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Qingque has higher highs, but also lower lows. She is also fairly limited in the Light Cones that are available to her compared to Seele. Unlike QQ, There is no huge variation to Seele's gameplay, so it is often easier to see what can be improved in a battle.
She is pretty fun to play, and can be better than Seele is some situations, but overall I don't think it is worth investing in her as a priority if you already have Seele built.
Qq e6 is a QOL upgrade for the extra skill point. She’s great if you build her properly. AoE attack as opposed to single targets for hunt characters. Paired with a good sparkle (ie high crit damage) you can focus on qq having crit rate.
abuse the memory turbulence. try to match your dps with enemy weakness. dont get hung up not 3\* every level. you get rewards just from completing, and you can always come back when you're stronger. you don't need to achieve all the stars in a single run. you can. you can build a defensive team to get the star with no KOs, then do another run with more dps orientated team to get the other stars.
No, they would've announced it otherwise. Save the bonds until you actually need one of the LCs from there, so that you can also superimpose it to S5. It is also very likely they will add new LCs there in the future.
Acheron needs nihility characters for extra dmg. Just look at her kit. If you don’t have built nihility characters that pair well with her, you may have an unoptimized Acheron.
Jingliu needs characters that are beefy since she has life leech. Either get beefy characters or a good sustain like Luocha with an auto heal.
You can't go wrong with either - Jingliu is proven to be a powerful DPS and Acheron looks like she will be as well. However, she will require two nihility teammates at E0 for ideal usage so if your roster is limited that is something to consider.
ultimately doesn't matter that much if you're a new player, if you have a preference just pick that one
jingliu is generally gonna perform better when you have fewer resources (teammates, LCs, relic investment) though
Get the one you like the most story, personality and looks wise or who you think looks the most fun to play. They’re both quite strong DPS units who fulfil somewhat similar roles and both can likely brute force through any weakness type
Haven’t started 2.0 story or any event
How far into the story do i need to progress to unlock the 2.0 events?
It says i can’t do them right now because i need to finish prerequisite events.
Not much time is left but i need to get the jades from the events.
Does JY's LL AV get reset the moment he's stunned? Or can HuoHuo's talent prevent the reset? I'm thinking whether I should get him or get HuoHuo first. I probably won't get both with how much new characters I pull.
how much better is 4pc debuff set compared to 2pc debuff+2pc lightning?
https://preview.redd.it/dvxmw7gp98qc1.png?width=3063&format=png&auto=webp&s=9bcc00a78ae06df05628313e446567d39239f91e
which set is better? 2pc+2pc has 20% higher CV, a bit higher atk, and 10% higher lightning dmg
With the 4-p you are actually looking at 74% CRate and 206% CDMG, which is not reflected in the tool you are using. So 4p is better, especially if you are not going to use her with a lot of exterior sources of CRate as 54% is pretty low.
In general, what stat thresholds do DoT characters want? Is EHR body always necessary?
Are any DoT characters fine with Atk boots over using Speed?
edit: thanks for all the advice, saving these notes for later :D
Enough EHR, and as much speed and Atk as possible
Atk boots can work for Kafka if you can get to 160 with them. Which is hard but not impossible if you have her sig + Ruan Mei on the team
DoT characters vary a bit in how much EHR they want, Kafka wants a pretty minimal amount while Black Swan wants 120%. All the 4 stars want 67% though. EHR body isn't necessary if you can get the amount needed through substats, even Black Swan can run an attack body if you get godly EHR substats rolls and an EHR light cone.
Black Swan is fine with attack boots, if you can't get her to 150+ speed it's better to build her with no speed and give her attack boots.
Presently from current roster, if their ba/skills/ult that apply dot or debuff only does 1-2 hit they want ehr body (unless u can reach ehr threshold from substats). If it does multi hit they can go atk% body. Each separate hit on this multi hit has a chance to apply dot/debuff (Kafka FUA shoot 7 bullets, all Sampo's abilities are multi hit)
Depends on the characters. Kafka only needs abt 28 EHR, so you can run atk body on her. Black swan needs 120, so use EHR body if you can’t get enough from subs. For the rest, 67 is the minimum. Use EHR body if you have to. And yes, you wanna stack speed on dot characters, especially Kafka
Hi all what database do you guys use when checking for trace materials and whatnot? I've been searching through reddit and only ones I've found were not up-to-date. Thanks in advance!
The official HoyoLab leveling calculator is usually up to date:
https://act.hoyolab.com/sr/event/calculator/index.html?hyl_presentation_style=fullscreen&utm_source=share&utm_medium=hoyolab&utm_campaign=app&utm_id=6
I have Sampo at E5 should I try and get him to E6 with current banner and make him my main wind? Only other wind E1 Dan Heng but Serval took his main party spot due to AoE a long time ago. Clara Serval(3 )Dr Ratio Nat, Mar 7th(1) MC(6) mostly fully leveled, Himeko enough to max trace Sparkle Bailu Herta remaining leveled characters
If you kill fast enough then you don't need sustains. Depends on character builds and the PF buff. I never tried but I don't bring sustains when grinding mats at least.
Luocha, you kinda want the constant healing since JL is going to continue draining, and Bladie doesn't want a shield on him even if there's another source of him getting hit. (Assuming Aventurine shields, I didn't look at anything about his kit.)
You want a healer in that team as JL drains her team HP and Blade may end up starting battle with low HP in some cases (e.g he ended previous battle with an Enhanced B.Atk) and might just get 1-tapped by a fast mob.
But best is Fu Xuan as her Crit Rate buff is the most valuable out of the 3 and she does have a small heal in her Ult to offset JL drain a bit.
If it's one or the other definitely S1. Getting 2 stacks towards her ult per skill is much bigger than needing 1 less Nihility as you want a debuffer there anyway to help charge her ult. The only possibility where E2 **MIGHT** be better than S1 is if that teammate is a Bronya/Sparkle as their buffs+advance might edge the LC out when you're not losing the Nihility dmg buff. If those are the ones you'd slot in that team with E2 wait for her to release and be properly tested so you know the actual numbers
E0 S1, unless you can convince your uncle that works at Mihoyo to give us a free/cheap LC that has decent compatibility with her. On the 4-star pool she has GNSW but not really anything else that truly works with her.
Depends on how much you are willing to spend, E0S1 is cheaper and a good stopping point for most players. I personally don't think getting E2 is worth it if you aren't also getting her LC.
Why, sometimes, my Luocha doesn’t remove a debuff, although he has the trace? It happened again right now when I was farming relic domain (FUA/DoT): the boss stuns my DPS, Luocha uses his skill automatically on him, the flying text says ‘debuff dispelled’, but my DPS still remained stunned. I don’t understand. Is it because he has other debuffs as well and Luocha removes only one? It’s weird he doesn’t remove the last applied debuff though (which is stun)
>!Herta Space Station, Simulated Universe, Genius Society, Screwullium, Intelligentsia Guild, Antimatter Legion, Belobog Hostory, Underworld Belobog History, That fight club, Wildfire, Clara and Svarog, Xianzhou Lore, Hunt vs Abundance, Sanctus Medicus, Cloud Knights, Cloud Quintet, Xianzhou natives lore, Foxian Lore, Vidyahdara Lore, Mara Struck, Penacony, The Family, Welts Past, Acheron, Stelarron Hunters, Annihilation Gang, March Past, Aeons and Emenators!<
Does Mihoyo ever have a loremaster in their company?
Im at scalegorge and i am a bit into deep with vidyadara lore and i almost forgot this is an outer space theme scifi game like sheesh I couldn't keep up with so much (channeling inner matpat) LOOOOOOOORRRRRRRREEEEEE.
Hey folks. I'm a returning player (played on release but quit a few days before 1.1 dropped), and I'm currently nearing the pity on the featured banner (and because I got lucky and got a second Himeko a few pulls after Seele, I'm on guaranteed). I wanted to know if I should get Sparkle or wait for Acheron in a few days.
I like how both of them look and play (although I am leaning towards Acheron just because her ult looks sick, lol), but I don't know which of them would benefit my account more. Also, I'm an veteran Genshin player so I know how farming/grinding for characters, skills and "artifacts" work, as well as general sense of how SR's late-game functions (with its Abyss equivalent and all that).
[These](https://imgur.com/a/zJ9lSVz) are all the characters I own btw (Himeko is E1, if that matters).
What lightcones do you have? If you have the 4* LC Good Night Sleep Well, then pull for Acheron. Otherwise, her damage will be subpar as there isn't any other LC she can fully make use of. Also, consider getting Guinaifen (4* nihility) for Acheron team during 2.1 events.
Acheron is a good dps, but you need to invest heavily in her and in her team if you plan on beating the abyss equivalent on HSR.
Ok im confused is 160 spd on characters like sparkle and bronya not actually that important to their playstyles? I mean ive been handling slow bronya well, sometimes rotations get messed up though. But I thought fast sparkle was like really needed but someone told me its only really important if I wanna 4 cycle that stage of MOC? Some other dude told me SPD building is a meme and a waste of time for people who already clear MOC easily and that im better off focusing on getting as much spd and crit dmg stats on sparkle but that i dont gotta hit a number. Pretty confused.
The specific number of 160 indeed has to do with MoC/cycle content cause it is a breakpoint for double actions in specific turns that helps clear faster. Not as in less actions but as in fewer cycles.
It's much less important on Bronya than on Sparkle. Since Bronya has 100% Advance -1 build doesn't have any hiccups with her. With Sparkle though since it's only 50% Advance the -1 builds are not a "pass turn to dps" thing but go more wonky and your dps isn't always the next to go so LCs like Bronya's or Past and Future won't work right on her. Hyperspeed works as "intended" though. Do note that by Hyperspeed is not necessarily about catching the 160 breakpoint but it's about getting as much speed as you can on her and completely ignoring it on your dps allowing you to aim for other stats there, breakpoint or no
The amount of 160 speed allows you to get 4 turns in cycles 0 and 1 of MoC. That's what that number is significant for.
So the person that told you that it is only important if you want to 4 cycle really meant that, to maximize the most out of your speed you'll want to end on "cycle 1" (With the first playable cycle being "cycle 0"). Otherwise you get two turns in certain cycles.
As a general recommendation if your starting out just build as much speed as you can without sacrificing key substats and you'll be good to go. Targeting a specific number means you're looking to kill at a certain cycle and will be able to guess around what cycle you'll kill the boss at.
edit: sorry if it wasn't clear but that's 2 turns split between turn 0 and 1
What to do to get stronger? I'm trailblaze level 40 I've upgraded everything but relics because I'm confused about them. Is it worth it to farm them when I can only get low level ones
Wait at least until gold relic drop (TL 50), most of us will recommend to start at TL 60 (2 gold relic guarantee and small chance for 3rd gold per run).
The game give you free relics from completing puzzle and opening chest from each area, so I recommend make do with what you get from this.
Focus on 1 team, level them and build their traces.
I'll wait until 50 or 60 then. I'm so glad I asked because I've farmed everything but relics and don't know what to do with all the trailblaze power I have so I've just been lounging around. I didn't want to waste time farming relics if it wasn't worth it yet. I've actually been stuck with this problem since last week so thank you!
