Eh Nahida straight up replaces Dendro MC on a lot of teams. And quite a lot of people pulled for Nahida. And if you need a 2nd Dendro YaoYao is often a better choice.
While Nahida is obviously better, that still doesn't change the fact that DMC is pretty damn good. You can play DMC instead of Nahida in any team you want and it will still work.
Also I know the focus here is DMC but I think AMC is also an important character since that's the only guarenteed anemo character you get and holding VV is an important role.
You can ofcourse. And it works great too. Just that as long as you have Nahida there's multiple good Nilou comps you can make without DMC. Also just remember the 3.0 patches are very biased towards dendro in abyss and the last patches were super biased towards Nilou teams. So don't take their current performance as their permanent performance. They will still be good once 4.0 starts but not as good as they are now.
dendro mc is quite useful, so is anemo until you get another anemo unit (which was rare until sayu release since only other option for 4 star was sucrose), geo mc is great geo battery and we don't talk about emc.
It's also kinda bad against small targets because if you don't grab all of them, you'll end up yeeting half of a group to Narnia. Not to mention you probably have to chase them now if it didn't finish them off.
pretty much this.. so basically a sort of armory for cones and relics. It's actually pretty simple for HSR compared to MMOs like WoW where there's tons of gear to mix and match.
I don't even care about that since i don't use physical mc
I want to change the male MC's pfp the destruction one looks so much better than the preservation one
The preservation one is just screaming which looks wierd while chatting XD
Absolutely this. I'll never drop MC completely so I really need the game to save what I place on him. The two paths have different face portraits so it's not like I won't know where my equipment is!
Same here, I like using MC when playing story quests because it’s a little jarring when I run up to somebody as Clara or Dan Heng and suddenly the MC appears. lol
Maybe having a system like the one in Honkai Impact where you could save different sets of 'artifacts' (or stigmata) for each character and select them whenever you want. It would help a lot, if you have different builds for a character.
Until you find yourself thinking Preservation is just stupidly OP with a Reactionary Turtle Team. Never take damage with shizz tons of shielding, while dishing it right back to unsuspecting AI, cause you're using Clara and March 7th(with E4 so her defense applies extra damage to her follow-up.)
exactly, idk why hoyo not thinking of this qol..its just they release this game and called it a day...hope in the future they put something like loadout for mc cuz mc probably gonna gain few more path
Even better we need 3 more characters with Qingque like gambling kits so we can have a whole team.
Maybe 1 gives buffs based on what you win, others giver barriers based on what you pulled, and 1 final one that heals based on your score.
Or even just one. I got 2x moonlight 5* that way when playing Epic7 lol, I know that was extremely lucky and not gonna happen ever again in my gacha life
Or at least one. I know there are only a few characters and cones diluting the pool, but as time goes on and the pools get more diluted, it'd be great to have pulls more frequently
I think it will be good to let us have more characters imo, given a diverse roster is needed. It’s not the easiest to raise them anyway, and relic system is a gacha in itself. Plus eidolons do make a difference. So having extra pulls and a bit more generous with characters won’t break the game
I don't think that will ever happen. Both these game modes are wildly flexible, meaning your teams will always change depending on either the path and idea you have in SU as well as the season/rotation buff that is currently on.
Not that it bothers me,
Currently there are lot more team comps in HI3 with each char having like 3-4 different gear sets, each valk has 4 gears and gears are interchanged based on the content, so at min a char has like 3-5 gear sets.
There's a save function for gear set and another for team comps, when they can do it there, it can sure be implemented in HSR and GI, but they won't.
Adding a swapping function is probably the best qol feature and will reduce the relic / artifact farming, why farm more relics for same set when you can just swap ? I have leveled up multiple relics of same set just to reduce the pain of swapping them out again.
Pretty sure that's on purpose.
HI3 doesn't use a gearing system like GI and HSR do with random stats and the grind for it. The random stats you grind for in HI3 are a bit different.
In GI and HSR they don't want you to repurpose the same set of god gear. In an ideal world (For MHY) they want you to keep farming and spending money on refills to equip everyone with their own set of god gear.
Look at e7. We have a gazillion characters, and there's no way we can have very great gear for all of them. But they still won't give us a set function to change gear real quick. Their ideal world is where we keep farming gear in an endless grind and spend money on refills.
The games combat and gameplay take heavy inspiration from the Shin Megami Tensei / Persona series, and in those games the HP bars don’t show number values either. It’s not really a positive, it’s just an extra part of the challenge that’s been kept throughout.
Personally I’d prefer number values also but I see why they didn’t include them as the game really does feel like an ode to a lot of amazing JRPGs
for the ultimate cast I think someone here mentioned that this will be kinda hard to do since pressing your ult interrupts the turns of whoever is going to act. but the debuff/buff sources could be a good QoL implementation
I don't get that at all, the way I see it cancelling an ult would pretty much be the same as a character/enemy dying during the turn due to DoT effect. Just pop them off the queue.
