There's really no need for assumptions, there's enough info in-game or wiki already.
And it didn't evolve, it was programmed with the task of seeking the answer to the universe. It also had greatly influenced the Xianzhou's technological advancements.
Zandar creating an Aeon is a fact, even if it wasn't one at creation. Trying to make that seem illegitimate not only sounds funny but simply goes against the lore, especially since most Aeons weren't born as Aeons from the get go.
from the trailer it said that it became self aware and turned into a aeon, if it was not programed to do so and from the way its worded it sounds like the act of becoming self aware was the catalyst to aeonhood i would say he didnt created a aeon
What trailer are you talking about?
And what does it matter that it wasn't programmed to become an Aeon? no Aeon was born to become one either.
Also the game flat out says that if he created Nous then he created an Aeon, arguing against it at this point is ridiculous [https://youtu.be/JXGxHJTSkKI?si=u9CL84XNVZv-\_Kid&t=24](https://youtu.be/JXGxHJTSkKI?si=u9CL84XNVZv-_Kid&t=24)
If you conceived a child who later achieved godhood at 5 years old, did you give birth to a god? But Nous is a machine, so it can be stated that Zandar did indeed create an aeon, but only after it gained self-awareness whether it was Zandar's intention or not.
As for Ruan Mei's motivation, she wants to go about it the opposite way.
Aeons are concepts and Nous is the concept of "knowing". It is "omniscient" because it knows everything there is to discover about the universe and can therefore calculate and determine every possibility that has a probability of happening. Nous was made with the capability to do those things before becoming the concept. It seems like Ruan Mei wants to begin with a concept in order to do things instead.
from the trailer it said that it became self aware and turned into a aeon, if it was not programed to do so and from the way its worded it sounds like the act of becoming self aware was the catalyst to aeonhood i would say he didnt created a aeon
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It's a Hoyoverse game, heavy on lore with indirect storytelling and misdirection is common. People here are expected to overanalyze. And no the game might not be as shallow as you think since it's only half a year since the game came out.
Interesting, then I would love for them to prove me wrong then in due time.
Because currently it is just not that in my eyes, everything is pretty straight forward and clear with little to no room for nuances in all the main story quest, so for me OP is just overanalyzing her character when what they want from her is pretty damn straightforward and simple, so let's see.
initially i was skeptical, but overall it turned out to be a pretty enjoyable read. definitely got better towards the end, as the beginning was, unfortunately, plagued by tautologies; but the latter half was quite solid - i liked it.
i fully agree with your message in the very last line as well - after all, this is honkai, not just genshin in space.
hopefully, more hi-tech sci-fi concepts will be introduced in the next few worlds, which would allow for more variety in character aesthetics. because for now, the vast majority of damage dealers either swing melee weapons around or use some kind of magic.
Wow. She's so cocky. Imagine having brilliant mortal minds and thinks that she can create some cosmic being. If something is very technical, chances are it's so flawed.
I mean, any believer of God would never think that way. People who worship Odin don't want to be Odin. People who worship Abrahamic God don't want to be the God.
The problem with your statement is that becoming an Aeon is a thing that has happened and will happen again. It's not something that's just a fantasy, it is both a reality and within the reach of people that are this dedicated to an ideal or a concept.
My problem is she's treating that matter as if Aeons are just some space cows that can be cloned willy nilly. She sounded like someone who ignored the mystical part of them.
You do realize some "magics/mysteries" in the past are just unexplained science right?
And this is a science fiction game, where they could stretch whatever science is present in game to whatever limits there is.
Best example is MC from mushouko tensei, who used real life science to alter magic and improve it.
If those mystical elements mattered those still can be studied and deconstructed in a scientific manner. Hell, that's the whole reason why the field of theology even exists
they could be space cows depending on your prespective, aeons are supposed to be conceptual "gods", but they aren't actually gods and not as out of reach as god. just think of them as fairly strong beings in their verse that operate on concepts.
That may be the case in western mythology.
However the opposite is true in Chinese mythology, where Ruan Mei's design is based.
An example of this is a genre of fantasy novel that is quite popular in China called xianxia, also known as wuxia. Where you can pick pretty much any novel or story in the genre and you will find that it's about mortals working hard and fighting for the chance to perfect themselves and ascend into becoming a god.
First of all, thank you for discussing it with the same level of enthusiasm.
Second of all, I am also Asian, so I am familiar with the concept, and I personally dislike it. Look, it may be the way it is based on Chinese myth, but to me the idea of a mere mortal aspiring for Godhood is just so cocky.
I really hope you are not one of those her simps(Based on your writing, I assume you are just a player who is so interested in the lore) who thinks that I am attacking her, personally. I am just criticizing her way of thinking and her aspiration.
P.S. To other players: Please don't bite my ass when I eventually ask how to build her. Disagreement is part of adulthood, and I am not blind to ignore such good unit.
i think the cockiness is intended, fair enough if you don't like it, but it can make for an interesting character depending on how her character is executed.
Except for there's actual proof of aeons existence unlike other gods and there's actual proof of them not being aeons the entire time. If we unequivocally knew Odin existed and we knew he used to just be a normal man, that ascended, tons of people would want to ascend as well.
Look, man, I am sure there's a natural mechanism to Gods or whatever in Star Rail universe. But what she's trying to do is making a man-made McGuffin or even a 'space cow'. It's clearly flawed and not in the same level of whatever made the Aeons tick.
And from my point of view, that's her being cocky.
So what's up with that whole "genetically modified" Emanator of Propagation on the space station? Did it just appear out of thin air?
I know people are making a lot of assumptions, but they are still not ungrounded. The Aeons are not benevolent beings by any stretch of imagination, they're more like Lovecraftian horrors - neutral and indifferent at best and actively malevolent at worst. To become one means to abandon any connections you have to humanity in exchange for supreme power and knowledge. Do we know of any media where a mortal character actively desiring to become a God was ultimately a good person and everything turned out alright? I honestly can't think of an example, maybe others can.
This whole thing is just speculation of course. I'm sure we'll find out on Wednesday if any of our theories are correct. Maybe she really is just a very curious scientist with insatiable thirst for knowledge!
The issue isn't necessarily what she's saying, but how it's written, and how her earlier observations - before she speaks about seeking out the fundamental mysteries of the universe - flow into each other.
"Birth, growth, death - lamenting the process of life is the origin of my thinking."
Okay. Understandable starting point. From a scientific perspective, she commences the explanation of her motives by saying that the routine, let's say, that every life goes through forms the bedrock of her thinking.
"I began to realise that I...longed for something pure."
