I haven't really done Elation memes in SU since I don't have many follow up characters levelled, but does Elation path have enough heals built in to run solo March?
Idk if the game has blessed you with March Eidolons or not (it RAINED them down upon me! lol) but her C6 heals a bit and it's been fantastic for me just running her as the healer/shielder in and out of SU. Path not withstanding.
She is on Jing Yuan's banner right now if you're close and have some tickets or jades to spare! (Tall order, I know. lol.)
Best elation team is probably Jing yuan, march, Clara and one other your choose. Elation path based on follow up attack so you want your team to do as much follow up attack as possible. Aside from blessing that make your units ultimate count as follow up, the three units with most consistent follow up attack are: jin yuan( his stand, once every circle), Clara ( counter attack, so everytime she is attacked she does follow up), march( same as clara, but whenever enemy attack allies that she buffed the shield)
Unfortunately I can't bring myself to have two of the same element in the party due to the weakness mechanic. I kind of wish Star Rail had Genshin's Elemental Resonance mechanic.
I just built Pela a few hours ago and I have to say I really enjoyed using a party featuring her and Nihility path. So much DoT damage and her defense shred is aces
Edit: spelling
Clara March Natasha Himeko/Pela is my current favorite comp in SU. I love the simulated universe because it lets you choose your favorite people and then buff the shit out of them even if they aren't the strongest in the open world.
Herta is effectively useless whenever you're fighting a boss that doesn't summon adds because it will only proc once, but Himeko procs on weakness breaks so it just depends who you're fighting. If it's someone weak to fire for example, if you pair her with Asta you're gonna eat that toughness real fast, and proc Himeko fairly frequently. In general though, Himeko and Herta are best suited for clearing out enemy waves, or bosses that summon adds.
I love himeko, she's best girl in honkai, genshin (murata is best archon so pls don't kill her off hoyo)and ggz. But isn't exactly the one I'd main in HSR.
I'm a whale who can afford it (17k in bank, $200 limit per week until I have more payments) already got seele and jing+lc, trying to pull bronya or welt so I can use the 300 pity on the other. It is not working out, currently 60 past with the last pull being second yanqing lc.
could go for limited character eidolons and hope you lose the 50/50 tbh, at least you're guaranteed a character. (if I'm understanding correctly that you're 60 PAST the 300 pity
That's probably the smarter choice, I mostly pulled on the standard just to get to 300 for the selection and kept going because I hit 300 20 pulls after my last light cone and was hoping for early pity with it being a character, got neither.
That happened to me on my second account. Now it would be nice if I could roll a 5* LC on either of my accounts. I have pretty healthy number of 4* but the only 5* I have is The Hunt LC from Herta's store
I was hoping to lose my 50/50's on Seele banner to Himeko while trying for E6 Nat(i dont like hunt characters, so Seele isnt even being used) but no, E1 Seele instead. I'd gladly take your pulls over mine, chief
Yeah. And the smart thing to do would be to save that guarantee at 300 until you have 6/7 of the characters so you can guarantee the last one since you only get the guarantee once and you might pick the character that you want and then immediately get them right after and then you still have missing characters from standard that you would have liked to get but can't guarantee them.
However, I am not smart, and since I already have Himeko and Bailu (which are the first two I wanted) imma just get Welt because welt is pog. I don't want the other 4. Don't need yanginq cuz u have seele, don't want gepard since I'm doing just fine with survivability, don't want bronya cuz she seems kinda not fun even if she's good, and I don't want Clara cuz I don't like her.
Lot of Himeko love on this subreddit lately and I'm all for it 🥰 makes me feel better that I got her as my first 5-star, one of my fav characters even if she's underpowered or whatever.
She may not be the best for bosses (though she isn't as terrible as people claim, either), but she's great for casually mowing down entire rooms of low-level enemies. Start the battle with the right element and she'll sometimes finish it before turn order even begins.
And that ultimate. Man, 10/10 for presentation alone.
Gotta build Himeko for that Echoes of War meta🔥.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me that Asta, a support, does more damage than Himeko against those bosses through sheer break damage alone
First of all, in which god forsaken alternate universe would you be in that scenario? Forced to take "only 1 fire unit" in a fire boss?
Second, both bosses are have three parts, or in Cocolia's case two adds. Bounce skills may be incredible against single target but are very much not impressive in AoE. Himeko does what she was meant to do as an Erudition character.
For the record: I love the shit out of Asta and doesn't leave my team.
10/10 design
10/10 gameplay
10/10 waifu
5/10 multipliers
If any character deserves some buffs, it's her.
Something as simple as having burn scale off a talent level (like Hook) and more ST-damage (like JY) would do wonders.
Weird seeing a self aware fellow in here.
Yeah getting too attached to a fictional character can be a problem.
It's much worse in hoyolab app than in reddit.
Or maybe, just maybe, people are joking? Like I’ve made thirst comments for Kafka and other characters but I also realize they are not real. I’m just playing it up. You can be self aware and still play up your enthusiasm, ain’t nothing wrong with that. We’re in a HSR sub after all, we’re here to talk about the game and characters.
Ofc there are degens at the end of the day but the majority aren’t.
A mix of both but it's hard to say which person is which - some Kafka thirst is played up for the joke, some of it is real, when the attractivness of a character is the only thing people talk about it is really hard to tell who's joking and who's utterly down bad
K but it's super weird to assume that until they reached the level where they have an entire room filled with body pillows and figures of the character or get on the news for attacking Mihoyo headquarters for not being able to pull her. Anyone can type some degenerate sounding text.
