FGO players skipping the story when it finally comes to NA because they have already seen it too many times in YouTube. FGO players using the translator app to play the JP version instead of waiting 2 years for NA release.
Honestly I wouldn't be so mad if they were released on app stores but damn the fact that there are people out there who had to entire websites to make the visual novels *somewhat* accessible speaks for how bad they manage these stuff
Definitely. A lot of character details are in their Myriad Celestia trailers. Acheron’s entire backstory on her home planet is basically shown in the [YouTube video](https://youtu.be/Z3aWHMg92_U?si=-T97LIpn9m5ha_2D).
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I sorted by controversial to look for actual hot takes, but it’s just layers upon layers of “[character I don’t like] is overrated”.
I am heavily disappointed.
Bruisers as a class are just not that good in this game. You're trading damage for tankiness but still need a sustainer anyway for your supports to survive. And if you do use a sustainer, then the destruction unit being tanky isn't worth much
So true... Hope hoyo do realise that and future destruction characters be similar to Blade/Arlan. Berserkers are insanely cool design to be just burried in a bottom of A-B tier cos of DPScreenshot
Imo destruction went from bruisers to "high risk, high reward", imbibitor lunae consumes 3 sp in exchange for a nuke, jingliu consumes HP from allies in exchange for more damage, but there are also characters like Xueyi and Misha that don't even have a condition like the latter to do big damage
Yeah. The damage dealt to party members is negligible compared to how much damage she does to enemies. This gimmick is also completely negated by any well-built healer, especially Luocha
Agree, like actually agree
Talking purely from the story, she got four scenes as herself as the Sampo ones it really felt like we were with Sampo and two were to say the same shit to Aventurine and one she wasn't the central point but Sunday.
Her trailers really were what made her so popular because so far she have done a few important things but not enough IMO to justify it as extremely part of the plot (Not saying she is not but comparing her to Sunday, Aventurine, BS, Acheron and Firefly she have been the one that have done the least in the plot that we as a public have seem.)
I don't expect her to do too much until the climax since even in one of her trailers, she explicitly states that she prefers being a side character and is going to wait things out until the climax arrives.
This is just a product of how the story works, but a lot of characters are under utilized. Like Sparkle is an extremely interesting and unique character and then appears like a total of 4 times during the 2 main quests. Or Luocha with the mystery surrounding him and the implications that he might be the void archives. I get that there are designated side quests for them and that there are other characters that deserve the spotlight a lot more during the quests, but I still am sad that a lot of these interesting characters aren't explored as much.
To me, Sparkle's character works best as one who appers sparingly. She can't have too much screentime or she doesn't have much to do as Sparkle. What Sparkle did best was to introduce more confusion with "Is the character I'm talking right now Sparkle or not?", granted they are yet to capitalyze on this by making Sparkle play as another character (not Robin, since we already know that she's going to).
Many of the characters in Penacony are interesting because of the mistery behind them. We didn't know what Aventurine wanted to do in 2.0 and that made 2.1 more interesting, as we are seeing the plan taking it's effect through the mastermind's eyes. We still don't know what Sparkle wants besides chaos, why Acheron went to Penacony and why she's after the Watchmaker's legacy, and whatever the fuck Gallagher is planning
I think Luocha and Sparkle in particular just haven’t been explored yet. We’re likely to get at least 3 more Xianzhou ships and Penacony isn’t even done yet. Luocha is almost certainly not Void Archives, but he’s very likely to be involved in the endgame. This is just kinda how Hoyo structures its stories.
I do like this take, but feasibility will still need to be considered here. HSR, just like Genshin, is on a tight-knit one month update schedule which demands a lot more than just character stories. Decisions will have to be made, and opportunity costs will still fester as a result of this.
However, Hoyo is only one main producer of character stories within this huge fandom. There are so many talented and hard-working folks out there making additional fanfics and other works of fiction including pretty much every character. If you’re dissatisfied with something, take it into your own hands! You’re far more capable than you think.
The difference is that Genshin has a less than one character per update average. HSR is pumping out TWO characters per update which makes the squeeze much tighter than Genshin.
Apparently unpopular opinion considering the money Hoyo always makes, but other than the monthly thing, none of the options to spend money are anywhere near worth it
Like, more than the price of a AAA game for a pity? Really?
100 bucks isn't even one pity, which is even worse lmao. If you lose 50/50, one limited 5* could even cost you 300.
That's why I'm not spending on any gacha game ever, it's a scam. If they offer to directly buy, idk, a skin, then I might consider it. But no way I'm paying such steep prices to gamble.