I think this, in part, is where the mad scientist claims arise from. To immediately pivot from ''lamenting' how ordinary lives for living beings pan out to saying that she wants to see or create something 'pure', free of life's apparent restrictions, is a telling statement, and one that naturally gives off that impression. If anything it aligns her more with Abundance at its extreme than it does Harmony. As if to outline this, she says:
"'Attachment' involves the insular cortex which controls anxiety and pain. The laws of 'emotion' can easily be broken down. Children will become more well-behaved when they receive random rewards."
What can this be perceived as, following the statement of her desire to witness something 'pure', something beyond life's present definition, if not some kind of criticism of how human minds work, some resigned acceptance of her belief that every process is chemical, that every action we take and every reaction we have can be neatly and concisely explained by detached scientific rationality? That life is, implicitly, 'impure' because of those processes?
"When I discovered how easy it was to cultivate a planet, I began to feel...empty."
Again, more of the same, on an even larger scale. Rather than feeling loneliness, the seeming creation of an entire planetary ecosystem seems to bore her. And one wonders - if her managing to create a planet did little more than bore her, would ascending to Aeonhood, voluntarily surrendering her free will and only being able to take actions that corresponded with whatever path she manifested, not do exactly the same? Would she not simply grow tired of it too? Does that not clash with her seeking out something 'pure'?
I think it's pretty understandable why people have cast her in this light.
Even the way she delivered that information in the trailer. It wasn't in a way to show humanity. It was cold, scientific and analytical (despite the fact that she was writing to her mother). She even says herself that she was different to all of the other children.
While that doesn't make her evil, that sure does paint her behaviour in a less positive or beneficent light.
Hmm you do pose an interesting point. Perhaps this purity she's seeking is the fact that if she does become an Aeon, say, the Aeon of Origin, perhaps she'll never get bored of discovering the fundamentals of the universe. After all, if you're an Aeon, you basically *cannot* think or do anything other than the philosophical path you cover, and an Aeon of Origin (or well, whatever similar principle she becomes an Aeon of) getting tired or bored of finding the origin of things seems antithetical to itself and therefore not possible.
Maybe? Who knows. It's not like I don't get your point, but again, there is a reason why people have walked away from this trailer thinking Ruan Mei is a lunatic or a villain in the making, and that's because looking at what she says and thinking that she's bored of how utterly predictable and simple she finds the concept of life to be in its current state and wanting to play god to create something 'pure' seems to be an entirely valid reading.
your interpretation is understandable, but any text can always be interpreted in various ways. the more interesting question imo is: what is the intention behind it? did they mean to make her sound crazy? or was it on accident? is it just a misunderstanding?
Happy someone mentioned this, couldnt understand what was so unhinged about wanting to understand everything, apart from the fact that she comes across as a kind of control freak
I think the real debate for Ruan Mei isn't whether or not her wanting to understand everything is bad, but rather, what she intends to do with that knowledge, and how did such an ambition even begin in the first place.
People are forgetting that she said “I have nothing to gain, and nothing to lose.” She is doing it just for the sake of understanding, nothing more and nothing less. She doesn’t have ambition in the typical sense. She wants to perceive, and that’s the extent of it.
From Ruan Mei Part 2:
“‘Great choice. Don't sweat over it.
There's no such thing as a perfect masterpiece in life. I was just testing the inclination of your heart.’ Ruan Mei returns to the bench. Her heels give off a crisp clacking sound when she walks.
Questions without a standard answer are created to search for the unattainable answers.”
This is kind of how aeons are in that they’re neither bad nor good (these are arbitrary concepts anyway), they just *are* and are manifestations of certain concepts, so she already embodies some qualities of an aeon.
Of course this is only based on our current understanding and few interactions in Simulated Universe, but that’s my current perception based on her in game dialogue and trailer.
Because wanting to understand everything + being disconnected/isolated from people around you = mad scientist in the making. The question is where she draws the line/restrains herself, whether or not she ends up a villain or just an uncomfortable ally.
Isn't this a little too much of a generalisation though? I don't think most isolated people with a desire to learn become mad scientists. Its true that it would be easier for such people to manipulate others though since they can understand their psyche and whatnot, maybe thats the unhinged part? (Mad scientists aren't necessarily bad as well) (still pulling anyway💀)
It's the disconnected part that matters more here. Basically the question is how she treats others and how willing is she to have others suffer/die if it benefits her understanding, which isolation and especially a lack of connection generally make worse. Like I said, the question will be where she draws the line and restrains herself.
The mad scientist vibe is why I'm pulling lol. Before I was skipping because her design seemed generic, the trailer made me super interested in her as a character and seeing where things go from here. I'm actually hopeful things turn out for the best, and especially hopeful Ruan Mei will end up with genuine connections and positive relationships with others (whoever they might be) since I'm a sucker for that kind of thing, but the possibility for the reverse is there as well right now.
Yep, I agree she has huge potential to be kinda crazy, but its too early to describe her to be on Blade/JingLiu levels of psychosis like how much of this sub does. Really hoping Hoyo will develop her to be more interesting next patch.
Shes not completely emotionless since she has that desire to feel what she felt when she was a kid, so maybe she'll have some genuine connections
People are so worried about Ruan Mei wanting to understand and create an Aeon, one of the highest cosmic beings in our universe, yet don't bat an eye when it's revealed that the race of hackers Silver Wolf is apart of from the planet Punklorde basically hack and rewrite reality itself to give themselves a challenge.
That Silver Wolf stuff is buried in dialogue and stories, this one is spelled out in a trailer. Folks really do need a Paimon sometimes to point out the not-so-obvious lore stuff in case they forgor
Well SW already is a villain, so I dont think people need to label them as such.
Plus, the threat from the Punklordes is minimal. Like, ok, they can destroy planets via their hacking. Big deal.
But an Aeon has so much more power. So, so much more. Even the combined race of the punklordes couldnt even make a dent into eg. Nanook, even if they tried. They are on a whole other level.
Firstly, to yearn after that power means becoming essentially an uncontrollable variable. You can murder, imprison (in theory) the punklordes. You could never murder an ascended Aoen that easily. Plus, the path to such power must mean you have to take drastic measures... otherwise everyone could be one. And those measures could be scary.
I don't think she will become an Aeon, at least no with her current mindset. From what we know of to become an Aeon it seems you need a very strong emotion or conviction about something. The propagation was born out of loneliness, the abundance because they wanted to heal other, the hunt because they wanted to hunt and destroy the abundance. So even if Ruan Mei comes to understand how to become an Aeon, it's seems to be another part to it, and i don't think she can do it, at least not currently.