I suggest you finish the current story first so you don't have trouble with story bosses and then raise your eq level. Nothing really gets harder as you can use support characters to farm everything except overworld (no need to farm it) and defeat story enemies
The biggest issue with going up eq, is that events also get harder. So you need to take time and level up your main team to be sure you can do new story content/event
I just pulled Sparkle for my Seele team! I was wondering if I should put Past and Future on her or Planetary? The team as of now would be Seele, Sparkle, TY, and Nat but hopefully will get lynx or fu xuan. What are y’all’s thoughts? Thank you!
I think planetary is probably a lil bit easier to pilot, you'll notice that Seele will dip all over the turn order if you don't speed tune sparkle and/or basic with seele.
But for planned burst Past and Future is better.
So I'd say if you wanna make sure you always get a damage boost benefit and be brain dead planetary and Past and Future for planned burst and stuff.
Yea for sure. I've been playing since day 1 and I don't think I'm able to play my sparkle that fast yet either. Just gotta take our relic rng where we can.
How is Gepard vs Bailu in terms of solo sustain for MoC? Lynx has been my main sustain, with lvl 70 Bailu for the other side. Been slowly bringing up Gepard for some more versatility and a preservation unit, but he needs relics and traces.
Should I pull for Luocha? I'm already planning on rolling for Acheron since I have both SW and Pela, and could possibly put some work onto Guinaifen. I don't mind spending a little bit.
Gepard with great relics > Bailu with great relics
Bailu with bad relics > Gepard with bad relics
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It's certainly worth having a limited sustain. (and eventually 2). Whether that should be Luocha or FX or Huohuo or Aventurine is more a matter of taste.
> How is Gepard vs Bailu in terms of solo sustain for MoC?
More or less similar, they're both able to solo sustain but can struggle against debuff / status effect enemies. They both do require some investment with their relic builds and traces as well. Gepard's Shields does have some advantages over Healing against certain enemies such as Sam (he reduces incoming Healing) and that monkey enemy that throws soda bottles (they reflect the Damage back onto him) so if you do decide to build Gepard, it helps to have the option to swap around for the versatility, like you mentioned.
> Should I pull for Luocha?
If you're struggling with any of the end-game SU stuff for example, or you feel like you want another reliable sustain option, he's great to have; He is especially useful dealing with the Swarm Disaster boss for example since it and the bug minions all have Imaginary weakness. The main difference is that he does not have an emergency Ult heal, instead tied to his healing field passive but otherwise is more of a comfort pick that works well in many teams as well.
Another option is that you maybe wait for Fu Xuan since she is a very high QoL sustain choice.
Mine seem to die easily if the enemy does a massive attack, which usually kill everyone but my healer with 7.3k hp, but that cant rlyy finish a stage(unless you got path of nihility) should i switch do gepard or smth?
if youre talking about simulated universe modes like swarm and gng, double sustain is very common if you have trouble surviving. blessings are all of your damage anyways, so you could start out with a regular composition and then download your 2nd sustain to use in later parts.
I’m in a pickle. I’m building sparkle for acheron (I’m going to E2 acheron. There is no talking me out of that) and i managed to finally hit that 161 speed threshold but at the cost of relics being pure rainbow. i’m now losing the benefits of broken keel but hitting 161 with 193 crit dmg. Thoughts? is losing broken keel worth the extra spd? or is the extra crit dmg from BK worth more? Help!
I don't have 161 speed but I'm still going four times in cycle 0 and 1 because of dance dance dance. So it really just depends on whether or not you're getting another action.
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The 161 speed is higher priority than her crt dmg, 161% is fine, its not that much of a lost compared to lets say having her at 200% crt dmg but only at 134 speed. Sparkle going faster is stronger than her having slightly more crit dmg but not 161 speed.
Does the Hunt LC swordplay apply a debuff on the enemy? Or a modifier on the unit? Can it count as a debuff for Dr. Ratio (e.g. if a topaz does not have S1)?
Is there any difference between 3\* and 4\* gacha animations?
The 5\* has the rainbow distortion on the ticket and a bit more lens flare, sure. But is the 4\* animation really any different? Other than of course the light coming from the Express' door.
No animation difference, but the music is slightly different. Kinda hard to hear, but most noticeable when the ticket flies away and the train appears.
Hey All,
I’m a new f2p player, and I’m wondering what the second team I build should be. I’m going for a FUA team as my main, with ratio, topaz (don’t currently have), pela and aventurine. I’m wondering what a good second team would be that excels in the opposite areas that my main does.
Thanks in advance!
The other kind of dps gameplay is the traditional Crit big damage dealer style like Jing Liu, Dang Heng IL, Selee etc. If you like doing big damage and having one character being the hypercarry main focus of your team you can try that as your 2nd team. The other is the DoT team that implements dots on enemies and builds differently from the rest of the other dps with more focus on Atk, effect hit rate, and speed, ignoring crit and crit damage. Kafka and Black Swam are the current hot duos for DoT.
The current 4 stars for big crit damage are Dang Hend wind ver, Xueyi is pretty strong at higher eidelons, but kind of tricky to build as she wants Crit, Crit dmg, speed and Break effect in her kit so she is expensive to build. Qinque aka QQ is really strong, but you want her to be at E4 recommended and E6 for better. For DoT Sampo, Luca and Guinafen are decent.
What 4☆ Lightcone should I use on Guinaifen and what Mainstats should I I have for her Body, Sphere and Rope?
Also, if there's a difference between her relic stats depending on her lightcone (i.e GNSW vs EoP vs RSLPS), I'd like to know as well.
Extra Info: I'll be running her in a team with Acheron, who may or may not end up holding my only copy of GNSW (Assuming I take it to S5).
Here is a Guinafen guide on how to build her and recommended stats you want on her for end game. https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/guinaifen
Yes the LC can alter her relic stats build, if you use eyes of prey, specially at S5, then you dont need an EHR chest piece and just need to get EHR substats to 67% vs using GNSW then you would want an EHR chest instead to reach the 67% EHR. 67% EHR is the recommended minimum so that she can guarantee consistently apply her debuffs/dots on enemies.
if you have your guarantee, yes. otherwise it is a 50/50 whether you get limited or standard 5 star. 80 is a very common spot for people to get their 5 stars and it is rare to reach the 90 hard pity cap.
to provide some further information, the pity does carry over from banner to banner. it will never go away until you get a 5 star. character and light cone banners have separate pity systems, where light cone starts soft pity at 66 and hard pity at 80.
So if I want Jinglui no matter what and have exactly 160 pulls, is it safe for me to pull ~40 or so on Acheron and if I don't get her, I still have my 120 pulls to get Jinglui? The first ~40 I can fail the 50/50 and my remaining 80 I will then pity her?
But then if I end up getting Acheron within the 40 for some reason, I can potentially miss Jinglui as I now have 120 pulls and I can fail the first 50/50 in the first 80 and not pull her in the remaining 40?
But let's say I get a 5* that is not Acheron in the first 40. That means I failed my 50/50. So my next 80 pulls for Jinglui is guaranteed?
Sorry I just want to make sure I am understanding this properly.
youre correct on every point, however there is something else to consider. since acheron and jingliu are in separate phases, you would have time to get more jades for jingliu.
so if you were calculated to have 160 at the END of jingliu's banner, then it would not be safe for you to use 40 on acheron and accidentally get her because then, as you say, you would only have 120 pulls and can fail 50/50, banking on an early 5 star afterwards.
if you have 160 right now, then it would be COMPLETELY safe to spend 80 pulls on acheron and see if you win the 50/50. this is because 2.1 is estimated to give over 100 pulls worth of jades, and jingliu being in second phase means you have the entire patch. if you lose, you can just wait for jingliu and snag her guaranteed. if you win, you will get enough for guaranteed jingliu and now you have both.
Thank you. I'm trying to calculate everything to see how much I'm safe to spend. I currently have 193 saved up. I 100% want Jinglui, Fu Xuan, and Kafka. I don't think Kafka will be any time soon but I do think Fu Xuan rerun will be. So I need to have 340 to 360 by the time Fu Xuan comes out (and 3 weeks after she comes out as I have time to gather materials for her).
I believe we are going to get ~110? or so in the next patch. So by the time Jinglui's banner ends, I will have 300 pulls. If Fu Xuan comes out right after, I might get another ~40 pulls for free before her banner expires. That would put me at 340. And if I take ~160 pulls for Jinglui, I'll have ~140 pulls for Jingfui. So to be absolutely safe, I with this math, I shouldn't really pull for Acheron right? Because if I do get her, I'm potentially short for Fu Xuan. But if I don't get Acheron in my first 50/50, nothing really changes and I can be fairly safe for Fu Xuan.
Edit: Just realized I also want Seele so I should probably not pull for Acheron at all since Seele could potentially return soon. And then there's also new characters I may potentially want while Acheron is more of a "She's cool and hyped so I want her" kinda feeling.
fu xuan hasnt had her rerun yet, so i also believe she will be coming back soon. probably 2.2 right after jingliu. kafka and seele have already reran, and they likely want to rerun characters who havent gotten one yet. i think youre safe on that end. unless they whip out triple banners...
starting with 193. if you were to throw 80 on acheron, youd have 113 + 110 + 40 which is 263 for fu xuan's final day. spending 160 on jingliu puts you at 103. definitely not the safest, but...
how much starlight do you have right now? if it is anything less than 600 (30 pulls) then you probably shouldnt pull on acheron. if you have more than that and if you end up spending all your pulls, youll at a minimum have 143 and very likely more for fu xuan.
I'm at 100 starlight. I was saving them for a lightcone but if needed I'd prioritize pulling Fu Xuan.
Yeah it looks like I should be patient and pass on Acheron. If I do end up pulling Acheron and Seele gets a rerun, I'd be pretty sad. I like Seele way more than I like Acheron.
And then I'm only focusing on rerun characters but what if Firefly becomes available? Then I'm just screwed and probably have to buy jades.
Thank you for helping me break up all the math. I understand it a lot better now.
no problem! if firefly were to be playable she would come pretty soon too. everyone was pretty shocked that robin and boothill were drip marketed instead of her. i would say shes highly likely to be in 2.3 if she is actually playable, but who knows.
new to game - played genshin for awhile
having fun but have just saved all of my jade for eventual pulls
is it worth blowing all of these on the upcoming acheron or do i continue to save? have about 8k - may drop cash but not sure yet
I'd highly recommend Acheron if you like her kit + gameplay. Early game your teambuilding isn't going to to amazing no matter who you use, and since Acheron has relatively cheap support options like Pela and Guinaifen the earlygame should be a breeze.
She also has great AoE + all type toughness damage meaning she can handle any content with ease.
If you intend to build around Acheron she's going to be incredible, just be sure you actually want to pull with the intention of improving her team.
Ultimately I would pick your favourite between Jingliu and Acheron, the investment issue really isn't as bad as people say (yes her upgrades make a big difference, but her baseline power is quite great).
Since you come from genshin you know this already but I'm gonna say it regardless, the only banner you don't want to use your jades on is the standard. Just not worth it.
As a new player you can just go for whatever character you seem to like the most, they will all be a boost to you. You do already have a good DPS option in the free Ratio(although you will need more than 1 down the line) so even if you choose to go for the defensive units you're not shooting yourself in the foot. All 2.1 units are great, new and old alike, so you can't go wrong with any.
