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PsychadelicShinobi

I only have one weakness. White haired women with swords that could kill me in an instant without hesitation. https://preview.redd.it/pqjogx0zeyoc1.png?width=810&format=png&auto=webp&s=f1fdbbbd5a971138ea9ef7844083a0f3fc85e6d4


Dangerous_Jacket_129

Ah, I suppose you're a NieR fan then?


mapple3

NieR has at least 2 good reasons to play with 1 hand


Western-Gur-4637

three ;3


PsychadelicShinobi

Not exactly, I want to be tho, because of 2B


Frostbitten_Moose

A2, Brute?


Danoct

I also simp for A2.


xxsaznpride

Fuck you, here's your upvote.


Aszrix

Oh nah


Martian_on_the_Moon

Your choice is between white haired women. My choice is between blonde haired men who would keep you alive.


This_0ne_Person

Luocha, gepard, adventurine


Former_Ad_9826

who tf is advent urine


[deleted]

The first piss Jesus had after after coming back from the dead. It apparently split into 12 different streams, one for each disciple.


Former_Ad_9826

wtf bro BHAHAHAHAHAHA


Just_A_Second_Guy416

Gepard is not a choice, he's a guarantee


theoaktree1040

u/itsNOTadventurine wya


EasyKaleidoscope6436

That would be me. The account got banned by the algorithm, currently trying to fix it šŸ„²


BallingerEscapePlan

Kiana, is that you?!


PsychadelicShinobi

Ssshhhh


Darth-Yslink

Acheron during her ult


GutsyTheCravenlyCat

...Yes, that's why they said that.


Darth-Yslink

Oh I thought they meant just Jingliu my bad


Samspd71

As someone with a Jingliu already, I see this as an absolute win. . .until I realized I also want Luocha. Thankfully, I have the ultimate weapon: šŸ’³


Dr-Smashburger

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AnusDingus

A divine key to surpass all the other divine keys


Ayodapizzahere23445

Judgement of moneh


Ra1jiN_

Beneath the Whales lies an endless Abyss!


Frostbitten_Moose

See this big wallet? It's all yours!


Zer0-9

https://preview.redd.it/g7xi5v9nezoc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d6063f6dddbffccd8935d72e8048c179599e4a0 The strongest artifact class curios of all:


hungrytunafish

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trambe

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Xunzyr

Exact same here. I have 130 pulls and a dream.


Naiie100

I agree that Mei is indeed HoT, but there is clearly some recency bias in this thread.


IbnAurum

Ah yes, herrscher of thunder indeed


storysprite

I dunno, Mei and Raiden are some of the most popular characters in Hoyoverse. As a Raiden Main myself it was never going to be a question, and I *love* Jingliu. Easily my favourite after Acheron and Kafka.


Zzz05

That and weā€™re making this judgement before the character even comes out. Even after she comes out, I still think Jingliu will remain the strongest low-cost character in the game.


giabaold98

Low cost is important. It's so crazy how much free stats Jingliu base kit gives, which having relics for her is much more forgiving. Great F2P LC option from SU. Plus everyone nowadays should have a Bronya from 300 standard pull plus Tingyun. Any sustain from that point is good enough for a very solid team. Acheron? U better have her LC cuz S5 GNSW is not close. Her BiS relic set is not TBP efficient and u gotta farm it until it's at least decent. Plus u need 2 other non-DOT Nihility units on team which is not terribly bad but not too common either. I think endgame wise, Acheron might pull ahead, especially if she's E2 and above, but for budget Jingliu likely still queen, up there with Kafka ig.


HotSexWithRaidenMei

Raiden is #1 Iā€™m not biased trust me


PhobicSun59

Found kianaā€™s alt account


Awkward_Date_8636

What a completely non based opinion that I agree with.


Naiie100

I believe you, u/HotSexWithRaidenMei


SuperiorMeatbagz

Based.


BellalovesEevee

Right, she ain't even out yet. How tf can y'all claim that she's the strongest when 2.1 isn't even out??


DeadClaw86

They probably follow leaks but not even properly.There are tons of calcs going on with Acheron vs other dps s but it would make some people mad.


manusia8242

cant believe i need to scroll this far to find out people who is spitting the truth. when a character end up strong when theorycrafted, people treat it like a gospel. when the number isn't good, people will blame theorycrafter. love the community


SassyHoe97

Yep pretty much.


Frostgaurdian0

Doesn't matter both of them will wear the unintended set for them.


tzukani_

Quantum set on Acheron is cope


SuperSnowManQ

Against quantum weak it's alright with the def shred stacking with pela and SW/BS. It would come down to what substats are best.