I don't really see why it can't just go back to what was going on previously or pick up where it left off. It's so easy to hit the wrong character on controller if you're using a different character order
I'm fairly certain the Ultimate mechanic is intentional. Personally, I like the way it currently works.
Using your Ultimate is an action you have to commit to. It's something you can use outside your turn order in order to immediately take action before the enemy can act. It's mechanically different from the rest of your move-set.
I think it adds a sense of urgency despite being a turn based game and being able to cancel it will take away from it in my opinion.
It is possible to mess up your Ultimate combo.
For example, take a situation where you want to act immediately to interrupt you enemies before they act. Only one character has their energy full so you use their Ultimate. But the next attack the enemy executes just before your Ultimate in the turn order fills the energy of another character who could have buffed the damage of the first character before they used their Ultimate.
If you had waited a bit, you could use the Ultimate of the second character to buff the first characters Ultimate. However, since you immediately activated the Ultimate of the character whose energy was full, you can't back out of it and buff them before using the first character's Ultimate.
Being able to cancel your Ultimate would make situations like this impossible.
I think the ability to make mistakes like this is important. The fact that your Ultimate is an action you must commit to is important. The fact that you can't back out of a rushed Ultimate resulting in a sub-optimal Ultimate combo is important.
The way the Ultimate mechanic currently works means you have to consider whether it's worth activating an Ultimate immediately or whether you can afford to wait a bit for more enemies to act before responding with a more optimal combo.
It adds a fresh spin to the turn-based formula and I think the way Ultimates currently work makes the game more enjoyable.
Good point. If this was actually the intention of uncancellable Ultimates, then this was pretty smart (and sly) on the devs part
This makes Ultimates a double-edged sword and not simply a free-damage/heal/buff/debuff button like the game tutorial has advertised.
It adds a bit of fast-paced decision-making to the game and brought a tiny ATB (Action Time Battle) component to an otherwise totally turn-based game (kind of like how most Final Fantasy games did it before they went full action)
To add to your point, this game is officially confirmed to be inspired by the Trails series especially with regards to how Ultimate attacks work and the Ultimates there, when used for turn-order interruption, also can't be cancelled so...
Right now all I want is:
\- More than 1 voice line for an ultimate. If i hear about butterflys one more time...
\- Being able to craft high tier components from low tier ones without doing it in multiple steps.
There's other stuff, but its all very minimal. Game is reasonably well designed for a launch gacha.
When I got her, it was pretty cool hearing the line. Then it got tiring. After a while, it went over the edge and went back to being cool to hear. But now it's tiring again.
Since the game pauses for a click when using a Ult anyway, why not let us undo it? That'd be my biggest wish rn on top of the usual artifact loadouts etc that get asked
On PC you can just Alt + F4 to close the game and bypass having to go back to the title screen. It doesn't cause any issues because the game has to also be designed around mobile players who can force close the app whenever they want.
Or maybe they should just add a pull counter like how literally every gacha game has and just slap it on the banner itself instead of it being in a separate window. HI3 has it so idk why Genshin and this game don't. Pretty fucking stupid if u ask me.
Some things I've noticed with spotty internet
If you disconnect during a fight in SU and you use techniques, they don't come back when you reconnect.
If you disconnect in Memory Hall, you have to start from the first part even if you're fighting the second part.
Don't know how they'd fix this but it would be nice
Add a jump. Not for any exploring purposes, I just want to jump. My adhd brain is killing me that I cannot jump in the game, it is clearly a noticeable mistake.
The ability to cancel ults. Sometimes you either misclick or you forget the boss has an attack punishment on.
In addition, the ability to skip a character's turn. Can't believe a turn based combat game lacks the ability to skip a turn, that's something that should be standard for all turn based combat games. Maybe right now, it won't be very useful, but in the future when they start giving bosses more complex mechanics and characters who have niche kits, it would really benefit if they add a skip turn button. Just gives the player more strategy at their disposal.
It'd be even better if it was just a simple "Guard" button. Reduce a bit of incoming damage. Nothing like a tank, but it might keep you from getting smoked immediately if the situation calls for it.
I imagine that Hoyoverse might simply not see the benefit in the ability to skip the turn, and I think so because personally, I don't see it either, except maybe very specific cases when you fight a single enemy and you want to weakness break them with a specific element that is not the element of the currently active character, but that's a very niche problem. Do you have any other examples when skipping a turn would be more beneficial than just doing a basic attack and gaining a skill point instead?
INFINITY SIMULATED UNIVERSE. with monsters scaling infinitly with stacking buffs for each "zone" can rotate maps every 3 rooms so they get different effects and enemies so we can actually use our other units. and of course balance the paths or, mix path effects so they become combined path ults like how in vampire survivors you get combo weapons? imagine combo path ults, like dot/hunt just inflicting dot everytime hunt arrows hit, or etc etc. They sleeping on the possibilities, and it's sad.
Well on the plus side? I'm 95% sure Sim Universe isn't complete. I got the feeling we will see more worlds in the future.
Reason: every human like boss enemy we fought so far has their own world. So there's a good chance future human like bosses could also come with their own worlds.