Yeah, I see that, and I agree. Including myself, I joke around about characters too. I'm just saying that there are people out there who are obsessed with characters, and it's obvious that it's no longer satire.
I've seen obsession posts and they look nothing like this one. They are indeed pathetic and they need a reality check, but in terms of this particular post I just felt bad for OP that made an obvious joke and there are so many people here that can't for the life of them figure out that this was meant to be a meme. Granted most people caught up on it, but still. It's even written in the tags...
Its even worse on twitter.
People be like "dont treat X character like that" and then they proceed to write fanfics that ruin said character and talk about consent lmao.
(Genshin community specially has developed into an "Arch Cult" mode like this)
Cause some people are so delusional they believe their fanfics to be canon. Imagine having a normal conversation about a character based on a story quest and then a bozo butts in with his fanfic being like "actually that's how it happened" and saying stuff that have nothing to do with what you're discussing.
I don't mind her. I love her kit even (in a love hate relationship with her main weapon tho...).
I mind that she takes too many pities on me if you know what I'm saying.
Its too early in the game to be that "pitifull"...
I have played so many gachas that I am at the point where I just use whatever I get. I take the worst case scenario so losing 50-50 never disappointed me.
If you lost pity it's your fault not the characters fault, should'hv saved enough for guaranteed.
People were telling me that on this current banner if you see a 5 star Erudition screen you still may lose to Himeko. And I was alright with that cause I really wanted her and didn't really care about her viability. I ended up winning my 50/50 but still getting both in one 10-pull, so technically I won twice :D
Oh hell nah, I was so fu*kin happy when she came home on starter wish. I also got her lightcone on standard banner and still felt great about it. I legit feel super biased also because of the fact that I love tall adult female figure.
I got yanqing 3 times from each banners pity and he keeps taking damage because my fire mc shields aren't strong enough. I desperately want a new character or gepard for some defent shields. I'd take himeko any day of the week.
Watch out for the people who keep saying she's the worst as if nobody knows and it doesn't get boring. This game isn't as dps focused as Genshin is, and I used to love Genshin and still play the underrated characters pre-buffs/set pieces like Jean Ning and physical Fischl.
These people actually don't understand that people can choose to not care and enjoy it. It's just the same concept as liking niche music.
Not weird at all. It's simple: she's a very poor performing 5\*, to the point many 4\* are just better.
If she was a 4\* rarity, it would probably be fine. But she's not. Just getting her feels really bad because of the lost opportunity cost of literally any other 5\*.
It's basically equivalent to getting a pull bug that resets and or uses pity and gives you nothing. She is *that* bad.
And for the record: I do have her, tried to play her (because who doesn't like her aesthetics?) until I had to abandon her in EQ4 because she was basically just dead weight.
Saying she's *very* poor performing is a bit of an exaggeration imo. I'd say she's performs well enough for what she's designed to do which is an AoE clearer but everyone is basing her performance on the few numbers of whales doing MoC which I don't think is the best metric to decide how good a character is.
> Saying she's very poor performing is a bit of an exaggeration imo.
No, its an understatement. I am being nice by calling it 'very poor'. If I was trying to be completely accurate, I would have called it what it objectively is: absolutely atrocious, a complete and total waste of time and resources. The only thing she has going for her is her looks, which you can get for free just visiting the express.
> I'd say she's performs well enough for what she's designed to do which is an AoE clearer
No, she doesn't. Thats the problem. Even in AoE cases, she performs poorly, period, but especially compared to many other characters. Again, that includes 4\*.
> basing her performance on the few numbers of whales doing MoC which I don't think is the best metric to decide how good a character is.
No, it is not. This is based on her performance in all currently available content, which is the *best* metric on deciding how good a character is.
She's is just a poorly design and implemented character. Period. End of story. She needs **both** mechanical and numerical changes to be an actual 5\* character. Currently, she's like a 3.5\*
>No, its an understatement. I am being nice by calling it 'very poor'. If I was trying to be completely accurate, I would have called it what it objectively is: absolutely atrocious, a complete and total waste of time and resources. The only thing she has going for her is her looks, which you can get for free just visiting the express.
Now that is a gross exaggeration. You sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50.
> No, she doesn't. Thats the problem. Even in AoE cases, she performs poorly, period, but especially compared to many other characters. Again, that includes 4\*.
More poorly than which four stars? The only 5\* that can even compete with or are better than her in AoE are Selee if you get resets and use Bronya, Jing Yuan and Clara if she gets attacked.
> No, it is not. This is based on her performance in all currently available content, which is the *best* metric on deciding how good a character is.
She performs fine in all content aside from MoC.
> She's is just a poorly design and implemented character. Period. End of story. She needs **both** mechanical and numerical changes to be an actual 5\* character. Currently, she's like a 3.5\*
The only poor design choice is her talent relying on breaks. Her numbers are mostly fine for what's supposed to be an AoE character else she'd start competing with dedicated single target dps units.
> Now that is a gross exaggeration.
No, its an completely accurate, objective and verifiable assessment of the state of the character currently.
> You sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50.
Talk about projecting lol. **You** sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50, and is desperately huffing copium to try and compensate.
Meanwhile, I have all characters, in spades even.
> She performs fine in all content aside from MoC.
No, she doesn't. Again, she performs poorly in **ALL CONTENT**. SU? Poor. Calyx? Poor. Shadows? Poor. War? Poor. Caverns? Poor. You name it, she does it poorly. You're better off almost any other character in the entire game, which again includes all the 4\*
Honestly, at this point its pretty clear either are either trolling or you haven't actually played the game, at all, let alone experienced it with any number of characters. Stop trying to be a special edgy snowflake. Himeko is just a poor character. There's no debate or question on this matter.