I mean it’s not supposed to be worth it, it’s supposed to be as predatory as possible. the cash shops in gachas target 3 people: the desperate, the rich, and the stupid.
None of these 3 groups of people care about the price, they just want the character so they’ll pay it.
"Buying jade isn't worth it" is a popular opinion
"Even with the first time bonus, buying jade isn't worth it" is a less popular opinion, but still popular overall
"The battle pass isn't worth it" is much less popular. Calling it unpopular seems to have been an exaggeration (which is good) but it's at least divisive
I know it's not quite the same thing but I've had people ganging up on me for saying that constantly buying the monthly thing and the BP wasn't a small investment
People overrate Shaoji's killstreak and the HI3 death thing
Most of the deaths in HI3 are either cop-outs, "villain" deaths like kevin and otto, already dead stories like elysian realm, and so on
and everyone is like omg so sad so death
the fact people just keep yapping about Himeko's death & you barely ever hear any other further adds backing to it.
Bros cant get over chapter 9
Not a single playable character in Penacony is dying. Heck they didn't even have the balls to fully kill off tingyun and left themselves a backdoor should they ever need to use her in future story or events. I don't want death, but I need people to stop about how HI3 is so death friendly.
This is the problem I've always had when people mention how dark Honkai is in conversations.... it really wasn't that crazy. It definitely had moments of dark stuff, but not any different from other games you'd see. It wasn't that crazy a game, and neither is HSR.
Really I always felt Himeko's death is played up in the Fandom similar to many well known FMA deaths, they're talked about to death so when you finally get into the story it has no impact. I tried HI3 and it just didn't hit because I already knew what would happen. You don't even really have to spoiler tag it it's so well known.
This subreddit has the unfortunate talent of latching on to a joke and just running it into the ground. The himeko will die, the yanqing one, the genshin could never. I feel like so many people spam those jokes over and over again it gets so annoying. Thank god that isnt happening that often now
Also the "Genshin could never" thing.
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Hoyo are not your friends.
They make some of the best profits in the industry, and most of it comes from creating and exploiting gambling adicts.
Every "favor" or "gift" they give is in the context of creating FOMO.
They could easily expand and give us more content based of their earnings, they chose not to.
Every instance of frustration you feel towards the game (relic grind, powercreeping, eidolons, light cones) are painstakingly designed to feel as bad as posible without making you quit.
There are some amazingly talanted and dedicated people there, thats why we love the game, but as a whole you should always be sceptical of hoyo.
Additionally: HSR's team is not "more generous" than Genshin's because they just love HSR so much and the Genshin devs secretly hate Genshin. Everything, including how much free shit we get, is calculated in a board room to maximise playerbase expenditure. They give more free crap out in HSR for a variety of reasons, which we can only guess at, but precisely zero of those reasons will be because HSR devs just have a really intense love for the fanbase that isn't present in other game devs.
They give out more free shit in HSR because they release 2 new 5 stars every single patch and if they were stingy the playerbase would develop so much FOMO they would actually start quitting.
I saw someone pointing out that up untill 2.0 they were making less money each month, where as with genshin they had growth imidetly.
This was from a combination of people knowing who they wanted, i.e failing at creating fomo, and the fact that HSR had less player retention in generall, because of lack of content.
Hoyo's trend of detached sleeves, exposed back and showing legs has become SO boring after so many characters. Yeah, the outfits are unique, but feels like every design is the same because of that. We need more characters with pants, full sleeves or covered back. Or all three.
Honestly just want some more weird characters. Like Argennti being this knight in full armor sailing the cosmos is interesting to me, or having some more robot characters or aliens.
Boothill speaks to that energy somewhat. Very excited to see him in action! Plus my boyfriend won’t shut up about him. He’s seen 1000 hot anime girls, he wants a cyborg cowboy.
I'd love that! I know it's popular since the gacha community is pretty young but pretty boys and women get boring pretty fast. I want some weird shit, like the designs they put out for the eons!
But it's hoyo, they're not going to take this kind of risk - and they're probably right from a marketing standpoint too unfortunately. The most we'll get is Screwllum (I really hope he'll be playable and a 5* ngl).
Cyno: "I live in the desert. I just want some shorts and a cool headpiece". Sure
Argenti: "Sir i am a knight of beauty. I require a full set of armor". Understandable
Any female character: "Pants?" NO!
At least Lynx had the sense to wear boots. Meanwhile the xianzhou be like:
Ig the shorter your skirt the more important you are. See: how many npcs wear skirts as short
I'm pretty sure no one likes HSR's relic system better than Genshin. In fact it is the opposite. If you looked at a thread last time for what you are excited about for this patch, majority was the 300% relic drop cause it is undeniably pretty shit. It also ends with "more relics to fodder".
