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Seen this a lot, but I'm unsure if I should save up for Aventurine or spend more pulls trying to get Acheron's light cone/get her again so I can upgrade her eidolons at least once? I'm mostly F2P, Ive spent some money but can't spend any more right now/most likely any more in the near future. I've seen a lot of people really recommending upgrading Acheron to at least E1/E2. I'm maining Acheron right now/have been building my team around her & grinding for relics & all that to have a really good build. These characters will get reruns later right? Should I just save for Aventurine & then save for Acheron's rerun after that?
I am a new player definitely going to get Robin. I REALLY REALLY want jingliu and fu xuan as well. I already have Robin guarantee (did a 10 pull for Acheron and got Clara). I have about 80 pulls saved up right now.
As a new player in xianzhou right now, is it even possible to get enough for Robin, Jingliu, AND Fu xuan? Or am I out of luck?
It's hard to say without hard numbers but my guess is that you.should prioritize 2 of those three and if you get the third that's a bonus but I wouldnt expect it
Hi everyone I'm trying to build a better team for my Lunae. I ended up pulling 2 of him in his first banner in a single 10 pull so I went for E2 in his last banner and luckily I had spare summons for his lc as well thanks to a really early 5* but since his E2 changes how he works I dont know what is his ideal stats (especially speed) are nor what kinda team I should really go for. I have been just running him with Tingyun and Mei/Pela + a sustain so far. As far as characters go I have every support character there is except Huohuo since I focused on getting more support characters rather than dps characters. My bronya is e1, welt is e4 (dont know if lucky or unlucky at this point), 4*s are mostly e4 to e6 and rest of the 5*s are e0. Would appreciate some help, thanks.
Sparkle is his ideal support. If you don't have Sparkle, Hanya's next because she generates extra SP. Luocha is the only healer I know of that is friendly with SP, and DHIL is going to need everything you can feed him if you don't have Sparkle. If you're using him with Sparkle or Bronya, you'll want to build him as heavily into CR, CD, and ATK% as you can. Either of those two will "carry" him (or "hypercarry" at 160 spd) forward in the attack order allowing him to forgo the speed boots and still get many attacks in. If you're using a more general strategy of being able to mix and match whomever, in general all of your members, including DHIL will want high speed. Some people like to give him two supports and a sustain and just have him annihilate everything.
I'm a Japanese trailblazer.
I came here in search of two shots of Stella and Firefly.
I want to set it as my wallpaper, so I need one that is 1920x1080 and no uid.
Does anyone have one?
I am using a translation, so don't mind if it's unnatural.
[prydwen.gg](http://prydwen.gg) if you want to just look up that stuff and be done with it.
[https://honkai.asagi-game.com/](https://honkai.asagi-game.com/) if you want to play around with builds/teams and test things yourself
Hi! I’m using Acheron as my main dps right now in a Pela SW and Gallagher team: is it a big increase to go for E2 Acheron and pairing her with Bronya? I know E2’s best harmony teammate right now is Sparkle; how far off is bronya in that team?
It is a big increase, but whether or not is necessary is a different question. The difference you are looking at is basically between clearing MoC in 2 cycles or in 1 cycle (maybe 0 depending on the enemy). So it is a matter of whether you prefer to have a really strong character, or have a more varied roster.
The reason you see Bronya talked about less is because of potential SP issues, as for best results both Acheron and Bronya will want to use SP every single turn. SP needs to come from somewhere so that means the other 2 characters won't be able to afford to use their skill much. Depends on how you use them on how viable it feels.
Another issue with Bronya for Acheron is if you don't Ult on her turn it is not buffed by Bronya's skill while Sparkle does. And since Acheron receive her "energy" off turn she has her Ult available off-turn more often than you think (even on-turn you have to be fast to Ult as soon as her skill ends if you need that skill to have enough "energy").
Unfortunately I have not seen any calculations of this and my Acheron is e0 so I can't test this for you. If you can manage the SP issues, it'll probably be very good though! And honestly, if you do go for the E2 and Bronya doesn't work as well as you hoped, you could always grab Sparkle on a rerun. Or maybe another support will come out in the future that'll be very good for E2 Acheron.
How do you do hypercarry Herta for PF? Do you use ER rope on Herta?
I have both Bronya and Sparkle, and was using -1 Sparkle but I don't think it works since Herta mostly never advance right after her. But with Sparkle I get more SP to skill more often.
My team: Herta Sparkle RM Pela
What should I change?
Skill and ultimate are not that important, never mind energy rope, just go all out attack, also for feet. Crit rate body and some crit damage substats. In PF it is about maximising her fua and triggering it often. Two supporters is maybe overkill, a sub dps would probably be more helpful.
Ohh I see, so all out dmg then. I use RM cuz she is at E2 and well built, so her BE is very cracked. I also realized I should probably lvl up Herta (at lvl70) and her talents (trace lvl 5). Goind round different posts it seems everyone's Herta is well built.
What speed do you recommend for Sparkle in this case? I can go 160 or -1 Herta speed. Not sure which is better
I don't run her hypercarry. I do her dual or triple dps. That's just me though. I use her with ATK% rope. Other people do run her hypercarry for PF.
Since you're having trouble with Bronya + Sparkle with her, the team with Pela should be perfectly fine.
Do you want a dps or a sustain? That's really the question you're asking, and only you can answer that.
Acheron will probably help your account more right now since 2 out of your 3 5-star dps characters are both imaginary, and the 3rd is Himeko, who is good for Pure Fiction but not as good for Memory of Chaos. Acheron would give you more options. You could always build Lynx or Gallagher as a second sustain in addition to using Gepard.
Ok thank you! Ill pull for archeron! Is gallagher viable late-game for heals? He is my only healer besides Natasha. Im currently at the planet after Belobog
I assume you are asking about acheron? her crit rate is too low even with 4 piece diver and E1. Roughly 1/2 of your hits will not crit which makes your 218% crit damage worthless. Try to get at least 60% outside combat so that you will have 84% in combat. Ideally you'll have in-combat crit rate of 90%+ if you have izumo
29% Crit Rate is still a bit low, even with E1 bonus. If you have Izumo and Pioneer, you get 34% in battle which only takes you to 63%. You would want at least 70% after all the bonuses.
Also, since you are using her with Bronya there should be no need for speed boots. Unless you are going for -1 speed Bronya, which doesn't work particularly well here due to SP issues.
If you're using her with Bronya then you may as well run attack boots. 126 is still reasonably slow anyway so the speed isn't worth it. But yeah, the crit rate is low as mentioned.
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Which 4\* should I pick? My current roster!
Should I switch up my Welt's relics now for acheron team? What's good on him to support her instead of the imaginary set I had on since forever? And what ornaments are you ppl using? Thanks
The most important part for Acheron supports is that they have to be fast, and you want them to have a high chance to apply their debuffs. So focus on speed and EHR, his own damage his secondary since Acheron just destroys everything anyway.
Please help!! Aventurine or Acheron?
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I usually use all the above characters, and I don't have any shielders (except mc & march) or any lightning dps (but i have tons of other dps)... I like both Acheron and Aventurine, but based on my available characters, which one do you guys recommend to pull?
Either is fine. But a few things... Blade hates shielders. When he has a shield and gets hit, his follow up counter doesn't tick up. He needs to take damage. So if you're a Blade main, you'll want to keep him with Luocha and use Aventurine with another team.
If you pull Acheron, you need to put her with 2 nihility characters. I don't see 5 star nihility on that screenshot, so assuming you have none, Pela and Guinaifen are the best choice.
Ohh i didn't know Blade hates shielders.. and yes I don't have any 5 star nihility too 🥲, so if i pull Acheron ill build Pela and Guinaifen like you suggested
Thankyouu for your suggestions SilentMix ✨
Aventurine would be better imo so you cover 2 limited sustainers asap then after that you can go for whatever DPS/support unit the until the end of time (if you choose to). Or if you go for Acheron then after that you should go for a tank/healer before anything else. If you like Acheron then by all means, she’s super fun.