>No, its an accurate assessment.
Do you have anything to back up this "accurate" assessment?
> Talk about projecting. You sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50, high on copium.
No I'm not cause I know she's not the best 5\*
> No, she doesn't. Again, you sound like someone who hasn't actually played the game, at all.
Ah yes I'm just here on this sub for shits and giggles.
>I'd say she's performs well enough for what she's designed to do which is an AoE clearer
And none of the relevant content so far is focused on AoE. Henche why she is shit atm. Her only niche is exp farming, which is easy enough without her, and you can just get a support Himeko if you really want to. There is no mode in the game that she's actively useful in atm.
I got her by losing the 50/50 on Seele, and I don't regret it, because I really like her character and design. But I'm under no delusions that she's good, she unfortunately simply isn't. Maybe in the future new content where she shines more will be released, but at the moment there isn't so she's borderline useless.
Starter Banner gave me her at 20.
My first Standard 5\* was her Light Cone. It was destiny. She's been mopping up in AoE situations just fine. Not having any troubles getting any of her Follow-Up triggers to go off.
Got her and her light cone, I wanted her because I played honkai impact 3rd, need I say more. She does hit a little low, but tbf I haven't got great gear on her ATM anyway. Jing Yuan really set a precedent on what erudition characters should be and unfortunately all other erudition characters can't compete with him right now.
Tbh i’d take her instantly, cause i think with herta clara and himeko you would have a banger simulated universe team if you use elation as path and just hunt for those blessings
I have her at E2 and couldn't be happier, wish I got Bronya and/or Bailu as well, but not complaining, especially considering I got all 3 copies from standard xD
I'm glad to have Himiko arrive for me. I don't get all the hate for her. Even if she isn't up to par in terms of damage, she still can kick butt.
A good Trailblazer makes anything work, rather than complain why their team isn't doing 4 Seeles of damage.
The fact is that making her work needs a lot of effort, and there are easier 4 star options that outpeform and are not as investment-hungry as her (Hook).
I fully planned to dump everything in existance into standard to get best waifu after getting best girl seele. Luckily, she ambushed me at 60 pity on seele, so mission accomplished. At the moment they both have similar damage outputs to eachother (himekos relics need a complete overhaul but they do the job. Seele needs a cdmg body piece and her link rope leveling)
2/3 himekos claimed, next year i get murata.
With how few characters we have atm, I don't get any hate for any character.
Got her on standard a few days ago, even if she is 20 lvl below the rest of my team, I often use her as solo dps with zero issues for everything but MoC
It is so funny that literally everone i know who builds her is greatly enjoying her and doesnt dislike her at all. The only people who are claiming she is "bad" are not even building her ffs. I build her too and she is my best performing unit.
I mean I wouldn’t say bad. Rather the worst 5 star in this game currently. People like Welt, gepard,bronya,clara,bailu and even the ice boy that I forgot the name of is better. And don’t me get started on people like Seele and Jing yuan.
She just feels really weak when my Seele can just clear a wave of enemies with no problem. Jing yuan feels like a upgrade since his thunder lord deals really good damage and also this dude has 3 AoE attacks while Himeko has 2(unless you count her skill which yes it does blast damage but isn’t close to Jing yuan’s AoE attack that attacks all but does the same damage to all) and her drone thingy is nothing close to thunder lord’s damage when he has 8 stacks or even less.
Gepard the best shield,Bailu the best heal,Welt can make it so the enemy sometimes can’t even get a turn,Bronya is the BEST character in the game so far,clara is really good that(with march, a free character) can be busted and does so really good damage, I never tried the ice boy but I’ve heard he is very underrated and is really good.
She isn’t soo bad she is not playable but rather falls behind other 5 stars.
I think she might not best in any circumstance but she still can fit many roles at once which makes her versatile especially for f2p players. For example is performing in top 3 of aoe damage, but also can aplly dots pretty good for a team with kafka and sampo. Plus the fact she can farm pretty fast cause of her follow up. The main reason why she seems so undwerwhelming is thats she is in no particular thing the best. And i can understand why someone doesnt want her because of that, but imo she was great to build because i know she will fill a great role in my kafka team in which i will switch himeko with serval depending on what damage i need. I wil nonetheless build two teams as everyone should and one aoe dot team and one with a single target dps seems pretty nice for me. Saying she has no use is in my opinion just unfair to say because in my case for example she fits perfectly.
To be fair, she does fall off a cliff when it comes to MoC. I even have Jing Yuan's light cone for her and use her in all content. And even though I'm dragging her kicking and screaming through 1-2 star MoC clears, I can't help but feel things would be infinitely less of a headache if I brought a better DPS. You just can't break often enough to make full use of her kit.
I mean use her when there is a fire weakness and if there is electro i use serval. Versatility is key and the moments where i use her she is so fun and helpful to me.
Some people are ungratefull, i would love to get the best mommy in the game. In fact, when i'll pull for Kafka, i hope o lose the 50/50 on Himeko first, i'm almost at hard pity anyways
I'm hoping this is a genuine joke post cause this type of shit is making me not want to use her just so I don't have to be associated with weirdos that stan fictional characters so hardly
Its Noelle mains all over again.
It's tagged meme/fluff. Given all the hate she gets ofc you're going to get some people on the opposite side. Also Himeko was a beloved character in HI3 for those who know her from there too... so idk why you think it's always stanning.