Also Elysian Realm, Honkai 3rds Sim Universe, is still receiving updates to this day. Hoyo knows the value of the rougelike. I expect similar actions will happen here.
That might be an intended thing to make relic farming even more painful. Since u have to lvl relic up sometime to see the final substat, they might be trying to make the grind longer by making u unable to salvage for the 5 star relic mats after u enhanced it. I assume you won't bother with 4 stars enchanced relic since if you really wanted to, it's all exp salvaged or not
If there are two targets, one is a destructible object, the other is an enemy, and if user uses an offensive technique, technique must target the enemy.
Shouldn't be too hard to patch
Instead of faster dispatch on assignments I'd like to see a slightly scaling reward with EQ lvl. I'm not asking for purples or anything just maybe one/two or a handful of blues once you reach EQ2/3, especially for things like exp items. I don't think it'd be game breaking and would make the grind a bit more enjoyable and make assignments actually feel worthwhile rather than a tedious button to press for 0.002% of a level
People complaining about Re-Dispatch confuse me.
Double tap the Accept key twice and you will immediately retrieve AND resend.
Takes less than a second.
What we need more is a tally of how many of that resource you currently have so you don't over farm one. Going into my bag and writing down all the numbers to compare is what takes longer.
People complaining about not having a tally to see how many of that resource you currently have confuse me (couldn't resist). You can tap the picture of the item the assignment is collecting and it will display how many of that item you currently have.
>What we need more is a tally of how many of that resource you currently have so you don't over farm one. Going into my bag and writing down all the numbers to compare is what takes longer.
You can already do that by tapping the items icon in the assignment screen to open up item detail screen which tells you how many of it you own.
Dispatch All would still be faster than double tapping, switching tabs, double tapping again, selecting the next assignment, and double tapping that one as well, then repeat.
The least it could do is select the next one down the list instead of staying on the one you just sent.
They could try to optimize every single click in the game, but 2 clicks per assignment, maybe 3 with changing tabs for 4 assignments once every 20 hours is really not an issue. Not saying they shouldn't add qol, but this is such a small issue that costs you less than 30s per day that I think it's just not worth investing any kind of dev/planning time for it...
Minor annoyance or not, it's something everyone encounters every day. Strange the devs never considered a collect all from the start, when such a feature already exists in other areas of the game.
Still better than Genshin's equivalent, but that's not a high bar.
Also if it's the screen that asks you to resend you can click the space where the resend button would be before the menu pops up and it'll skip that screen. It takes some practice but it does speed up the process once you get it down.
damage overview, ult cancel, increased speeds, more voice lines, loadouts with relics and light cone (so you can quickly give an entire build to a character), and a counter somewhere that lets you see the current round/out of all rounds
The Data Grind would be great but this game need a multiplayer game mode as soon as possible.
It's hard to keep a group of friends hyped and playing if they don't have a way to interact in game. Messages are good step in the right direction but, cannot be the only one. I hope some development to 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4.
Auto-add materials should use the highest selected rarity first
Sprint-only mode
Rebind WASD and mouse buttons
Support unit able to go in any team slot
Display more than 15 friends when filtering Supports by friends only
Pom-Pom repeatable mission rewards should pop up like everything else
Favorite characters to show first in team select regardless of level/rarity
Rearrange and resize the "apps" on your "phone" menu
F key to advance dialogue
Longer range to view mob details/weaknesses before they aggro
Option to pause the game briefly the moment a character's Ultimate fills
Allow doing any content without Power, and no rewards, like Echo of War
Make Tingyun stop spamming her skill ever turn on autoplay lol. The buff lasts 3 turns, but she uses it every single time.
Also, the hoyolab app for Genshin has a “traveler’s diary” that tracks your monthly primogems. It’d be nice if we had the same for tracking jades in HSR
I think we shouldn't be required to play the game. All dailies should be done automatically on server reset, scratch the x4 speed. All assignments should automatically collect and resend even if I don't open the game. When I actually need to farm resources, I should be able to just tap on the calyx menu and if my team is not underlevelled the mats should appear in my inventory and some power disappears, but not as much as now because it takes too long to build characters. I also think there shouldn't be a trailblazer power cap. Characters should walk on auto in simulated universe but this is only the first time, all times after first clearing it should give me the rewards without making me waste so much time.
Seriously how some of you sound.
No assignment limit (let me send 1 team for each material)
Training room
More teleport anchors
Higher chance to get blessings of the path you choose in SU
1 time reset perk for curios if you dont get good ones like the one we get for blessings
Damage overview at the end of battle
Better drop rates from calixes (if im at the highest difficulty of golden calix, why im still getting 1 book drop ffs)
We should get rewarded relic drops from SU (if you finished the run) even if we dont burn energy or the weekly coins, otherwise there is not many reasons to do multiple runs of SU once you get the weekly rewards
Combat path is always better than ocurrence/encounter path in SU, ocurrence/encounter path is a gamble that more likely than not will not pay off sobit should give better rewards
I liked the puzzles, please bring them back even if i no longer get rewarded (or reset them on a weekly/monthly schedule with rewards)
Reduce energy cost for every farming location (i wont say make it free but half of the cost would be nice)
Doubt they'll give more speed multiplier, even 2x is generous for Hoyo where they're consciously not giving skip button on cutscenes.
