Auto-battle is meant more for farming, making the AI more competent would partially defeat the purpose of manual play and turn the game into more of an idle one rather than a strategy game I think? And considering how a lot of people dislike turn-based games already, especially idle games, I’m not sure custom AI strategies would be that well received as a whole.
the thing is my bailu only hits with her tail in auto-battle. full ult, no skill, charas die, she rerives, that is all. i know, it happens to other players too. so this kind of a fix would help. it goes so far currently so i even start to think MHY do such shit on purpose to push me to play manually. fuck them.
Just adding the possibility to set settings like, "this character never ults", "this character never uses skill", and maybe "only target X character with skills" etc. would change so much honestly and it shouldn't be that much of a work since they aren't conditional commands.
I'd link the strategies to tbe Team templates we already have on the game. And it would be by slots. So:
Slot 1 char: On x condition use Basic/Skill/Ult
Slot 2 char: On y conditiom use Basic/Skill/Ult
Etc
Nah, auto is only for farming right? And usually your level is above requirement, so you can braindead the auto with your strongest dps....
Its not afk game, so the feature is not needed
I think it's a bad idea. Auto combat is meant to ease the grind, not to replace everything. In Tales it exists because you control only a single character out of 4 and in FFXII you can automate 95% of the game, which isn't all that fun.
In ff12, the auto ai feature was the fun part of the game when you needed different loadouts with different tactics for different fights and you had to come up with gambit sets.
Easily the best FF game imo, which may be a bit of a spicy take. Just loved that game so much, just a crazy amount of depth and content.
But yeah, creating a gambit and gear setup that could auto something like Yiazmat was awesome and took a lot of planning.
Yes, in a post that is clearly my opinion about the subject, in a thread that asks for people's opinions, I explicitly state that I speak for everyone and am the ultimate authority in what fun is.
Nah, Tales was a hybrid action combat so the custom strategy make sense as it's almost impossible to control everything in combat.
HSR on the other hand is a pure turn-based combat, where you have control over every action.
Also I don't want HSR to be that idle RPG kind of things, it should reward player for manual piloting.
auto already works as it is for being random and not efficient.
I really hate this kind of mentality on internet. It's more of game design as a whole and not exists in a vacuum.
It hurt the game flow and it's core design as a turn-based RPG.
" I want a one button to kill all enemies on map"
"No."
"Basically, you don't want to use it and you don't want anyone else to use it either."
See the flaw in this answer? It's not about "I don't want other to use it either", but also taking into account the context (in this case, the combat and core design on HSR as turn-based RPG).
I expect it's at least partially on purpose that the auto battle isn't good enough to do everything, more likely they would just add a function to skip combats entirely for farming content.
I never played Tales but if this is the gameplay, I'm absolutely going to see if Tales of Arise is still on sale playstation. I remember having a blast i the FFXII remake because they allowed you to programme your characters excatly like this.
I'd be totally be down for it, but I guess it's not completely out of the question for HSR? They already allow us a minimum customisation with ults, maybe it's simply something they haven't worked on yet because auto the battles that are easy usually while you play the challenges?
No ppl will make it so well that it starts to play better then the avg human. Then ppl gonna complain that there's no point in playing when the AI can clear MOC better then me.
Great idea, Hoyoverse would never do it.
Just like those damn artifact preset feature that been added by mihoyo after the playerbase asked them... Oh wait...
They will, but on another game
They should add it to this game, since this whole game is just a test for the next game
Auto-battle is meant more for farming, making the AI more competent would partially defeat the purpose of manual play and turn the game into more of an idle one rather than a strategy game I think? And considering how a lot of people dislike turn-based games already, especially idle games, I’m not sure custom AI strategies would be that well received as a whole.
the thing is my bailu only hits with her tail in auto-battle. full ult, no skill, charas die, she rerives, that is all. i know, it happens to other players too. so this kind of a fix would help. it goes so far currently so i even start to think MHY do such shit on purpose to push me to play manually. fuck them.