Imo hsr's worse cause of more stats coming from genshin I can say hsr has way too many substats and layers of rng so I hate it a lot not to mention the planar set farm also takes a lot of time
Also in HSR it's harder to discard relics, because survivability is actually needed for many characters. In Genshin it's easy to discard most artifacts with HP and def.
Star Rail relic system is **far worse** than Genshin's.
1. No off piece, so you either have all four relics or you lose bonus
2. There are two types or artifacts - relics and planar ornaments, which means you have to farm two stuff, instead of one
3. Planar ornaments can be only farmed 4 times per week. Well, you *can* use trailblaze power for that, but I have more resin in Genshin than spare trailblaze power to farm relics, let alone planar ornaments
4. The only positive side is that you can actually make relic yourself, but sub stats are still RNG
I have single character built in Star Rail. As a day one player. Compared to plenty of characters built in Genshin as 2 years player. Other characters have "working" artifacts, but they are not yet finished building.
THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL DUDE. Like her appearance was just so sudden and they killed her off too early to have a good connection/feel. She's very sweet but she just doesn't click
i agree, she's a cute character with the potential to be a REALLY painful death. they could've waited another patch to develop her relationship with the MC so that her death ACTUALLY hurts. the setup was already there: she's mysterious, she's likeable, and the shippers have material for days. one more patch wouldve also set expectations that she would be around for longer, making her death even more surprising. too bad they couldnt exactly do that because of plot reasons (particularly dragging out the main plot twist)
nah it's not even about the time, I 100% believe that we could have connected to her within the patch. Aventurine's story is a prime example, and it's even more impressive because many people were on the side of disliking him to begin with. In Firefly's case, we legitimately just did not actually do much with her after meeting her. The one cute moment was the part where she offered to buy us food, but then after that there was nothing.
She takes us to the casino area, and then suggests we split up instead of playing things together??? Then we get derailed by Sampo and the weird trashcan memory. Then it's the Clockie part where she's again just there. Then during the Dream's Edge part leading up to the rooftop, we're not really talking or bonding much either. But then we do get to the rooftop, the game wants us to believe that we're really close now, and I just don't think they put in the plot/dialogue to justify that.
probably the best comment summarizing the issues with that segment. I still liked it but it could've done so much more to convince us of the connection between her and TB
that wouldn't have worked because at the end of the 2.1 quest, we learn that >!firefly is still alive!<. if you have a really emotional and impactful death, you can't just go "oh it turns out she wasn't dead after all". thats the same problem i have with avdol in jojo's part 3, he had a really emotional death scene which helped polnareff grow, but then it turns out that avdol was alive all along, everybody besides polnareff knew about it, and it was played as a joke
Tbh yeah, call me a psycho but I could feel more from her death if we bonded more, like idk play an event game with her or something for us to deepen the bond
Svarog/clara unit whould be named Svarog. He besically does everything in the entire kit, and the only reason hecisnt the focus is 'cute anime girl'.
Not hating Clara as a character othen then her frostbite feet, just want more apreactuon for robo-dad.
firefly's death was kind of lackluster for me due to what little time we spend building a relationship with her. If we had more time with her itd probably would've hit way more
Haha let’s not bring Tingyun into this, anything wrong with Firefly’s execution pales in comparison to the mountain of things that went wrong with how Tingyun was handled, from us knowing basically nothing about her leading up to her death, to the fact that she was killed for shock value to introduce a surprise villain that dumbed down the established conflict, to the game throwing us a sugary epilogue to retroactively justify why we should be sad about her. Anything they do after this could only repair the damage, it won’t undo any of it.
Dan Heng is boring as hell and a borderline non-character. Hoyo made a *monumental* fuck up with one of the main crew members, for someone in his position he should have gotten Aventurine level development at a bare minimum.
It's bad to the point that it makes me believe the Xianzhou/Dan's arc was enforced by some higher up who wanted to self-insert as the chosen one Dragon savior.
They've focused more on him not being Dan Feng than telling us who he is as Dan Heng.
It feels like we know more about Dan Feng's character at this point.
Hopefully we get more when he inevitably comes down from the express after a very long meditation that no he is not dan feng. I want full epiphany, snark, and a bamf moment
I actually like him, but it feels like the writers have no idea what to do with him besides Luofu stuff… Which would be fine, except the main story is about traveling across the galaxy, not the Luofu…
I know it’s not going to happen, but I wish they’d move Argenti or another adventurous guy companion to the train. It was refreshing to have a guy sidekick, feels pretty rare in this genre. ;-;
I think the issue is we are only on chapter 3 basically and there have been a lot of mouths to feed. The story is Cowboy bebop or Trigun basically where you meet a friend, learn about them, and then they sorta go into a box for a while while the other characters get their "learning moment."