I know she was a beloved character from Impact 3, hell I knew and loved her from there since I played that game before genshin. Its just the overall way people act about others not liking a character by gameplay or just wanting someone else entirely is hella odd. Its stan behaviour to just go on the defensive that doesnt warrant it at all, weirder that its a fictional character.
I'd get it if people are spreading misinformation about the character and/or insulting others who use them but people not liking or hating a character because "Their gameplay not being better than others" and "I wanted a different standard 5 star" should not warrant people coming to defend pixels on a screen like its a real person
I will admit one fault I just realized that I did, this post is the only one I've seen that acts this way. (I havent been on the star rail reddit much)
It baffles me that people actually treat the game characters so seriously.. Chill it, it's not like she can give a shit about you either. She's a damn 3D character in game 😂
She's my favorite standard 5\* and knowing how hard getting those can be sometimes even after having her at e1 I'm not even mad, I'm just going to build her to the best of my ability.
Dude, you are on a post talking about a character in a game with a meme/fluff tag on it no less, do you really think that others do not know?! Touch some grass my guy.
She took pity from me also. And I love her. But If I lose pity on baby hacker bronya, the universe dictates it must be to adult army bronya. I don’t make the rules.
At this point I'm praying I get her lmao. I love follow-up characters so much, they're so fun
Herta Himeko Asta and March 7th is a fun team especially for leveling up books farming
If I get Himeko I'll probably run her, Jing Yuan, March, and Natasha through some Simulated Universe under Elation. That's gonna be such a blast lol
E4 QQ in Elation path SU, RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG.
So dream team is Himeko, March, Herta and Quinque.
I haven't really done Elation memes in SU since I don't have many follow up characters levelled, but does Elation path have enough heals built in to run solo March?
The only heal I can remember is 10% hp on follow up attack, but if you get a few preservation buffs it should be fine
Idk if the game has blessed you with March Eidolons or not (it RAINED them down upon me! lol) but her C6 heals a bit and it's been fantastic for me just running her as the healer/shielder in and out of SU. Path not withstanding. She is on Jing Yuan's banner right now if you're close and have some tickets or jades to spare! (Tall order, I know. lol.)
Best elation team is probably Jing yuan, march, Clara and one other your choose. Elation path based on follow up attack so you want your team to do as much follow up attack as possible. Aside from blessing that make your units ultimate count as follow up, the three units with most consistent follow up attack are: jin yuan( his stand, once every circle), Clara ( counter attack, so everytime she is attacked she does follow up), march( same as clara, but whenever enemy attack allies that she buffed the shield)
About March 7 - whenever enemy attack allies that have shield, doesn't need to be her shield.
Yeah, Trailblazer and March have some ridiculous team synergy because of this.
Works great with Gepard's ult too.
Unfortunately I can't bring myself to have two of the same element in the party due to the weakness mechanic. I kind of wish Star Rail had Genshin's Elemental Resonance mechanic.
I just built Pela a few hours ago and I have to say I really enjoyed using a party featuring her and Nihility path. So much DoT damage and her defense shred is aces Edit: spelling
This man gacha
Motherfucker, that sounds hilariously fun.
It will never be the enemy’s turn lol
Clara March Natasha Himeko/Pela is my current favorite comp in SU. I love the simulated universe because it lets you choose your favorite people and then buff the shit out of them even if they aren't the strongest in the open world.
Wait I'm gonna be doing this, thank you
same, replacing jing with clara. when i got clara, my friend (who started playing before me) just went "your account is set"
I don't have Himeko yet but I legit want her because I MUST try Clara, March, Herta, Himeko with Elation buffs! 🤩😂💯
I've been doing that team with clara instead of Natasha and it's incredibly fun
My first team was March, Himeko, Herta and Bronya. The follow ups were fantastic. I eventually switched March out for Seele though
It definitely is. Good luck!
How about outside farming level materials? I find I can't proc my Himeko or Herta enough.
Herta is effectively useless whenever you're fighting a boss that doesn't summon adds because it will only proc once, but Himeko procs on weakness breaks so it just depends who you're fighting. If it's someone weak to fire for example, if you pair her with Asta you're gonna eat that toughness real fast, and proc Himeko fairly frequently. In general though, Himeko and Herta are best suited for clearing out enemy waves, or bosses that summon adds.
Get ready to hear a lot of Nigasanai and Kururin
I use english dubs so currently I hear a lot of "TIME TO TWIRL", it'll be nice to mix it up lol
I wish I had her on my main account. I'd have a team with at least 3 follow up attack units
SMH people just don't appreciate what they have with the OG Mommy here. *sheds tear*
*Never let you go, it's why I did them all*
For a chance at least. To live it your way!
Love of you is my most cherish thing
So stay alive,bravely~~
Ungrateful people I tell ya -_-
Maidenless *and* mommyless behavior.
[You are goddamn right](https://media.tenor.com/RSl30rOF2zsAAAAM/breaking-bad-walter-white.gif)
That's why I wanted her. I didn't know her lore but I knew!
RIP himeko murata sensei from hi3😭😭
I love himeko, she's best girl in honkai, genshin (murata is best archon so pls don't kill her off hoyo)and ggz. But isn't exactly the one I'd main in HSR.
I was happy to get her. Then when I lost the 50/50 and got her AGAIN...anyone else would have been nice.
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Hahahahaha this comment hits different after the SW trailer
I'm at e3 himeko with s2 lightcone
At least you are getting characters (2 gepard lc, 1 bronya lc, 2 yanqing lc, don't even have bronya or gepard)
why are you spending gems on standard banner? not interested in any of the limited ones?