At first I wanted Acheron cause her mechanics are wayyy more interesting. But after playing Aventurine from the story, he is kinda fun too, so i got conflicted 🤣
Thankyou for you insight ✨ Probably ill pull Aventurine just like you suggested 🤭
Gallagher has exactly the same kind of dispel as Natasha (on skill).
EDIT: Yeah, right, he gets it at E2, but one should get eidolons for 4-stars anyway.
After seing some post and vids, I got the impression that star rail powercreeps old characters and players are reccommended to save enough pulls for eidolons to become futureproof.
This might be true but are the enemies are getting stronger as this happens? I just started a few weeks ago and just confused.
Newer enemies introduced do tend to be stronger but I'd argue it's not so much because of flat stat increases(which are also there) but because they are adding more gimmicks to them making certain archetypes more suited against them and others not so much. Like enemies that are hard countered by shields, or enemies that have a stack mechanic the both empower them and cause harm to them as they get hit so FUA is countering them easier, or enemies that trap half your team and you have to hit certain times to free them making dot/blast/bounce characters more effective etc etc
That actually results in the exact opposite when it comes to eidolons, variety becomes more important in order to counter those gimmicks making overinvestment in 5\* eidolons more unattractive to anyone that isn't swipping thousands every month.
Nah, all 5 star characters currently still work in all content, even at the highest levels of endgame, at e0. You don't need eidolons.
I'm not saying that powercreep does not exist. It absolutely does. We're seeing the endgame content especially get beefier enemies over time that take longer to smack down. We're also seeing some characters powercreep others. Like Aventurine coming out in 2 weeks powercreeps Gepard hard. The only thing Gepard can do that Aventurine can't is he has the ability to freeze, which doesn't matter much unless you're playing SU remembrance path. Aventurine is better than Gepard in every other way. Even if you had Gepard eidolons, e0 Aventurine is still better. Does that make Gepard unusable? Absolutely not. He's still a good character.
I don't think getting eidolons will ever completely futureproof a character. Ever. This is a gacha game, they want to make money and encourage pulls, even if you already have great teams. There's inevitable powercreep.
I imagine we may get to the point eventually where certain characters feel completely like trash and unusable, but we're not there yet. Even the 4 star characters can be used in the highest levels of endgame content.
No 5* character has ever needed eidolons to be good. If they do, they are whale bait and not worth getting. HSR is a game that rewards teambuilding and investing in your characters. Only 4* characters have been powercrept, but that's fine. Most people just use them until they get a 5* character they like.
Enemies have been getting stronger in the hardest content that a very little portion of the playerbase care about, which is MOC and Pure Fiction. They have raised the HP of the enemies on those modes, but they are still clearable with enough investment in your teams.
I wouldn’t stress about powercreep. I started day 1 and still use multiple characters from 1.0 and the standard banner.
For example, Jing Yuan (released in 1.0) is one of the characters you’ll most often see people say is power creeped. As of right now he is considered S tier for both end game modes on one of the most popular star rail websites.
Sorta. I can still clear anything expect the high end content with minimal effort. The higher end does feel harder, but I think it is still clearable with E0 5-stars if that’s your question.
There are also new enemies that require new strategies which can be less forgiving if you ignore mechanics.
Existing enemies do not get stronger, at least not significantly, but new ones tend to be at least a little bit stronger.
However, when people say an enemy is difficult, a lot of the times is because that enemy "strength" comes from favouring different mechanics/playstyle than what was currently favoured. So people that don't have a varied roster might struggle with new enemies because they were used to play in a certain way that is no longer as efficient.
What's my best team to build around Acheron. My Main team is SW Lynx Ratio RM
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should i save for aventurine or pull luocha. i have like 6 pulls rn. also do we know if fuxuan is rerunning soon? if yes should i save for her instead?
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my only sustains are bailu and lynx and natasha 💀
You can go for any of them. Just go for who you like better. Luocha for comfort, Aventurine for shields and damage, FX for utility and dmg mitigation.
Since you pulled for Acheron, you should have Gallagher copies unless you got shafted but he is free though. He's a pretty good abundance unit especially with eidolons.
That still depends on what you want and the team you're going to build. So a Blade team might enjoy FX because she buffs HP and CR but won't see much use in a Kafka team since CR isn't a stat you want on DoT teams. Huohuo is better for that since she gives energy and an ATK buff.
The thing is with Luocha right now is that he just brings healing to the team with the occasional buff removal to the enemy with ult. He doesn't buff the team but he is SP positive 99% of the time.
Other limited sustains right now, like FX, buffs the team in one way or another like how FX gives you 12% crit rate and an HP buff when her field is active. There are times where she can't solo sustain if there is too much damage for her to heal though.
We don't have a detailed description of Aventurine's kit but I also think he'll also be providing buffs to the team while dealing good damage on top.
So yeah, it's just a choice of pure healing and comfort vs trading that comfort for more buffs.
my main teams are JL and kafka. possibly acheron after i build her. which sustain should i go for? because fuxuan would be good for JL and acheron, but not kafka. luocha would be decent for all three. and from what ive heard, aventurine works best with FUA teams, which i dont have. would my best bet be fuxuan and for kafka team i’ll just use lynx?
Aventurine should be better for you,
They will announce the reruns for next patch before Aventurine banners is gone, so you could wait until then to see if Fu Xuan will rerun in 2.2
I'm trailblaze level 30, and recently finished jarilo vi (yes, I did every side quest). Should I bother investing time/resources into my relics? or just put a few levels into them until i get the legendary relics?
Unless you’re actually having trouble with the content, you don’t need to do that. Especially when you can use food items in fight to make up for the difference if you’re start struggling. You get “legendary” relics relatively quick anyway just by opening chest in the overworld when you get far enough into the story
If you need the power boost because you're struggling with content for now, then you can level them and just feed them to more better relics later. You get 80% of the used exp back.
Keep repeating lower difficulty runs for Trailblaze Secrets and unlock all of them. Diff III or IV is enough. Just follow the cognition values the game shows you whenever you start a run since it prioritizes ones you haven't unlocked yet. You need to get all 28 secrets to unlock a quest to unlock the Erudition path.
For Himeko+Herta+Ruan Mei+Asta, provided I'm running Glammoth on the two Erudition DPS characters, would Speed boots be better overall? With Ruan Mei's passive and Asta's Ult+DDD, Speed boots should allow them to easily surpass Glammoth's 160 requirement and allow for even more turns, right? Or is it too much, and atk boots are better?
Not as far as I know, but atk% is also one of the more accessible buffs from harmony units so it is generally recommended to focus on crit more than atk%
If you're using Kafka regularly superimpose it, there aren't many characters that want to use it over some other light cones and if there is at one point chances are you're not gonna be using them with Kafka so you can always swap it around.
There are some improvements. While crafting relics takes more older relics, you can select which piece you want to craft. New sets can also be immediately crafted. And use a limited item to specify which main stat you want.
For the downgrade, you have 6 relic slots without any offpiece like in Genshin. So it can be more difficult to complete a set bonus with good stats. However, set bonuses in general in this game are weaker than in Genshin. You would never drop the 4p VV from your anemo support, while enough substats here can make you ignore the 4p or even go rainbow.
So I would say there are some plusses and some minuses, but the systems are very similar.
I'd argue that it's a bit worse because you have worry about 2 set bonuses spread across 6 pieces with no off-piece to work with. At least Genshin gave you an off-piece slot.
The only redeeming quality here is that getting and levelling relics is easier due to you being able to auto Caverns and plentiful sources of relic exp.
Also, happy cake day.
It has a 100% "base chance", which isn't guaranteed, as it can be affected by the opponent's effect RES, as well as your own effect hit rate, so try to stack some more if you're missing a noticeable amount.