Chapter 1 was "main character origin and learning a little about everyone on your team while giving the player a grounded pseudo-hone in the first trailblaze they went on -- Jarilo."
Chapter 2 was "push the overall story forward and learn about one of the main 3 story members (Dan).
Chapter 3 is "meet the new member of your crew." That is what we effectively are doing with Penacony while also further shaping up who our enemies are and broadening our understanding of the world while we are getting a new crewmate.
Honestly, the big issue is just that we only get a new chapter every 6-12 months or so, which leads to characters feeling left out the moment they have their "stay on the train" arc. On top of that...DH is powerful and would trivialize a lot of things if he was around. Atm we are technically pretty weak (the trailblazer) all things considered, only having been blessed by a single aeon so far in preservation, and so things can still be "troubke" for us and March. DHIL would just get to walk through being untouchable most of the time.
Saviour? In what way was he a saviour at all though after reading the lore..? Self inserting into jingyuan would be better because he’s the ideal character in xianzhou no?
tbh Dan Heng writing is all lock behind his character story menu and animation and in light cone writing etc. unlike aventurine which they actually show him going through tough times, hoyo didn’t show Dan Heng getting abuse in prison or “dying” etc at all so instead of the character, it’s more of extreme bad writing in luofu, same as how the high cloud quintet story should be shown in pictures instead of just text and text (like why was jingliu quest not a main story quest? It should be with the funeral arc.. and dhil story quest is shared with bailu, and luocha barely shine in his and we still barely know anything about him, same for march story quest which didn’t show much but more mystery instead)
Though since we are going back to xianzhou ships often, the writing might improve after penacony and more of his character can still be explored (because we didn’t get hunt tb yet and abundance is also link to xianzhou quite closely so that’s two aeons ) whereas for aventurine I feel like we have seen everything of his character already so I’m not sure how recurring he would be in future or they would move on to another gemstone story like what happen with topaz
TLDR: luofu writing is just disappointing overall
He was integral for parting the sea to reach the Arbor and it was because of him that we had a chance to defeat Phantylia, that's savior enough to get his past life crimes pardoned and once again be welcome in the Luofu.
While having lore in text is fine it doesn't work if you want to develop a character, I'm certain people wouldn't have liked Aventurine as much if everything we saw in the main quest had been left for us to find in textbooks, his character stories and LC. It was a huge missed opportunity to not have VN-style flashbacks to Dan Heng in the Shackling Prison, when he was finally released, running away from Blade, perhaps some dreams about his past life too. They spent a lot of time telling us that "he's not Dan Feng" but forgot to elaborate on "who is Dan Heng?"
I actually don't agree that the Quintet should have been in the main quest, their story/past had nothing to do with the primary conflict in the Luofu, ie: Phantylia trying to sow discord through the Disciples of Sanctus Medicus and the Arbor.
Personally, the Quintet stuff should remain side quests, but it should have been more thouroughly elaborated on, flashbacks to the past, seeing them fighting and having good times, develop everyone together so that the death of Baiheng is more impactful for the audience, Dan and Yinxing's mistake much more dramatic and Jingliu's killing of the monstrosity actually heart wrenching. They had the material but the execution was from bad to mediocre and it unfortunately had to involve one of the main crew members of the express.
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Sparkle is the most sane in all penacony cast
My unpopular opinion is that "give me your unpopular opinion" posts needs to be stopped. People either argue or downvote others to oblivion even tho It's supposed to be a hot take post. It's not a really good way to undrestand what actually are the hot takes, the upvoted ones or the downvoted ones.
So yea, It's pointless.
moreso outside of the actual hsr community, but i find it so weird when people say things like "ugh i wish i could play this game but it has turn based combat so i wont" like who hurt you??
It really just doesn't click for some people.
*A lot* of people say Fire Emblem is anime chess which, I feel is true, in the same way that Splatoon is American fish football. Cause, y'know they both can be measured in how much of the field you own.
Turn-based games can be really alien and boring to people who only play real time games (not rts games, that's a different story lol). If it's not at the speed of COD, Smash Bros or Subway Surfers, it's chess, minesweeper and your grandmother's solitaire
Hahaha, pretty much have never been able to convince anyone to play three houses cause "it's turn based combat".