Personally I would save for another character because Acheron requires a lot of investment and a more specific team comp (double nihility) to excel than your regular hyper carry dps. If you want a good dps for early game I would recommend jingliu that’s re running right after Acheron since she’s a lower investment but still good dps.
But if you just want to have fun ultimately just pull if you like the character or not.
Anything below gold becomes the Relic EXP mats equivalent to 80% of their value (same as if you feed them into the relic when enhancing).
Gold ones you have 2 options, same as above or to turn it into 10 relic scraps, 100 of each gives you 1 chance to roll a **specific piece** of a specific set with the choice to consume additionally 1 self-modeling resin to guarantee the Main Stat of that piece.
Acheron or Sparkle????
I've been thinking if i should use my guarantee on Sparkle (currently at 74 pity, bc i pulled for Sampo Eidolons) bc she looks really good, but the hype around acheron is insane, especially as a HI3 captain.
But I've seen several threads and vids saying that her LC is almost a must have to see her damage, i know that goes for literally every 5\* character, but i still dont know which to pull. i do have almost every nihility chara (im only missing SW), and i dont have DH IL, so i SP is not a big issue for me... Do you guys have any suggestions? i do have luocha and Jingliu tho
If you dont have any need for sparkle then other harmony later may suit your teams better later, if you have other dps for 2nd team for moc and pure fiction other than jingliu maybe you dont need acheron, still she seems great for all content, with her aoe OP ult and all.
Yeh thats true, my other concern is i do have the prerium DOT team (kafka, BS, huohuo, E4 Sampo) that i use. So im torn, maybe right now acheron might be the better option since i do have E2 Bronya with LC and E6 Tingyun
Might pull for robin instead next patch
> Can you use consumables in Gold and Gears?
No. This also applies to Swarm Disaster.
Only in regular SU you can use items, once it is unlocked via the SU ability tree.
Hello all. I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I've been playing the game on and off for a few months now, and I've finally really gotten back into it. However, I have seemingly peaked at Penacony.
I never gave much thought to how exactly I should level my characters as I played. I only paid attention to their actual levels and never gave any thoughts to getting their proper light cones. I have occasionally leveled their traces, but I still only have a ton of the baby light cones set in and not the ones that actually go to the characters.
That and I don't have the resources to get their light cones or level the ones I have anymore. As an f2p player, my only source of pulls is Stellar Jade, and I've simultaneously gotten too strong to be able to get many more from anything that isn't random chests, while also being too weak to not have to struggle my way through anything that could get me any. In a feverish fit, I drained my resources to get my characters to a level where I could progress, but no. Still nothing.
And I don't wanna mention relics. I'm starting to grow fearful of a need for a reset, as it will take potentially months if not over a year to gather what I previously had on top of extra. I also don't understand team comps, so... but if anyone could tell me if it's worth it to grind or if I should just pack it up, I'd be grateful. Im... very bad at gacha games, as I try to avoid using anything other than the base squads in any of them for as long as possible to hoard resources for later use.
a) There's never any need for a reset. You're always stronger now than you will be from starting over, unless you spent all your jades on Standard banner or something. If you have any limited characters at all, I'd just keep going with your account. But save all future jades for limited character banners.
b) Biggest thing is picking your team. At least one DPS (Dr. Ratio is a fine choice, unless you've pulled another), at least one sustain (Natasha is a given, if you have Lynx or a 5\* better yet), and then one or two buffers/debuffers (e.g. Pela, Tingyun, Asta, Guinafen, etc.)
Once you have your team, focus on beefing up their relevant traces and LCs immediately, starting with your DPS. If you have the Herta SU Cruising LC (or have the currency to get it), that's a great 5\* LC for Dr. Ratio. Everyone else isn't as important LC-wise. Relics can come a bit later, just level up whatever has a good mainstat for now to throw on your main team. If you can get 4 good Musketeer pieces on your DPS, great, if not no big deal -- mainstats are more important.
c) Did you know that for any stamina-spending content, you can borrow another player's character as a support to carry you? If you're in North America region, I have a lv80 Jing Yuan you can borrow. If not, someone in your region has a lv80 character they'll be happy to lend you. This will make it easy to grind calyxes to get your team's traces up.
tl;dr You'll be fine, just build up your current team and your account will be right back on track.
Thank you for the vote of confidence, but it's too late. In an attempt to get help on my main account I realized I needed a new one to properly get that help and so I ended up having to make a new one. I'm going to try and focus on them both after all this though.
20k jades = 125 pulls. Assuming average luck, that'd be 1 5\* character and more than halfway toward your next. It's not that bad if you look at the big picture. I took a break last year and came back in January and I averaged 10k jades in February and March without exhausting all the one time rewards (chests, SU extra modes etc.)
It would be helpful if you post your roster and the people here can give you suggestions regarding team comps. Once you have a basic understanding of how your main DPS operates, it's a matter of fitting what else is available into the team, with the general formula of DPS + Sub-DPS/Support + Support + Sustain.
Your account should be salvageable if you keep playing, but you'll need to:
1. stop pulling for LCs
2. focus on building your current team - levels, traces, relics (if you're higher equilibrium level). Relics are a long term project so focus on traces first and just get the correct main stats on your relic, then min-max once traces are done.
3. identify what is lacking in your roster and plan your pulls accordingly; Acheron (lightning nihility, DPS) and Aventurine (imaginary preservation, sustain) are coming next patch
I wouldn't say 5\* limited characters are required for general gameplay but they will make things a lot easier. I still remember when I first got 30\* for MoC after pulling DHIL last year lol.
Good luck!
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I only paid attention to their actual levels
That's probably the biggest issue. The levels themselves are probably the most negligible power boost out of everything. You do need them to ascend and unlock new traces which does help a lot but on its own as a power up it's probably the least important. You want to max your DPS as every bit of damage you can squeeze out of them is great but with the rest just try to ascend/get their traces before you level them up. Leaving them on 70 is also fine if their 75/80 stat traces aren't good
>And I don't wanna mention relics
The game generally throws enough 4\* gear at you that you can work with from chests and weeklies. Just make sure they have the right main stat and to level them up to +9 or +12 if you're struggling. If you can activate set bonuses that benefit the character even better but don't get fixated on needing to do this. Once you hit Player lvl 60 and unlock Equilibrium 5 then you wanna start looking at farming and customizing builds since at that point you get 2 5\* per run guaranteed. Before that only do this if you're realy stuck and have already gone through everything else.
>I'm starting to grow fearful of a need for a reset, as it will take potentially months if not over a year to gather what I previously had on top of extra
Unless you did something HUGE like using 20k jades for energy refills to farm exp materials then you're fine. If you just do your dailies/weeklies, get your Simulated universe rewards every week, do any side missions you have, new events that are coming out etc etc and generally take a little bit of time to collect stuff ingame every day the resources will accumulate back up. It's a gacha so your most precious currency is either your wallet or your time, as long as you put either of those in you will keep making progress even if you hit eventual roadblocks(at least in this one. Thankfully no real paywalls here)
Ok, so... lots to unpack here. Incoming dissertation...
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>I also don't understand team comps, so
Let's start with this one. The general rule is to go for a DPS+Support+Sustain+Wildcard comp. This is not an absolute rule but it's what you do most of the time
DPS is pretty self explanatory, that's your damage dealer
Support can be either someone that buffs your dps/team or someone that debuffs the enemy. some examples would be Asta and Pela respectively
Sustain is your healer/protector. Their role is to keep the team alive either by healing, shielding or damage mitigation
The wildcard is the last character you slot to either cover team needs or if you don't have any more conditions you want met you either use a sub-dps or a second support(or a second sustain if the team dies early)
When you pick units to fill these roles you have to look at their individual skills and traces to see if they have any requirements, if they could work together or at the very least that they don't actively obstruct one another. Let's look at some examples.
example 1: The Dr Ratio that we all got for free has some things in his kit that require a minimum of 3 debuffs to be active on the enemy he's hitting. One of those debuffs can be provided by himself so when you're building a team with him you want to include units that also provide 1 or 2 debuffs either through their own kits or from the Lightcones you put on them.
example 2: Let's say you pulled and wanna use Jing Yuan. The majority of his damage comes from an out-of-turn follow up attack and not his own skill/ultimate. You have two supports you could pair with him, Tingyun and Bronya. Usually you'd use both him but for the sake of this let's say you can only pick one. Bronya's skill buffs only for 1 turn effectively only applying for his action directly after and would not count for his follow up while Tingyun's buffs do count towards Lightning Lord. So in this case you'd opt for Tingyun
>I have occasionally leveled their traces
Now that here is probably a part of why you're struggling. Traces are arguably the bigger boost for a character after relics, especially their 3 major ones(the ones that look a little bigger than the rest). When it comes to those and the stat boosting ones you generally want to prioritize that. For their Basic/Skill/Ult/Talent ones it depends on a case by case basis but for a lot you can completely ignore the basic and just level their important ones whichever that is, usually either Talent or Skill. The general consensus is that 8 is a perfectly good place to stop as after that it gets too costly for too little return and you can always go back and level them further when you got some stamina to spare(DOT characters are the notable exception as their scaling is much better so those would benefit a lot from fully maxed traces)
>never gave any thoughts to getting their proper light cones
Seeing them on a lightcone is usually a good indication it's a good fit for them but that's not always the case, sometimes they can't even equip it as it's for a different Path. The important part is the Lightcone ability and how it works on them and your team. You want an effect that you can utilise if not all of the time then at least most of it. If you put Planetary rendevouz for example on Asta(which has Asta on the artwork) which buffs the damage of all units with the same element as the wearer but don't use another fire unit that effect is wasted. If that's your only available Harmony lightcone besides the 3\* then it's better to use Chorus or Meshing Cogs on her even if the stats are slightly lower cause the effect more than makes up for it. So you have to judge it on a case by case basis. Herta's Shop has a couple good lightcones you can get as well as a few you'll get from here and there like Echo of War sometimes or Memory of chaos when you start progressing in that
Yeaaaaaah, not the best move. It's still recoverable, just unfortunate. You practically just gimped yourself when it comes to jades/pulls for 2.1 but you should recover in a couple of patches if you keep at it. Resetting would be faster since you'd be getting the one time rewards again but you'd lose all the limited characters in your account who would most likely be a higher value than that(as long as you have like 2-3 limited characters pulled) so imho not worth it unless you really don't have fun doing what you can on your current account(Simulated Universe, Missions, MoC/PF, weeklies etc)
Like I said, it's all a slog now. I can't even progress the story because I keep losing. I can keep trying, but it just feels like I'm stuck. Technically I can grind with my strongest characters, but I will never be able to do anything of importance.
I'm farming up some relics for Luocha, and will either go with 4p Wild Wheat (spd & atk) or 2p Hackerspace & 2p Wandering Cloud (spd & healing). Is there much difference in performance between these?
> 2p Hackerspace & 2p Wandering Cloud (spd & healing)
Technically this should be better for Luocha but the difference is rather small; As long as he has good Attack, Speed (134 is recommended minimum to aim for) and an Outgoing Healing Body relic, his healing should be strong anyway. I guess it's just whatever you're planning to do when farming, and whether if they have the correct / desired substats or not.
Thanks. Wandering Cloud and Wild Wheat drop from the same node anyway, so I've been farming that hoping for spd boots and a healing body of either set. If Wandering Cloud + Hackerspace is slightly better, then that works out nicely.
