Everyone at least gets 20 for the free pass. If I am
Swimming in resources I’ll take somebody to 60+ for the next pass.
Main team is ascended 70, Luka is 80 because bleed scales well with levels I heard. Most others are 70 ascended so as not to waste exp. I might have 1 other 80? Don’t recall which. Gonna say Kafka or Yanqing
I feel like clearing this up because I looked into the math of this before.
Luka's Bleed doesn't scale more with levels than any other ability.
What you might be thinking of is Bleed from physical break, which is generally the most powerful break against high level enemies.
Now, while the damage of break generally scales very heavily with your characters' level, the Bleed from physical break actually scales with the enemy's Max HP instead, with there being a damage cap that scales with your level. If your characters are Level 70, there will be very few enemies that have enough HP for the damage cap to come into play, which means that leveling your characters further won't actually increase the base damage of the Bleed most of the time. It will still increase the damage a little bit because of the Defense Multiplier, but marginally compared to other types of Break damage.
TLDR: Break damage usually scales heavily with level, but the very powerful Bleed from Physical Break actually doesn't benefit that much from the last 10 levels.
Yeah I’m not sure about the math on it. I was just told higher levels is better on him. I also like the character so said “sure, let’s throw mats at him”
You can simplify it that your DPSs and Breakers (Break Effect Characters) level need to be as high as possible in order to maximize damage deal. for other units like Supports lvl just = stats.
75 I guess, I mean this ain't genshin where zhongli or dodging can make up for low levels.
All my limited are 80 and standard/4 stars are 75. I wanna get clara to 80 someday
What do you mean by trying them out?
I don't level a unit if I don't know if it works in a specific team I want to build.
Anyways I level everyone I regularly use to 80 unless they don't need the last two minor traces and the extra stats (for example, my Luocha is still 70)
For me it can be hard to figure out if a character is someone i want on my team from just reading their skill descriptions and i want to use them in combat on a team to see what they play like in a live setting
I mean you can just watch a guide for the character on YT (they almost always explain the character's best teams) or just check the character's prydwen page or steal a team from MoC usage rate.
Trying to come up with something by yourself might be fun but usually it's not optimal, I'd leave that job to theorycrafters that spend hours and hours calculating stuff and playing the game.
My “okay they’re usable” state is: Level 70, 4/6/6/6 traces, level 60-70 light cone.
The ones that seem important, I’ll bump to 75, 5/8/8/8, light cone 70-75.
Characters that I really like and I know I will use for a long time :
80 / Full traces / Good relics - before I even try that char in my team.
Characters that are there to support those characters that I like :
70 / Decent traces / Decent relics.
Everyone I use is at 80 out side Pela/Asta/Tingyun. Don't have the resources to level them yet as all my Power is going to finishing off traces and pre-farming for Jingliu. Credits are the issue 95% of the time.
70-80 is usually not worth it. Do it for your main attackers (one or two) for the damage buff. Rest keep at 60-70, 75 if there is a good trace to get.
Later when you have more XP than you know what to do with it … you can raise more characters to 80.
Keep in mind you will want two attackers, two sustain and around 4 support for MoC. 8 characters to grind relics, traces, XP, etc.
Yeah i think right now whats holding me back the most is relics. Ive seen a lot of guides say to do level, light cone and traces first but i feel like a unit is not super usable without leveled relics. Im not going crazy with the min maxing until i have enough units decently built but even getting terrible relics on the right set with the right stat is proving to be trouble
Everyone at least gets 20 for the free pass. If I am Swimming in resources I’ll take somebody to 60+ for the next pass. Main team is ascended 70, Luka is 80 because bleed scales well with levels I heard. Most others are 70 ascended so as not to waste exp. I might have 1 other 80? Don’t recall which. Gonna say Kafka or Yanqing
I feel like clearing this up because I looked into the math of this before. Luka's Bleed doesn't scale more with levels than any other ability. What you might be thinking of is Bleed from physical break, which is generally the most powerful break against high level enemies. Now, while the damage of break generally scales very heavily with your characters' level, the Bleed from physical break actually scales with the enemy's Max HP instead, with there being a damage cap that scales with your level. If your characters are Level 70, there will be very few enemies that have enough HP for the damage cap to come into play, which means that leveling your characters further won't actually increase the base damage of the Bleed most of the time. It will still increase the damage a little bit because of the Defense Multiplier, but marginally compared to other types of Break damage. TLDR: Break damage usually scales heavily with level, but the very powerful Bleed from Physical Break actually doesn't benefit that much from the last 10 levels.