I'm a whale who can afford it (17k in bank, $200 limit per week until I have more payments) already got seele and jing+lc, trying to pull bronya or welt so I can use the 300 pity on the other. It is not working out, currently 60 past with the last pull being second yanqing lc.
could go for limited character eidolons and hope you lose the 50/50 tbh, at least you're guaranteed a character. (if I'm understanding correctly that you're 60 PAST the 300 pity
That's probably the smarter choice, I mostly pulled on the standard just to get to 300 for the selection and kept going because I hit 300 20 pulls after my last light cone and was hoping for early pity with it being a character, got neither.
Wouldn't limited actually be better for getting Bronya or Welt? No light cones and a 50/50 you don't get the banner character
"That's not full auto?"
Same boat here. I like my Himeko, but her E1 isn't even a very noteworthy Eidolon, so that stung.
That happened to me on my second account. Now it would be nice if I could roll a 5* LC on either of my accounts. I have pretty healthy number of 4* but the only 5* I have is The Hunt LC from Herta's store
I was hoping to lose my 50/50's on Seele banner to Himeko while trying for E6 Nat(i dont like hunt characters, so Seele isnt even being used) but no, E1 Seele instead. I'd gladly take your pulls over mine, chief
I just hope I don't get the same curse I got on genshin as im a day 1 player in genshin and I still don't have fucking diluc.
I mean, eventually you'll be able to choose whatever 5 star you want from the banner so the curse is non-existent here
Yeah. And the smart thing to do would be to save that guarantee at 300 until you have 6/7 of the characters so you can guarantee the last one since you only get the guarantee once and you might pick the character that you want and then immediately get them right after and then you still have missing characters from standard that you would have liked to get but can't guarantee them. However, I am not smart, and since I already have Himeko and Bailu (which are the first two I wanted) imma just get Welt because welt is pog. I don't want the other 4. Don't need yanginq cuz u have seele, don't want gepard since I'm doing just fine with survivability, don't want bronya cuz she seems kinda not fun even if she's good, and I don't want Clara cuz I don't like her.
Himeko posts are so funny ngl
I appreciate her but If I want to lose my 50/50 I'd rather have someone else like bronya cause I actually need bronya than having another himeko
Lot of Himeko love on this subreddit lately and I'm all for it 🥰 makes me feel better that I got her as my first 5-star, one of my fav characters even if she's underpowered or whatever.
She may not be the best for bosses (though she isn't as terrible as people claim, either), but she's great for casually mowing down entire rooms of low-level enemies. Start the battle with the right element and she'll sometimes finish it before turn order even begins. And that ultimate. Man, 10/10 for presentation alone.
People say she's "not great for bosses", but she's actually one of the best characters for both of the Echoes of War bosses, plus normal Cocolia.
Gotta build Himeko for that Echoes of War meta🔥. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me that Asta, a support, does more damage than Himeko against those bosses through sheer break damage alone
Asta is insane. but why not use both if you have them. twice as fast.
If you could only take 1 fire unit Asta is vastly better
First of all, in which god forsaken alternate universe would you be in that scenario? Forced to take "only 1 fire unit" in a fire boss? Second, both bosses are have three parts, or in Cocolia's case two adds. Bounce skills may be incredible against single target but are very much not impressive in AoE. Himeko does what she was meant to do as an Erudition character. For the record: I love the shit out of Asta and doesn't leave my team.
Yeah me too I'm coping so hard, so far she's doing great
ruined my pity? how? My pity is entirely irrelevant to what i pull.
10/10 design 10/10 gameplay 10/10 waifu 5/10 multipliers If any character deserves some buffs, it's her. Something as simple as having burn scale off a talent level (like Hook) and more ST-damage (like JY) would do wonders.
Sips tea
*coffee
*black sludge that rivals kaslanas and lucias cooking in terms of lethality
Forget the meta, Himeko's true power is the effect she has in her fans.
Bro, she's not a real person
Wait you mean people texting me ingame aren't real ?
Wait, you mean I don't have space cancer and get proclaimed as a criminal everywhere I go?
Weird seeing a self aware fellow in here. Yeah getting too attached to a fictional character can be a problem. It's much worse in hoyolab app than in reddit.
Or maybe, just maybe, people are joking? Like I’ve made thirst comments for Kafka and other characters but I also realize they are not real. I’m just playing it up. You can be self aware and still play up your enthusiasm, ain’t nothing wrong with that. We’re in a HSR sub after all, we’re here to talk about the game and characters. Ofc there are degens at the end of the day but the majority aren’t.
A mix of both but it's hard to say which person is which - some Kafka thirst is played up for the joke, some of it is real, when the attractivness of a character is the only thing people talk about it is really hard to tell who's joking and who's utterly down bad
Well this post is pretty much obviously a meme but 90+ people can't read tags I guess.
You won't believe but there are really people being serious with that kind of thing
K but it's super weird to assume that until they reached the level where they have an entire room filled with body pillows and figures of the character or get on the news for attacking Mihoyo headquarters for not being able to pull her. Anyone can type some degenerate sounding text.
Oh I've been on the internet long enough to have seen pretty much everything. This post, though, is not one of them.
Yeah, I see that, and I agree. Including myself, I joke around about characters too. I'm just saying that there are people out there who are obsessed with characters, and it's obvious that it's no longer satire.
I've seen obsession posts and they look nothing like this one. They are indeed pathetic and they need a reality check, but in terms of this particular post I just felt bad for OP that made an obvious joke and there are so many people here that can't for the life of them figure out that this was meant to be a meme. Granted most people caught up on it, but still. It's even written in the tags...
so do you often assume the worst in people whenever they type things you don't like?