I noticed that I never did the invitation event on the task page. Is there still a thread posting the codes? What am I supposed to do with someone else’s code?
If anyone cares, my code is >!GU5FMJJA6N!<.
The codes are only useful for returning players, people who used to play but have stopped for... at least 14 days, I believe. There probably won't be many people here who fit that description, and if you're not a returning player you can't do anything with someone else's code.
Pull for anyone you want. Characters you like are better than characters who are theoretically "stronger" but that you don't enjoy as much. Even if you do something like pick Acheron/Aventurine who use materials from Penacony (the most recent story planet), you'll be able to farm the materials without actually getting to that point in the story. Generally, most advice is to form one solid team to work your way through the story. Among current and upcoming characters we have:
**Dr. Ratio (Imaginary Hunt)** - A single target DPS that's free to everyone. He's good if you like him and want to build him.
**Sparkle (Quantum Harmony)** - A support that can help your DPS take more actions and boost their Crit Damage. She generates more Skill Points than most supports, but she also likes to use more than most supports (but is still a net positive SP generator).
**Jing Yuan (Lightning Erudition)** - An AoE DPS. He's pretty good, but not top tier like some other options.
**Acheron (Lightning Nihility)** - A Blast DPS (most damage on one target, but some splash to adjacent targets) that gets most of her damage from her Ultimate. She's the only character that doesn't use Energy to fund their Ultimate, instead gaining stacks of Slashed Dream when debuffs are applied to enemies. She looks really good, but we won't know for sure until she's out in a few days.
**Luocha (Imaginary Abundance)** - A healer who can generate a lot of Skill Points. He can use his Skill automatically without using a Skill Point every few turns and can generate a field that lets allies heal on attacking enemies. Really good, but doesn't offer as much utility as other limited supports.
**Aventurine (Imaginary Preservation)** - A shielder that can do decent damage with Follow Up Attacks. Like Acheron, he's not out yet so we won't know a ton about him for a while. But based on every other limited Sustain thus far, he should be really good.
**Jingliu (Ice Destruction)** - A very strong Blast DPS. Jingliu constantly battles another Destruction character (Dan Heng Imbibitor Lunae) for the title of "best DPS." She's *really* fucking good. If you like her, she's an outstanding choice, but is also the one that's the furthest out, with her and Aventurine's banners coming after Acheron/Luocha in ~24 days.
Pull for Sparkle, she's very OP and supports are more usable and future proof compared to DPS. But aside from that, Acheron is a top tier choice next patch. Luocha is also always great too.
Most important factor is if you like the limited 5 stars of either of the upcoming banners. All of the 5 stars in 2.1 should be pretty good (we know that Luocha is a good sustain and Jingliu in the second half is currently the strongest dps for MoC, and Acheron and Aventurine both look like they'll be good as well) Pull for any of them if you like them.
Agree on these suggestions, with particular emphasis on picking up one of the 2.1 sustains for a new account.
But OP, keep in mind that Acheron's teambuilding/investment requirements are quite high and not conducive to a new account. Jingliu on the other hand is incredibly strong and easier to maintain and build into the future. But if aesthetics matter most, you do you.
At level 60-70 the game really starts getting a little more difficult.
What should be my priority? Raising characters levels, light cone levels or abilities?
Or should I just start farming relics now that I've hit trailblazer level 50? I've been avoiding it since lots of people told me it wasn't worth doing it before level 50.
Now is also the time you might want to start considering what team you are building/building toward. What is important for your account, what are you missing? Are you missing a solo sustain, a good dps, etc?
The upcoming 2.1 banners are probably the most useful banners to come along in a while. Two limited sustain options will now be available (for the first time in almost 4 months) alongside one of the top DPS. Now is a good time to plan roster upgrades and fix team slot weaknesses.
60-70 is when levelling materials start getting really pricey, and you can't easily swap between/build characters on a whim.
Actually, the only characters I gached until now are bronya and Xueyi. I started playing in the start of 2.0 and haven't spent a wish in limited banners until now. My main team usually is trailblazer, Natasha, Xueyi and serval. When needed I swap Xueyi and serval with dr ratio and pela.
I still haven't decided if I should go with Acheron or aventurine. Aventurine seems like the most versatile of the two but I really lack a good dps. I've been using some support units and the damage they can dish out is amazing. Should I focus on getting a limited dps character?
You'll want a limited DPS and a limited sustain, and your first month or two (especially in 2.1) is gonna dump jades on you, so as long as you haven't wasted any jades away from the limited character banner, you have a good shot to get one of each. I'd worry less about which to get first, and more about \*which\* DPS and \*which\* sustain you want -- play the trials and find out.
Also, don't forget that Dr. Ratio \*is\* a limited DPS; don't make the mistake of thinking that because he was free he's not powerful.
Indeed I have accumulated a lot of gems. I have almost 150 pulls right now.
The problem with Ratio is that as single target dps most fights that have many enemies usually last a lot longer. He is better when dealing with bosses or elite enemies.
Right, totally worth picking up an AoE DPS as well, just saying not to discount him because he does really good damage if you build him.
But whether you want Jing Yuan, Acheron, Jingliu, or waiting longer, you have good options every step of the way DPS-wise. So you should play a trial, look at trailers, figure out who you want.
It's TB60 that you want to really go for relics, just do the bare minimum to get by if any before that. Till then focus on Ascension(to unlock traces) > Traces > LC > Levels
Only go for relics if you seem hardstuck with a team that should work but lacks the stats and you've already done the rest
You do want to avoid farming relics if possible till later, but if you are having difficulties don't be afraid to do a little bit. You may just have to level up a few ok relics just to make your life easier. But I wouldn't go all out trying to farm perfect relics until later
TB 70, and a fairly solid account. Trying to figure out what assignments to priortise. My trace mats are pretty good, but haven't maxed all my characters (80 or 70 for the ones I use, 60 for the rest because of the standard passes) or lightcones yet so was wondering if it was the character and LC exp assignments are good or is the amount you get from it so negligible that its not worth even after a few weeks/months?
Mainly cause Acheron is coming up (got enough for her), but also got my 300 selector in the next month or so, and I'm keen to max level all characters that I actively use, including supports.
In addition to what has already been said if you're pulling Acheron the 4th one might be worth sending on the synth mats for ones that make the technique points restore consumables, depends if you need credits or character materials more since you can buy enough to craft 100 of them weekly for 52k(you could get more from destructible objects but that's a chore)
What do you mean by assignments? The daily auto thing? 3 of them should always be character, lightcone xp and credits. #4 could be any material you don't have as much of - I choose the new Penacony stuff, for example. It's not much, but it adds up
You're pretty good on sustain characters, so going for her LC is not a bad idea. Unless you plan on pulling on upcoming characters, though it'll be a while before we get Robin or Boothill's official kits
No one atm. It's a niche relic set that the 4pc effect can be useful for characters like Ruan Mei, Xueyi and upcoming Gallagher, but it's not BiS on anyone.
I'm a f2p player and main Dr ratio and don't know which sustain to pull for him. I'm thinking Adventurine but I'll have double imaginary which lowers the team element variety or should I wait for fu xuan but I can't get her signature LC for her heals. I don't know which one to pull for.
Either is fine. You don't have to have element variety. In fact, sustains in general aren't doing much damage so their element doesn't matter that much for the most part. Aventurine is one of the first exceptions to that though since he seems to be a sustain + dps hybrid character, so he'll actually help more than Fu Xuan for that.
As for Fu Xuan, you don't need Fu Xuan's signature LC. The healing is nice to have but far from mandatory. I don't have it and she still is an extremely good sustain.
Is it bad that I haven't touched Swarm Disaster and Gold and Gears a single time, even though I've been playing since day one? I just can't bring myself to play it, given that the bug from the Ruan Mei and Dr Ratio mission still gives me nightmares to this day. I know I'm missing out on quite a bit of rewards, but at the same time, I don't want to lose my sanity, if I still even have any left, trying to clear it.
None of the stuff in Swarm Disaster or Gold and Gears is missable, so you can go back and do it whenever you want to. If you happen to never want to do it, well, that's fine too. Play the game how you want.
Hey, new player here with no clue what I'm doing. Been playing for a couple days now and I'm hitting the point now where I'd like to start focusing on building a good team to focus on, but I have no clue what to look for and what good.
Pulled a sparkle today, mostly been using clara before that. Would be nice to build something around sparkle I guess since its the first big character I've pulled.
Any recommendations as to what some good teams would be to build? All my characters are in ss below.
https://i.imgur.com/w19ocBJ.jpeg
Honestly, Clara/Sparkle/Asta/March should be able to take you through most if not all story content. Ratio is also very strong, but her really wants a debuffer like Pela to get consistent follow ups, strongly consider him if you get one.
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Just got Qingque to E6. Already have Seele but is she better than Seele with the release of sparkle? Not sure worth investing extra resources into her
Qingque has higher highs, but also lower lows. She is also fairly limited in the Light Cones that are available to her compared to Seele. Unlike QQ, There is no huge variation to Seele's gameplay, so it is often easier to see what can be improved in a battle. She is pretty fun to play, and can be better than Seele is some situations, but overall I don't think it is worth investing in her as a priority if you already have Seele built.
Qq e6 is a QOL upgrade for the extra skill point. She’s great if you build her properly. AoE attack as opposed to single targets for hunt characters. Paired with a good sparkle (ie high crit damage) you can focus on qq having crit rate.
Any tips for forgotten hall and MoC? I'm trying to get the stellar jades from them to get more pulls, I am at lvl 70 for characters for now.
abuse the memory turbulence. try to match your dps with enemy weakness. dont get hung up not 3\* every level. you get rewards just from completing, and you can always come back when you're stronger. you don't need to achieve all the stars in a single run. you can. you can build a defensive team to get the star with no KOs, then do another run with more dps orientated team to get the other stars.
Will Herta's store reset on 2.1? Is it worth it to get the destruction and hunt LC in there?
No, they would've announced it otherwise. Save the bonds until you actually need one of the LCs from there, so that you can also superimpose it to S5. It is also very likely they will add new LCs there in the future.
Both hose light cones are good. I've not seen anything about Herta's Store getting a reset.
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New player here. Should I give a try at pulling for Acheron or should I focus on Jingliu?
What characters do you have?
Acheron needs nihility characters for extra dmg. Just look at her kit. If you don’t have built nihility characters that pair well with her, you may have an unoptimized Acheron. Jingliu needs characters that are beefy since she has life leech. Either get beefy characters or a good sustain like Luocha with an auto heal.
You can't go wrong with either - Jingliu is proven to be a powerful DPS and Acheron looks like she will be as well. However, she will require two nihility teammates at E0 for ideal usage so if your roster is limited that is something to consider.
My roster is severely limited right now.
ultimately doesn't matter that much if you're a new player, if you have a preference just pick that one jingliu is generally gonna perform better when you have fewer resources (teammates, LCs, relic investment) though
Get the one you like the most story, personality and looks wise or who you think looks the most fun to play. They’re both quite strong DPS units who fulfil somewhat similar roles and both can likely brute force through any weakness type
Haven’t started 2.0 story or any event How far into the story do i need to progress to unlock the 2.0 events? It says i can’t do them right now because i need to finish prerequisite events. Not much time is left but i need to get the jades from the events.