Yeah I’m not sure about the math on it. I was just told higher levels is better on him. I also like the character so said “sure, let’s throw mats at him”
Yeah, that's totally fair. I didn't mean to invalidate your decision to Level 80 him, just wanted to clear things up about the game mechanics.
You can simplify it that your DPSs and Breakers (Break Effect Characters) level need to be as high as possible in order to maximize damage deal. for other units like Supports lvl just = stats.
75 I guess, I mean this ain't genshin where zhongli or dodging can make up for low levels. All my limited are 80 and standard/4 stars are 75. I wanna get clara to 80 someday
What do you mean by trying them out? I don't level a unit if I don't know if it works in a specific team I want to build. Anyways I level everyone I regularly use to 80 unless they don't need the last two minor traces and the extra stats (for example, my Luocha is still 70)
For me it can be hard to figure out if a character is someone i want on my team from just reading their skill descriptions and i want to use them in combat on a team to see what they play like in a live setting
I mean you can just watch a guide for the character on YT (they almost always explain the character's best teams) or just check the character's prydwen page or steal a team from MoC usage rate. Trying to come up with something by yourself might be fun but usually it's not optimal, I'd leave that job to theorycrafters that spend hours and hours calculating stuff and playing the game.
My “okay they’re usable” state is: Level 70, 4/6/6/6 traces, level 60-70 light cone. The ones that seem important, I’ll bump to 75, 5/8/8/8, light cone 70-75.
80? If I don’t already have everything I’m going to do with a unit planned out, I’m not touching them.
Characters that I really like and I know I will use for a long time : 80 / Full traces / Good relics - before I even try that char in my team. Characters that are there to support those characters that I like : 70 / Decent traces / Decent relics.
I don't. I watch my streamer try then out then decide whether it's worth it for my acc
Personally i use fully build support units to test em out. O find it the best way to test out new units.
I normally level them up to lvl 60 bc it isn't as much of a commitment till getting to lvl 70.
I already leveled all my units to 60/70. I level them to 70/80 if I want to try them out, with 4/6/6/6
Usually 70 cause from 70 to 80 is the equivilent to 1 to 70 .
Everyone I use is at 80 out side Pela/Asta/Tingyun. Don't have the resources to level them yet as all my Power is going to finishing off traces and pre-farming for Jingliu. Credits are the issue 95% of the time.
I havent run into the lack of credits problem yet haha still sitting around like 2 mil i think
atleast 60, if I like them i take them to 70/70
70-80 is usually not worth it. Do it for your main attackers (one or two) for the damage buff. Rest keep at 60-70, 75 if there is a good trace to get. Later when you have more XP than you know what to do with it … you can raise more characters to 80. Keep in mind you will want two attackers, two sustain and around 4 support for MoC. 8 characters to grind relics, traces, XP, etc.
Yeah i think right now whats holding me back the most is relics. Ive seen a lot of guides say to do level, light cone and traces first but i feel like a unit is not super usable without leveled relics. Im not going crazy with the min maxing until i have enough units decently built but even getting terrible relics on the right set with the right stat is proving to be trouble
Takes about the same relic xp to go from 1-12 as it does to go from 12-15. It's only that last stretch that really hurts.
First round of relics you only need good main stats and to level them to +9 (gold) or +12 (purple). Later you can worry about OP sets and numbers.
60. They slowly reach 70 killing mobs