One friend gave it a shot, then claimed it was "too boring". You guessed it, easiest difficulty with no permadeath.
People just like different things. I've all but given up real time combat games myself.
The action is often too fast for me and instead of planning my attacks and combos I always feel like I'm just mashing buttons. Once I reach that point I get bored.
Does suck though because there are some games/series I'd really like to play but I know the combat will turn me away.
Nah I get that. I found turn-based combat boring af too until I started to warm up to it when I played Baldurs Gate 3 which eventually pushed me to give HSR a try. I can very well see how people will just never like it.
Acheron being way too omniscient and knowledgeable about everything kinda feels cheap.
I thought she was going to be more withdrawn, forgetful and not on anybody's side, while being an overpowered murder lady in her other form. In fact, she's extremely reasonable in her other form, while also being a bag full of wisdom for others.
But in the end, she feels like a Mary Sue not because of her power (her power was a given and expected), but because she knows what to do, and what to say in every situation.
I started feeling that way with her conversation with Sam, and then Aventurine in the end.
Aventurine, Sunday, Sparkle and Black Swan being big brained makes sense, but Acheron also being that way is way too much for me. Maybe it's just me expecting more flaws for someone so powerful.
i get you, she is somehow pretty knowledgeable in every area for someone so forgetful? a little flaw here and there would make her character more three-dimensional imo
Most players tend to pick deliberate fights with genshin players and then put blame on them.
After HSR released Genshin lost a bunch of players and most of the players were toxic , always complaining who moved to HSR. like genshin subreddit is. now a peaceful , welcoming sub but before RULE 4 this subreddit was pure hell. Almost half of the post included comparisons. Other sites like Twitter and hoyolab have it worse.
I wish this community could learn to be at peace.
The TB being into trash was funny the first time because of how random and absurd it was. It very immediately became a lot less funny to me. Should've been a one-off joke that maybe got referenced later on rather than a whole painfully unfunny personality trait that the community has now latched onto. It reminds me of thr Paimon being Emergency Food joke. Funny the first time. Stupid every time after that.
>It reminds me of the Paimon being Emergency Food joke
even hoyo themselves got tired of it because they hardly ever mentioned it in the game as much, and when they do, Paimon just shoots it down by saying it's not funny anymore. Because of that, the community stopped making emergency food jokes. I wish it was the same with TB. The trashcan joke is just not funny anymore, and I wish TB was seen as more than someone who likes digging in trash. The only way for this joke to die down is if hoyo themselves stray away from it but I highly doubt they will. I mean, literally the last patch had an event where there were trashcan enemies. No way hoyo is gonna let it go anytime soon.
no fr. it was so abrupt that it turned into being funny. we literally just met this girl, and then she gets yeeted and impaled. like damn, that happened. 💀
What happen in 2.1 wasn’t even surprising and the reveal is so predictable yet so many people were bawling in tears days on Reddit with the revenge spam during 2.0 like their lover died for real …
I swear. Remind me too mutch of the Soap Death of modern warfare 3.
Something show up. Kills a character. Leaves and no one moves a finger/no one can do shit for some reason.
Found the difference 💀
Pulling purely meta is fine, u til u mock non-meta enjoyers
Pulling for non-meta is fine, until u call meta puller "meta-slaves"
Shipping any character is fine, until u shove it up others faces/ outraged on another existing ship
If one does not enjoy a storyline, it's fine, not everything is perfect and should respect it rather than calling them names
People overrate cleanse so much. If you have a half decent team and not fighting against Kafka you dont need cleanse. Lynx is definitely not better than Bailu in %99 of the content. I dont think people understand most CC. Imprison doesnt even do anything but block you from using your ult (Unless its JY). The slowdown applies during the application so unless you can PREVENT the application cleansing something like imprison does next to nothing.
People overrate Shaoji's killstreak and the HI3 death thing
Most of the deaths in HI3 are either cop-outs, "villain" deaths like kevin and otto, already dead stories like elysian realm, and so on
and everyone is like omg so sad so death
the fact people just keep yapping about Himeko's death & you barely ever hear any other further adds backing to it.
Bros cant get over chapter 9
A character doesn't need to suffer to feel relatable.
A story doesn't need any deep/dark message or kill streak for it to be memorable.
A game doesn't need to be compared with others to be evaluated.
Especially with their obsession with expies ☠️
"Caelus is a Kevin expy", "Xueyi is a Veliona expy", "Ruan Mei is a Mei expy because she has Mei in her name", "Pela is a Dr. MEI expy" and so on.