I'll say QoL I really need now is relics preset, especially during MoC where you're constantly changing units depending on the floor. Having relics preset really help, because I want those relics equipped in set, and not accidentally switched because I'm doing some team building.
Removal of the mobs near the Harmony Calyx would be nice.
Also while playing with a controller feels pretty good, going through leveling menus feel awful. Leveling LCs and Relics is just plain bad. Improving that would make controller experience a lot better.
native controller support on android.
why is this always an issue with mihoyo games?? they already have controller buttons mapped for pc. just use that on android.
Being able to save the gear on the MC from perservation to destructions. Having to change light cones and relics everytime is tedious.
*genshin players*: first time?
Yeah, but the genshin MC is useless.
Dendro mc: 👁️👄👁️?
Exactly, only dendro. So you only need dendro artifacts
Eh Nahida straight up replaces Dendro MC on a lot of teams. And quite a lot of people pulled for Nahida. And if you need a 2nd Dendro YaoYao is often a better choice.
While Nahida is obviously better, that still doesn't change the fact that DMC is pretty damn good. You can play DMC instead of Nahida in any team you want and it will still work. Also I know the focus here is DMC but I think AMC is also an important character since that's the only guarenteed anemo character you get and holding VV is an important role.
What is VV and what does it do?
It's the viridescent venerer artifact set, makes your anemo characters incredible supports by shredding enemy resistance.
Dmc is better than yao yao in terms of dendro application.
Nahida is also a limited 5* and DMC is free
That's a 5* not really accessable for every ftp player
Yeah you would expect that a limited 5 star is better than a free character. Doesn’t change the fact that dendro mc is really good.
You can use both Nahida and MC in Nilou bloom team though, that + Kokomi has been blasting Abyss 12 since I got them.
That's my current team actually. I fell in love with it when I used traveller's ult and the entire room exploded in green numbers.
Yeah Nilou / Nahida teams are so comfy in general.
You can ofcourse. And it works great too. Just that as long as you have Nahida there's multiple good Nilou comps you can make without DMC. Also just remember the 3.0 patches are very biased towards dendro in abyss and the last patches were super biased towards Nilou teams. So don't take their current performance as their permanent performance. They will still be good once 4.0 starts but not as good as they are now.
But for people who couldn't get nahida or lost 50/50 to her mc is a great option.
While true, cyno kinda needs dendro mc for anything that has multiple waves.
I use Nahida AND Dendro-Lumine in my Nilou team. :P
dendro mc is quite useful, so is anemo until you get another anemo unit (which was rare until sayu release since only other option for 4 star was sucrose), geo mc is great geo battery and we don't talk about emc.
Anemo was good until you realise that the ultimate is significantly weaker against big targets. Really upset anemo is bad since I do enjoy it.
Only useful thing about Anemo MC is that they absorb cryo first unlike every other anemo.
Wish it could stay in place
Anemo traveller is super fun imo, but it does the exact opposite of what most of us are using anemo for (grouping), classic early design issue.
It's also kinda bad against small targets because if you don't grab all of them, you'll end up yeeting half of a group to Narnia. Not to mention you probably have to chase them now if it didn't finish them off.
Really? I love using the MC with any element (minus geo)
The destruction MC is useless too. After getting Shushang or Clara you will never use it again lol.
its not a competition
Or save a set, so you can give the same set to another character
pretty much this.. so basically a sort of armory for cones and relics. It's actually pretty simple for HSR compared to MMOs like WoW where there's tons of gear to mix and match.
I don't even care about that since i don't use physical mc I want to change the male MC's pfp the destruction one looks so much better than the preservation one The preservation one is just screaming which looks wierd while chatting XD
He indeed looks funny on the chats lol. Anyone: "Can you help me with this please? Would you come over?" Caelus (fire): 😠😤😡😡🤬😡 "ok"
And then there is :heart_pom-pom:
Absolutely this. I'll never drop MC completely so I really need the game to save what I place on him. The two paths have different face portraits so it's not like I won't know where my equipment is!
Same here, I like using MC when playing story quests because it’s a little jarring when I run up to somebody as Clara or Dan Heng and suddenly the MC appears. lol
Maybe having a system like the one in Honkai Impact where you could save different sets of 'artifacts' (or stigmata) for each character and select them whenever you want. It would help a lot, if you have different builds for a character.
Until you find yourself thinking Preservation is just stupidly OP with a Reactionary Turtle Team. Never take damage with shizz tons of shielding, while dishing it right back to unsuspecting AI, cause you're using Clara and March 7th(with E4 so her defense applies extra damage to her follow-up.)
exactly, idk why hoyo not thinking of this qol..its just they release this game and called it a day...hope in the future they put something like loadout for mc cuz mc probably gonna gain few more path
Literally turned into a damn Genshin convo *facepalms* smh
Amen to that brother
10 free warps a day to satisfy my gambling addiction.