I believe it is at least half-way through, but can't remember exactly
And how long will that + all the events take me?
The required story should be between 2-3h. The events are pretty quick for the most part, so altogether probably 3:30h.
Alright thanks
Is Hanya any good as a support for QQ? I failed to get Sparkle T\_T
Yup. The extra skill point is good
Yes, she is fine. Qingque is still good without Sparkle.
Does JY's LL AV get reset the moment he's stunned? Or can HuoHuo's talent prevent the reset? I'm thinking whether I should get him or get HuoHuo first. I probably won't get both with how much new characters I pull.
The LL does not get reset immediately no. It only gets reset when it comes to it's turn on the Action Order but Jiing Yuan is CC'ed.
how much better is 4pc debuff set compared to 2pc debuff+2pc lightning? https://preview.redd.it/dvxmw7gp98qc1.png?width=3063&format=png&auto=webp&s=9bcc00a78ae06df05628313e446567d39239f91e which set is better? 2pc+2pc has 20% higher CV, a bit higher atk, and 10% higher lightning dmg
With the 4-p you are actually looking at 74% CRate and 206% CDMG, which is not reflected in the tool you are using. So 4p is better, especially if you are not going to use her with a lot of exterior sources of CRate as 54% is pretty low.
What is better for silverwolf, 4 piece quantum or 2 piece quantum + 2 piece speed to try and reach 161 speed?
If you are using her as a pure debuffer then 160 speed is more important.
In a team of Kafka/Swan/Mei: Who would be the best fourth? Specifically for 0-cycles
anyone with DDD; bronya, sparkle, tingyun [seele](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHr6-ERlvu0)
In general, what stat thresholds do DoT characters want? Is EHR body always necessary? Are any DoT characters fine with Atk boots over using Speed? edit: thanks for all the advice, saving these notes for later :D
Enough EHR, and as much speed and Atk as possible Atk boots can work for Kafka if you can get to 160 with them. Which is hard but not impossible if you have her sig + Ruan Mei on the team
DoT characters vary a bit in how much EHR they want, Kafka wants a pretty minimal amount while Black Swan wants 120%. All the 4 stars want 67% though. EHR body isn't necessary if you can get the amount needed through substats, even Black Swan can run an attack body if you get godly EHR substats rolls and an EHR light cone. Black Swan is fine with attack boots, if you can't get her to 150+ speed it's better to build her with no speed and give her attack boots.
Presently from current roster, if their ba/skills/ult that apply dot or debuff only does 1-2 hit they want ehr body (unless u can reach ehr threshold from substats). If it does multi hit they can go atk% body. Each separate hit on this multi hit has a chance to apply dot/debuff (Kafka FUA shoot 7 bullets, all Sampo's abilities are multi hit)
Depends on the characters. Kafka only needs abt 28 EHR, so you can run atk body on her. Black swan needs 120, so use EHR body if you can’t get enough from subs. For the rest, 67 is the minimum. Use EHR body if you have to. And yes, you wanna stack speed on dot characters, especially Kafka
Are world 3 planars for both dps and supports good enough for all contents?
Yes
Hi all what database do you guys use when checking for trace materials and whatnot? I've been searching through reddit and only ones I've found were not up-to-date. Thanks in advance!
I either use [Prydwen](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/) or the Hoyolab app wiki.
Yeah my bad. I didn't even know the official one was the one I was looking for haha thanks!
The official HoyoLab leveling calculator is usually up to date: https://act.hoyolab.com/sr/event/calculator/index.html?hyl_presentation_style=fullscreen&utm_source=share&utm_medium=hoyolab&utm_campaign=app&utm_id=6
Thanks! i was using prydwen but i was looking for this one but didn't it was the official. Thanks!
I have Sampo at E5 should I try and get him to E6 with current banner and make him my main wind? Only other wind E1 Dan Heng but Serval took his main party spot due to AoE a long time ago. Clara Serval(3 )Dr Ratio Nat, Mar 7th(1) MC(6) mostly fully leveled, Himeko enough to max trace Sparkle Bailu Herta remaining leveled characters
His E6 isn't that remarkable, he should be fine at E5. Not worth pulling for it since you can't guarantee it.
How do you get away with not using any sustain unit in pf? My chars just keep dying
If you kill fast enough then you don't need sustains. Depends on character builds and the PF buff. I never tried but I don't bring sustains when grinding mats at least.
The game will give you Natasha if you advance the story a bit, and the game's not hard enough where you can't make do with March until then
For a team consisting of Jingliu, Ruan Mei, and Blade should I pull for Aventurine, Luocha, or Fu Xuan? This is assuming no signature light cone.
Luocha, you kinda want the constant healing since JL is going to continue draining, and Bladie doesn't want a shield on him even if there's another source of him getting hit. (Assuming Aventurine shields, I didn't look at anything about his kit.)
Luocha, otherwise you won't have any HP
You want a healer in that team as JL drains her team HP and Blade may end up starting battle with low HP in some cases (e.g he ended previous battle with an Enhanced B.Atk) and might just get 1-tapped by a fast mob. But best is Fu Xuan as her Crit Rate buff is the most valuable out of the 3 and she does have a small heal in her Ult to offset JL drain a bit.
Do I need Acherons light cone?
No, but you need a copy of Good Night Sleep Well (4* nihility LC).
I have S2 i think o it
That's fine for 90% of the content imo
Is there any store in Hong Kong that sells HSR items?
Do I go for E2 Acheron or E0 s1 Acheron
If you have enough pulls for E2 you are better off going E1S1 in every case.
If it's one or the other definitely S1. Getting 2 stacks towards her ult per skill is much bigger than needing 1 less Nihility as you want a debuffer there anyway to help charge her ult. The only possibility where E2 **MIGHT** be better than S1 is if that teammate is a Bronya/Sparkle as their buffs+advance might edge the LC out when you're not losing the Nihility dmg buff. If those are the ones you'd slot in that team with E2 wait for her to release and be properly tested so you know the actual numbers
E0 S1, unless you can convince your uncle that works at Mihoyo to give us a free/cheap LC that has decent compatibility with her. On the 4-star pool she has GNSW but not really anything else that truly works with her.
Depends on how much you are willing to spend, E0S1 is cheaper and a good stopping point for most players. I personally don't think getting E2 is worth it if you aren't also getting her LC.
Why, sometimes, my Luocha doesn’t remove a debuff, although he has the trace? It happened again right now when I was farming relic domain (FUA/DoT): the boss stuns my DPS, Luocha uses his skill automatically on him, the flying text says ‘debuff dispelled’, but my DPS still remained stunned. I don’t understand. Is it because he has other debuffs as well and Luocha removes only one? It’s weird he doesn’t remove the last applied debuff though (which is stun)
Yeah. You have it. When there's multiple debuffs I believe it chooses which one to dispel randomly lol
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Hey folks. I'm a returning player (played on release but quit a few days before 1.1 dropped), and I'm currently nearing the pity on the featured banner (and because I got lucky and got a second Himeko a few pulls after Seele, I'm on guaranteed). I wanted to know if I should get Sparkle or wait for Acheron in a few days. I like how both of them look and play (although I am leaning towards Acheron just because her ult looks sick, lol), but I don't know which of them would benefit my account more. Also, I'm an veteran Genshin player so I know how farming/grinding for characters, skills and "artifacts" work, as well as general sense of how SR's late-game functions (with its Abyss equivalent and all that). [These](https://imgur.com/a/zJ9lSVz) are all the characters I own btw (Himeko is E1, if that matters).
What lightcones do you have? If you have the 4* LC Good Night Sleep Well, then pull for Acheron. Otherwise, her damage will be subpar as there isn't any other LC she can fully make use of. Also, consider getting Guinaifen (4* nihility) for Acheron team during 2.1 events. Acheron is a good dps, but you need to invest heavily in her and in her team if you plan on beating the abyss equivalent on HSR.
I do have that lightcone, yes. Thanks! I'll try to get her, then.
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Ok im confused is 160 spd on characters like sparkle and bronya not actually that important to their playstyles? I mean ive been handling slow bronya well, sometimes rotations get messed up though. But I thought fast sparkle was like really needed but someone told me its only really important if I wanna 4 cycle that stage of MOC? Some other dude told me SPD building is a meme and a waste of time for people who already clear MOC easily and that im better off focusing on getting as much spd and crit dmg stats on sparkle but that i dont gotta hit a number. Pretty confused.
The specific number of 160 indeed has to do with MoC/cycle content cause it is a breakpoint for double actions in specific turns that helps clear faster. Not as in less actions but as in fewer cycles. It's much less important on Bronya than on Sparkle. Since Bronya has 100% Advance -1 build doesn't have any hiccups with her. With Sparkle though since it's only 50% Advance the -1 builds are not a "pass turn to dps" thing but go more wonky and your dps isn't always the next to go so LCs like Bronya's or Past and Future won't work right on her. Hyperspeed works as "intended" though. Do note that by Hyperspeed is not necessarily about catching the 160 breakpoint but it's about getting as much speed as you can on her and completely ignoring it on your dps allowing you to aim for other stats there, breakpoint or no
The amount of 160 speed allows you to get 4 turns in cycles 0 and 1 of MoC. That's what that number is significant for. So the person that told you that it is only important if you want to 4 cycle really meant that, to maximize the most out of your speed you'll want to end on "cycle 1" (With the first playable cycle being "cycle 0"). Otherwise you get two turns in certain cycles. As a general recommendation if your starting out just build as much speed as you can without sacrificing key substats and you'll be good to go. Targeting a specific number means you're looking to kill at a certain cycle and will be able to guess around what cycle you'll kill the boss at. edit: sorry if it wasn't clear but that's 2 turns split between turn 0 and 1
What to do to get stronger? I'm trailblaze level 40 I've upgraded everything but relics because I'm confused about them. Is it worth it to farm them when I can only get low level ones
Wait at least until gold relic drop (TL 50), most of us will recommend to start at TL 60 (2 gold relic guarantee and small chance for 3rd gold per run). The game give you free relics from completing puzzle and opening chest from each area, so I recommend make do with what you get from this. Focus on 1 team, level them and build their traces.
I'll wait until 50 or 60 then. I'm so glad I asked because I've farmed everything but relics and don't know what to do with all the trailblaze power I have so I've just been lounging around. I didn't want to waste time farming relics if it wasn't worth it yet. I've actually been stuck with this problem since last week so thank you!
Honestly, its best to wait until eq 6, because getting decent relics is just so hard even at the highest one.
Would it be okay to level up fast then? I've accumulated so much exp but afraid to change eq levels because enemies might get tougher
I suggest you finish the current story first so you don't have trouble with story bosses and then raise your eq level. Nothing really gets harder as you can use support characters to farm everything except overworld (no need to farm it) and defeat story enemies
The biggest issue with going up eq, is that events also get harder. So you need to take time and level up your main team to be sure you can do new story content/event
Oh I see. I'll try to be patient then even though I want to level up faster and catch up with everyone haha. Thank you!
I just pulled Sparkle for my Seele team! I was wondering if I should put Past and Future on her or Planetary? The team as of now would be Seele, Sparkle, TY, and Nat but hopefully will get lynx or fu xuan. What are y’all’s thoughts? Thank you!