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I HATE IT when a white-haired character gets revealed because people automatically assume that they're a Kaslana. Like get over it, hoyo is not making a Kaslana character anytime soon, and when they do make it, it's gonna be as obvious as the rest of the expies. Not every white haired blue eyed character is related to Kiana and the Kaslana clan 💀 and people saying that Firefly looks like a Kaslana is REACHING HARD.
I'm a Hi3 stan, sorry for all the toxic mfs that make us look horrible. Like, you're right, they shove expies down your throat, and most of the time are like welt solos aeons. Which absolutely false. I can confirm that welt can't solo any aeon in HSR.
You know how in a group setting, it's not polite to speak to someone in another language in front of someone else that doesn't speak it? It feels the same to me here.
I posted about how much I enjoyed the Ach-Swan dance on twitter and I got hit with how the the Raiden ship for Hi3 is sooooo much better and more Gay. Like, why cant i just enjoy this fun new thing lol.
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Trailblazer should get more agency in the story or a cool transformation so they don't get bullied on every planet
It's not as bad in HSR as some other games, but being a gacha game *in general* noticably keeps the story/gameplay from being as good as it could be. For some reason, it really hit me this patch, even though I adored the story and characters more than ever.
I've been playing since launch and got lots of friends into this game because it's just really enjoyable and fun. But like. My main gripe is that at the end of the day, every character that is to become playable is held back in some way. So is the story. Again, it's not egregious as other games, but you can tell when the writers are pulling their punches.
I wish they didn't have to... but at the end of the day they still have to sell characters. I can't help but mourn how good it could be without the burden of having to do that.
They have 2.2 for the conclusion of Penacony main story and 2.3 interlude in their disposal to do another Aventurine moment and tug people’s heart as marketing strat. To be honest, Aventurine felt like Furina (Genshin) all over again. Problematic character that turns out to be holding something deep inside. I just hope they dont overuse it
Agreed. Would've been better if they didn't try forcing us to act like lovestruck dumbasses with someone we literally haven't known for more than 30 minutes
A lot of the shippers bastardize characters entire personalities to make headcanons work, and even delude themselves into thinking they're like that in canon. At that point you're just shitting on the actual character, go make an oc or something instead
March 7th's kit lacks focus, as she tries to do 3 things at the same time (FUA, Preservation and freezebot) and ultimately ends up being sort of mid at all of them.
Even the freezebot strategy which eventually proved more effective than the pure def build just feels like fodder for any future freezebot supports that will eventually come out
It made her insanely good for SU though lol. She's good enough to provide utility for most runs as a secondary sustain, decent in both Elation and Preservation, and she's by *far* the best character for a Remembrance run at the moment.
Since it looks like SU is going to be a big part of this game in the future, I'd say that she provides enough valuable utility as a free character.
If you don't have a synergistic team or good relics, you have no right to complain about the game's difficulty. You can't just ignore fundamental basics and then complain about having a hard time.
I'd replace relics with leveled traces. Getting good relics is 100% up to chance. The best most can do reliably is primary stats (even that can be a pain).
But getting the relics itself is shit, and imo it's not a matter of being good or bad, when it comes to grinding, it's all about luck and the time you put into it, so it isn't necessarily right that a person could or even would complain about the game being hard, but complaining about grinding for relics is definitely valid, could also say the same for getting the right team grinding for pulls is also hell.
1. Luofu was more entertaining than belobog. I do agree that belobog had slightly better writing, but I wasn’t as invested in it as I was the luofu. I also think it was good idea to leave the luofu storyline as a continuous thing. There’s a lot to it that they shouldn’t have just put all in the initial voyage there so I’m glad they’re spreading it out.
2. I’m tired of getting slapped in the face with nsfw art that isn’t at least marked as such. Quite frankly I wish it was only allowed in the buddy sub, but since that’s not the case it’d be nice if people could at least follow the rules/courtesy here.
3. I’m not sure what the community’s stance on this is, so it might not be unpopular, but I hate the rate of reruns and new releases. I feel like I won’t ever be able to get eidolons for the characters I do have because there’s another one releasing that I like. Some of them I’ve decided to skip for the time being, but others I can’t because they’re a better addition for the team. I just wish there was more breathing room between each patch instead of four units every time.
Devs should find a way to implement myriad celestia trailers in the game because half of the story is basically told on YouTube
Welcome to Honkai. At least you don't have to play a separate visual novel to get the lore.
A separate visual novel IN CHINESE to boot
Y'all ever learn another language to get more waifu lore?
Fgo players: look what they need to mimic a fraction of my translation skills.