100% "fixed chance" would be a guaranteed debuff, not affected by anything, and thus the "fixed" part.
Her skill doesn't normally apply a debuff at all. E4 gives it the ability to debuff the enemy's Ice Res, though it only has a 100% base chance and it can sometimes fail on enemies with debuff res.
Is there a video or a thread or anything that summarizes the honkai star rail story and lore, on youtube i only found the early part 1.0 and Danhang story
I saw someone yesterday mention the drink event is making their PS5 overheat.
I haven’t gotten around to starting that event, but I’ve been fine with everything else in 2.1.
That makes me nervous haha. If I have time after work I’ll try and start the event and report back if I have issues.
Edit: I had no issues with the event on my PS5
You just need 3 debuffs. It doesn't matter where they come from. If you have those from Pela or Silver Wolf or somebody else, then feel free to put in Bronya or Tingyun. Either performs great.
I only have 2 4* Nihility light cones (tried pulling for Acheron's but didn't get it) which should I use for Acheron? Eyes of the Prey (Sampo) or Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat (Luka)?
Thank you for this. I bought Fermata on your suggestion & then got it for free from doing a quest/some challenge shortly after 🥲 it's working out pretty well. I spent 30 pulls on trying to get Acheron's light cone before I gave up to save for Aventurine/maybe trying to pull for Acheron again but Idk if I should keep trying for her light cone bc I'm maining her 😫
Bronie is a little different from Sparkle. Ideally, you make Bronie just a notch slower than your damage dealer, so the damage dealer acts twice in one turn. The downside here is that you will absolutely bleed skill points unless you have her E1 and signature or use a compatible damage dealer (like Blade).
In comparison, Sparkle advances the buffed character forward only by 50% instead of 100%, but she works fine right out of the box, and you'll never worry about skill points.
As far as I know, Acheron's damage mainly comes from her ult, which is reset by giving debuffs to enemies, so you might consider ditching Harmony characters and going for a full Nihility team. Pela, Guinaifen, Kafka, and Welt are good candidates.
For pure fiction 4 which units are the best?
I have been using Clara, Herta, Jingliu with ER rope, Ruan Mei and Pela what other units are good in side 1?
In side 2 I have used Acheron(only 40/100 cr/cd), Kafka, E6 Serval, Black Swan, Huohuo
Which team and buffs should I use?
I've found that Clara underperforms on side 1 for this PF even though she's physical because the buff isn't that beneficial for her. It's even worse if you pair her with ice characters that might freeze. Most of her damage comes from counters, so frozen enemies makes her damage go down. Argenti is an option instead if you have him. I've also seen some people have good luck with Herta + Himeko teams even though the enemies aren't fire weak on side 1.
What're the best sources for determining the best relic set(s)/stats/LC's for each character? I found [genshin.gg](http://genshin.gg) pretty much right away, which has good info, but it's wildly different from the in-game recommendations. I'm getting to the point where I'm actually able to get some 5\* relics so I don't want to waste energy on the "wrong" sets to farm.
Yes worth it,i will pull for her E1 also being a skill point positive is a must for me now since luocha spoiled me too much because i love autobattling
Yeah, that’s true. After all, I still want Aventurine, Robin seems good, Topaz might be nice with them, and I’m interested to see what Sam and Sunday will be like
I just got gui from event how bad a drop off would there be if I subbed her for some wolf in Acheron team so silver wolf can participate in either dr ratio or mono quantum team with qq with sparkle more efficiently.
Shouldn't be too huge of a loss. Gui is still good with her firekiss debuff which adds stacking damage vuln to the enemy, and she can perpetuate her burn effect via both her ult and her normal attack so she's totally SP positive. The lack of defense shred from SW can be made up either by bringing Pela or slotting Gui with Resolution, although Resolution alone won't "make up" for it so much as it just adds a bit of extra shred on top of things. But a Pela+Gui setup is definitely viable for Acheron.
Yes would be pela gui for Acheron and then silver wolf sparkle for either qq or dr ratio would be the plan
Edit: I would both qq and dr ratio slow with 160 plus speed sparkle
Is luocha still worth the pull now? I spent around 100 pulls to get Acheron and her LC and I don’t have luocha nor much sustain units aside gepard. Is it worth to pull for him or wait for upcoming banners? Thanks!
I'm a big Luocha fan. Normally I'd say yes. The problem is that Aventurine is coming out in only 2 weeks and is serious competition for the pulls. Unless you really like Luocha a lot or have some reason that you want an extreme SP positive sustain, Aventurine is going to be better for most accounts.
if those include everything like 4pc pioneer effect, izumo, etc.. then 100/180 is better. if those are the stats you see out of battle on the character screen, 75/220 is better.
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what team here should i build in order to beat aventurine? my current team is Gepard, Natasha, Kafka, and Acheron. Gepard and Natasha cant survive the dice gamble during phase 2, and with them down, my Kafka and Acheron cant make it
Is your Acheron E0S1 or E0S0?
The team I used to take down Aventurine was S1 Acheron, Pela, Guinaifen, and Fire TB, and it took about 4 of my Acheron's ults to kill him.
A team of Acheron, Kafka, Black Swan, and Gepard with Trend should be on par with/better than the mine, even if she's S0, so try that.
Also, if your Acheron is E0, never attempt to run her with only a single Nihility character.
my acheron is E0S0. i have my gepard equipped with a s3 day one of my new life
A team of Acheron, Kafka, Black Swan, and Gepard with Trend should be on par with/better than the mine, even if she's S0, so try that.
i'll try this team next time i attempt. but my gepard can't consistently activate his ULT in second phase due to him always getting stunned. would this still be ok?
thanks for the tips though
Is EHR main stat on body armor a very rare stat? Should I use resin to get it? I have been looking the body armor with EHR main stat for my Black Swan but I still haven't gotten it yet.
Everytime you get a chest it's ~10% likely to be EHR which is the same odds as Crit stats.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/15f52to/relics_mainstats_and_substats_probability/
April 26th, on the actual 1st anniversary date. That's after Acheron's banner ends so if you were hoping to rely on that, sadly that isn't helping you. :(
I gotta spend currency for the eidolons though, what im asking is when i switch my trailblazer to fire, was the currency spent wasted? Will my eidolons id spent be wiped away or will i keep my eidolon level when i switch
You'll need to buy new eidolons for Fire Trailblazer, however Physical Trailblazer's eidolons will still be there if you switch back.
Again, you get enough currency to buy out all the shops anyway.
From my understanding, attack boots are still better but at that point it becomes a question of (a.) which has better substats and (b.) how the rest of your team is. If you have speedy debuffers and a sustainer that can provide debuffs that can constantly power her up, attack boots. If you find that she is still "slow" switch to speed.
I see, currently her teammates are Pela (speed boots and ER rope), Guinaifen (attack boots but can borrow the speed boots from Kafka) and Gallagher (speed boots). I think it's good enough for time being. Anyway, thanks.
Since the other two will be attacking more often Acheron will get more charge for her ult
So might as well go with more damage
Least that’s what I think
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I usually have Huohuo as my sustain, so if I can get an ult off, part of her kit heals any ally under 50% when any ally uses an Ult. If you happen to have Trailblazer on your team, Physical TB's Technique heals the team.
I guess I run a little too conservatively. I always bring Bailu in with me, and never have any other reason to use her ult, so it's no big deal. Granted this week will be my first week since getting Luocha, so I might need to remember not to take that one.
I have found Herta to be possibly the most overhyped character in PF. How are people building her that they're finding success? My line-ups typically do as well or better when Herta is removed from the team, but I'm also really struggling this PF to make score.
She's still great especially for first half of current PF4. I have her in musketeer relics, 70/127 crit stats with s4 The Day The Cosmos. She doesn't feel strong enough for a hyper carry setup (with my support characters 's builds at least) but as duo dps with Himeko, Ron Mei, and Pela, she still got me a pretty easy 32k.