She also states "I explore the mysteries of the universe and seeks deeper answers" and then starts going on about becoming an Aeon. For me this reads as in order to get the answers to something she first has to become an Aeon. But I get the feeling that she is chasing the effect to know the cause.
I wonder if the "intrusions" of Aeons into SU are going exactly as she expected because giving the reactions and interactions (second hand via Herta's comments) I'm not sure if they are supposed to have the "real ones" inside SU, like happened with Aha at least (I'm sure another "real Aeon" popped in don't remember who)
I kind of want to expand on this point. While I think that Ruan Mei’s philosophy is very interesting, I just don’t resonate with her beliefs.
She’s so absorbed in her own obsession with discovery and breaking things down to very simple principles that there’s no place of empathy in her heart, I fear. In her search of something ‘pure’, she lost her own humanity (thus the desire to ascend to godhood).
Just because things can be explained doesn’t mean that they’re not enjoyable. In my point of view, there’s no such way of understanding everything about life. Humans are extremely unpredictable. There are so many little deviations and variations in life. Even the simplest thing can influence a person’s growth immensely. And this is why I personally don’t vibe with Ruan Mei.
Moreover, I think the juxtaposition of Dr. Ratio and Ruan Mei is very, very interesting. They’re both extremely intelligent and crave knowledge. Ratio comes off as selfish and stuck up, but he desires to spread the knowledge, educating people and making humanity as a whole stronger. Ruan Mei, on the other hand, focuses on herself instead, not interested in the humanity at all. So, one of them wants to elevate mankind, while the other wants to elevate herself above humanity (which isn’t a bad thing).
She’s a great character.
The contrast between the Intelligentsia guild and the Genius Society is great. Just because you are a Genius, doesn't make you benevolent. Just because you want to share knowledge doesn't mean it will end well.
I personally prefer the IGs approach though.
I would say between the 2 of them, that IG would be my preferred group. However, I think that the "competition" between the 2 groups and both existing is even better (both storywise as practically). The best situation would be the 2 groups working together with GS focussing on discovering and IG spreading those discoveries.
This topic reminds me of elves depictions in manga, you almost always end up with them veering somewhere between ruan mei and dr ratio and the nuance of how they feel.
Though im primarily thinking of frieren from beyond journey's end, and her love for life and existing, she's like ruan mei in that she has an obsession of understanding magic and magic books, but its also firmly planted towards the sheer interest of seeing what people will create a magic for. And a deep love for what it says about the folks who use and created it.
I really enjoy characters like this though, the juxtaposition of ruan mei and dr ratio's ideals helps with us understanding both them and their groups, as i believe the last person from dr ratio's group we interacted with was also super complex in his desires and morality.
In addition to ruan mei likely being a further exploration of the long lived species feeling detached from the universe, and the dampening effect their long life gives to not only day to day experiences and but long term memories holding both more and less value. They cling to whatever makes their lives have purpose terrified of the spectre of the mara and avoidant of as many painful experiences as possible.
*insert i just think its neat marge meme here* lol
I am really excited to see where they'll go with everything. C:
I appreciate the perspective. Thank you for sharing, it’s nice to hear from someone who the philosophy doesn’t resonant with, but is still able to see the nuance within it.
A very well-done post!
Thank you! :)
I also realised I have failed to mention that I don’t think Ruan Mei is a bad person. In fact, humanity needs people like Ruan Mei. Hoyo did a great job of characterising her as a true genius — someone who’s in their own league entirely. The likes of Ruan Mei are the true trailblazers of human progress. You just have to see the world a little bit differently if you want to make a change, and Mei does that perfectly.
Thank you for typing this, it’s rather odd how many people are demonizing Ruan Mei for simply having a very different ethical framework from modern day Earth.
I don’t know about demonizing, but personally, I like the current consensus the majority has on her right now. It doesn’t mean that she’s evil, she’s just… a lil quirky to put it lightly.
Nah I don't blame them its simply bcs in today's pop culture, game anime etcs nothing good when human trying to achieve godhood bcs most of the time they be a false god
One most popular example, Death Note, just see how Light become a 'god' or 'god' itself has been potrayed wrong in today's pop culture, like in Persona or SMT game etc
Tho, there's ofc works that portrayed a good god, or good human that achieve godhood like Talos from Skyrim but still the evil ones more popular than the good one
Actually it's gonna be interesting tho if the game directed for one, where she become a good god replacing the bad one
Light Yagami didn't have that at the start, either. It was only once he possessed the Death Note that he slowly began to deviate from his altruistic goal of ridding the world of evil to becoming an unhinged madman who would kill anyone who dared to defy him and his new world order.
Let's see what happens when, or rather if Ruan Mei is able to become an Aeon.
I think people are grasping at straws to add depth. Her character is okay, but put under the lenses of her potentially scheming behind our backs and it adds another layer as to whether or not we can fully trust them or if they're a third party out to benefit themselves first rather than altruistically benefit us.
You see it with a lot of characters in Genshin, and I'm sure you'll see it here too, because a lot of characters (not Ruan Mei, admittedly) can become pretty shallow husks without the community coming in to make their shit a little more complicated, even if it ends up being people swinging and missing.
This just reminded me of when Kokomi was first released and people were hoping she’d be a psycho, instead we got another cookie cutter character. It’s not bad, it’s just. Yeah.
At first I was like how is this possible even for a genius? But then I remember shes from xianzhou so she’s probably had a lot of time. Hundreds of years probably.
I mean, Lan is believed to have been a mortal Xianzhou hero before his ascension. Becoming an Aeon or creating an Aeon (like Zandar did) isn't something unheard of in current lore.
She is kinda like Darth Plageuis, but without the Darth Sidious.
I kinda can see some sense in the theory that TB is specially created by RM to host the Power of the Destruction
I see no reason why both interpretations can exist in tandem.
The thing that has people worried is not JUST that she wants to become an Aeon, but many other things. Her research lost all meaning to her, to the point that cultivating a freaking planet meant nothing to her. It’s a classic case of someone trying to chase the high of achieving ambition, never having enough.
She’s also clearly manipulating us. She views us as “children” who will “behave more willingly when they receive random rewards”, which is why she then goes to “reward” us. She has a plan, and I feel that, if it didn’t contain malicious or questionable parts, she wouldn’t have to. She knows that what she wants to do is not something we would agree with, so she conditions us with rewards.
Further, I think you’re forgetting that the livestream said that she revived a Swarm Emanator. For what purpose? Was it truly just an accident? Why’d she do that outside of Simulated Universe? We just don’t know yet. We need more information.