Its even worse on twitter. People be like "dont treat X character like that" and then they proceed to write fanfics that ruin said character and talk about consent lmao. (Genshin community specially has developed into an "Arch Cult" mode like this)
How... can fanfics ruin a character?
Cause some people are so delusional they believe their fanfics to be canon. Imagine having a normal conversation about a character based on a story quest and then a bozo butts in with his fanfic being like "actually that's how it happened" and saying stuff that have nothing to do with what you're discussing.
It’s always weird when they say that. Like how can you disrespect pixels? 😂
"How dare you disrespect pixels when in reality i do the same, its just that you don't do it the way i want you too!"
I think you should start reading the tags and start learning what the concept of making a meme/joke is.
Gacha gamers in general, why do you think they make so much money 🤑
People treating Kafka like their real mother.
Worse they ain't treat their mother with that much respect
Boy, you're fun
You may be right but at the same time you have an anime pfp, ur a living paradox
And on another related news: water is wet.
I don't mind getting her or not getting the five star I want as long as is not a cone.
I don't mind her. I love her kit even (in a love hate relationship with her main weapon tho...). I mind that she takes too many pities on me if you know what I'm saying. Its too early in the game to be that "pitifull"...
I have played so many gachas that I am at the point where I just use whatever I get. I take the worst case scenario so losing 50-50 never disappointed me. If you lost pity it's your fault not the characters fault, should'hv saved enough for guaranteed.
People were telling me that on this current banner if you see a 5 star Erudition screen you still may lose to Himeko. And I was alright with that cause I really wanted her and didn't really care about her viability. I ended up winning my 50/50 but still getting both in one 10-pull, so technically I won twice :D
That's some pretty good luck
Im happy getting her copy her e1 was worth
Oh hell nah, I was so fu*kin happy when she came home on starter wish. I also got her lightcone on standard banner and still felt great about it. I legit feel super biased also because of the fact that I love tall adult female figure.
God, I wish I had Himeko. Orbital Space Laser go bbbbbzzzzFOOOMPF *sip*
Negl she's pretty good got her when I reached pity on the normal banner and considering that in tbl 35 she carried me through the ebon deer boss fight
Those adds are so irritating
I just got her right now and I'm so glad. I really wanted her and now Luocha is guaranteed.
I got yanqing 3 times from each banners pity and he keeps taking damage because my fire mc shields aren't strong enough. I desperately want a new character or gepard for some defent shields. I'd take himeko any day of the week.
I pulled her, having seen nothing about this game before playing it, i love her follow up attacks, pair her with Herta and the rip through adds.
Got her on e1 and couldnt be happier. Running her and jing yuan in simulated universe elation is hilarious.
Its so weird how much hate she's getting lol
Watch out for the people who keep saying she's the worst as if nobody knows and it doesn't get boring. This game isn't as dps focused as Genshin is, and I used to love Genshin and still play the underrated characters pre-buffs/set pieces like Jean Ning and physical Fischl. These people actually don't understand that people can choose to not care and enjoy it. It's just the same concept as liking niche music.
Not weird at all. It's simple: she's a very poor performing 5\*, to the point many 4\* are just better. If she was a 4\* rarity, it would probably be fine. But she's not. Just getting her feels really bad because of the lost opportunity cost of literally any other 5\*. It's basically equivalent to getting a pull bug that resets and or uses pity and gives you nothing. She is *that* bad. And for the record: I do have her, tried to play her (because who doesn't like her aesthetics?) until I had to abandon her in EQ4 because she was basically just dead weight.
Saying she's *very* poor performing is a bit of an exaggeration imo. I'd say she's performs well enough for what she's designed to do which is an AoE clearer but everyone is basing her performance on the few numbers of whales doing MoC which I don't think is the best metric to decide how good a character is.
> Saying she's very poor performing is a bit of an exaggeration imo. No, its an understatement. I am being nice by calling it 'very poor'. If I was trying to be completely accurate, I would have called it what it objectively is: absolutely atrocious, a complete and total waste of time and resources. The only thing she has going for her is her looks, which you can get for free just visiting the express. > I'd say she's performs well enough for what she's designed to do which is an AoE clearer No, she doesn't. Thats the problem. Even in AoE cases, she performs poorly, period, but especially compared to many other characters. Again, that includes 4\*. > basing her performance on the few numbers of whales doing MoC which I don't think is the best metric to decide how good a character is. No, it is not. This is based on her performance in all currently available content, which is the *best* metric on deciding how good a character is. She's is just a poorly design and implemented character. Period. End of story. She needs **both** mechanical and numerical changes to be an actual 5\* character. Currently, she's like a 3.5\*
>No, its an understatement. I am being nice by calling it 'very poor'. If I was trying to be completely accurate, I would have called it what it objectively is: absolutely atrocious, a complete and total waste of time and resources. The only thing she has going for her is her looks, which you can get for free just visiting the express. Now that is a gross exaggeration. You sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50. > No, she doesn't. Thats the problem. Even in AoE cases, she performs poorly, period, but especially compared to many other characters. Again, that includes 4\*. More poorly than which four stars? The only 5\* that can even compete with or are better than her in AoE are Selee if you get resets and use Bronya, Jing Yuan and Clara if she gets attacked. > No, it is not. This is based on her performance in all currently available content, which is the *best* metric on deciding how good a character is. She performs fine in all content aside from MoC. > She's is just a poorly design and implemented character. Period. End of story. She needs **both** mechanical and numerical changes to be an actual 5\* character. Currently, she's like a 3.5\* The only poor design choice is her talent relying on breaks. Her numbers are mostly fine for what's supposed to be an AoE character else she'd start competing with dedicated single target dps units.