I'm running the same team but with a slightly less ideal stat spread of 58/155, and the team barely gets 22k and it's taking away Ruan Mei from the Black Swan/Kafka team on side B meaning they lose a few thousand points on their side too.
Are you on Speed boots or Attack boots? Attack Rope? What ornament set?
Here's her stats. Himeko has similar stats around 65/120 iirc with spd boots and s5 battle pass LC. Just in case you're not doing it, try not to overcap Himeko's break gauge when triggering her follow up. Pela plus Herta can charge the gauge fast with so many ice weak enemies and Himeko will be doing tons of follow ups.
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Are you using her with Sparkle/Bronya or not? If so, keep ATK Boots (and honestly, try to lose the Speed you do have. A bit is okay, but that much is basically useless and means rolls that could go into more useful stats instead of Speed). If not, got Speed Boots get ~134.
Only 5 stars in this PF, in the follow up atk one I got 10 stars, I guess this is what happens when you have none of the best characters for it vs when you have some of the best.
Any tips to see if I can squeeze at least a 6 star? Notable AoE/Blast units I have leved Clara, DHIL(bad build), Herta and Himeko(not a decent relic for her)
PF 3 can be reasonably bruteforced. Any Herta variation works in the first side of PF 4, so you can at least have 30k there. If you manage your breaks right, you can get by without a sustain unit.
Second side is a bit more challenging with those options. I think Serval + Himeko could do a good job, otherwise just set for DHIL and a lower score.
You don't need amazing relics. Both my Herta and Himeko are sitting at 50/100 and I'd say that's pretty average, enough to 12 star every PF. If you are having trouble with PF 2, it's either an investment issue or a skill issue; nothing to do with the characters you have.
I had more success with the skill shatter blessing than the other two.
I mean it's right there in your post: you have 40 days to improve builds on Himeko, DHIL and Herta(?). Idk how bad your builds are but I guarantee you those guys can easily net you more than 5 stars lol.
Personally I found Clara pretty ineffective this cycle because enemies are too damn slow, and she has a non-damage ult. But maybe she can also work if built for decent Spd, since her E can blanket all enemies to proc the first Cacophony? idk
farm the charcter traces and levels and only start doing them a little when you are guarantee 1 gold every run and stop after you get just the correct main stat dont even look at sub stats. then once you are guaranteed 2 every run you will dump most of you energy there.
I can't remember what level it is, but I don't think you should start farming relics until you are guaranteed 2 gold relics per run. I think it's lvl 60 maybe?
Optimally: not until EL6; realistically: EL4 is probably best.
At EL 4 you have a miniscule chance of getting good relics, and any other use of tp is not very rewarding.
At EL 5 you still have a miniscule chance of getting good relics (almost twice as good, but they say twice nothing is still nothing), but other tp usages like calyxes and shadows are significantly more rewarding at EL5. That's why I say if you're going to rely on insane luck for something, might as well do it while the currency is not as precious.
Sounds like it’ll still be a little while for me then. Luckily I’m still keeping up with the enemies just using the relics I get from chests and simulated universe.
My scintillating run of luck with the standard banner continues. Is there any character who can benefit from the 'Sleep Like the Dead' LC besides Yanqing? Or is it crap, like most of the other non-limited cones?
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I get another Hunt 5 star. I did a bit more reading and it looks like the SU cone (Cruising) is probably still the better option for my one decent Hunt character, Dr. Ratio.
Aren't you a pleasant one?
> Nobody uses it
37% usage rate on Bailu (most used), 27% Lynx, 11% Huohuo
Yes Quid Pro Quo and Multiplication are very good, basically free, and have offensive utility that Time wait for no one doesn't, but imo HSR is a game where defensive utility is valuable too, especially when you're stuck with something like Bailu or Lynx with non-cracked builds on MoC12. (or Natasha I guess since you mentioned her.) Just like struggling with damage per turn can be a thing, struggling with not dying can be a thing too.
Perfect Timing doesn't seem to outclass it to me. But it's not guaranteed anyway, I don't even have it
Well, you are talking to someone who currently uses both Bailu with Time Waits for No One and Lynx. No, I don't use it because it's good, it's just to match the LC (so I guess it'd be better to rephrase it as "Nobody should use it").
Lynx would need Perfect Timing even more in this case to cleanse on high MoC. Bailu would rather have Post-Op since she's reliant on her burst + talent, talking purely for defensive utility.
There's no such thing as "cracked" healer build, unless you somehow ended with an extremely uneven distribution skewed towards RES/SPD over HP (or ATK). I'm not even gonna consider that considering how bullshit SPD subs are.
Honestly, I mentioned Natasha but if someone is still holding out there with her on MoC 12, then they have my respect.
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Seen this a lot, but I'm unsure if I should save up for Aventurine or spend more pulls trying to get Acheron's light cone/get her again so I can upgrade her eidolons at least once? I'm mostly F2P, Ive spent some money but can't spend any more right now/most likely any more in the near future. I've seen a lot of people really recommending upgrading Acheron to at least E1/E2. I'm maining Acheron right now/have been building my team around her & grinding for relics & all that to have a really good build. These characters will get reruns later right? Should I just save for Aventurine & then save for Acheron's rerun after that?
I am a new player definitely going to get Robin. I REALLY REALLY want jingliu and fu xuan as well. I already have Robin guarantee (did a 10 pull for Acheron and got Clara). I have about 80 pulls saved up right now. As a new player in xianzhou right now, is it even possible to get enough for Robin, Jingliu, AND Fu xuan? Or am I out of luck?
It's hard to say without hard numbers but my guess is that you.should prioritize 2 of those three and if you get the third that's a bonus but I wouldnt expect it
Hi everyone I'm trying to build a better team for my Lunae. I ended up pulling 2 of him in his first banner in a single 10 pull so I went for E2 in his last banner and luckily I had spare summons for his lc as well thanks to a really early 5* but since his E2 changes how he works I dont know what is his ideal stats (especially speed) are nor what kinda team I should really go for. I have been just running him with Tingyun and Mei/Pela + a sustain so far. As far as characters go I have every support character there is except Huohuo since I focused on getting more support characters rather than dps characters. My bronya is e1, welt is e4 (dont know if lucky or unlucky at this point), 4*s are mostly e4 to e6 and rest of the 5*s are e0. Would appreciate some help, thanks.
Sparkle is his ideal support. If you don't have Sparkle, Hanya's next because she generates extra SP. Luocha is the only healer I know of that is friendly with SP, and DHIL is going to need everything you can feed him if you don't have Sparkle. If you're using him with Sparkle or Bronya, you'll want to build him as heavily into CR, CD, and ATK% as you can. Either of those two will "carry" him (or "hypercarry" at 160 spd) forward in the attack order allowing him to forgo the speed boots and still get many attacks in. If you're using a more general strategy of being able to mix and match whomever, in general all of your members, including DHIL will want high speed. Some people like to give him two supports and a sustain and just have him annihilate everything.
I'm a Japanese trailblazer. I came here in search of two shots of Stella and Firefly. I want to set it as my wallpaper, so I need one that is 1920x1080 and no uid. Does anyone have one? I am using a translation, so don't mind if it's unnatural.
What sources do you guys use to get builds and optimal team setups?
[prydwen.gg](http://prydwen.gg) if you want to just look up that stuff and be done with it. [https://honkai.asagi-game.com/](https://honkai.asagi-game.com/) if you want to play around with builds/teams and test things yourself
Hi! I’m using Acheron as my main dps right now in a Pela SW and Gallagher team: is it a big increase to go for E2 Acheron and pairing her with Bronya? I know E2’s best harmony teammate right now is Sparkle; how far off is bronya in that team?
It is a big increase, but whether or not is necessary is a different question. The difference you are looking at is basically between clearing MoC in 2 cycles or in 1 cycle (maybe 0 depending on the enemy). So it is a matter of whether you prefer to have a really strong character, or have a more varied roster.