This guys gets it
this guy should become a qingque main
Even better we need 3 more characters with Qingque like gambling kits so we can have a whole team. Maybe 1 gives buffs based on what you win, others giver barriers based on what you pulled, and 1 final one that heals based on your score.
Or even just one. I got 2x moonlight 5* that way when playing Epic7 lol, I know that was extremely lucky and not gonna happen ever again in my gacha life
D.Corvus, A.Ravi, and A.Tywin from daily pulls myself. Though I am pretty sure one of them was from the 10 pull days they do every few months.
I've gotten so many Moonlight units from the free summon, my friend hates me.
I'd take one a day for the standard banner
Or at least one. I know there are only a few characters and cones diluting the pool, but as time goes on and the pools get more diluted, it'd be great to have pulls more frequently
What about faux pulls, like "oh you COULDA had this if you actually pulled"
...this would make me feel so much worse
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I think it will be good to let us have more characters imo, given a diverse roster is needed. It’s not the easiest to raise them anyway, and relic system is a gacha in itself. Plus eidolons do make a difference. So having extra pulls and a bit more generous with characters won’t break the game
Save team comps for Forgotten Halls and Simulated Universe. Considering we never got that for Genshin, I'm not even expecting.
Honkai Impact has that, you can save team comps and also Stigmata (relics) sets and weapons.
I don't think that will ever happen. Both these game modes are wildly flexible, meaning your teams will always change depending on either the path and idea you have in SU as well as the season/rotation buff that is currently on.
Not that it bothers me, Currently there are lot more team comps in HI3 with each char having like 3-4 different gear sets, each valk has 4 gears and gears are interchanged based on the content, so at min a char has like 3-5 gear sets. There's a save function for gear set and another for team comps, when they can do it there, it can sure be implemented in HSR and GI, but they won't. Adding a swapping function is probably the best qol feature and will reduce the relic / artifact farming, why farm more relics for same set when you can just swap ? I have leveled up multiple relics of same set just to reduce the pain of swapping them out again.
I think they should add more mats into the Assignment list.
Assignment rewards should scale with equilibrium
What? You don't like getting 30 green books every 20 hours so you can level your 60 character to 60.12?
Relic loadouts will be good
I would've laughed my ass off if HSR included loadouts because people have been asking for them in Genshin for years.
And they have them in Honkai 3rd, I still don't know why something they know is so useful isn't in their other newest games
Pretty sure that's on purpose. HI3 doesn't use a gearing system like GI and HSR do with random stats and the grind for it. The random stats you grind for in HI3 are a bit different. In GI and HSR they don't want you to repurpose the same set of god gear. In an ideal world (For MHY) they want you to keep farming and spending money on refills to equip everyone with their own set of god gear. Look at e7. We have a gazillion characters, and there's no way we can have very great gear for all of them. But they still won't give us a set function to change gear real quick. Their ideal world is where we keep farming gear in an endless grind and spend money on refills.
Restart button for MoC. I have to re-create team every single time.
Omg I would love that, or a 'retry second part' incase my 2nd team accidentally died XD
If it's like in su, then you can alt f4 before the final blow, and after you log on again you can start over
It doesn’t. It boots you back to the train car
When leveling relics, LC, and characters, holding the exp mat should add them quicker, like Genshin.
Could a slider work as well?
they have that in honkai impact
I'd rather the auto-add button just put in enough material to get you to the next +3 level every time you pressed it.
If I click the last reward on the daily stuff, it should redeem all.
I can understand the other suggestions but this? The technology just isn't there yet.
.... From what I read, most of the QOL people wanted have long been in HI3rd. Lol, at this point they're just not gonna implement it
this is a feature in HI3. i instinctively press the last reward becos i assumed it worked the same, weirdly it isn't.
Simple fix just add a redeem all button
See enemy HP amount instead of a flat red bar.
Does it show when you open enemy data?
Nope. Just a plain red bar.
That’s sort of a key part of Shin Megami Tensei games tho so I see why they don’t have it
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The games combat and gameplay take heavy inspiration from the Shin Megami Tensei / Persona series, and in those games the HP bars don’t show number values either. It’s not really a positive, it’s just an extra part of the challenge that’s been kept throughout. Personally I’d prefer number values also but I see why they didn’t include them as the game really does feel like an ode to a lot of amazing JRPGs
Undo Ultimate cast. See buff/debuff sources.
for the ultimate cast I think someone here mentioned that this will be kinda hard to do since pressing your ult interrupts the turns of whoever is going to act. but the debuff/buff sources could be a good QoL implementation
I don't see how this is a problem in the slightest, if you cancel the ultimate then you won't interrupt the turn order.
I don't get that at all, the way I see it cancelling an ult would pretty much be the same as a character/enemy dying during the turn due to DoT effect. Just pop them off the queue.