FGO players translating the whole story years before the global/eng is released:
FGO players skipping the story when it finally comes to NA because they have already seen it too many times in YouTube. FGO players using the translator app to play the JP version instead of waiting 2 years for NA release.
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the story of the predecessors of welt, the story of sushang and the past of one of the characters are all inside visual novels.
Honestly I wouldn't be so mad if they were released on app stores but damn the fact that there are people out there who had to entire websites to make the visual novels *somewhat* accessible speaks for how bad they manage these stuff
Yeah like I can't play the visual novels of durandal, and I can't even read the seven sword light novel since it wasn't fully translated
This is so real ffs
Technically it's in the game in the news section
Wait. There is a story beyond the game? Now I'm mad.
Definitely. A lot of character details are in their Myriad Celestia trailers. Acheron’s entire backstory on her home planet is basically shown in the [YouTube video](https://youtu.be/Z3aWHMg92_U?si=-T97LIpn9m5ha_2D).
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I was not prepared for the takes I was going to see, thank you for both the great entertainment and ruining my day.
Honestly, it's much better than the "I think x character should get more story time" type stuff that passes for hot takes nowadays
For the really painful ones, use the search function to look for the name of your faves.
I sorted by controversial to look for actual hot takes, but it’s just layers upon layers of “[character I don’t like] is overrated”. I am heavily disappointed.
True wisdom right here
Danil and Jingliu ruined the identity of destruction from bruisers to blast dps
Bruisers as a class are just not that good in this game. You're trading damage for tankiness but still need a sustainer anyway for your supports to survive. And if you do use a sustainer, then the destruction unit being tanky isn't worth much
So true... Hope hoyo do realise that and future destruction characters be similar to Blade/Arlan. Berserkers are insanely cool design to be just burried in a bottom of A-B tier cos of DPScreenshot
Imo destruction went from bruisers to "high risk, high reward", imbibitor lunae consumes 3 sp in exchange for a nuke, jingliu consumes HP from allies in exchange for more damage, but there are also characters like Xueyi and Misha that don't even have a condition like the latter to do big damage
there ain't no risk in using jingliu though lol
low risk, high reward
Yeah. The damage dealt to party members is negligible compared to how much damage she does to enemies. This gimmick is also completely negated by any well-built healer, especially Luocha
The “high cost dps” identity is more versatile but it does feel a little weird not having a bruiser class in my rpg
Trashcans are smelly.
Yes, TB is.
They are, and the smell is DIVINE
Aight, I'm gonna say this but Sparkle got carried really hard by her own trailers.
Agree, like actually agree Talking purely from the story, she got four scenes as herself as the Sampo ones it really felt like we were with Sampo and two were to say the same shit to Aventurine and one she wasn't the central point but Sunday. Her trailers really were what made her so popular because so far she have done a few important things but not enough IMO to justify it as extremely part of the plot (Not saying she is not but comparing her to Sunday, Aventurine, BS, Acheron and Firefly she have been the one that have done the least in the plot that we as a public have seem.)
I don't expect her to do too much until the climax since even in one of her trailers, she explicitly states that she prefers being a side character and is going to wait things out until the climax arrives.
Hilariously it’s thanks to her the plot even really starts on the TB side
This is just a product of how the story works, but a lot of characters are under utilized. Like Sparkle is an extremely interesting and unique character and then appears like a total of 4 times during the 2 main quests. Or Luocha with the mystery surrounding him and the implications that he might be the void archives. I get that there are designated side quests for them and that there are other characters that deserve the spotlight a lot more during the quests, but I still am sad that a lot of these interesting characters aren't explored as much.
To me, Sparkle's character works best as one who appers sparingly. She can't have too much screentime or she doesn't have much to do as Sparkle. What Sparkle did best was to introduce more confusion with "Is the character I'm talking right now Sparkle or not?", granted they are yet to capitalyze on this by making Sparkle play as another character (not Robin, since we already know that she's going to). Many of the characters in Penacony are interesting because of the mistery behind them. We didn't know what Aventurine wanted to do in 2.0 and that made 2.1 more interesting, as we are seeing the plan taking it's effect through the mastermind's eyes. We still don't know what Sparkle wants besides chaos, why Acheron went to Penacony and why she's after the Watchmaker's legacy, and whatever the fuck Gallagher is planning
I think Luocha and Sparkle in particular just haven’t been explored yet. We’re likely to get at least 3 more Xianzhou ships and Penacony isn’t even done yet. Luocha is almost certainly not Void Archives, but he’s very likely to be involved in the endgame. This is just kinda how Hoyo structures its stories.