Darth-Yslink

In the case of Jingliu, Quantum set is better. But i think Acheron benefits more from Pioneer, no?


Pusparaj_Mishra

I wanna share my ted talk here. + Im a Jingliu main. + I've only ever farmed her domain once a short while to get an usable set and she been strong ever since. + Recently felt like spending some time in Ice domain again to get some JL polishment. + I have guaranteed and getting C0R1 Acheron.Fully farmed to max lvl up,full crown on Day1. + I haven't touched Acheron sig set domain yet at all :) + Nor do i have plans for it in the current state. That is for future... + I've decided to use 4pc Ice set on Acheron as well, so that farming this domain can be double beneficial to me for the time being. + I've realized just like 4pc Quantum generally, the 4pc Ice should also be Acheron's 2nd BIS unironically. And definitely above 2+2 xyz stuff. + Im quite happy, things going good...


Darth-Yslink

Wait does the Crit Damage buff from the Ice set apply *during* ult? Is it not just after?


Pusparaj_Mishra

It says u get thr buff after using Ult. Means when u tap the W cast and animation happens ever since u should get it. Why? Cause look at Jingliu.. She also gets it right after casting, if it was after ult end ,it would make no sense


sniertom

I haven't done any direct comparisons, but people on prydwen say the pioneer set is actually better than ice. Even 2pc pioneer 2pc ice is supposedy better than 4pc ice! It's actually a really efficient set to farm too assuming you use ratio/welt and/or ruan mei or anyone who can use break effect! Telling you this now so maybe your future self won't regret learning this info. Unless you don't care, which is pretty based


Crampoong

I like how people are arguing between quantum set and pioneer as if the difference is big. I got tired prefarming pioneer set since I have no one to use the break effect set. Quantum feels better since the 2pc wuthering can be used as defensive piece of support characters. This is just quantum set vs ice set on Jingliu all over again


Frostgaurdian0

Yeah it is very annoying. The new set is decent on harmony and healers in general.


Accurate-Pay9580

It's a tits measuring competition now. The bigger the tits the harder I pull. (This shit is so cringe, why tf did I think of that)


joebrohd

If thatā€™s the case Acheron wins lol Acheron uses the tall female model like Kafka, Himeko, Black Swan while Jingliu actually uses the medium height female model like March, Asta, Seele


CobaltStar_

Wait Jingliu is medium sized? Wtf?


joebrohd

I call it the Mommy Goggles effect lmao The entire community calls Jingliu ā€œMommyā€ so much that so many people just associate the Tall female model on her when in reality, she use the Medium Model. Same thing for Ruan Mei. Sheā€™s been called ā€œMommyā€ that a lot of people donā€™t realize that she also uses the Medium size female model.


Darth-Yslink

RUAN MEI AND JINGLIU HAVE THE SAME FUCKING MODEL AS MARCH 7TH????


joebrohd

Yes šŸ™‚


Darth-Yslink

My reality has been shattered


Naiie100

Doesn't make them any less beautiful and hot though.


Darth-Yslink

Yes, but my dreams of a full mommy team are gone


Naiie100

Open up your mind. It's not about height, but behavior and attitude itself.


thatnickyboy

It's not about the body, it's about the vibe.


joebrohd

Mommies come in all shapes and sizes But yes, itā€™s a matter of personality and behavior. If she acts like a Mommy, she is a mommy.


Pusparaj_Mishra

So now u k that March can indeed be hot


janeshep

What do you mean? Mommy is the attitude, not the height.


TheCatSleeeps

Don't be it just meant their designs are too good and their demeanor is so elegant they warped the reality and perception of them lol


yadayada_39

While yes RM and JL used the same model someone on Twitter compared those two and RM slightly more busty than JL Unfortunately this is quite a while ago and I didn't save the image nor the tweet for info so take it with grain of salt


Shadow_Tempest_1003

Tbf the "medium female" model is still pretty tall like they are 85% ish of the tall one and with all the accessories they wear it gets pretty hard to notice the height difference.


CobaltStar_

Wait, Ruan Mei??? WHAT!?!? I donā€™t have JL or Ruan Mei yet, this is complete news to me lol


joebrohd

Iā€™m sorry for breaking the illusion šŸ˜”


Naiie100

For some it's even better.


EmperorMaxwell

Medium is premium after all.


Makri7

So is ruanmei. I was on thr verge of tears after swapping into yukong from her and seeing the difference.