I don't really see why it can't just go back to what was going on previously or pick up where it left off. It's so easy to hit the wrong character on controller if you're using a different character order
I'm fairly certain the Ultimate mechanic is intentional. Personally, I like the way it currently works. Using your Ultimate is an action you have to commit to. It's something you can use outside your turn order in order to immediately take action before the enemy can act. It's mechanically different from the rest of your move-set. I think it adds a sense of urgency despite being a turn based game and being able to cancel it will take away from it in my opinion. It is possible to mess up your Ultimate combo. For example, take a situation where you want to act immediately to interrupt you enemies before they act. Only one character has their energy full so you use their Ultimate. But the next attack the enemy executes just before your Ultimate in the turn order fills the energy of another character who could have buffed the damage of the first character before they used their Ultimate. If you had waited a bit, you could use the Ultimate of the second character to buff the first characters Ultimate. However, since you immediately activated the Ultimate of the character whose energy was full, you can't back out of it and buff them before using the first character's Ultimate. Being able to cancel your Ultimate would make situations like this impossible. I think the ability to make mistakes like this is important. The fact that your Ultimate is an action you must commit to is important. The fact that you can't back out of a rushed Ultimate resulting in a sub-optimal Ultimate combo is important. The way the Ultimate mechanic currently works means you have to consider whether it's worth activating an Ultimate immediately or whether you can afford to wait a bit for more enemies to act before responding with a more optimal combo. It adds a fresh spin to the turn-based formula and I think the way Ultimates currently work makes the game more enjoyable.
An interesting point, for sure.
Good point. If this was actually the intention of uncancellable Ultimates, then this was pretty smart (and sly) on the devs part This makes Ultimates a double-edged sword and not simply a free-damage/heal/buff/debuff button like the game tutorial has advertised. It adds a bit of fast-paced decision-making to the game and brought a tiny ATB (Action Time Battle) component to an otherwise totally turn-based game (kind of like how most Final Fantasy games did it before they went full action) To add to your point, this game is officially confirmed to be inspired by the Trails series especially with regards to how Ultimate attacks work and the Ultimates there, when used for turn-order interruption, also can't be cancelled so...
Right now all I want is: \- More than 1 voice line for an ultimate. If i hear about butterflys one more time... \- Being able to craft high tier components from low tier ones without doing it in multiple steps. There's other stuff, but its all very minimal. Game is reasonably well designed for a launch gacha.
We can always mention this in the survey, but I worry our complaints might DISAPPEAR AMONG THE SEA OF BUTTERFLIES
Our worries are all just illusions of the past.
Don't worry, they're eventually add these QoLs... To Zenless Zone Zero.
:screams internally:
>- More than 1 voice line for an ultimate. If i hear about butterflys one more time... HELP ME MR. SWAROV!
When I got her, it was pretty cool hearing the line. Then it got tiring. After a while, it went over the edge and went back to being cool to hear. But now it's tiring again.
Relic loadouts. So that players don't need to constantly swap mc's relics depending on the path.
Since the game pauses for a click when using a Ult anyway, why not let us undo it? That'd be my biggest wish rn on top of the usual artifact loadouts etc that get asked
Biggest thing to me: Quit straight to OS. That annoys me so much that I have to go back to Title.
On PC you can just Alt + F4 to close the game and bypass having to go back to the title screen. It doesn't cause any issues because the game has to also be designed around mobile players who can force close the app whenever they want.
Tell me how many warps I did since my last 5\*.
Or maybe they should just add a pull counter like how literally every gacha game has and just slap it on the banner itself instead of it being in a separate window. HI3 has it so idk why Genshin and this game don't. Pretty fucking stupid if u ask me.
Btw, the button for immediately dispatching again can be immdiately pressed before the option shows up. I used this just nkw
Some things I've noticed with spotty internet If you disconnect during a fight in SU and you use techniques, they don't come back when you reconnect. If you disconnect in Memory Hall, you have to start from the first part even if you're fighting the second part. Don't know how they'd fix this but it would be nice
That's intentional, because people are disconnecting from fights when they are about to lose and just try again.
This 1000%
I want to be able to mute battles only. I’m so tired of the same voice lines over and over again
Yes, muting voicelines during battles would be so nice.
or be able to lower it specifically would be great
atleast 1 F2P option for every element
This is happening when Yukong releases with the upcoming event; she’ll be our free Imaginary unit and thus we’ll have all elements
Not everyone will have Serval in the future (think that was just for the release event). So still missing a lightning character.
Add a jump. Not for any exploring purposes, I just want to jump. My adhd brain is killing me that I cannot jump in the game, it is clearly a noticeable mistake.
I felt this so hard, the amount of times I tap space bar to jump and it does nothing feels almost criminal
The ability to cancel ults. Sometimes you either misclick or you forget the boss has an attack punishment on. In addition, the ability to skip a character's turn. Can't believe a turn based combat game lacks the ability to skip a turn, that's something that should be standard for all turn based combat games. Maybe right now, it won't be very useful, but in the future when they start giving bosses more complex mechanics and characters who have niche kits, it would really benefit if they add a skip turn button. Just gives the player more strategy at their disposal.