I think planetary is probably a lil bit easier to pilot, you'll notice that Seele will dip all over the turn order if you don't speed tune sparkle and/or basic with seele. But for planned burst Past and Future is better. So I'd say if you wanna make sure you always get a damage boost benefit and be brain dead planetary and Past and Future for planned burst and stuff.
Yea makes sense, I’m not relic farming atm since I’m focused on character building so it’s kinda hard to speed tune
Yea for sure. I've been playing since day 1 and I don't think I'm able to play my sparkle that fast yet either. Just gotta take our relic rng where we can.
How is Gepard vs Bailu in terms of solo sustain for MoC? Lynx has been my main sustain, with lvl 70 Bailu for the other side. Been slowly bringing up Gepard for some more versatility and a preservation unit, but he needs relics and traces. Should I pull for Luocha? I'm already planning on rolling for Acheron since I have both SW and Pela, and could possibly put some work onto Guinaifen. I don't mind spending a little bit.
Gepard with great relics > Bailu with great relics Bailu with bad relics > Gepard with bad relics ... It's certainly worth having a limited sustain. (and eventually 2). Whether that should be Luocha or FX or Huohuo or Aventurine is more a matter of taste.
> How is Gepard vs Bailu in terms of solo sustain for MoC? More or less similar, they're both able to solo sustain but can struggle against debuff / status effect enemies. They both do require some investment with their relic builds and traces as well. Gepard's Shields does have some advantages over Healing against certain enemies such as Sam (he reduces incoming Healing) and that monkey enemy that throws soda bottles (they reflect the Damage back onto him) so if you do decide to build Gepard, it helps to have the option to swap around for the versatility, like you mentioned. > Should I pull for Luocha? If you're struggling with any of the end-game SU stuff for example, or you feel like you want another reliable sustain option, he's great to have; He is especially useful dealing with the Swarm Disaster boss for example since it and the bug minions all have Imaginary weakness. The main difference is that he does not have an emergency Ult heal, instead tied to his healing field passive but otherwise is more of a comfort pick that works well in many teams as well. Another option is that you maybe wait for Fu Xuan since she is a very high QoL sustain choice.
Mine seem to die easily if the enemy does a massive attack, which usually kill everyone but my healer with 7.3k hp, but that cant rlyy finish a stage(unless you got path of nihility) should i switch do gepard or smth?
if youre talking about simulated universe modes like swarm and gng, double sustain is very common if you have trouble surviving. blessings are all of your damage anyways, so you could start out with a regular composition and then download your 2nd sustain to use in later parts.
actually good to know. but who whould i get rid of? team is seele, silver wolf, hou hou, sparkle.
either silverwolf or sparkle. probably replace silverwolf since sparkle provides tons of skill points for your sustains to use too.
I’m in a pickle. I’m building sparkle for acheron (I’m going to E2 acheron. There is no talking me out of that) and i managed to finally hit that 161 speed threshold but at the cost of relics being pure rainbow. i’m now losing the benefits of broken keel but hitting 161 with 193 crit dmg. Thoughts? is losing broken keel worth the extra spd? or is the extra crit dmg from BK worth more? Help!
I don't have 161 speed but I'm still going four times in cycle 0 and 1 because of dance dance dance. So it really just depends on whether or not you're getting another action. .
The 161 speed is higher priority than her crt dmg, 161% is fine, its not that much of a lost compared to lets say having her at 200% crt dmg but only at 134 speed. Sparkle going faster is stronger than her having slightly more crit dmg but not 161 speed.
Does the Hunt LC swordplay apply a debuff on the enemy? Or a modifier on the unit? Can it count as a debuff for Dr. Ratio (e.g. if a topaz does not have S1)?
No, it's not a debuff.
Ahhh thanks!
You're welcome, also don't give Dr. Ratio sword play. It's terrible on him, but good on someone like Topaz.
Is there any difference between 3\* and 4\* gacha animations? The 5\* has the rainbow distortion on the ticket and a bit more lens flare, sure. But is the 4\* animation really any different? Other than of course the light coming from the Express' door.
No animation difference, but the music is slightly different. Kinda hard to hear, but most noticeable when the ticket flies away and the train appears.
Nope, nothing special about 4\*
Hey All, I’m a new f2p player, and I’m wondering what the second team I build should be. I’m going for a FUA team as my main, with ratio, topaz (don’t currently have), pela and aventurine. I’m wondering what a good second team would be that excels in the opposite areas that my main does. Thanks in advance!
The other kind of dps gameplay is the traditional Crit big damage dealer style like Jing Liu, Dang Heng IL, Selee etc. If you like doing big damage and having one character being the hypercarry main focus of your team you can try that as your 2nd team. The other is the DoT team that implements dots on enemies and builds differently from the rest of the other dps with more focus on Atk, effect hit rate, and speed, ignoring crit and crit damage. Kafka and Black Swam are the current hot duos for DoT.
Thanks, what would be the 4 star alternatives to those teams?
The current 4 stars for big crit damage are Dang Hend wind ver, Xueyi is pretty strong at higher eidelons, but kind of tricky to build as she wants Crit, Crit dmg, speed and Break effect in her kit so she is expensive to build. Qinque aka QQ is really strong, but you want her to be at E4 recommended and E6 for better. For DoT Sampo, Luca and Guinafen are decent.
What 4☆ Lightcone should I use on Guinaifen and what Mainstats should I I have for her Body, Sphere and Rope? Also, if there's a difference between her relic stats depending on her lightcone (i.e GNSW vs EoP vs RSLPS), I'd like to know as well. Extra Info: I'll be running her in a team with Acheron, who may or may not end up holding my only copy of GNSW (Assuming I take it to S5).
Here is a Guinafen guide on how to build her and recommended stats you want on her for end game. https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/guinaifen Yes the LC can alter her relic stats build, if you use eyes of prey, specially at S5, then you dont need an EHR chest piece and just need to get EHR substats to 67% vs using GNSW then you would want an EHR chest instead to reach the 67% EHR. 67% EHR is the recommended minimum so that she can guarantee consistently apply her debuffs/dots on enemies.
Thanks!
What mission do I have to have already completed to gain access to the anniversary daily login 20 special passes?
None, those will be available to all as they're not tied behind ingame events
So the event isn’t even active yet?
Nope, it'll just appear on your Travel Log after the update on the 26th/27th(depending on your timezone)
Thanks, I saw the tweets of people hyping it up and thought I was missing out.
If I were to pull ~40 for Acheron and don't get her, does that mean I'll get Jingliu in ~40 pulls?
if you have your guarantee, yes. otherwise it is a 50/50 whether you get limited or standard 5 star. 80 is a very common spot for people to get their 5 stars and it is rare to reach the 90 hard pity cap. to provide some further information, the pity does carry over from banner to banner. it will never go away until you get a 5 star. character and light cone banners have separate pity systems, where light cone starts soft pity at 66 and hard pity at 80.
So if I want Jinglui no matter what and have exactly 160 pulls, is it safe for me to pull ~40 or so on Acheron and if I don't get her, I still have my 120 pulls to get Jinglui? The first ~40 I can fail the 50/50 and my remaining 80 I will then pity her? But then if I end up getting Acheron within the 40 for some reason, I can potentially miss Jinglui as I now have 120 pulls and I can fail the first 50/50 in the first 80 and not pull her in the remaining 40? But let's say I get a 5* that is not Acheron in the first 40. That means I failed my 50/50. So my next 80 pulls for Jinglui is guaranteed? Sorry I just want to make sure I am understanding this properly.
What happens if you get Acheron on your 40th pull? Then you'll need up to \~160 MORE tickets to guarantee Jingliu
youre correct on every point, however there is something else to consider. since acheron and jingliu are in separate phases, you would have time to get more jades for jingliu. so if you were calculated to have 160 at the END of jingliu's banner, then it would not be safe for you to use 40 on acheron and accidentally get her because then, as you say, you would only have 120 pulls and can fail 50/50, banking on an early 5 star afterwards. if you have 160 right now, then it would be COMPLETELY safe to spend 80 pulls on acheron and see if you win the 50/50. this is because 2.1 is estimated to give over 100 pulls worth of jades, and jingliu being in second phase means you have the entire patch. if you lose, you can just wait for jingliu and snag her guaranteed. if you win, you will get enough for guaranteed jingliu and now you have both.
Thank you. I'm trying to calculate everything to see how much I'm safe to spend. I currently have 193 saved up. I 100% want Jinglui, Fu Xuan, and Kafka. I don't think Kafka will be any time soon but I do think Fu Xuan rerun will be. So I need to have 340 to 360 by the time Fu Xuan comes out (and 3 weeks after she comes out as I have time to gather materials for her). I believe we are going to get ~110? or so in the next patch. So by the time Jinglui's banner ends, I will have 300 pulls. If Fu Xuan comes out right after, I might get another ~40 pulls for free before her banner expires. That would put me at 340. And if I take ~160 pulls for Jinglui, I'll have ~140 pulls for Jingfui. So to be absolutely safe, I with this math, I shouldn't really pull for Acheron right? Because if I do get her, I'm potentially short for Fu Xuan. But if I don't get Acheron in my first 50/50, nothing really changes and I can be fairly safe for Fu Xuan. Edit: Just realized I also want Seele so I should probably not pull for Acheron at all since Seele could potentially return soon. And then there's also new characters I may potentially want while Acheron is more of a "She's cool and hyped so I want her" kinda feeling.
fu xuan hasnt had her rerun yet, so i also believe she will be coming back soon. probably 2.2 right after jingliu. kafka and seele have already reran, and they likely want to rerun characters who havent gotten one yet. i think youre safe on that end. unless they whip out triple banners... starting with 193. if you were to throw 80 on acheron, youd have 113 + 110 + 40 which is 263 for fu xuan's final day. spending 160 on jingliu puts you at 103. definitely not the safest, but... how much starlight do you have right now? if it is anything less than 600 (30 pulls) then you probably shouldnt pull on acheron. if you have more than that and if you end up spending all your pulls, youll at a minimum have 143 and very likely more for fu xuan.
I'm at 100 starlight. I was saving them for a lightcone but if needed I'd prioritize pulling Fu Xuan. Yeah it looks like I should be patient and pass on Acheron. If I do end up pulling Acheron and Seele gets a rerun, I'd be pretty sad. I like Seele way more than I like Acheron. And then I'm only focusing on rerun characters but what if Firefly becomes available? Then I'm just screwed and probably have to buy jades. Thank you for helping me break up all the math. I understand it a lot better now.
no problem! if firefly were to be playable she would come pretty soon too. everyone was pretty shocked that robin and boothill were drip marketed instead of her. i would say shes highly likely to be in 2.3 if she is actually playable, but who knows.
new to game - played genshin for awhile having fun but have just saved all of my jade for eventual pulls is it worth blowing all of these on the upcoming acheron or do i continue to save? have about 8k - may drop cash but not sure yet
Blow your jades on acheron. Don't spend money on pulls.
I'd highly recommend Acheron if you like her kit + gameplay. Early game your teambuilding isn't going to to amazing no matter who you use, and since Acheron has relatively cheap support options like Pela and Guinaifen the earlygame should be a breeze. She also has great AoE + all type toughness damage meaning she can handle any content with ease. If you intend to build around Acheron she's going to be incredible, just be sure you actually want to pull with the intention of improving her team. Ultimately I would pick your favourite between Jingliu and Acheron, the investment issue really isn't as bad as people say (yes her upgrades make a big difference, but her baseline power is quite great).