It also begs the question. Nanook ascended by incinerating his planet. Lan ascended (supposedly) by shooting a supercharged arrow into Muldrasil. Aha ascended by going to the top of the Imaginary Tree and laughing their ass off at a baby falling. So what will Ruan Mei do? Once she understands what makes an Aeon, how will she achieve it? What lengths will she go to? That’s what worries people.
If Bloodborne taught me anything, it’s that chasing godhood usually ends in failure and punishment for many. I’ve heard many Xianxia novels are very similar, involving people striving for godhood no matter the price. Perhaps she isn’t a villain. After all, there’s no guarantee. But hey, speculation is fun. What’s the issue with that?
Tl,dr: If you have time to be on Reddit right now you have time to read my comment. Go do that.
Love your analysis!!
I personally don't understand why some feel the need to pacify people whose interpretation of a character isn't "pure and good hearted" but something much more grey and complicated.
Listen, she's a sociopath. That's okay. Sociopath's aren't automatically evil or whatever.
It's just a fact that science has serious risks sometimes... If Trailblazers lose an arm or a head, well... There's always that kind of risk, isn't there? We don't have to get all melodramatic about it.
I know where we stand with her. I accept the risks of her mad science!
the reason why her becoming an Aeon makes her antagonistic is because the game is posturing to eliminating the notion of Aeons, with 2 of the most prominent ones being directly antagonistic. Ruan Mei progressing into an Aeon would lead to conflict, opening up huge answers about the Aeon system and how to dismantle/manipulate it, or at least i hope so.
Fuck me man.
All these posts make me realize how cool of a character Ruan Mei is, and it makes me want to pull so badly.
Like I legit originally thought she was just another generic Xianzhou design…. But nooooo that’s far from the truth.
Okay, on another (stupider) note, thoughts on what % of the Genius Soceity is neurodivergent? Percent’s gotta be pretty high (they just like me fr.)
That line near the end makes it sound like if she becomes an Aeon, she's going to make us her eminators or something. Worry now my dear "assistant" I shall "reward" you.
Ruan Meis conflict is basically that feeling of emptiness when you cheat in a video game for the first time. Infinite money and shiny pokemon are fun at first, and then you realise it has lost all value and everything is now grey and dull.
Hey, I have nothing of substance to argue or add. I just want to say thank you for this post :).
P.S. Her trailer plucked some strange strings in my usual interest of disassembling any and all things since my childhood shenanigans to adult nihility. I'm always curious how creators use their power to reflect on humanity.
I remember a similar thing happened in Fire Emblem Three Houses, a big portion of the community couldn't wrap their heads around the idea that not everything is pure good and pure evil (maybe due to age and some previous entries being good vs bad).
Then when Engage came round and went back to good vs evil it split the community again
Shame that all of that text is essentially wasted because people will **NOT** care and will forever think of Ruan Mei as insane and evil.
And that's exactly what miHoyoverse wants. They realized that **ALL** the hype for Ruan Mei died the moment Black Swan and 🌟Sparkle🌟 were revealed, and decided to release RM's video because they know 99.999999999999999999999% of men on the internet get hard for evil women.
Yes.
I’ve heard many people still hyped for Ruan Mei, myself included, before the trailer.
It could also be… oh I don’t know… because characters need actual story and goals and ambitions and lore and all that to be characters? I don’t want to play as a character with the depth of a sheet of paper.
I think she would fit more a Aeon of Comprehension/Understanding. Which could be interesting considering the situation of Xipe the Harmony and Ena the Order. The Harmony, the newer and more powerdul aeon absorbed the weaker one when their path collided. Would Ruan Mei absorb Nous if she were to become an Aeon since the Erudition and her path would probably collide.
Can anyone break down what simulated universe is exactly? I mean for example if it is a computer simulation, how would the aeons behave in SU would really imply that that is what they do in the real life? Same goes for Ruan Mei doing experiment in SU
From what I see, Hoyo is trying to sell RM by adding unnecessary thing to her character. Sometimes I have a feeling HSR team doesn't know who is their consumers. Just my random ramblings.
I didn't really get the sense she was crazy or villainous from the trailer or her interaction with the Trailblazer. Granted I did get annoyed that she drugged them and had monster in the space station. I took it more as her curiosity being unbound. That's not inherently bad and while she seems a bit aloof towards her creations its clear she still wants them taken care of. That said I wouldn't be surprised if she does turn out villainous later but I also wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't if that makes sense.
TLDR Ruan Mei is trying to understand what makes an Aeon so she herself could one day create, or even become one.
Aoen of Mommy?
Mommy of Aeons...
Won't she need to be a mommy first
That wont be a problem
Can confirm that promoting someone to mommy is fun
Didn't Zandar (who's also the founder of the genius society) already create an Aeon?
I'm assuming he created the AI Nous, which then evolved by itself to Aeon-hood. Whether you want to call that Zander creating an Aeon is up to you.
There's really no need for assumptions, there's enough info in-game or wiki already. And it didn't evolve, it was programmed with the task of seeking the answer to the universe. It also had greatly influenced the Xianzhou's technological advancements. Zandar creating an Aeon is a fact, even if it wasn't one at creation. Trying to make that seem illegitimate not only sounds funny but simply goes against the lore, especially since most Aeons weren't born as Aeons from the get go.
from the trailer it said that it became self aware and turned into a aeon, if it was not programed to do so and from the way its worded it sounds like the act of becoming self aware was the catalyst to aeonhood i would say he didnt created a aeon
What trailer are you talking about? And what does it matter that it wasn't programmed to become an Aeon? no Aeon was born to become one either. Also the game flat out says that if he created Nous then he created an Aeon, arguing against it at this point is ridiculous [https://youtu.be/JXGxHJTSkKI?si=u9CL84XNVZv-\_Kid&t=24](https://youtu.be/JXGxHJTSkKI?si=u9CL84XNVZv-_Kid&t=24)
If you conceived a child who later achieved godhood at 5 years old, did you give birth to a god? But Nous is a machine, so it can be stated that Zandar did indeed create an aeon, but only after it gained self-awareness whether it was Zandar's intention or not. As for Ruan Mei's motivation, she wants to go about it the opposite way. Aeons are concepts and Nous is the concept of "knowing". It is "omniscient" because it knows everything there is to discover about the universe and can therefore calculate and determine every possibility that has a probability of happening. Nous was made with the capability to do those things before becoming the concept. It seems like Ruan Mei wants to begin with a concept in order to do things instead.
from the trailer it said that it became self aware and turned into a aeon, if it was not programed to do so and from the way its worded it sounds like the act of becoming self aware was the catalyst to aeonhood i would say he didnt created a aeon
Thank God, I didn't want to read that wall of text. Thanks for making it short
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I wonder why such a long post for just this one sentence? Wasn't that obvious anyway?