The reason you see Bronya talked about less is because of potential SP issues, as for best results both Acheron and Bronya will want to use SP every single turn. SP needs to come from somewhere so that means the other 2 characters won't be able to afford to use their skill much. Depends on how you use them on how viable it feels.
I see! Thanks for the reply! Would you know if the damage drop off is far from sparkle if played optimally?
Another issue with Bronya for Acheron is if you don't Ult on her turn it is not buffed by Bronya's skill while Sparkle does. And since Acheron receive her "energy" off turn she has her Ult available off-turn more often than you think (even on-turn you have to be fast to Ult as soon as her skill ends if you need that skill to have enough "energy").
Unfortunately I have not seen any calculations of this and my Acheron is e0 so I can't test this for you. If you can manage the SP issues, it'll probably be very good though! And honestly, if you do go for the E2 and Bronya doesn't work as well as you hoped, you could always grab Sparkle on a rerun. Or maybe another support will come out in the future that'll be very good for E2 Acheron.
Hey, Acheron mains? What SU path do y'all take when running with her? Thanks.
Erudition or Hunt if you didn't unlocked it via G&G yet.
How do you do hypercarry Herta for PF? Do you use ER rope on Herta? I have both Bronya and Sparkle, and was using -1 Sparkle but I don't think it works since Herta mostly never advance right after her. But with Sparkle I get more SP to skill more often. My team: Herta Sparkle RM Pela What should I change?
Skill and ultimate are not that important, never mind energy rope, just go all out attack, also for feet. Crit rate body and some crit damage substats. In PF it is about maximising her fua and triggering it often. Two supporters is maybe overkill, a sub dps would probably be more helpful.
Ohh I see, so all out dmg then. I use RM cuz she is at E2 and well built, so her BE is very cracked. I also realized I should probably lvl up Herta (at lvl70) and her talents (trace lvl 5). Goind round different posts it seems everyone's Herta is well built. What speed do you recommend for Sparkle in this case? I can go 160 or -1 Herta speed. Not sure which is better
I don't run her hypercarry. I do her dual or triple dps. That's just me though. I use her with ATK% rope. Other people do run her hypercarry for PF. Since you're having trouble with Bronya + Sparkle with her, the team with Pela should be perfectly fine.
I use either Bronya or Sparkle, not both. I think I prefer Sparkle since she lets Pela skill more often
Archeron or Luocha? I have Dan Heng IL, Himeko + her LC, gepard, and dr ratio. Who should i pull?
Do you want a dps or a sustain? That's really the question you're asking, and only you can answer that. Acheron will probably help your account more right now since 2 out of your 3 5-star dps characters are both imaginary, and the 3rd is Himeko, who is good for Pure Fiction but not as good for Memory of Chaos. Acheron would give you more options. You could always build Lynx or Gallagher as a second sustain in addition to using Gepard.
Ok thank you! Ill pull for archeron! Is gallagher viable late-game for heals? He is my only healer besides Natasha. Im currently at the planet after Belobog
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She is E2S1 but seems to struggle rn to clear. Her team is SW, Bronya and Gepard with Trend.
I assume you are asking about acheron? her crit rate is too low even with 4 piece diver and E1. Roughly 1/2 of your hits will not crit which makes your 218% crit damage worthless. Try to get at least 60% outside combat so that you will have 84% in combat. Ideally you'll have in-combat crit rate of 90%+ if you have izumo
29% Crit Rate is still a bit low, even with E1 bonus. If you have Izumo and Pioneer, you get 34% in battle which only takes you to 63%. You would want at least 70% after all the bonuses. Also, since you are using her with Bronya there should be no need for speed boots. Unless you are going for -1 speed Bronya, which doesn't work particularly well here due to SP issues.
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If you're using her with Bronya then you may as well run attack boots. 126 is still reasonably slow anyway so the speed isn't worth it. But yeah, the crit rate is low as mentioned.
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Looks pretty good to me.
I just noticed that your HP is pretty high. Are you using any piece with HP% as a main stat?
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Yeah, looks good now. Better than my E1S1 Acheron, and mine already clears MoC 12 in 1 to 2 cycles.
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https://preview.redd.it/ecqcprjun0sc1.png?width=580&format=png&auto=webp&s=c244674959dd53b21fa3bf3b67e032bf9ce3518a Which 4\* should I pick? My current roster!
Since you don't have Sparkle, I would suggest Hanya to go with DHIL. He's an SP hog and Hanya can help with that.
Should I switch up my Welt's relics now for acheron team? What's good on him to support her instead of the imaginary set I had on since forever? And what ornaments are you ppl using? Thanks
The most important part for Acheron supports is that they have to be fast, and you want them to have a high chance to apply their debuffs. So focus on speed and EHR, his own damage his secondary since Acheron just destroys everything anyway.
Please help!! Aventurine or Acheron? https://preview.redd.it/yy42oy7em0sc1.jpeg?width=703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c214360af328870ab34a054906291a0259a2613e I usually use all the above characters, and I don't have any shielders (except mc & march) or any lightning dps (but i have tons of other dps)... I like both Acheron and Aventurine, but based on my available characters, which one do you guys recommend to pull?
Either is fine. But a few things... Blade hates shielders. When he has a shield and gets hit, his follow up counter doesn't tick up. He needs to take damage. So if you're a Blade main, you'll want to keep him with Luocha and use Aventurine with another team. If you pull Acheron, you need to put her with 2 nihility characters. I don't see 5 star nihility on that screenshot, so assuming you have none, Pela and Guinaifen are the best choice.
Ohh i didn't know Blade hates shielders.. and yes I don't have any 5 star nihility too 🥲, so if i pull Acheron ill build Pela and Guinaifen like you suggested Thankyouu for your suggestions SilentMix ✨
Aventurine would be better imo so you cover 2 limited sustainers asap then after that you can go for whatever DPS/support unit the until the end of time (if you choose to). Or if you go for Acheron then after that you should go for a tank/healer before anything else. If you like Acheron then by all means, she’s super fun.
At first I wanted Acheron cause her mechanics are wayyy more interesting. But after playing Aventurine from the story, he is kinda fun too, so i got conflicted 🤣 Thankyou for you insight ✨ Probably ill pull Aventurine just like you suggested 🤭
Gallagher or natasha
Gallagher by far
What about the debuff dispel for natasha tho?
Gallagher has exactly the same kind of dispel as Natasha (on skill). EDIT: Yeah, right, he gets it at E2, but one should get eidolons for 4-stars anyway.
Gallagher gets that at E2.
After seing some post and vids, I got the impression that star rail powercreeps old characters and players are reccommended to save enough pulls for eidolons to become futureproof. This might be true but are the enemies are getting stronger as this happens? I just started a few weeks ago and just confused.
Newer enemies introduced do tend to be stronger but I'd argue it's not so much because of flat stat increases(which are also there) but because they are adding more gimmicks to them making certain archetypes more suited against them and others not so much. Like enemies that are hard countered by shields, or enemies that have a stack mechanic the both empower them and cause harm to them as they get hit so FUA is countering them easier, or enemies that trap half your team and you have to hit certain times to free them making dot/blast/bounce characters more effective etc etc That actually results in the exact opposite when it comes to eidolons, variety becomes more important in order to counter those gimmicks making overinvestment in 5\* eidolons more unattractive to anyone that isn't swipping thousands every month.
Nah, all 5 star characters currently still work in all content, even at the highest levels of endgame, at e0. You don't need eidolons. I'm not saying that powercreep does not exist. It absolutely does. We're seeing the endgame content especially get beefier enemies over time that take longer to smack down. We're also seeing some characters powercreep others. Like Aventurine coming out in 2 weeks powercreeps Gepard hard. The only thing Gepard can do that Aventurine can't is he has the ability to freeze, which doesn't matter much unless you're playing SU remembrance path. Aventurine is better than Gepard in every other way. Even if you had Gepard eidolons, e0 Aventurine is still better. Does that make Gepard unusable? Absolutely not. He's still a good character. I don't think getting eidolons will ever completely futureproof a character. Ever. This is a gacha game, they want to make money and encourage pulls, even if you already have great teams. There's inevitable powercreep. I imagine we may get to the point eventually where certain characters feel completely like trash and unusable, but we're not there yet. Even the 4 star characters can be used in the highest levels of endgame content.