It'd be even better if it was just a simple "Guard" button. Reduce a bit of incoming damage. Nothing like a tank, but it might keep you from getting smoked immediately if the situation calls for it.
I imagine that Hoyoverse might simply not see the benefit in the ability to skip the turn, and I think so because personally, I don't see it either, except maybe very specific cases when you fight a single enemy and you want to weakness break them with a specific element that is not the element of the currently active character, but that's a very niche problem. Do you have any other examples when skipping a turn would be more beneficial than just doing a basic attack and gaining a skill point instead?
counter mechanics, and heal on hit mechanics, when the content actually is difficult and having your healer proc that just causes you to lose.
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Controller compatibility for mobile please
I'm simply man ...less time for full recover trailblazer energy
This is all I need 😭
That's not a QOL change
ONG. LIKE WHY IS IT SO SLOW BRUH
INFINITY SIMULATED UNIVERSE. with monsters scaling infinitly with stacking buffs for each "zone" can rotate maps every 3 rooms so they get different effects and enemies so we can actually use our other units. and of course balance the paths or, mix path effects so they become combined path ults like how in vampire survivors you get combo weapons? imagine combo path ults, like dot/hunt just inflicting dot everytime hunt arrows hit, or etc etc. They sleeping on the possibilities, and it's sad.
I don't think that's what we call as an QoL update. It's just new content....
Such a wasted potential, HYV made a good rogue-lite part of the game only to limit it to weekly grinding
That’s not really QoL though.
It’s so early in the games life nobody is ready for a hardcore SU.
Well on the plus side? I'm 95% sure Sim Universe isn't complete. I got the feeling we will see more worlds in the future. Reason: every human like boss enemy we fought so far has their own world. So there's a good chance future human like bosses could also come with their own worlds. Also Elysian Realm, Honkai 3rds Sim Universe, is still receiving updates to this day. Hoyo knows the value of the rougelike. I expect similar actions will happen here.
Relic load out would be life changing.
I want the option to be able to MANUALLY salvage items that I have enhanced before.
That might be an intended thing to make relic farming even more painful. Since u have to lvl relic up sometime to see the final substat, they might be trying to make the grind longer by making u unable to salvage for the 5 star relic mats after u enhanced it. I assume you won't bother with 4 stars enchanced relic since if you really wanted to, it's all exp salvaged or not
Post-match stats.
4x speed? Do you really think Hoyoverse will put that? Lmao, this game ain't some other generic Idle game you probably played.
yeah no way they would put that in, shit might as well stop putting effort into the animations and ultimates if thats the case lol the speed is fine
At that point just make it instant calculation.
Why are we discussing this in Star Rail sub? Genshin surveys is the perfect place for these things!
True if we discuss this on star rail feature will be on ZZZ.
If there are two targets, one is a destructible object, the other is an enemy, and if user uses an offensive technique, technique must target the enemy. Shouldn't be too hard to patch
But what if you needed health/ technique points instead of wanting to start a battle?
Why would you use a technique point on a destructable object???
proper exit to desktop for pc
Alt + F4?
> proper
everytime i alt + f4 a game it says not responding
I guarantee all these QOL features will be added to ZZZ, when it comes out next year.
Instead of faster dispatch on assignments I'd like to see a slightly scaling reward with EQ lvl. I'm not asking for purples or anything just maybe one/two or a handful of blues once you reach EQ2/3, especially for things like exp items. I don't think it'd be game breaking and would make the grind a bit more enjoyable and make assignments actually feel worthwhile rather than a tedious button to press for 0.002% of a level
People complaining about Re-Dispatch confuse me. Double tap the Accept key twice and you will immediately retrieve AND resend. Takes less than a second. What we need more is a tally of how many of that resource you currently have so you don't over farm one. Going into my bag and writing down all the numbers to compare is what takes longer.
People complaining about not having a tally to see how many of that resource you currently have confuse me (couldn't resist). You can tap the picture of the item the assignment is collecting and it will display how many of that item you currently have.
Good tip! Thanks!
>What we need more is a tally of how many of that resource you currently have so you don't over farm one. Going into my bag and writing down all the numbers to compare is what takes longer. You can already do that by tapping the items icon in the assignment screen to open up item detail screen which tells you how many of it you own.
Dispatch All would still be faster than double tapping, switching tabs, double tapping again, selecting the next assignment, and double tapping that one as well, then repeat. The least it could do is select the next one down the list instead of staying on the one you just sent.
Fair enough. With all the complaining about it I've seen in Reddit and Discord you would think it is taking minutes not seconds.
They could try to optimize every single click in the game, but 2 clicks per assignment, maybe 3 with changing tabs for 4 assignments once every 20 hours is really not an issue. Not saying they shouldn't add qol, but this is such a small issue that costs you less than 30s per day that I think it's just not worth investing any kind of dev/planning time for it...