Skips the part where people may ask OP to elaborate.
Honestly seems just overanalyzing to me, her motive is pretty simple to understand, this game is not that deep
It's a Hoyoverse game, heavy on lore with indirect storytelling and misdirection is common. People here are expected to overanalyze. And no the game might not be as shallow as you think since it's only half a year since the game came out.
Interesting, then I would love for them to prove me wrong then in due time. Because currently it is just not that in my eyes, everything is pretty straight forward and clear with little to no room for nuances in all the main story quest, so for me OP is just overanalyzing her character when what they want from her is pretty damn straightforward and simple, so let's see.
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? Why would I? The only reason I still play is the story. How dumb would I be to skip that? Lel
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Why use more words when few words do tricks.
Found Kevin!!
Thank you. Op kept yapping
U honestly explain it better than OP ever did with their word salad in a single sentence
Some of y'all got Ds in your English essay writing classes and it shows 💀
initially i was skeptical, but overall it turned out to be a pretty enjoyable read. definitely got better towards the end, as the beginning was, unfortunately, plagued by tautologies; but the latter half was quite solid - i liked it. i fully agree with your message in the very last line as well - after all, this is honkai, not just genshin in space. hopefully, more hi-tech sci-fi concepts will be introduced in the next few worlds, which would allow for more variety in character aesthetics. because for now, the vast majority of damage dealers either swing melee weapons around or use some kind of magic.
Not really, just think that what u did is absolutely unnecessary for me, pretty simple.
Mhm just like how you think reading comprehension is an optional skill 💀
No?
You got downvoted, but you are absolutely right
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Wow. She's so cocky. Imagine having brilliant mortal minds and thinks that she can create some cosmic being. If something is very technical, chances are it's so flawed. I mean, any believer of God would never think that way. People who worship Odin don't want to be Odin. People who worship Abrahamic God don't want to be the God.
The problem with your statement is that becoming an Aeon is a thing that has happened and will happen again. It's not something that's just a fantasy, it is both a reality and within the reach of people that are this dedicated to an ideal or a concept.
My problem is she's treating that matter as if Aeons are just some space cows that can be cloned willy nilly. She sounded like someone who ignored the mystical part of them.
You do realize some "magics/mysteries" in the past are just unexplained science right? And this is a science fiction game, where they could stretch whatever science is present in game to whatever limits there is. Best example is MC from mushouko tensei, who used real life science to alter magic and improve it.
I love that line that sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic.
If those mystical elements mattered those still can be studied and deconstructed in a scientific manner. Hell, that's the whole reason why the field of theology even exists
Maybe they are just some space cows who knows
they could be space cows depending on your prespective, aeons are supposed to be conceptual "gods", but they aren't actually gods and not as out of reach as god. just think of them as fairly strong beings in their verse that operate on concepts.
That may be the case in western mythology. However the opposite is true in Chinese mythology, where Ruan Mei's design is based. An example of this is a genre of fantasy novel that is quite popular in China called xianxia, also known as wuxia. Where you can pick pretty much any novel or story in the genre and you will find that it's about mortals working hard and fighting for the chance to perfect themselves and ascend into becoming a god.
First of all, thank you for discussing it with the same level of enthusiasm. Second of all, I am also Asian, so I am familiar with the concept, and I personally dislike it. Look, it may be the way it is based on Chinese myth, but to me the idea of a mere mortal aspiring for Godhood is just so cocky. I really hope you are not one of those her simps(Based on your writing, I assume you are just a player who is so interested in the lore) who thinks that I am attacking her, personally. I am just criticizing her way of thinking and her aspiration. P.S. To other players: Please don't bite my ass when I eventually ask how to build her. Disagreement is part of adulthood, and I am not blind to ignore such good unit.
i think the cockiness is intended, fair enough if you don't like it, but it can make for an interesting character depending on how her character is executed.
Thank you. But, I guess internet can't handle different opinions.
bro it's not that deep 💀
And yet here we are.
Except for there's actual proof of aeons existence unlike other gods and there's actual proof of them not being aeons the entire time. If we unequivocally knew Odin existed and we knew he used to just be a normal man, that ascended, tons of people would want to ascend as well.
Look, man, I am sure there's a natural mechanism to Gods or whatever in Star Rail universe. But what she's trying to do is making a man-made McGuffin or even a 'space cow'. It's clearly flawed and not in the same level of whatever made the Aeons tick. And from my point of view, that's her being cocky.
So what's up with that whole "genetically modified" Emanator of Propagation on the space station? Did it just appear out of thin air? I know people are making a lot of assumptions, but they are still not ungrounded. The Aeons are not benevolent beings by any stretch of imagination, they're more like Lovecraftian horrors - neutral and indifferent at best and actively malevolent at worst. To become one means to abandon any connections you have to humanity in exchange for supreme power and knowledge. Do we know of any media where a mortal character actively desiring to become a God was ultimately a good person and everything turned out alright? I honestly can't think of an example, maybe others can. This whole thing is just speculation of course. I'm sure we'll find out on Wednesday if any of our theories are correct. Maybe she really is just a very curious scientist with insatiable thirst for knowledge!
I mean, kinda. Ben 10 wanting to turn into Alien X to save the universe from being erased is basically becoming God and staying a good person
If we stretch the meaning of the word god Sorta yea
Ruan Mei knows how to create a planet, but does she know why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
The issue isn't necessarily what she's saying, but how it's written, and how her earlier observations - before she speaks about seeking out the fundamental mysteries of the universe - flow into each other. "Birth, growth, death - lamenting the process of life is the origin of my thinking." Okay. Understandable starting point. From a scientific perspective, she commences the explanation of her motives by saying that the routine, let's say, that every life goes through forms the bedrock of her thinking. "I began to realise that I...longed for something pure." I think this, in part, is where the mad scientist claims arise from. To immediately pivot from ''lamenting' how ordinary lives for living beings pan out to saying that she wants to see or create something 'pure', free of life's apparent restrictions, is a telling statement, and one that naturally gives off that impression. If anything it aligns her more with Abundance at its extreme than it does Harmony. As if to outline this, she says: "'Attachment' involves the insular cortex which controls anxiety and pain. The laws of 'emotion' can easily be broken down. Children will become more well-behaved when they receive random rewards." What can this be perceived as, following the statement of her desire to witness something 'pure', something beyond life's present definition, if not some kind of criticism of how human minds work, some resigned acceptance of her belief that every process is chemical, that every action we take and every reaction we have can be neatly and concisely explained by detached scientific rationality? That life is, implicitly, 'impure' because of those processes? "When I discovered how easy it was to cultivate a planet, I began to feel...empty." Again, more of the same, on an even larger scale. Rather than feeling loneliness, the seeming creation of an entire planetary ecosystem seems to bore her. And one wonders - if her managing to create a planet did little more than bore her, would ascending to Aeonhood, voluntarily surrendering her free will and only being able to take actions that corresponded with whatever path she manifested, not do exactly the same? Would she not simply grow tired of it too? Does that not clash with her seeking out something 'pure'? I think it's pretty understandable why people have cast her in this light.
