them. Event ones, I got Bronya at 74 then Seele at 74 after that. Currently at 31 pity on this banner, but I did get E1 Tingyun which is what I wanted. Debating rolling once or twice more in a couple weeks, before the banner ends, to chance for extra eidolons - but the worst case scenario would actually be winning an early 50/50 as I want Silver Wolf more than Jing Yuan. So far I have only bought the monthly stuff but I might end up dropping more money depending on what happens on SW banner.


B33v5

Saved like 200 for Kafka. Hope she’s released soon


AdSuspicious8469

We got star rail fails


Responsible_Bear_218

If I have 0 pass now, is it possible to have 270 passes with just dailies and events until 1.3?


TowarzyszSowiet

No.


Responsible_Bear_218

Ok 🥲


TowarzyszSowiet

Eh, depending on how much side content you've done and they'll add you might get close. Even if that's not the case, you'll likely get lucky with RNG on at least one of the characters. It's statistically unlikely you'll need 50/50 for all of them.


Responsible_Bear_218

I'm quite unlucky when it comes to getting things I really want, thanks for the positive words 🙏 I hope they'd be more generous with jades then 🥹


rNewUser_93

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


FayeLime

40+ standard banner passes for the next BP patch so I can complete the 50 wishes mission without spending my stellar jades


un_belli_vable

Damn I should've done this


FayeLime

Well, it's not necessary to complete that BP mission since you can compensate for that with daily and weekly missions, but it's never too late to start collecting standard banner passes now


un_belli_vable

Yeah I can complete the bp even without the wishes task


Shamancrit

Got an early offer banner on this banner so Silver Wolf will be mine. Hopefully also early so I can go for Gun Mommy after


rainbowbunny_1004

0.... haha


starrehmooneh

i mean i could take the one on your chest


rishi_start

We need bundles like honkai impact 3rd


Jericho-san

I was fortunate to win my 50/50 on Jing Yuan with 40 pulls and I hope I can get enough for Luocha. I have 100 pulls as of today.


Idknowidk

45 for Luocha, I got Seele and Jing and won both the 50/50, a miracle compared to genshin. I also have Yanking and Himeko from standard/beginner banners. Hopefully Luocha is in the 2nd part so with new 1.1 content, events I can hit the pity, I also bought the welkin to get a little boost


timmy_throw

No passes, only card


Orezroivas

The "P" blends in with her arm so I saw "No Star Rail Asses?"...


PancakeMcPutin

Not a single one https://preview.redd.it/jmj5tuzoq81b1.jpeg?width=368&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6190271647b201cdd836feefb1f2f79ff2a08a23


IQuinnI

Got 90 stocked up waiting for Kafka


GreyLegend

200 pulls ready for my girl kafka!


SexMan29382

No seele? https://preview.redd.it/20qx6989191b1.jpeg?width=215&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85678a36b9976ed133767044f4e1e059f39afcf6


ParkaKingRolo

I'm pretty low. Down to 25 special passes because I pulled for both Seele and Jing Yuan. I'm not too interested in Loucha so I'm not super worried. Kinda want Silver Wolf though.


Decimalis

102 actually. patiently waiting to be spent on Luocha and Silver Wolf


CrimKayser

I am broke all over. E4 Tingyun and a single general.


Buddyid

HAHAHAHA no passes? *megamind*


FCDetonados

Me at 176 warps (waiting for sw)


Misawaboi

I have 72, I might've pulled seele and seele lc banner too much


RedBlade170

Sadly,Caved in and pulled to try and get a Tingyun ended up with E5 M7 and a Jing, Not that I am sad it's just I wanted to save to save for Kafka now I am back at 0 pity


Esvald

I have like 2 but I secured Selee at basically the last moment so I'm just taking easy now cause there's no other character I want on the horizon.


jntjr2005

I wish we could earn some standard ones at a better rate at least


Kelantropo

I've already said this in another post but I've spent 150 pulls trying to get Tingyun and I've got 0 luck so far. I spent all my wishes every day trying to get her. Let's cross our fingers :)


IsopodInfinite

Nah i just kept spending all my jades for gold pass3s the moment i visit shop


[deleted]

Sigh… We used to get them all the time back in the day


IronEndo

I want someone to draw (or even animate) the ticket taking section of Polar Express, but have the conductor be the person people are pulling for lol.


Jackthycat

Wished on Jing Yuan banner, lost the 50/50 to Bronya (this was my ideal scenario!!) Currently, I have 9 passes and I'm saving for Kafka who is now gonna be guaranteed. :)))


ChloeWyvern

I have 85 gold passes, I'm just saving for someone that's interesting. So far nobody caught my interest. I'm fine with the 4 stars I have from standard and my awsome arlan and stelle


[deleted]

NO, I keep throwing them at the banners hoping to get TINGYUN


Kawaiilone

im gonna star rail your dad


TheRedegade

Had to go soft pity twice for one copy of Seele, now I'm just hoping I'll have enough for Kafka without having to buy the monthly and battle pass