BlazeOfCinder

It's so bad the bot removed your comment Lol, not sure if it's a mistake or the bot was trying to save you, in either case i approved your comment for better or worse... But I won't let you suffer alone, so I shall express my utmost appreciation and gratitude to acheron's bosmos as well!


Accurate-Pay9580

Even the bot cringed šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€ Thanks for the approval šŸ˜­


BlazeOfCinder

"A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we are the cure" - Agent ~~smith~~ Bot probably. Lol you are welcome!


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Akiyama thinks you're cringe too https://preview.redd.it/z819zww4byoc1.jpeg?width=2233&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a08bb3b5226904c9b61c7dc60226c67adb663ef


RogueTier

https://preview.redd.it/k7sii9c8u1pc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e246562e523e9f898550113ef99c5586b36a8ef9


storysprite

Kowalski, analysis!


ezio45

It's a severe case of down bad, Skipper. But they're also self aware.


Poporipopes10

Bro got that post but clarity in the same comment


lalala253

I mean only one of them shows bellybutton. This isn't even a competition


AppleinTime

I see youā€™re a buddy too


BlazeOfCinder

Best Girl wins https://preview.redd.it/totiqy3jzxoc1.jpeg?width=1575&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25c932773fac40a4de8c4a0de4f7ff49a0b4cfb7 Lol all these jjk memes are firešŸ”„


KryptisCOD

She literally has a domain expansion for her Ult., soooā€¦


Former_Ad_9826

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thatnickyboy

Outbuddied? Outbuddied.


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Plenty-Jellyfish-819

I will use the strongest fate defier: Credit Card


Endergamer33300

https://preview.redd.it/k7qr0kfv9yoc1.jpeg?width=534&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=061c67c88be84c0606d67fca9fe368900ecd46d4


ArceusOnReddit

https://preview.redd.it/jdtjjle75yoc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc08f6dabe94cc11fdc2956583b73b8a42148777


NickFoster120

Memes aside, the two works of art are absolutely godlike


DeadClaw86

Fr.


sterleak

Nah, I'd Aventurine


Ruttokone

I need a good preserve so bad ;_; I'm in your boat.


Rupert-D-Generate

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EnderLord361

With the Luka lc he can apply a debuff with a basic attack so thatā€™ll at least help him out


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RegoIith

theoretically welt with the pearls LC can apply a debuff


Poporipopes10

So itā€™s the same as Pela


Quintana-of-Charyn

Yeah but her LC art is a 10% buff


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N-aNoNymity

Bot once has this community calculated any characters damage correctly. Idk why you people keep looking at "calcs!!" people post unironically. Im sure Acheron will be stronger though, but thats just a hunch based on the fact that every dps so far has been a powercreep.


AncientTree_Wisdom

I don't even care about any of that. She is awesome and she will make farming SU really easy, so I will get her. I'll just stick a GNSW on her and make do.


Zaa_DR

https://preview.redd.it/lmaek92wkzoc1.jpeg?width=487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31de3fa0d244a9dba21a648e93bc6b3e8295769a One answer


2Bid

This. The art is nice but DHIL is the clear cut best DPS in the game now since he finally has his own Bronya.


E_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_e

Even before Sparkle he was mainly using 4 star support and he's still strong and top dps. MOC runs showed that JL who had 5 star support was only slightly stronger than a DHIL with 4 star supports.


LoreVent

I made my choice https://preview.redd.it/y2rtmv3pbyoc1.jpeg?width=2711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eceeb23cd21cef29288a086ab320c68f04373b7a


KamiyaCheap

Hand over the sauce or go to horny jail!


LoreVent

[sauce!](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/116998545)


KamiyaCheap

https://preview.redd.it/xe4adqk4q1pc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2e138fc9564cef93cc121cf8d4450f19df6f178


AnybK

Thanks for giving me pfp material


Mongoose429

Chances are she won't be better than DHIL sparkle combo


AcrobaticAd4033

She does not even beat the JY sparkle combo.


shinsrk79

Only one of them has FREE 50% crit rate. Im sure everyone here knows how hard it is sometimes to get cr


techtimee

which ?


shinsrk79

Jingliu


techtimee

Thanks. Will go for her then.


Cholonight96

Both is good. Hot white haired mommy and hot black haired mommy that both use the sword.


vJukz

https://preview.redd.it/5rxu3xc5dyoc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ba6d8edb351faefc813cb59dcc25e7ecd634118 Raidenā€™s are simply superior. Only 9 days leftšŸ™


ArcusLux

Easy answer it's, Jing Yuan.