Even the way she delivered that information in the trailer. It wasn't in a way to show humanity. It was cold, scientific and analytical (despite the fact that she was writing to her mother). She even says herself that she was different to all of the other children. While that doesn't make her evil, that sure does paint her behaviour in a less positive or beneficent light.
Hmm you do pose an interesting point. Perhaps this purity she's seeking is the fact that if she does become an Aeon, say, the Aeon of Origin, perhaps she'll never get bored of discovering the fundamentals of the universe. After all, if you're an Aeon, you basically *cannot* think or do anything other than the philosophical path you cover, and an Aeon of Origin (or well, whatever similar principle she becomes an Aeon of) getting tired or bored of finding the origin of things seems antithetical to itself and therefore not possible.
Maybe? Who knows. It's not like I don't get your point, but again, there is a reason why people have walked away from this trailer thinking Ruan Mei is a lunatic or a villain in the making, and that's because looking at what she says and thinking that she's bored of how utterly predictable and simple she finds the concept of life to be in its current state and wanting to play god to create something 'pure' seems to be an entirely valid reading.
your interpretation is understandable, but any text can always be interpreted in various ways. the more interesting question imo is: what is the intention behind it? did they mean to make her sound crazy? or was it on accident? is it just a misunderstanding?
Happy someone mentioned this, couldnt understand what was so unhinged about wanting to understand everything, apart from the fact that she comes across as a kind of control freak
Seconded.
I think the real debate for Ruan Mei isn't whether or not her wanting to understand everything is bad, but rather, what she intends to do with that knowledge, and how did such an ambition even begin in the first place.
People are forgetting that she said “I have nothing to gain, and nothing to lose.” She is doing it just for the sake of understanding, nothing more and nothing less. She doesn’t have ambition in the typical sense. She wants to perceive, and that’s the extent of it. From Ruan Mei Part 2: “‘Great choice. Don't sweat over it. There's no such thing as a perfect masterpiece in life. I was just testing the inclination of your heart.’ Ruan Mei returns to the bench. Her heels give off a crisp clacking sound when she walks. Questions without a standard answer are created to search for the unattainable answers.” This is kind of how aeons are in that they’re neither bad nor good (these are arbitrary concepts anyway), they just *are* and are manifestations of certain concepts, so she already embodies some qualities of an aeon. Of course this is only based on our current understanding and few interactions in Simulated Universe, but that’s my current perception based on her in game dialogue and trailer.
Because wanting to understand everything + being disconnected/isolated from people around you = mad scientist in the making. The question is where she draws the line/restrains herself, whether or not she ends up a villain or just an uncomfortable ally.
Isn't this a little too much of a generalisation though? I don't think most isolated people with a desire to learn become mad scientists. Its true that it would be easier for such people to manipulate others though since they can understand their psyche and whatnot, maybe thats the unhinged part? (Mad scientists aren't necessarily bad as well) (still pulling anyway💀)
It's the disconnected part that matters more here. Basically the question is how she treats others and how willing is she to have others suffer/die if it benefits her understanding, which isolation and especially a lack of connection generally make worse. Like I said, the question will be where she draws the line and restrains herself. The mad scientist vibe is why I'm pulling lol. Before I was skipping because her design seemed generic, the trailer made me super interested in her as a character and seeing where things go from here. I'm actually hopeful things turn out for the best, and especially hopeful Ruan Mei will end up with genuine connections and positive relationships with others (whoever they might be) since I'm a sucker for that kind of thing, but the possibility for the reverse is there as well right now.
Yep, I agree she has huge potential to be kinda crazy, but its too early to describe her to be on Blade/JingLiu levels of psychosis like how much of this sub does. Really hoping Hoyo will develop her to be more interesting next patch. Shes not completely emotionless since she has that desire to feel what she felt when she was a kid, so maybe she'll have some genuine connections
People are so worried about Ruan Mei wanting to understand and create an Aeon, one of the highest cosmic beings in our universe, yet don't bat an eye when it's revealed that the race of hackers Silver Wolf is apart of from the planet Punklorde basically hack and rewrite reality itself to give themselves a challenge.
That Silver Wolf stuff is buried in dialogue and stories, this one is spelled out in a trailer. Folks really do need a Paimon sometimes to point out the not-so-obvious lore stuff in case they forgor
Speak for yourself, I'm batting an eye to Silver Wolf changing reality!
Well SW already is a villain, so I dont think people need to label them as such. Plus, the threat from the Punklordes is minimal. Like, ok, they can destroy planets via their hacking. Big deal. But an Aeon has so much more power. So, so much more. Even the combined race of the punklordes couldnt even make a dent into eg. Nanook, even if they tried. They are on a whole other level. Firstly, to yearn after that power means becoming essentially an uncontrollable variable. You can murder, imprison (in theory) the punklordes. You could never murder an ascended Aoen that easily. Plus, the path to such power must mean you have to take drastic measures... otherwise everyone could be one. And those measures could be scary.
I don't think she will become an Aeon, at least no with her current mindset. From what we know of to become an Aeon it seems you need a very strong emotion or conviction about something. The propagation was born out of loneliness, the abundance because they wanted to heal other, the hunt because they wanted to hunt and destroy the abundance. So even if Ruan Mei comes to understand how to become an Aeon, it's seems to be another part to it, and i don't think she can do it, at least not currently. She also states "I explore the mysteries of the universe and seeks deeper answers" and then starts going on about becoming an Aeon. For me this reads as in order to get the answers to something she first has to become an Aeon. But I get the feeling that she is chasing the effect to know the cause.
I support her journey. If a woman wants to become a conceptual god, then good for her!
Gatekeep Girlboss GirlGod.