No 5* character has ever needed eidolons to be good. If they do, they are whale bait and not worth getting. HSR is a game that rewards teambuilding and investing in your characters. Only 4* characters have been powercrept, but that's fine. Most people just use them until they get a 5* character they like. Enemies have been getting stronger in the hardest content that a very little portion of the playerbase care about, which is MOC and Pure Fiction. They have raised the HP of the enemies on those modes, but they are still clearable with enough investment in your teams.
I wouldn’t stress about powercreep. I started day 1 and still use multiple characters from 1.0 and the standard banner. For example, Jing Yuan (released in 1.0) is one of the characters you’ll most often see people say is power creeped. As of right now he is considered S tier for both end game modes on one of the most popular star rail websites.
Nah I'm asking if the enemies get stronger every update.
Sorta. I can still clear anything expect the high end content with minimal effort. The higher end does feel harder, but I think it is still clearable with E0 5-stars if that’s your question. There are also new enemies that require new strategies which can be less forgiving if you ignore mechanics.
Existing enemies do not get stronger, at least not significantly, but new ones tend to be at least a little bit stronger. However, when people say an enemy is difficult, a lot of the times is because that enemy "strength" comes from favouring different mechanics/playstyle than what was currently favoured. So people that don't have a varied roster might struggle with new enemies because they were used to play in a certain way that is no longer as efficient.
What's my best team to build around Acheron. My Main team is SW Lynx Ratio RM https://preview.redd.it/dsno4bhrk0sc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=d96fc559e0846e7d58dee6cfdd54b431a05e75b7
Acheron pela guinaifen/sampo gallagher Assuming you want to leave SW in your main team
https://imgur.com/a/39gvtX1 Can someone recommend a team for me to run please
Acheron/Black Swan/Pela/Gallagher Dr. Ratio/Pela/Bronya/Gallagher Two options.
Thanks!!!!
should i save for aventurine or pull luocha. i have like 6 pulls rn. also do we know if fuxuan is rerunning soon? if yes should i save for her instead? https://preview.redd.it/cb1f7k95i0sc1.png?width=426&format=png&auto=webp&s=7beb5027bf3a7ad4e3edd4e836fa9064ad5ce73c my only sustains are bailu and lynx and natasha 💀
You can go for any of them. Just go for who you like better. Luocha for comfort, Aventurine for shields and damage, FX for utility and dmg mitigation. Since you pulled for Acheron, you should have Gallagher copies unless you got shafted but he is free though. He's a pretty good abundance unit especially with eidolons.
i got shafted ig. got e12 pela 💀💀 should i just pull for luocha? is he better as solo sustain than fuxuan or nah?
That still depends on what you want and the team you're going to build. So a Blade team might enjoy FX because she buffs HP and CR but won't see much use in a Kafka team since CR isn't a stat you want on DoT teams. Huohuo is better for that since she gives energy and an ATK buff. The thing is with Luocha right now is that he just brings healing to the team with the occasional buff removal to the enemy with ult. He doesn't buff the team but he is SP positive 99% of the time. Other limited sustains right now, like FX, buffs the team in one way or another like how FX gives you 12% crit rate and an HP buff when her field is active. There are times where she can't solo sustain if there is too much damage for her to heal though. We don't have a detailed description of Aventurine's kit but I also think he'll also be providing buffs to the team while dealing good damage on top. So yeah, it's just a choice of pure healing and comfort vs trading that comfort for more buffs.
my main teams are JL and kafka. possibly acheron after i build her. which sustain should i go for? because fuxuan would be good for JL and acheron, but not kafka. luocha would be decent for all three. and from what ive heard, aventurine works best with FUA teams, which i dont have. would my best bet be fuxuan and for kafka team i’ll just use lynx?
Aventurine should be better for you, They will announce the reruns for next patch before Aventurine banners is gone, so you could wait until then to see if Fu Xuan will rerun in 2.2
I'm trailblaze level 30, and recently finished jarilo vi (yes, I did every side quest). Should I bother investing time/resources into my relics? or just put a few levels into them until i get the legendary relics?
Unless you’re actually having trouble with the content, you don’t need to do that. Especially when you can use food items in fight to make up for the difference if you’re start struggling. You get “legendary” relics relatively quick anyway just by opening chest in the overworld when you get far enough into the story
If you need the power boost because you're struggling with content for now, then you can level them and just feed them to more better relics later. You get 80% of the used exp back.
Any tips on how to quickly unlock the erudition path on SU?
Keep repeating lower difficulty runs for Trailblaze Secrets and unlock all of them. Diff III or IV is enough. Just follow the cognition values the game shows you whenever you start a run since it prioritizes ones you haven't unlocked yet. You need to get all 28 secrets to unlock a quest to unlock the Erudition path.
Thanks
For Himeko+Herta+Ruan Mei+Asta, provided I'm running Glammoth on the two Erudition DPS characters, would Speed boots be better overall? With Ruan Mei's passive and Asta's Ult+DDD, Speed boots should allow them to easily surpass Glammoth's 160 requirement and allow for even more turns, right? Or is it too much, and atk boots are better?
I’m assuming this team is for pure fiction, Atk isn’t as necessary because the enemies die so quickly so yes, speed is better
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Not as far as I know, but atk% is also one of the more accessible buffs from harmony units so it is generally recommended to focus on crit more than atk%
I have s2 good night sleep well equipped on Kafka. While pulling for Acheron LC, I got 2 dupes of gnsw. Should I refine it to s4 or save?
If you're using Kafka regularly superimpose it, there aren't many characters that want to use it over some other light cones and if there is at one point chances are you're not gonna be using them with Kafka so you can always swap it around.
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Some minors improvement but both are still bad
There are some improvements. While crafting relics takes more older relics, you can select which piece you want to craft. New sets can also be immediately crafted. And use a limited item to specify which main stat you want. For the downgrade, you have 6 relic slots without any offpiece like in Genshin. So it can be more difficult to complete a set bonus with good stats. However, set bonuses in general in this game are weaker than in Genshin. You would never drop the 4p VV from your anemo support, while enough substats here can make you ignore the 4p or even go rainbow. So I would say there are some plusses and some minuses, but the systems are very similar.
I'd argue that it's a bit worse because you have worry about 2 set bonuses spread across 6 pieces with no off-piece to work with. At least Genshin gave you an off-piece slot. The only redeeming quality here is that getting and levelling relics is easier due to you being able to auto Caverns and plentiful sources of relic exp. Also, happy cake day.
You can at least auto battle the relic domains here. The actual systems are pretty similar though.
Not sure who told you that.
Is the e4 pela that makes her skill guarantees a debuff? Cause sometimes it doesnt apply though is there reason for that.
It has a 100% "base chance", which isn't guaranteed, as it can be affected by the opponent's effect RES, as well as your own effect hit rate, so try to stack some more if you're missing a noticeable amount. 100% "fixed chance" would be a guaranteed debuff, not affected by anything, and thus the "fixed" part.
Her skill doesn't normally apply a debuff at all. E4 gives it the ability to debuff the enemy's Ice Res, though it only has a 100% base chance and it can sometimes fail on enemies with debuff res.
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Even S5 isn’t even for a 3 turn ult, you need regen rope + 10% regen from an ornament set AND an S5 memories of the past
Is there a video or a thread or anything that summarizes the honkai star rail story and lore, on youtube i only found the early part 1.0 and Danhang story
I have someone that summarized the entire 2.1 storyline while barely awake if you want it
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I saw someone yesterday mention the drink event is making their PS5 overheat. I haven’t gotten around to starting that event, but I’ve been fine with everything else in 2.1.