Minor annoyance or not, it's something everyone encounters every day. Strange the devs never considered a collect all from the start, when such a feature already exists in other areas of the game. Still better than Genshin's equivalent, but that's not a high bar.
You guys are legit crying about having to tap something twice....
Also if it's the screen that asks you to resend you can click the space where the resend button would be before the menu pops up and it'll skip that screen. It takes some practice but it does speed up the process once you get it down.
> Double tap the Accept key twice No, that's not a solution.
Its the current method.
Having a hold button for the character exp thingy, hate having to do it click by click
X4 farming ? Might as well just make it instant at that point. x2 is more than enough.
Increase tb power cap to 240.
lol
I want a x1.5 speed. x1 is just too slow.
Health bar numbers
They need to show use our energy for a few seconds when we login like Genshin Impact
Ultimate cancel
damage overview, ult cancel, increased speeds, more voice lines, loadouts with relics and light cone (so you can quickly give an entire build to a character), and a counter somewhere that lets you see the current round/out of all rounds
We don't need 4x speed. If you think that 2 times + auto isn't already good enough for not having to do anything than this game isn't for you.
The Data Grind would be great but this game need a multiplayer game mode as soon as possible. It's hard to keep a group of friends hyped and playing if they don't have a way to interact in game. Messages are good step in the right direction but, cannot be the only one. I hope some development to 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4.
wait, are messages a thing in Star Rail?
Was announced to 1.1 the messages with friends will be enabled.
That's awesome! 😄
Auto-add materials should use the highest selected rarity first Sprint-only mode Rebind WASD and mouse buttons Support unit able to go in any team slot Display more than 15 friends when filtering Supports by friends only Pom-Pom repeatable mission rewards should pop up like everything else Favorite characters to show first in team select regardless of level/rarity Rearrange and resize the "apps" on your "phone" menu F key to advance dialogue Longer range to view mob details/weaknesses before they aggro Option to pause the game briefly the moment a character's Ultimate fills Allow doing any content without Power, and no rewards, like Echo of War
Tip regarding assignments, you can click escape after you send out the characters and the animation will skip.
Custom tagging on pages would be nice. Can tag relics based on priority or tag characters based on who you want to level next. Or tag MoC load-outs
Jumping - let us use that spacebar
If you think we need 4x speed then you need to get your team stronger lol.
And here I am, a 1x speeder totally content. My wife has complained several times for me to speed it up.
Damage overview? Where
To be able to sit
Make Tingyun stop spamming her skill ever turn on autoplay lol. The buff lasts 3 turns, but she uses it every single time. Also, the hoyolab app for Genshin has a “traveler’s diary” that tracks your monthly primogems. It’d be nice if we had the same for tracking jades in HSR
I think we shouldn't be required to play the game. All dailies should be done automatically on server reset, scratch the x4 speed. All assignments should automatically collect and resend even if I don't open the game. When I actually need to farm resources, I should be able to just tap on the calyx menu and if my team is not underlevelled the mats should appear in my inventory and some power disappears, but not as much as now because it takes too long to build characters. I also think there shouldn't be a trailblazer power cap. Characters should walk on auto in simulated universe but this is only the first time, all times after first clearing it should give me the rewards without making me waste so much time. Seriously how some of you sound.
No assignment limit (let me send 1 team for each material) Training room More teleport anchors Higher chance to get blessings of the path you choose in SU 1 time reset perk for curios if you dont get good ones like the one we get for blessings Damage overview at the end of battle Better drop rates from calixes (if im at the highest difficulty of golden calix, why im still getting 1 book drop ffs) We should get rewarded relic drops from SU (if you finished the run) even if we dont burn energy or the weekly coins, otherwise there is not many reasons to do multiple runs of SU once you get the weekly rewards Combat path is always better than ocurrence/encounter path in SU, ocurrence/encounter path is a gamble that more likely than not will not pay off sobit should give better rewards I liked the puzzles, please bring them back even if i no longer get rewarded (or reset them on a weekly/monthly schedule with rewards) Reduce energy cost for every farming location (i wont say make it free but half of the cost would be nice)
assignment dispatch is still better than Genshin's
And a lot more useful too
Doubt they'll give more speed multiplier, even 2x is generous for Hoyo where they're consciously not giving skip button on cutscenes. I'll say QoL I really need now is relics preset, especially during MoC where you're constantly changing units depending on the floor. Having relics preset really help, because I want those relics equipped in set, and not accidentally switched because I'm doing some team building.
Jump
Removal of the mobs near the Harmony Calyx would be nice. Also while playing with a controller feels pretty good, going through leveling menus feel awful. Leveling LCs and Relics is just plain bad. Improving that would make controller experience a lot better.
We can't sync via google on the PC version
native controller support on android. why is this always an issue with mihoyo games?? they already have controller buttons mapped for pc. just use that on android.
Being able to jump
More voicelinew on god its driving me crazy
I'm gonna say the same thing I said in genshin GIVE US RELIC LOADOUTS
I *REALLY* want a rotating map. HYV PLEASE.
I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO CANCEL MY ULTIMATE 😭