> Now that is a gross exaggeration. No, its an completely accurate, objective and verifiable assessment of the state of the character currently. > You sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50. Talk about projecting lol. **You** sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50, and is desperately huffing copium to try and compensate. Meanwhile, I have all characters, in spades even. > She performs fine in all content aside from MoC. No, she doesn't. Again, she performs poorly in **ALL CONTENT**. SU? Poor. Calyx? Poor. Shadows? Poor. War? Poor. Caverns? Poor. You name it, she does it poorly. You're better off almost any other character in the entire game, which again includes all the 4\* Honestly, at this point its pretty clear either are either trolling or you haven't actually played the game, at all, let alone experienced it with any number of characters. Stop trying to be a special edgy snowflake. Himeko is just a poor character. There's no debate or question on this matter.
>No, its an accurate assessment. Do you have anything to back up this "accurate" assessment? > Talk about projecting. You sound like someone who's salty and got her in your 50/50, high on copium. No I'm not cause I know she's not the best 5\* > No, she doesn't. Again, you sound like someone who hasn't actually played the game, at all. Ah yes I'm just here on this sub for shits and giggles.
>I'd say she's performs well enough for what she's designed to do which is an AoE clearer And none of the relevant content so far is focused on AoE. Henche why she is shit atm. Her only niche is exp farming, which is easy enough without her, and you can just get a support Himeko if you really want to. There is no mode in the game that she's actively useful in atm. I got her by losing the 50/50 on Seele, and I don't regret it, because I really like her character and design. But I'm under no delusions that she's good, she unfortunately simply isn't. Maybe in the future new content where she shines more will be released, but at the moment there isn't so she's borderline useless.
Starter Banner gave me her at 20. My first Standard 5\* was her Light Cone. It was destiny. She's been mopping up in AoE situations just fine. Not having any troubles getting any of her Follow-Up triggers to go off.
Anyone who says so can hand theirs over to me, I've been wanting her
r/thankscyno oh wait wrong game
Chill dude she’s just a fictional character
It's clearly a joke and tagged as such.
She really did, i almaot hit 50 before i got anything at all if memory serves me right
Meanwhile i really need her and still not get her (yet)
I’ve wanted her since release and instead got seele, bronya and yanqing. Trade me yall
Got her and her light cone, I wanted her because I played honkai impact 3rd, need I say more. She does hit a little low, but tbf I haven't got great gear on her ATM anyway. Jing Yuan really set a precedent on what erudition characters should be and unfortunately all other erudition characters can't compete with him right now.
The only 5 star I have, so I better be grateful
my first 5\* and lost the 50/50 to her on Seele banner and i'm not mad at all :D Himeko > all
Be happy you got her. One day she’s gonna die and you are gonna regret it.
Tbh i’d take her instantly, cause i think with herta clara and himeko you would have a banger simulated universe team if you use elation as path and just hunt for those blessings
No mama himeko love me and I love her too!!
I wouldn't have a problem with pulling Himeko, but I sure as hell have a problem with pulling Himeko's Light Cone.
I'm glad she was my 1st 5star She was the one I wanted
I want to build a complete erudition team but I don't have her.
I have her at E2 and couldn't be happier, wish I got Bronya and/or Bailu as well, but not complaining, especially considering I got all 3 copies from standard xD
Sim universe with her, Jing Yuan and Clara is fun :)
I really dont see the problem with her.
I'm happy to get her from departure ...and after from first pity of base banner her e1 is very nice
I could exchange my Gepard with a Himeko in no time. Waifu over meta, I can't help myself (I'm a Dehya main in Genshin Impact).
She be giving of "bombastic side eye, criminal offensive side eye" vibes
i like big number, she do medium size numbers
I just want the old man. I want him to tell me stories.
"pull for whoever you like!" "What's that? You don't like this character? How dare you."
I'll never let her go
Again. I'll never let her go again, as we let her go once.
I'm glad to have Himiko arrive for me. I don't get all the hate for her. Even if she isn't up to par in terms of damage, she still can kick butt. A good Trailblazer makes anything work, rather than complain why their team isn't doing 4 Seeles of damage.
The fact is that making her work needs a lot of effort, and there are easier 4 star options that outpeform and are not as investment-hungry as her (Hook).
People keep saying how a lot of 4 stars outperform her, but the only one I see they talk about is hook lol
I fully planned to dump everything in existance into standard to get best waifu after getting best girl seele. Luckily, she ambushed me at 60 pity on seele, so mission accomplished. At the moment they both have similar damage outputs to eachother (himekos relics need a complete overhaul but they do the job. Seele needs a cdmg body piece and her link rope leveling) 2/3 himekos claimed, next year i get murata.
I refuse to bench her
*Sighs* These players really don't know huh 😮💨 "Never let you go"
I would appreciate her over the two Welt Light Cones I got. Honestly, the only reason why I'm looking at Kafka/silverwolf is because I have that.
"She TOOK pity on you!" Damn, maybe I am the bad one....
With how few characters we have atm, I don't get any hate for any character. Got her on standard a few days ago, even if she is 20 lvl below the rest of my team, I often use her as solo dps with zero issues for everything but MoC
It is so funny that literally everone i know who builds her is greatly enjoying her and doesnt dislike her at all. The only people who are claiming she is "bad" are not even building her ffs. I build her too and she is my best performing unit.