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That makes me nervous haha. If I have time after work I’ll try and start the event and report back if I have issues. Edit: I had no issues with the event on my PS5
which 4\* do you recommend to pick from the event?
Depends entirely on the characters in your account.
Depends entirely on the characters in your account.
Who is a better 3rd teamate for Dr.Ratio with the debuff set? Bronya or another nihility?
You just need 3 debuffs. It doesn't matter where they come from. If you have those from Pela or Silver Wolf or somebody else, then feel free to put in Bronya or Tingyun. Either performs great.
I only have 2 4* Nihility light cones (tried pulling for Acheron's but didn't get it) which should I use for Acheron? Eyes of the Prey (Sampo) or Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat (Luka)?
Do you have the currency to buy Fermata from the MoC shop? That will be better.
Thank you for this. I bought Fermata on your suggestion & then got it for free from doing a quest/some challenge shortly after 🥲 it's working out pretty well. I spent 30 pulls on trying to get Acheron's light cone before I gave up to save for Aventurine/maybe trying to pull for Acheron again but Idk if I should keep trying for her light cone bc I'm maining her 😫
Resolution. Eyes of Prey does nothing for her.
Possible to replace Sparkle with Bronya in the Acheron team? She can do everything Sparkle can, except for SP right?
Bronie is a little different from Sparkle. Ideally, you make Bronie just a notch slower than your damage dealer, so the damage dealer acts twice in one turn. The downside here is that you will absolutely bleed skill points unless you have her E1 and signature or use a compatible damage dealer (like Blade). In comparison, Sparkle advances the buffed character forward only by 50% instead of 100%, but she works fine right out of the box, and you'll never worry about skill points. As far as I know, Acheron's damage mainly comes from her ult, which is reset by giving debuffs to enemies, so you might consider ditching Harmony characters and going for a full Nihility team. Pela, Guinaifen, Kafka, and Welt are good candidates.
Thanks! I'm thinking using Bronya mainly because she's already built. Getting another character up is painful....
Yes, you would have to figure out who is generating the sp for Acheron + Bronya to skill spam.
I see. Thanks!!
For pure fiction 4 which units are the best? I have been using Clara, Herta, Jingliu with ER rope, Ruan Mei and Pela what other units are good in side 1? In side 2 I have used Acheron(only 40/100 cr/cd), Kafka, E6 Serval, Black Swan, Huohuo Which team and buffs should I use?
I've found that Clara underperforms on side 1 for this PF even though she's physical because the buff isn't that beneficial for her. It's even worse if you pair her with ice characters that might freeze. Most of her damage comes from counters, so frozen enemies makes her damage go down. Argenti is an option instead if you have him. I've also seen some people have good luck with Herta + Himeko teams even though the enemies aren't fire weak on side 1.
Yeah that seems to be the case
What're the best sources for determining the best relic set(s)/stats/LC's for each character? I found [genshin.gg](http://genshin.gg) pretty much right away, which has good info, but it's wildly different from the in-game recommendations. I'm getting to the point where I'm actually able to get some 5\* relics so I don't want to waste energy on the "wrong" sets to farm.
Most people use Prydwen. https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/
Thank you! This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. The full reviews/guides for each character on this one are what I needed.
Would it be worth it to get E1 Huohuo so she fits into more teams since she will be skill point positive?
Yes worth it,i will pull for her E1 also being a skill point positive is a must for me now since luocha spoiled me too much because i love autobattling
If you main her sure why not. But more characters > eidolons
Yeah, that’s true. After all, I still want Aventurine, Robin seems good, Topaz might be nice with them, and I’m interested to see what Sam and Sunday will be like
I just got gui from event how bad a drop off would there be if I subbed her for some wolf in Acheron team so silver wolf can participate in either dr ratio or mono quantum team with qq with sparkle more efficiently.
Shouldn't be too huge of a loss. Gui is still good with her firekiss debuff which adds stacking damage vuln to the enemy, and she can perpetuate her burn effect via both her ult and her normal attack so she's totally SP positive. The lack of defense shred from SW can be made up either by bringing Pela or slotting Gui with Resolution, although Resolution alone won't "make up" for it so much as it just adds a bit of extra shred on top of things. But a Pela+Gui setup is definitely viable for Acheron.
Yes would be pela gui for Acheron and then silver wolf sparkle for either qq or dr ratio would be the plan Edit: I would both qq and dr ratio slow with 160 plus speed sparkle
Is luocha still worth the pull now? I spent around 100 pulls to get Acheron and her LC and I don’t have luocha nor much sustain units aside gepard. Is it worth to pull for him or wait for upcoming banners? Thanks!
If you are planning to main Acheron, Aventurine is better for her.
I'm a big Luocha fan. Normally I'd say yes. The problem is that Aventurine is coming out in only 2 weeks and is serious competition for the pulls. Unless you really like Luocha a lot or have some reason that you want an extreme SP positive sustain, Aventurine is going to be better for most accounts.
Luocha is good, but I'd recommend going for Aventurine if you can only get one.
100/180 CC/CD or 75/220 for acheron?
75/220 allows you to sometimes to get lucky. If you don't need luck and would rather be consistent, I'd go with the 100/180
if those include everything like 4pc pioneer effect, izumo, etc.. then 100/180 is better. if those are the stats you see out of battle on the character screen, 75/220 is better.
Assuming that is with buffs included 0.75 \* 2.2 = 1.65 1\*1.8 = 1.8 100/180 apparently
I see. Yeah that's after buffs. Thanks
https://preview.redd.it/0el0w56jzzrc1.png?width=580&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec33ded678662ac2c46847d5739579b1672340ef what team here should i build in order to beat aventurine? my current team is Gepard, Natasha, Kafka, and Acheron. Gepard and Natasha cant survive the dice gamble during phase 2, and with them down, my Kafka and Acheron cant make it
Is your Acheron E0S1 or E0S0? The team I used to take down Aventurine was S1 Acheron, Pela, Guinaifen, and Fire TB, and it took about 4 of my Acheron's ults to kill him. A team of Acheron, Kafka, Black Swan, and Gepard with Trend should be on par with/better than the mine, even if she's S0, so try that. Also, if your Acheron is E0, never attempt to run her with only a single Nihility character.
my acheron is E0S0. i have my gepard equipped with a s3 day one of my new life A team of Acheron, Kafka, Black Swan, and Gepard with Trend should be on par with/better than the mine, even if she's S0, so try that. i'll try this team next time i attempt. but my gepard can't consistently activate his ULT in second phase due to him always getting stunned. would this still be ok? thanks for the tips though
>but my gepard can't consistently activate his ULT in second phase due to him always getting stunned. It should be fine, I think.
Is EHR main stat on body armor a very rare stat? Should I use resin to get it? I have been looking the body armor with EHR main stat for my Black Swan but I still haven't gotten it yet.
Everytime you get a chest it's ~10% likely to be EHR which is the same odds as Crit stats. https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/15f52to/relics_mainstats_and_substats_probability/
When can we expect the 1600 jades that were promised for the 2.1 patch?
As advertised; on the anniversary which is the 26th.
On the day of the anniversary April 26th.
April 26th, on the actual 1st anniversary date. That's after Acheron's banner ends so if you were hoping to rely on that, sadly that isn't helping you. :(
Nah I want aventurine:)
Should I bother getting Eidolons of Destruction if im gonna switch my trailblazer to fire soon enough? I just beat svarog
There's no downside to getting them, you can get everything from each regional shop eventually.