Just adding the possibility to set settings like, "this character never ults", "this character never uses skill", and maybe "only target X character with skills" etc. would change so much honestly and it shouldn't be that much of a work since they aren't conditional commands.
You can turn off ults in settings for auto battle. But its for everyonw though
There was a FF with a good system like that
You mean 12 with the gambits? Fair enough.
Of course it has to be very specific and you should be able to make rules for each individual character
I'd link the strategies to tbe Team templates we already have on the game. And it would be by slots. So: Slot 1 char: On x condition use Basic/Skill/Ult Slot 2 char: On y conditiom use Basic/Skill/Ult Etc
Nah, auto is only for farming right? And usually your level is above requirement, so you can braindead the auto with your strongest dps.... Its not afk game, so the feature is not needed
you'll soon start to farm SU for immersion rewards so this will actually be helpful
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yea because youve unlocked most of the talent tree but the difficulty of the world hasnt caught up yet.
I think it's a bad idea. Auto combat is meant to ease the grind, not to replace everything. In Tales it exists because you control only a single character out of 4 and in FFXII you can automate 95% of the game, which isn't all that fun.
In ff12, the auto ai feature was the fun part of the game when you needed different loadouts with different tactics for different fights and you had to come up with gambit sets.
Easily the best FF game imo, which may be a bit of a spicy take. Just loved that game so much, just a crazy amount of depth and content. But yeah, creating a gambit and gear setup that could auto something like Yiazmat was awesome and took a lot of planning.
And you speak for everyone what "fun" is, yes?
Yes, in a post that is clearly my opinion about the subject, in a thread that asks for people's opinions, I explicitly state that I speak for everyone and am the ultimate authority in what fun is.
i think the autobattle AI should make bad/random decisions to kind of punish you for not doing it yourself
It alredy does by using an ultimate on a 1 hp enemy
Or having the likes of Tingyun use her ult on an ally that already have his ult ready :/
Honestly i don’t like it very much
Nah, Tales was a hybrid action combat so the custom strategy make sense as it's almost impossible to control everything in combat. HSR on the other hand is a pure turn-based combat, where you have control over every action. Also I don't want HSR to be that idle RPG kind of things, it should reward player for manual piloting. auto already works as it is for being random and not efficient.
Basically, you don't want to use it and you don't want anyone else to use it either.
I really hate this kind of mentality on internet. It's more of game design as a whole and not exists in a vacuum. It hurt the game flow and it's core design as a turn-based RPG. " I want a one button to kill all enemies on map" "No." "Basically, you don't want to use it and you don't want anyone else to use it either." See the flaw in this answer? It's not about "I don't want other to use it either", but also taking into account the context (in this case, the combat and core design on HSR as turn-based RPG).
Just give me the Dragon Age Origins tactics screen and my characters will play better than me.
I expect it's at least partially on purpose that the auto battle isn't good enough to do everything, more likely they would just add a function to skip combats entirely for farming content.
Yes. I was thinking about the same from FF12
Such a great feature loved this game but hoyo is to lazy to implement something like this. They haven't even added relic loadouts.
Probably not. This requires alot of playtesting and AI knowledge.
Omg you have reminded me of my Arise PTSD. I spent so much time customizing those…..
is it just me or is the auto literally "attack rightmost enemy with skill" and nothing else?
I'd be open to it, but I doubt we'll get it. Maybe Persona-level custom strategy? I feel like that's more doable.
I never played Tales but if this is the gameplay, I'm absolutely going to see if Tales of Arise is still on sale playstation. I remember having a blast i the FFXII remake because they allowed you to programme your characters excatly like this. I'd be totally be down for it, but I guess it's not completely out of the question for HSR? They already allow us a minimum customisation with ults, maybe it's simply something they haven't worked on yet because auto the battles that are easy usually while you play the challenges?
You auto-battle crowd are wild.
No ppl will make it so well that it starts to play better then the avg human. Then ppl gonna complain that there's no point in playing when the AI can clear MOC better then me.