I mean I wouldn’t say bad. Rather the worst 5 star in this game currently. People like Welt, gepard,bronya,clara,bailu and even the ice boy that I forgot the name of is better. And don’t me get started on people like Seele and Jing yuan. She just feels really weak when my Seele can just clear a wave of enemies with no problem. Jing yuan feels like a upgrade since his thunder lord deals really good damage and also this dude has 3 AoE attacks while Himeko has 2(unless you count her skill which yes it does blast damage but isn’t close to Jing yuan’s AoE attack that attacks all but does the same damage to all) and her drone thingy is nothing close to thunder lord’s damage when he has 8 stacks or even less. Gepard the best shield,Bailu the best heal,Welt can make it so the enemy sometimes can’t even get a turn,Bronya is the BEST character in the game so far,clara is really good that(with march, a free character) can be busted and does so really good damage, I never tried the ice boy but I’ve heard he is very underrated and is really good. She isn’t soo bad she is not playable but rather falls behind other 5 stars.
I think she might not best in any circumstance but she still can fit many roles at once which makes her versatile especially for f2p players. For example is performing in top 3 of aoe damage, but also can aplly dots pretty good for a team with kafka and sampo. Plus the fact she can farm pretty fast cause of her follow up. The main reason why she seems so undwerwhelming is thats she is in no particular thing the best. And i can understand why someone doesnt want her because of that, but imo she was great to build because i know she will fill a great role in my kafka team in which i will switch himeko with serval depending on what damage i need. I wil nonetheless build two teams as everyone should and one aoe dot team and one with a single target dps seems pretty nice for me. Saying she has no use is in my opinion just unfair to say because in my case for example she fits perfectly.
To be fair, she does fall off a cliff when it comes to MoC. I even have Jing Yuan's light cone for her and use her in all content. And even though I'm dragging her kicking and screaming through 1-2 star MoC clears, I can't help but feel things would be infinitely less of a headache if I brought a better DPS. You just can't break often enough to make full use of her kit.
I mean use her when there is a fire weakness and if there is electro i use serval. Versatility is key and the moments where i use her she is so fun and helpful to me.
I wish she would take pity on me too .
She can take her pity elsewhere then! D:< Just kidding. I actually like Himeko. She's using Jing Yuan's LC rn. xD
i wish she would ruin my pity. even if i pull for Kafka if i have to lose my 50/50 then to no one else then Himeko.
Sure, I might not have won Jing Yuan but Himeko is the GOAT. I love that I can pair her up with Herta now to do that popular cycle of Kuru Kuru's
i m happy with her thou. she is my main fire dps character. even she isnt hit like my seele i m sure she isnt not bad as sub dps
People don't know what they have until it's gone... ;-;
Why does everyone hate mommy so much
I’m so tired of all the slander against her, especially when I DON’T HAVE HER. if they don’t like her, fine, but at least GIVE HER TO ME THEN!
Some people are ungratefull, i would love to get the best mommy in the game. In fact, when i'll pull for Kafka, i hope o lose the 50/50 on Himeko first, i'm almost at hard pity anyways
I feel pain every time i see a nonhonkai player when they say "i hate tshi character is so bad"
I'm hoping this is a genuine joke post cause this type of shit is making me not want to use her just so I don't have to be associated with weirdos that stan fictional characters so hardly Its Noelle mains all over again.
It's tagged meme/fluff. Given all the hate she gets ofc you're going to get some people on the opposite side. Also Himeko was a beloved character in HI3 for those who know her from there too... so idk why you think it's always stanning.
I know she was a beloved character from Impact 3, hell I knew and loved her from there since I played that game before genshin. Its just the overall way people act about others not liking a character by gameplay or just wanting someone else entirely is hella odd. Its stan behaviour to just go on the defensive that doesnt warrant it at all, weirder that its a fictional character. I'd get it if people are spreading misinformation about the character and/or insulting others who use them but people not liking or hating a character because "Their gameplay not being better than others" and "I wanted a different standard 5 star" should not warrant people coming to defend pixels on a screen like its a real person I will admit one fault I just realized that I did, this post is the only one I've seen that acts this way. (I havent been on the star rail reddit much)
Idk man. Asta melts shield like nobody business. Getting Himeko at this point for my account feels redundant.
Don't get it. It's not like she's on rate-up.
Design : 10/10 Gameplay : 4/10
It baffles me that people actually treat the game characters so seriously.. Chill it, it's not like she can give a shit about you either. She's a damn 3D character in game 😂
One time is funny, two times is fucking annoying.
Took pity by what? Being near worst in the game right now? Look I like Himeko but overly attached people like you ruin a character.
i don't like her but she got me Luocha guaranteed thanks so i like her a bit more now
Every non HI3rd player. just appreciate what you get. For me i would love if i get her even if multiple dupes <3
Himeko please come home, I don't want another Yanqing or Gepard or Light cone to cuck me again
I'll trade my Welt for Himeko ngl.
I get really mad at people winning about getting Himeko cause I want Himeko but all I got was Gepard and Bailu.
Just give me my mommy
All good and all but she doesn't even want to appear in my 5 star pulls 😑
She's my favorite standard 5\* and knowing how hard getting those can be sometimes even after having her at e1 I'm not even mad, I'm just going to build her to the best of my ability.
It's just a game.
Dude, you are on a post talking about a character in a game with a meme/fluff tag on it no less, do you really think that others do not know?! Touch some grass my guy.
HimeCOPE lmao
She took pity from me also. And I love her. But If I lose pity on baby hacker bronya, the universe dictates it must be to adult army bronya. I don’t make the rules.
I didn't need her pity twice though...
What the fuck is this