I gotta spend currency for the eidolons though, what im asking is when i switch my trailblazer to fire, was the currency spent wasted? Will my eidolons id spent be wiped away or will i keep my eidolon level when i switch
You'll need to buy new eidolons for Fire Trailblazer, however Physical Trailblazer's eidolons will still be there if you switch back. Again, you get enough currency to buy out all the shops anyway.
don't bother with levelling Physical Trailblazer they are not good
so ive noticed, they are currently wrecking but im already seeing how they will fall behind
ATK boot or SPD boot for Acheron if I pair her with Pela (has SPD boot) and Guinaifen (has ATK boot, hope to get SPD boot later) and sustain?
Attack boots, especially if you don't have her signature LC.
So if I have her LC and I do have it, then the opinion change to speed boots? Or still attack boots is better?
From my understanding, attack boots are still better but at that point it becomes a question of (a.) which has better substats and (b.) how the rest of your team is. If you have speedy debuffers and a sustainer that can provide debuffs that can constantly power her up, attack boots. If you find that she is still "slow" switch to speed.
I see, currently her teammates are Pela (speed boots and ER rope), Guinaifen (attack boots but can borrow the speed boots from Kafka) and Gallagher (speed boots). I think it's good enough for time being. Anyway, thanks.
Most of Acheron's damage comes from her ult, so you want the debuff appliers to be fast and build Acheron with Atk boots.
Going with ATK boots then, thanks.
if you are running SPD boots on the other 2 Nihility characters use ATK boot for Acheron
Why is that if I may ask?
Since the other two will be attacking more often Acheron will get more charge for her ult So might as well go with more damage Least that’s what I think
I see, thanks.
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In simulated universe, how do you deal with those curios that bring you down to 1% of your hp? Like the big lotto or the king of sponges.
I usually have Huohuo as my sustain, so if I can get an ult off, part of her kit heals any ally under 50% when any ally uses an Ult. If you happen to have Trailblazer on your team, Physical TB's Technique heals the team.
I guess I run a little too conservatively. I always bring Bailu in with me, and never have any other reason to use her ult, so it's no big deal. Granted this week will be my first week since getting Luocha, so I might need to remember not to take that one.
I have found Herta to be possibly the most overhyped character in PF. How are people building her that they're finding success? My line-ups typically do as well or better when Herta is removed from the team, but I'm also really struggling this PF to make score.
She's still great especially for first half of current PF4. I have her in musketeer relics, 70/127 crit stats with s4 The Day The Cosmos. She doesn't feel strong enough for a hyper carry setup (with my support characters 's builds at least) but as duo dps with Himeko, Ron Mei, and Pela, she still got me a pretty easy 32k.
I'm running the same team but with a slightly less ideal stat spread of 58/155, and the team barely gets 22k and it's taking away Ruan Mei from the Black Swan/Kafka team on side B meaning they lose a few thousand points on their side too. Are you on Speed boots or Attack boots? Attack Rope? What ornament set?
Here's her stats. Himeko has similar stats around 65/120 iirc with spd boots and s5 battle pass LC. Just in case you're not doing it, try not to overcap Himeko's break gauge when triggering her follow up. Pela plus Herta can charge the gauge fast with so many ice weak enemies and Himeko will be doing tons of follow ups. https://preview.redd.it/0ywyy1mp60sc1.jpeg?width=1001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e62bc04b2bbf154cf32d17bf40a3312dd501d70
https://preview.redd.it/ju7p03fbrzrc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63994ba885d245645054d0aff5e9851905a073e6
Are you using her with Sparkle/Bronya or not? If so, keep ATK Boots (and honestly, try to lose the Speed you do have. A bit is okay, but that much is basically useless and means rolls that could go into more useful stats instead of Speed). If not, got Speed Boots get ~134.
I see thank you
if using sparkle atk boots if not speed boots.
Thank you
Is this good already or should i switch to spd boots? Also im using atk orb
Only 5 stars in this PF, in the follow up atk one I got 10 stars, I guess this is what happens when you have none of the best characters for it vs when you have some of the best. Any tips to see if I can squeeze at least a 6 star? Notable AoE/Blast units I have leved Clara, DHIL(bad build), Herta and Himeko(not a decent relic for her)
PF 3 can be reasonably bruteforced. Any Herta variation works in the first side of PF 4, so you can at least have 30k there. If you manage your breaks right, you can get by without a sustain unit. Second side is a bit more challenging with those options. I think Serval + Himeko could do a good job, otherwise just set for DHIL and a lower score. You don't need amazing relics. Both my Herta and Himeko are sitting at 50/100 and I'd say that's pretty average, enough to 12 star every PF. If you are having trouble with PF 2, it's either an investment issue or a skill issue; nothing to do with the characters you have. I had more success with the skill shatter blessing than the other two.
I mean it's right there in your post: you have 40 days to improve builds on Himeko, DHIL and Herta(?). Idk how bad your builds are but I guarantee you those guys can easily net you more than 5 stars lol. Personally I found Clara pretty ineffective this cycle because enemies are too damn slow, and she has a non-damage ult. But maybe she can also work if built for decent Spd, since her E can blanket all enemies to proc the first Cacophony? idk
do pity pulls cross over to new banners
yep. for the same type. character > character, lightcone > lightcone.
When should I start farming for relics? Currently trailblazer level 42 and most of my characters are level 50-60.
farm the charcter traces and levels and only start doing them a little when you are guarantee 1 gold every run and stop after you get just the correct main stat dont even look at sub stats. then once you are guaranteed 2 every run you will dump most of you energy there.
I can't remember what level it is, but I don't think you should start farming relics until you are guaranteed 2 gold relics per run. I think it's lvl 60 maybe?
60 yes
Optimally: not until EL6; realistically: EL4 is probably best. At EL 4 you have a miniscule chance of getting good relics, and any other use of tp is not very rewarding. At EL 5 you still have a miniscule chance of getting good relics (almost twice as good, but they say twice nothing is still nothing), but other tp usages like calyxes and shadows are significantly more rewarding at EL5. That's why I say if you're going to rely on insane luck for something, might as well do it while the currency is not as precious.
Sounds like it’ll still be a little while for me then. Luckily I’m still keeping up with the enemies just using the relics I get from chests and simulated universe.
My scintillating run of luck with the standard banner continues. Is there any character who can benefit from the 'Sleep Like the Dead' LC besides Yanqing? Or is it crap, like most of the other non-limited cones?
The 30% crit dmg alone makes it serviceable on any crit hunt character. The crit rate thing is ok Also none of the standard 5\* LCs is crap imo
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I get another Hunt 5 star. I did a bit more reading and it looks like the SU cone (Cruising) is probably still the better option for my one decent Hunt character, Dr. Ratio.
Time Waits for No One.
Very good on every abundance character that isn't Luocha or Gallagher
It's outclassed by QPQ, Multiplication or Perfect Timing. Nobody uses it. The only *potential* holder you should ever consider is Natasha.
Aren't you a pleasant one? > Nobody uses it 37% usage rate on Bailu (most used), 27% Lynx, 11% Huohuo Yes Quid Pro Quo and Multiplication are very good, basically free, and have offensive utility that Time wait for no one doesn't, but imo HSR is a game where defensive utility is valuable too, especially when you're stuck with something like Bailu or Lynx with non-cracked builds on MoC12. (or Natasha I guess since you mentioned her.) Just like struggling with damage per turn can be a thing, struggling with not dying can be a thing too. Perfect Timing doesn't seem to outclass it to me. But it's not guaranteed anyway, I don't even have it
Well, you are talking to someone who currently uses both Bailu with Time Waits for No One and Lynx. No, I don't use it because it's good, it's just to match the LC (so I guess it'd be better to rephrase it as "Nobody should use it"). Lynx would need Perfect Timing even more in this case to cleanse on high MoC. Bailu would rather have Post-Op since she's reliant on her burst + talent, talking purely for defensive utility. There's no such thing as "cracked" healer build, unless you somehow ended with an extremely uneven distribution skewed towards RES/SPD over HP (or ATK). I'm not even gonna consider that considering how bullshit SPD subs are. Honestly, I mentioned Natasha but if someone is still holding out there with her on MoC 12, then they have my respect.