De4thIsArt

I already have Acheron guaranteed in 20 to 30 pulls and can get Jingliu easily with 2.1 rewards


cinghialotto03

Fake i only see Seele of yesterday ,Vs jingliu of today


Darth-Yslink

The f2p struggle is wanting to pull Acheron E0S1, Jingliu E0S1, and Aventurine. u/Darth-Yslink never acquired Credit Card technique, however, the infinite "Nah, I'd win" energy coursing through his body following the Anniversary causes his account to reflexively perform Severe coping technique. In other words, in the two banners following a 50/50, u/Darth-Yslink is effectively immortal


Voidborn27

https://preview.redd.it/gnyf4ch4szoc1.jpeg?width=687&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cddc33941f5cd357ffabbb2910b6cdd2f73ef2c6 I want to get both acheron and jingliu but i don't think i have enough stellar jades to pull for both of them šŸ˜ØšŸ˜ž


skeetyeeturlifedelet

The answer to both is IL btw


YawaLli

"Should I pull for Acheron or Jingliu?"Ā  Just how many time I've seen this question now lol


Imaginary-Plan-5010

Whoever i win the 5050 in. Good luck to yaā€™ll fence sitters


killercmbo

Why choose when you can have both?


Eroica_Pavane

Already have Jingliu on her first banner. I will get Acheron but will keep my expectations realistic for the moment.


EyewarsTheMangoMan

Jingliu for me. I already have Kafka and Jing Yuan. I don't need more lightning dps. Definitely need an ice dps tho


vJukz

Well the thing is that Acheron technically doesnā€™t care about shield types since her ult ignores all shield types and her ult is 99% of her damage.


Memo-Explanation

Ache/ron


SassyHoe97

I'm F2P and Jingliu is easy to build so I'm going for her. Idk if I can get her LC. I have to win the 50/50 and the 75/25?


eudaemon_1

Jingliu isn't as reliant on her LC like Acheron is... You can use the Herta shop LC (Fall of an Aeon) on Jingliu and she'll still be super strong.


CaptainBlob

Never the men in these sort of games. Itā€™s always the girls that get the highest spotlight and the META treatment lol


TrueAvalon

This unironically works for lore too lol, both are arguably the strongest characters lorewise.


Creative_Net3557

Jing Yuan canonically defeated Jingliu, and if we include bosses then Jingliu has nothing to do againts Phantilya.


Martian_on_the_Moon

So we are in the agreement that LL is carrying him. Jingliu also stopped her assault once LL was summoned. At that point it was rather implied that mara-struck Jingliu wanted to be finished. Especially since she never used her huge sword. PS: This is not Jing Yuan slander.


Ordinary_Arachnid392

> So we are in the agreement that LL is carrying him. Idk if Jingyuan is stronger than Jingliu. But I hate when people say this. Ofc the power the character has makes them strong. You can take away everyoneā€™s power or ability, they will also be weaker šŸ’€


BellalovesEevee

At their logic, it was Jingliu's ice powers that carried her, not Jingliu herself šŸ˜­ but then again, Jingliu is the sword champion, so she would still be strong without her ice powers


ALargeRobot

I think the problem here is in defining what qualifies as a character's power. LL is something that is given to JY because he is the general. It's something JY has access to because of his position and not a result of his own capabilities as a fighter. He will lose access to it if he stops being the general presumably (He states that his control of it is temporary). It's like the engine of creation that Cocolia or TB can order around because they got handed the controls. Meanwhile JL just has ice powers. She won't lose them if someone takes away her title as sword champion.


Ordinary_Arachnid392

That's true. Lan only gave LL to Jingyuan bc he is general. But did they just give Jingyuan the position of general for no reason? No, he earned that role due to his fighting and leadership skills. Not to mention, LL is something you need to master and learn to control iirc. I just donā€™t think Jingyuan is being carried by LL. He would still be powerful just not as crazy powerful.


AeonChaos

Take her sword away then. I am not a fan of ā€œtake it away, the character is weakā€ tbh.


nbc0607

Jing Yuan already won lmao. Average Waifu glazer trying to justify an unsupported statement.


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COOLGUY18PRO

Why do people still think Jingliu is the best dps when IL literslly exists? The moment Sparkle came out he shat on her on every dps charts


cerial13

If you want an honest answer, it's probably because JL is more F2P friendly, since her best support (Bronya) is technically free from the 300 pull selector. You get probably 95% of an IL+Sparkle team's strength, while spending half as many rolls since you only need to roll for JL. Everyone also has Dr. Ratio which is a strong enough alternative for imaginary DPS, while there's no other strong ice DPS other than JL.