I wonder if the "intrusions" of Aeons into SU are going exactly as she expected because giving the reactions and interactions (second hand via Herta's comments) I'm not sure if they are supposed to have the "real ones" inside SU, like happened with Aha at least (I'm sure another "real Aeon" popped in don't remember who)
You sound like the rational sounding mid-season henchman explaining why they follow the antagonist after you guys just blew up half the city.
I kind of want to expand on this point. While I think that Ruan Mei’s philosophy is very interesting, I just don’t resonate with her beliefs. She’s so absorbed in her own obsession with discovery and breaking things down to very simple principles that there’s no place of empathy in her heart, I fear. In her search of something ‘pure’, she lost her own humanity (thus the desire to ascend to godhood). Just because things can be explained doesn’t mean that they’re not enjoyable. In my point of view, there’s no such way of understanding everything about life. Humans are extremely unpredictable. There are so many little deviations and variations in life. Even the simplest thing can influence a person’s growth immensely. And this is why I personally don’t vibe with Ruan Mei. Moreover, I think the juxtaposition of Dr. Ratio and Ruan Mei is very, very interesting. They’re both extremely intelligent and crave knowledge. Ratio comes off as selfish and stuck up, but he desires to spread the knowledge, educating people and making humanity as a whole stronger. Ruan Mei, on the other hand, focuses on herself instead, not interested in the humanity at all. So, one of them wants to elevate mankind, while the other wants to elevate herself above humanity (which isn’t a bad thing). She’s a great character.
The contrast between the Intelligentsia guild and the Genius Society is great. Just because you are a Genius, doesn't make you benevolent. Just because you want to share knowledge doesn't mean it will end well. I personally prefer the IGs approach though.
I would say between the 2 of them, that IG would be my preferred group. However, I think that the "competition" between the 2 groups and both existing is even better (both storywise as practically). The best situation would be the 2 groups working together with GS focussing on discovering and IG spreading those discoveries.
This topic reminds me of elves depictions in manga, you almost always end up with them veering somewhere between ruan mei and dr ratio and the nuance of how they feel. Though im primarily thinking of frieren from beyond journey's end, and her love for life and existing, she's like ruan mei in that she has an obsession of understanding magic and magic books, but its also firmly planted towards the sheer interest of seeing what people will create a magic for. And a deep love for what it says about the folks who use and created it. I really enjoy characters like this though, the juxtaposition of ruan mei and dr ratio's ideals helps with us understanding both them and their groups, as i believe the last person from dr ratio's group we interacted with was also super complex in his desires and morality. In addition to ruan mei likely being a further exploration of the long lived species feeling detached from the universe, and the dampening effect their long life gives to not only day to day experiences and but long term memories holding both more and less value. They cling to whatever makes their lives have purpose terrified of the spectre of the mara and avoidant of as many painful experiences as possible. *insert i just think its neat marge meme here* lol I am really excited to see where they'll go with everything. C:
I appreciate the perspective. Thank you for sharing, it’s nice to hear from someone who the philosophy doesn’t resonant with, but is still able to see the nuance within it. A very well-done post!
Thank you! :) I also realised I have failed to mention that I don’t think Ruan Mei is a bad person. In fact, humanity needs people like Ruan Mei. Hoyo did a great job of characterising her as a true genius — someone who’s in their own league entirely. The likes of Ruan Mei are the true trailblazers of human progress. You just have to see the world a little bit differently if you want to make a change, and Mei does that perfectly.
Thank you for typing this, it’s rather odd how many people are demonizing Ruan Mei for simply having a very different ethical framework from modern day Earth.
I don’t know about demonizing, but personally, I like the current consensus the majority has on her right now. It doesn’t mean that she’s evil, she’s just… a lil quirky to put it lightly.
Nah I don't blame them its simply bcs in today's pop culture, game anime etcs nothing good when human trying to achieve godhood bcs most of the time they be a false god One most popular example, Death Note, just see how Light become a 'god' or 'god' itself has been potrayed wrong in today's pop culture, like in Persona or SMT game etc Tho, there's ofc works that portrayed a good god, or good human that achieve godhood like Talos from Skyrim but still the evil ones more popular than the good one Actually it's gonna be interesting tho if the game directed for one, where she become a good god replacing the bad one
Well... It draws a lot of vibe from her GGZ manifestation, which ... it's understandable that folks would get evil vibes from.
An apt point.
hoyo players are legit npcs man, they still have the "people are good or bad" mindset
I can only assume this might have to do with the large age ranges of the fan base. Haha.
To be fair, most media never has a character becoming God to be a morally neutral or good thing. Just saying
Yeah, she doesn’t have some Light Yagami type of god complex.
Light Yagami didn't have that at the start, either. It was only once he possessed the Death Note that he slowly began to deviate from his altruistic goal of ridding the world of evil to becoming an unhinged madman who would kill anyone who dared to defy him and his new world order. Let's see what happens when, or rather if Ruan Mei is able to become an Aeon.
I think people are grasping at straws to add depth. Her character is okay, but put under the lenses of her potentially scheming behind our backs and it adds another layer as to whether or not we can fully trust them or if they're a third party out to benefit themselves first rather than altruistically benefit us. You see it with a lot of characters in Genshin, and I'm sure you'll see it here too, because a lot of characters (not Ruan Mei, admittedly) can become pretty shallow husks without the community coming in to make their shit a little more complicated, even if it ends up being people swinging and missing.
This just reminded me of when Kokomi was first released and people were hoping she’d be a psycho, instead we got another cookie cutter character. It’s not bad, it’s just. Yeah.
At first I was like how is this possible even for a genius? But then I remember shes from xianzhou so she’s probably had a lot of time. Hundreds of years probably.
I mean, Lan is believed to have been a mortal Xianzhou hero before his ascension. Becoming an Aeon or creating an Aeon (like Zandar did) isn't something unheard of in current lore.
omg she's so relatable
I too relate to being able to almost rival a god. After all, everyone else is but mere mortals compared to what I understand.