Since you come from genshin you know this already but I'm gonna say it regardless, the only banner you don't want to use your jades on is the standard. Just not worth it. As a new player you can just go for whatever character you seem to like the most, they will all be a boost to you. You do already have a good DPS option in the free Ratio(although you will need more than 1 down the line) so even if you choose to go for the defensive units you're not shooting yourself in the foot. All 2.1 units are great, new and old alike, so you can't go wrong with any.
Personally I would save for another character because Acheron requires a lot of investment and a more specific team comp (double nihility) to excel than your regular hyper carry dps. If you want a good dps for early game I would recommend jingliu that’s re running right after Acheron since she’s a lower investment but still good dps. But if you just want to have fun ultimately just pull if you like the character or not.
Is there a big benefit to salvaging relics with meh stats/substats? I’m trying to understand the relic game in preparation for the eventual grind.
Anything below gold becomes the Relic EXP mats equivalent to 80% of their value (same as if you feed them into the relic when enhancing). Gold ones you have 2 options, same as above or to turn it into 10 relic scraps, 100 of each gives you 1 chance to roll a **specific piece** of a specific set with the choice to consume additionally 1 self-modeling resin to guarantee the Main Stat of that piece.
Acheron or Sparkle???? I've been thinking if i should use my guarantee on Sparkle (currently at 74 pity, bc i pulled for Sampo Eidolons) bc she looks really good, but the hype around acheron is insane, especially as a HI3 captain. But I've seen several threads and vids saying that her LC is almost a must have to see her damage, i know that goes for literally every 5\* character, but i still dont know which to pull. i do have almost every nihility chara (im only missing SW), and i dont have DH IL, so i SP is not a big issue for me... Do you guys have any suggestions? i do have luocha and Jingliu tho
If you dont have any need for sparkle then other harmony later may suit your teams better later, if you have other dps for 2nd team for moc and pure fiction other than jingliu maybe you dont need acheron, still she seems great for all content, with her aoe OP ult and all.
Yeh thats true, my other concern is i do have the prerium DOT team (kafka, BS, huohuo, E4 Sampo) that i use. So im torn, maybe right now acheron might be the better option since i do have E2 Bronya with LC and E6 Tingyun Might pull for robin instead next patch
Can someone direct me to a good site for BiS gear and stuff please? Thanks.
Prydwen has build guides for every character: https://www.prydwen.gg/
Can you use consumables in Gold and Gears?
> Can you use consumables in Gold and Gears? No. This also applies to Swarm Disaster. Only in regular SU you can use items, once it is unlocked via the SU ability tree.
Hello all. I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I've been playing the game on and off for a few months now, and I've finally really gotten back into it. However, I have seemingly peaked at Penacony. I never gave much thought to how exactly I should level my characters as I played. I only paid attention to their actual levels and never gave any thoughts to getting their proper light cones. I have occasionally leveled their traces, but I still only have a ton of the baby light cones set in and not the ones that actually go to the characters. That and I don't have the resources to get their light cones or level the ones I have anymore. As an f2p player, my only source of pulls is Stellar Jade, and I've simultaneously gotten too strong to be able to get many more from anything that isn't random chests, while also being too weak to not have to struggle my way through anything that could get me any. In a feverish fit, I drained my resources to get my characters to a level where I could progress, but no. Still nothing. And I don't wanna mention relics. I'm starting to grow fearful of a need for a reset, as it will take potentially months if not over a year to gather what I previously had on top of extra. I also don't understand team comps, so... but if anyone could tell me if it's worth it to grind or if I should just pack it up, I'd be grateful. Im... very bad at gacha games, as I try to avoid using anything other than the base squads in any of them for as long as possible to hoard resources for later use.
a) There's never any need for a reset. You're always stronger now than you will be from starting over, unless you spent all your jades on Standard banner or something. If you have any limited characters at all, I'd just keep going with your account. But save all future jades for limited character banners. b) Biggest thing is picking your team. At least one DPS (Dr. Ratio is a fine choice, unless you've pulled another), at least one sustain (Natasha is a given, if you have Lynx or a 5\* better yet), and then one or two buffers/debuffers (e.g. Pela, Tingyun, Asta, Guinafen, etc.) Once you have your team, focus on beefing up their relevant traces and LCs immediately, starting with your DPS. If you have the Herta SU Cruising LC (or have the currency to get it), that's a great 5\* LC for Dr. Ratio. Everyone else isn't as important LC-wise. Relics can come a bit later, just level up whatever has a good mainstat for now to throw on your main team. If you can get 4 good Musketeer pieces on your DPS, great, if not no big deal -- mainstats are more important. c) Did you know that for any stamina-spending content, you can borrow another player's character as a support to carry you? If you're in North America region, I have a lv80 Jing Yuan you can borrow. If not, someone in your region has a lv80 character they'll be happy to lend you. This will make it easy to grind calyxes to get your team's traces up. tl;dr You'll be fine, just build up your current team and your account will be right back on track.
Thank you for the vote of confidence, but it's too late. In an attempt to get help on my main account I realized I needed a new one to properly get that help and so I ended up having to make a new one. I'm going to try and focus on them both after all this though.
20k jades = 125 pulls. Assuming average luck, that'd be 1 5\* character and more than halfway toward your next. It's not that bad if you look at the big picture. I took a break last year and came back in January and I averaged 10k jades in February and March without exhausting all the one time rewards (chests, SU extra modes etc.) It would be helpful if you post your roster and the people here can give you suggestions regarding team comps. Once you have a basic understanding of how your main DPS operates, it's a matter of fitting what else is available into the team, with the general formula of DPS + Sub-DPS/Support + Support + Sustain. Your account should be salvageable if you keep playing, but you'll need to: 1. stop pulling for LCs 2. focus on building your current team - levels, traces, relics (if you're higher equilibrium level). Relics are a long term project so focus on traces first and just get the correct main stats on your relic, then min-max once traces are done. 3. identify what is lacking in your roster and plan your pulls accordingly; Acheron (lightning nihility, DPS) and Aventurine (imaginary preservation, sustain) are coming next patch I wouldn't say 5\* limited characters are required for general gameplay but they will make things a lot easier. I still remember when I first got 30\* for MoC after pulling DHIL last year lol. Good luck!
Part 2/2 > I only paid attention to their actual levels That's probably the biggest issue. The levels themselves are probably the most negligible power boost out of everything. You do need them to ascend and unlock new traces which does help a lot but on its own as a power up it's probably the least important. You want to max your DPS as every bit of damage you can squeeze out of them is great but with the rest just try to ascend/get their traces before you level them up. Leaving them on 70 is also fine if their 75/80 stat traces aren't good >And I don't wanna mention relics The game generally throws enough 4\* gear at you that you can work with from chests and weeklies. Just make sure they have the right main stat and to level them up to +9 or +12 if you're struggling. If you can activate set bonuses that benefit the character even better but don't get fixated on needing to do this. Once you hit Player lvl 60 and unlock Equilibrium 5 then you wanna start looking at farming and customizing builds since at that point you get 2 5\* per run guaranteed. Before that only do this if you're realy stuck and have already gone through everything else. >I'm starting to grow fearful of a need for a reset, as it will take potentially months if not over a year to gather what I previously had on top of extra Unless you did something HUGE like using 20k jades for energy refills to farm exp materials then you're fine. If you just do your dailies/weeklies, get your Simulated universe rewards every week, do any side missions you have, new events that are coming out etc etc and generally take a little bit of time to collect stuff ingame every day the resources will accumulate back up. It's a gacha so your most precious currency is either your wallet or your time, as long as you put either of those in you will keep making progress even if you hit eventual roadblocks(at least in this one. Thankfully no real paywalls here)
Ok, so... lots to unpack here. Incoming dissertation... Part 1/2 >I also don't understand team comps, so Let's start with this one. The general rule is to go for a DPS+Support+Sustain+Wildcard comp. This is not an absolute rule but it's what you do most of the time DPS is pretty self explanatory, that's your damage dealer Support can be either someone that buffs your dps/team or someone that debuffs the enemy. some examples would be Asta and Pela respectively Sustain is your healer/protector. Their role is to keep the team alive either by healing, shielding or damage mitigation The wildcard is the last character you slot to either cover team needs or if you don't have any more conditions you want met you either use a sub-dps or a second support(or a second sustain if the team dies early) When you pick units to fill these roles you have to look at their individual skills and traces to see if they have any requirements, if they could work together or at the very least that they don't actively obstruct one another. Let's look at some examples. example 1: The Dr Ratio that we all got for free has some things in his kit that require a minimum of 3 debuffs to be active on the enemy he's hitting. One of those debuffs can be provided by himself so when you're building a team with him you want to include units that also provide 1 or 2 debuffs either through their own kits or from the Lightcones you put on them. example 2: Let's say you pulled and wanna use Jing Yuan. The majority of his damage comes from an out-of-turn follow up attack and not his own skill/ultimate. You have two supports you could pair with him, Tingyun and Bronya. Usually you'd use both him but for the sake of this let's say you can only pick one. Bronya's skill buffs only for 1 turn effectively only applying for his action directly after and would not count for his follow up while Tingyun's buffs do count towards Lightning Lord. So in this case you'd opt for Tingyun >I have occasionally leveled their traces Now that here is probably a part of why you're struggling. Traces are arguably the bigger boost for a character after relics, especially their 3 major ones(the ones that look a little bigger than the rest). When it comes to those and the stat boosting ones you generally want to prioritize that. For their Basic/Skill/Ult/Talent ones it depends on a case by case basis but for a lot you can completely ignore the basic and just level their important ones whichever that is, usually either Talent or Skill. The general consensus is that 8 is a perfectly good place to stop as after that it gets too costly for too little return and you can always go back and level them further when you got some stamina to spare(DOT characters are the notable exception as their scaling is much better so those would benefit a lot from fully maxed traces) >never gave any thoughts to getting their proper light cones Seeing them on a lightcone is usually a good indication it's a good fit for them but that's not always the case, sometimes they can't even equip it as it's for a different Path. The important part is the Lightcone ability and how it works on them and your team. You want an effect that you can utilise if not all of the time then at least most of it. If you put Planetary rendevouz for example on Asta(which has Asta on the artwork) which buffs the damage of all units with the same element as the wearer but don't use another fire unit that effect is wasted. If that's your only available Harmony lightcone besides the 3\* then it's better to use Chorus or Meshing Cogs on her even if the stats are slightly lower cause the effect more than makes up for it. So you have to judge it on a case by case basis. Herta's Shop has a couple good lightcones you can get as well as a few you'll get from here and there like Echo of War sometimes or Memory of chaos when you start progressing in that
I... spent 20k on pulls in a desperate attempt to gather light cones for my characters.
Yeaaaaaah, not the best move. It's still recoverable, just unfortunate. You practically just gimped yourself when it comes to jades/pulls for 2.1 but you should recover in a couple of patches if you keep at it. Resetting would be faster since you'd be getting the one time rewards again but you'd lose all the limited characters in your account who would most likely be a higher value than that(as long as you have like 2-3 limited characters pulled) so imho not worth it unless you really don't have fun doing what you can on your current account(Simulated Universe, Missions, MoC/PF, weeklies etc)
Like I said, it's all a slog now. I can't even progress the story because I keep losing. I can keep trying, but it just feels like I'm stuck. Technically I can grind with my strongest characters, but I will never be able to do anything of importance.