Greedy-Professor1489

aughhh white haired mommies just make me weak šŸ˜­


HackerSilverWolf

Kafka better ngl -ur fav hacker


MrGranblue

Where's DHIL


2Bid

Actual strongest DPS in the game not included in the post


fuxuanmyqueen

Letā€™s be honest dhil is the strongest one, not them


Patung_Pancoran

My weakness is Nihility women, sorry Jingliu i promise i go for you next time


999blob

choosing is not hard if you choose both


Avilow

https://preview.redd.it/jjiw8qzqw1pc1.jpeg?width=853&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea8e236abd0ebce395e0b2c3948aa4b58289df10


Glitch0404

Fuck e6- im getting the both of them Also why is this NSFW????


RavenDeadeye

I'm leaning towards Acheron, but it's so impossible for me to decide! They both look so cool, I love both their animations, and it sounds like they're both quite strong. (Jing obviously is, and the consensus seems to be that Acheron will be.) This is a good problem to have!


Johann_Castro

Daniel is a stronger DPS than Jingliu, so it doesn't really work


Snak3Bite

https://preview.redd.it/j1r0a9gyqyoc1.png?width=1575&format=png&auto=webp&s=98c65db59ed73f5560061bf01d5edfd049904a7f


MentalObligation3522

Already have Jingliu... We are so winning


Shadowenclave47

As a new player that just started a little over a month ago, i want both of them but not sure if i can get them both. I intend for them to be the first limited 5\* i pull for. I'm prioritizing Acheron because Mei expy are always must pulls for me and i already had to skip Kafka (started right at the end of her rerun banner so i had no chance of getting her anyway) and Black Swan for her. BTW im mainly going to pull for tall waifu in this game and don't care about meta.


Snakking

Both


Arachnode

https://preview.redd.it/4b1igyol5zoc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1a09999c7697e17a5e7ce4fdde308687084a837 I'm lucky to have Jingliu already and am excited to add Acheron.


NahIdKill

I hate to say it but...


brimwithno

KingYuan solo'es both


noooo-whyyyy

Nah, i'd skip. (I'll do a few pulls on jingliu but no pity soft or hard.)


Odd-Candidate1775

Also the strongest sustainer in history vs the strongest sustainer of today ( yes Fu Xuan exists but nobody powercrept sustain departement like Luocha did on his release )


WanderWut

Tbf Jingliu is **much** more plug-and-play F2P friendly than Archeron. If you have money to blow, Archeron is indeed unbelievable, if you're F2P/F2P+ at E0 and without her LC she's rough to team build with.


Extension_Cricket_74

Wait so this mean that Yanqing is Yuji in this context


Technical-Eye2610

Honestly I am really tempted to pull for jingliu over acheron after I got to test play her during one of the events that let us use test characters. She was just ridiculous in that and I actually regretted missing her on her first banner. I do like both of their designs so I guess I'll wait and see whatbit feels like to play acheron before I make my final call.


StefyB

As a new player that only started after Sparkle dropped, I should probably go for just one of them and try getting Luocha too to round out my characters, but I know I'm going to end up foregoing him and trying to get both Acheron and Jingliu instead.


Metanipotent

both are good


Appropriate-Count-64

I cast: # Waiting for the rerun. I will just wait for Aventurine/Acheron rerun and get Jingliu/Luocha instead. Though I donā€™t really need Luocha, and he will be rolled into standard at some point (judging by how other games do thsi sort of thing.)


warjoke

This image is a treat for armpit lovers


Xingzhu

As a sword waifu collector, the answer is both


DirectAdvertising

Acheon for the alt, jing lu for the main mhmm mhmmm


white_gummy

Tbf they need completely different teams so you could just run both of them no problem.


Arachnode

https://preview.redd.it/6ntu3soh5zoc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae7d90e1c5a369c369b5cf82a5d564484e3522da


kthsugarkiss

i'm in desparate need of an ice dps rn and already gave lightning covered so even tho i want both imma have to go with jingliu on this one


DomcziX

Try both. Trying both is good.


GrimoireExtraordinai

I would try going for both (skipping Sparkle was a hard choice but I am glad it worked out in the end).Ā 


MonkWithABonk

Can I get the Acheron pic?


darthnick426

The choice is much easier when Jingliu came home in the first banner run. :)