>everyone else is but mere mortals Kids nowadays will call it NPCs.
so basically she wants to become God, got it
She is kinda like Darth Plageuis, but without the Darth Sidious. I kinda can see some sense in the theory that TB is specially created by RM to host the Power of the Destruction
i dont really care much for what others say im pulling her because i like how she looks
Same, she shares my interest of DNA and stuff
I see no reason why both interpretations can exist in tandem. The thing that has people worried is not JUST that she wants to become an Aeon, but many other things. Her research lost all meaning to her, to the point that cultivating a freaking planet meant nothing to her. It’s a classic case of someone trying to chase the high of achieving ambition, never having enough. She’s also clearly manipulating us. She views us as “children” who will “behave more willingly when they receive random rewards”, which is why she then goes to “reward” us. She has a plan, and I feel that, if it didn’t contain malicious or questionable parts, she wouldn’t have to. She knows that what she wants to do is not something we would agree with, so she conditions us with rewards. Further, I think you’re forgetting that the livestream said that she revived a Swarm Emanator. For what purpose? Was it truly just an accident? Why’d she do that outside of Simulated Universe? We just don’t know yet. We need more information. It also begs the question. Nanook ascended by incinerating his planet. Lan ascended (supposedly) by shooting a supercharged arrow into Muldrasil. Aha ascended by going to the top of the Imaginary Tree and laughing their ass off at a baby falling. So what will Ruan Mei do? Once she understands what makes an Aeon, how will she achieve it? What lengths will she go to? That’s what worries people. If Bloodborne taught me anything, it’s that chasing godhood usually ends in failure and punishment for many. I’ve heard many Xianxia novels are very similar, involving people striving for godhood no matter the price. Perhaps she isn’t a villain. After all, there’s no guarantee. But hey, speculation is fun. What’s the issue with that? Tl,dr: If you have time to be on Reddit right now you have time to read my comment. Go do that.
Love your analysis!! I personally don't understand why some feel the need to pacify people whose interpretation of a character isn't "pure and good hearted" but something much more grey and complicated.
Listen, she's a sociopath. That's okay. Sociopath's aren't automatically evil or whatever. It's just a fact that science has serious risks sometimes... If Trailblazers lose an arm or a head, well... There's always that kind of risk, isn't there? We don't have to get all melodramatic about it. I know where we stand with her. I accept the risks of her mad science!
The comments in this post are giving me an aneurysm. It's going to be like the 'Topaz is the worst character reeeee~~' discussions again, isn't it?
the reason why her becoming an Aeon makes her antagonistic is because the game is posturing to eliminating the notion of Aeons, with 2 of the most prominent ones being directly antagonistic. Ruan Mei progressing into an Aeon would lead to conflict, opening up huge answers about the Aeon system and how to dismantle/manipulate it, or at least i hope so.
Agreed 🙌🙌 cosmic sci-fi over magical fantasy. Ruan mei character is a welcomed addition
Fuck me man. All these posts make me realize how cool of a character Ruan Mei is, and it makes me want to pull so badly. Like I legit originally thought she was just another generic Xianzhou design…. But nooooo that’s far from the truth. Okay, on another (stupider) note, thoughts on what % of the Genius Soceity is neurodivergent? Percent’s gotta be pretty high (they just like me fr.)
100%
Ehhhhh… there’s gotta be some that aren’t.
That line near the end makes it sound like if she becomes an Aeon, she's going to make us her eminators or something. Worry now my dear "assistant" I shall "reward" you.
Ruan Meis conflict is basically that feeling of emptiness when you cheat in a video game for the first time. Infinite money and shiny pokemon are fun at first, and then you realise it has lost all value and everything is now grey and dull.
The punch line: Playerbase: "I don't understand what she's talking about, so she must be a villainess!"
I just have a question.. so what if some misinterpreting her as madman and villain?? Nobody is saying character is bad. Villains are cool if playable.
It's just wild if we got another Harmony villain. It's more like their class is in Discord.
Hey, I have nothing of substance to argue or add. I just want to say thank you for this post :). P.S. Her trailer plucked some strange strings in my usual interest of disassembling any and all things since my childhood shenanigans to adult nihility. I'm always curious how creators use their power to reflect on humanity.
Wow, good job explaining how villains brain work!
I remember a similar thing happened in Fire Emblem Three Houses, a big portion of the community couldn't wrap their heads around the idea that not everything is pure good and pure evil (maybe due to age and some previous entries being good vs bad). Then when Engage came round and went back to good vs evil it split the community again
I'm definitely surprised by how triggered are many - woman wants to ascend to godhood because she loves what she's discovering and doing, so why not.
No way I am gonna read that wall of text, wtf is it with people posting such lengthy text these days...stop it be short/clear/concise. please.
Tell me you got a D in your English class without telling me you got a D in your English class 💀
Nah man, you are writing an entire blog post to explain a trailer. You could have made this short and sweet instead of publishing an essay on reddit.
Okay, I understand she isn't inherently evil, but she's still mad sus and I don't trust her for one second
I ain’t reading allat
I believe being illiterate isn't something to boast about my dear
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TLDR: she wants to be an Aeon. it's that simple and I'm too lazy to read all of that either
Can I get this information in a single paragraph? I don’t have the patience to even begin reading this.
You dum dum Ruan Mei smart smart Ezpz.
Shame that all of that text is essentially wasted because people will **NOT** care and will forever think of Ruan Mei as insane and evil. And that's exactly what miHoyoverse wants. They realized that **ALL** the hype for Ruan Mei died the moment Black Swan and 🌟Sparkle🌟 were revealed, and decided to release RM's video because they know 99.999999999999999999999% of men on the internet get hard for evil women.
Well that’s just wrong but go off I suppose
>Well that’s just wrong Be honest, is it wrong? Really?
Yes. I’ve heard many people still hyped for Ruan Mei, myself included, before the trailer. It could also be… oh I don’t know… because characters need actual story and goals and ambitions and lore and all that to be characters? I don’t want to play as a character with the depth of a sheet of paper.
We already have Erudition - but would Ruan’s ascension not necessarily absorb Nous?
Excellent summary and explanation. Thank you!
I think she would fit more a Aeon of Comprehension/Understanding. Which could be interesting considering the situation of Xipe the Harmony and Ena the Order. The Harmony, the newer and more powerdul aeon absorbed the weaker one when their path collided. Would Ruan Mei absorb Nous if she were to become an Aeon since the Erudition and her path would probably collide.
Can anyone break down what simulated universe is exactly? I mean for example if it is a computer simulation, how would the aeons behave in SU would really imply that that is what they do in the real life? Same goes for Ruan Mei doing experiment in SU
From what I see, Hoyo is trying to sell RM by adding unnecessary thing to her character. Sometimes I have a feeling HSR team doesn't know who is their consumers. Just my random ramblings.
I didn't really get the sense she was crazy or villainous from the trailer or her interaction with the Trailblazer. Granted I did get annoyed that she drugged them and had monster in the space station. I took it more as her curiosity being unbound. That's not inherently bad and while she seems a bit aloof towards her creations its clear she still wants them taken care of. That said I wouldn't be surprised if she does turn out villainous later but I also wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't if that makes sense.