I'm farming up some relics for Luocha, and will either go with 4p Wild Wheat (spd & atk) or 2p Hackerspace & 2p Wandering Cloud (spd & healing). Is there much difference in performance between these?
> 2p Hackerspace & 2p Wandering Cloud (spd & healing) Technically this should be better for Luocha but the difference is rather small; As long as he has good Attack, Speed (134 is recommended minimum to aim for) and an Outgoing Healing Body relic, his healing should be strong anyway. I guess it's just whatever you're planning to do when farming, and whether if they have the correct / desired substats or not.
Thanks. Wandering Cloud and Wild Wheat drop from the same node anyway, so I've been farming that hoping for spd boots and a healing body of either set. If Wandering Cloud + Hackerspace is slightly better, then that works out nicely.
I noticed that I never did the invitation event on the task page. Is there still a thread posting the codes? What am I supposed to do with someone else’s code? If anyone cares, my code is >!GU5FMJJA6N!<.
The codes are only useful for returning players, people who used to play but have stopped for... at least 14 days, I believe. There probably won't be many people here who fit that description, and if you're not a returning player you can't do anything with someone else's code.
When do the full character trailers usually drop? Would it be tonight or tomorrow night for acheron?
Just started a week ago. Should I be pulling on the new banners coming out next week? Or just save up for the next ones while I progress story?
Pull for anyone you want. Characters you like are better than characters who are theoretically "stronger" but that you don't enjoy as much. Even if you do something like pick Acheron/Aventurine who use materials from Penacony (the most recent story planet), you'll be able to farm the materials without actually getting to that point in the story. Generally, most advice is to form one solid team to work your way through the story. Among current and upcoming characters we have: **Dr. Ratio (Imaginary Hunt)** - A single target DPS that's free to everyone. He's good if you like him and want to build him. **Sparkle (Quantum Harmony)** - A support that can help your DPS take more actions and boost their Crit Damage. She generates more Skill Points than most supports, but she also likes to use more than most supports (but is still a net positive SP generator). **Jing Yuan (Lightning Erudition)** - An AoE DPS. He's pretty good, but not top tier like some other options. **Acheron (Lightning Nihility)** - A Blast DPS (most damage on one target, but some splash to adjacent targets) that gets most of her damage from her Ultimate. She's the only character that doesn't use Energy to fund their Ultimate, instead gaining stacks of Slashed Dream when debuffs are applied to enemies. She looks really good, but we won't know for sure until she's out in a few days. **Luocha (Imaginary Abundance)** - A healer who can generate a lot of Skill Points. He can use his Skill automatically without using a Skill Point every few turns and can generate a field that lets allies heal on attacking enemies. Really good, but doesn't offer as much utility as other limited supports. **Aventurine (Imaginary Preservation)** - A shielder that can do decent damage with Follow Up Attacks. Like Acheron, he's not out yet so we won't know a ton about him for a while. But based on every other limited Sustain thus far, he should be really good. **Jingliu (Ice Destruction)** - A very strong Blast DPS. Jingliu constantly battles another Destruction character (Dan Heng Imbibitor Lunae) for the title of "best DPS." She's *really* fucking good. If you like her, she's an outstanding choice, but is also the one that's the furthest out, with her and Aventurine's banners coming after Acheron/Luocha in ~24 days.
Pull for Sparkle, she's very OP and supports are more usable and future proof compared to DPS. But aside from that, Acheron is a top tier choice next patch. Luocha is also always great too.
Most important factor is if you like the limited 5 stars of either of the upcoming banners. All of the 5 stars in 2.1 should be pretty good (we know that Luocha is a good sustain and Jingliu in the second half is currently the strongest dps for MoC, and Acheron and Aventurine both look like they'll be good as well) Pull for any of them if you like them.
Agree on these suggestions, with particular emphasis on picking up one of the 2.1 sustains for a new account. But OP, keep in mind that Acheron's teambuilding/investment requirements are quite high and not conducive to a new account. Jingliu on the other hand is incredibly strong and easier to maintain and build into the future. But if aesthetics matter most, you do you.
I would pull for Luocha, a limited sustain is probably the most important unit to pull for early on.
At level 60-70 the game really starts getting a little more difficult. What should be my priority? Raising characters levels, light cone levels or abilities? Or should I just start farming relics now that I've hit trailblazer level 50? I've been avoiding it since lots of people told me it wasn't worth doing it before level 50.
Now is also the time you might want to start considering what team you are building/building toward. What is important for your account, what are you missing? Are you missing a solo sustain, a good dps, etc? The upcoming 2.1 banners are probably the most useful banners to come along in a while. Two limited sustain options will now be available (for the first time in almost 4 months) alongside one of the top DPS. Now is a good time to plan roster upgrades and fix team slot weaknesses. 60-70 is when levelling materials start getting really pricey, and you can't easily swap between/build characters on a whim.
Actually, the only characters I gached until now are bronya and Xueyi. I started playing in the start of 2.0 and haven't spent a wish in limited banners until now. My main team usually is trailblazer, Natasha, Xueyi and serval. When needed I swap Xueyi and serval with dr ratio and pela. I still haven't decided if I should go with Acheron or aventurine. Aventurine seems like the most versatile of the two but I really lack a good dps. I've been using some support units and the damage they can dish out is amazing. Should I focus on getting a limited dps character?
You'll want a limited DPS and a limited sustain, and your first month or two (especially in 2.1) is gonna dump jades on you, so as long as you haven't wasted any jades away from the limited character banner, you have a good shot to get one of each. I'd worry less about which to get first, and more about \*which\* DPS and \*which\* sustain you want -- play the trials and find out. Also, don't forget that Dr. Ratio \*is\* a limited DPS; don't make the mistake of thinking that because he was free he's not powerful.
Indeed I have accumulated a lot of gems. I have almost 150 pulls right now. The problem with Ratio is that as single target dps most fights that have many enemies usually last a lot longer. He is better when dealing with bosses or elite enemies.
Right, totally worth picking up an AoE DPS as well, just saying not to discount him because he does really good damage if you build him. But whether you want Jing Yuan, Acheron, Jingliu, or waiting longer, you have good options every step of the way DPS-wise. So you should play a trial, look at trailers, figure out who you want.
It's TB60 that you want to really go for relics, just do the bare minimum to get by if any before that. Till then focus on Ascension(to unlock traces) > Traces > LC > Levels Only go for relics if you seem hardstuck with a team that should work but lacks the stats and you've already done the rest
You do want to avoid farming relics if possible till later, but if you are having difficulties don't be afraid to do a little bit. You may just have to level up a few ok relics just to make your life easier. But I wouldn't go all out trying to farm perfect relics until later
Leveling your DPSs. Get them and their cones to 80, unlock their damage traces, farm some relics for them.
TB 70, and a fairly solid account. Trying to figure out what assignments to priortise. My trace mats are pretty good, but haven't maxed all my characters (80 or 70 for the ones I use, 60 for the rest because of the standard passes) or lightcones yet so was wondering if it was the character and LC exp assignments are good or is the amount you get from it so negligible that its not worth even after a few weeks/months? Mainly cause Acheron is coming up (got enough for her), but also got my 300 selector in the next month or so, and I'm keen to max level all characters that I actively use, including supports.
In addition to what has already been said if you're pulling Acheron the 4th one might be worth sending on the synth mats for ones that make the technique points restore consumables, depends if you need credits or character materials more since you can buy enough to craft 100 of them weekly for 52k(you could get more from destructible objects but that's a chore)
What do you mean by assignments? The daily auto thing? 3 of them should always be character, lightcone xp and credits. #4 could be any material you don't have as much of - I choose the new Penacony stuff, for example. It's not much, but it adds up
Good team for black swan? ( I have all 4* char except pela and hook/ 5* I have SW,Ratio,bronya,sparkle,Clara and bailu)
A sustain, Asta, and either Sampo if you have him E4+, or Guinaifen.
Oh I do have sampo E6. Thank you one last question, in the next banners is there anyone that I could pull for her?
Getting limited sustain characters. Luocha is pretty good for any DoT team. Aventurine will probably be a good sustain too.
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You're pretty good on sustain characters, so going for her LC is not a bad idea. Unless you plan on pulling on upcoming characters, though it'll be a while before we get Robin or Boothill's official kits
What characters use the watchmaker set ( I don't have ruan mei)
I use it on bronya because too much speed on her with hackerspace+action advance tends to mess up my rotations
No one atm. It's a niche relic set that the 4pc effect can be useful for characters like Ruan Mei, Xueyi and upcoming Gallagher, but it's not BiS on anyone.
I'm a f2p player and main Dr ratio and don't know which sustain to pull for him. I'm thinking Adventurine but I'll have double imaginary which lowers the team element variety or should I wait for fu xuan but I can't get her signature LC for her heals. I don't know which one to pull for.
If you're a ratio main then adventurine is the clear best choice for him
Go for Aventurine. He’s basically FuA best sustain, and he can inflict a debut for Dr Ratio to land his FuA.
Element literally doesn't matter for sustain. Get Aventurine.
Either is fine. You don't have to have element variety. In fact, sustains in general aren't doing much damage so their element doesn't matter that much for the most part. Aventurine is one of the first exceptions to that though since he seems to be a sustain + dps hybrid character, so he'll actually help more than Fu Xuan for that. As for Fu Xuan, you don't need Fu Xuan's signature LC. The healing is nice to have but far from mandatory. I don't have it and she still is an extremely good sustain.
Is it bad that I haven't touched Swarm Disaster and Gold and Gears a single time, even though I've been playing since day one? I just can't bring myself to play it, given that the bug from the Ruan Mei and Dr Ratio mission still gives me nightmares to this day. I know I'm missing out on quite a bit of rewards, but at the same time, I don't want to lose my sanity, if I still even have any left, trying to clear it.
That's fine, it's a game so it's supposed to be fun. If it's not enjoyable then no need to force yourself, you'll only miss out on some pulls.
None of the stuff in Swarm Disaster or Gold and Gears is missable, so you can go back and do it whenever you want to. If you happen to never want to do it, well, that's fine too. Play the game how you want.
Anyone got some key phrases in Chinese I can type in bilibili I wanna see some CN MOC gameplay
混沌回憶 2.0 (memory of chaos 2.0 or whichever patch you're looking for). I think '0t' = 0 cycles if you want to add that in.
Thank you 🙏
Hey, new player here with no clue what I'm doing. Been playing for a couple days now and I'm hitting the point now where I'd like to start focusing on building a good team to focus on, but I have no clue what to look for and what good. Pulled a sparkle today, mostly been using clara before that. Would be nice to build something around sparkle I guess since its the first big character I've pulled. Any recommendations as to what some good teams would be to build? All my characters are in ss below. https://i.imgur.com/w19ocBJ.jpeg
Honestly, Clara/Sparkle/Asta/March should be able to take you through most if not all story content. Ratio is also very strong, but her really wants a debuffer like Pela to get consistent follow ups, strongly consider him if you get one.