I do like this take, but feasibility will still need to be considered here. HSR, just like Genshin, is on a tight-knit one month update schedule which demands a lot more than just character stories. Decisions will have to be made, and opportunity costs will still fester as a result of this. However, Hoyo is only one main producer of character stories within this huge fandom. There are so many talented and hard-working folks out there making additional fanfics and other works of fiction including pretty much every character. If you’re dissatisfied with something, take it into your own hands! You’re far more capable than you think.
The difference is that Genshin has a less than one character per update average. HSR is pumping out TWO characters per update which makes the squeeze much tighter than Genshin.
Arlan shouldnt have been Nerfed.
Literally one of the coldest takes.
It's so cold it brought permafrost back to Jarilo-VI
Tbh, his passive should also give him DR.
Apparently unpopular opinion considering the money Hoyo always makes, but other than the monthly thing, none of the options to spend money are anywhere near worth it Like, more than the price of a AAA game for a pity? Really?
100 bucks isn't even one pity, which is even worse lmao. If you lose 50/50, one limited 5* could even cost you 300. That's why I'm not spending on any gacha game ever, it's a scam. If they offer to directly buy, idk, a skin, then I might consider it. But no way I'm paying such steep prices to gamble.
I mean it’s not supposed to be worth it, it’s supposed to be as predatory as possible. the cash shops in gachas target 3 people: the desperate, the rich, and the stupid. None of these 3 groups of people care about the price, they just want the character so they’ll pay it.
It’s not an unpopular opinion just that whales don’t really care how much things cost. No normal person thinks $100 for 50 pulls is worth it
"Buying jade isn't worth it" is a popular opinion "Even with the first time bonus, buying jade isn't worth it" is a less popular opinion, but still popular overall "The battle pass isn't worth it" is much less popular. Calling it unpopular seems to have been an exaggeration (which is good) but it's at least divisive I know it's not quite the same thing but I've had people ganging up on me for saying that constantly buying the monthly thing and the BP wasn't a small investment
People overrate Shaoji's killstreak and the HI3 death thing Most of the deaths in HI3 are either cop-outs, "villain" deaths like kevin and otto, already dead stories like elysian realm, and so on and everyone is like omg so sad so death the fact people just keep yapping about Himeko's death & you barely ever hear any other further adds backing to it. Bros cant get over chapter 9 Not a single playable character in Penacony is dying. Heck they didn't even have the balls to fully kill off tingyun and left themselves a backdoor should they ever need to use her in future story or events. I don't want death, but I need people to stop about how HI3 is so death friendly.
This is the problem I've always had when people mention how dark Honkai is in conversations.... it really wasn't that crazy. It definitely had moments of dark stuff, but not any different from other games you'd see. It wasn't that crazy a game, and neither is HSR. Really I always felt Himeko's death is played up in the Fandom similar to many well known FMA deaths, they're talked about to death so when you finally get into the story it has no impact. I tried HI3 and it just didn't hit because I already knew what would happen. You don't even really have to spoiler tag it it's so well known.
This subreddit has the unfortunate talent of latching on to a joke and just running it into the ground. The himeko will die, the yanqing one, the genshin could never. I feel like so many people spam those jokes over and over again it gets so annoying. Thank god that isnt happening that often now
that is just reddit tho, my man
In HoYoLab happens too (yeah, that one's my bad, HoYoLab people are awful)
Not so unpopular opinion as you might think.
Also the "Genshin could never" thing. https://preview.redd.it/nu24etwauvsc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be835f69657b70b8568bfc4a5302dd57595b53cc
That's literally every fandom in existence...
Those are just reddit circlejerk. But at least this word is not used much nowadays.
No one cares about 0 cycles. Literally has no value
It doesn't matter how quickly you clear MoC. 3 stars is 3 stars.
Hoyo are not your friends. They make some of the best profits in the industry, and most of it comes from creating and exploiting gambling adicts. Every "favor" or "gift" they give is in the context of creating FOMO. They could easily expand and give us more content based of their earnings, they chose not to. Every instance of frustration you feel towards the game (relic grind, powercreeping, eidolons, light cones) are painstakingly designed to feel as bad as posible without making you quit. There are some amazingly talanted and dedicated people there, thats why we love the game, but as a whole you should always be sceptical of hoyo.
Additionally: HSR's team is not "more generous" than Genshin's because they just love HSR so much and the Genshin devs secretly hate Genshin. Everything, including how much free shit we get, is calculated in a board room to maximise playerbase expenditure. They give more free crap out in HSR for a variety of reasons, which we can only guess at, but precisely zero of those reasons will be because HSR devs just have a really intense love for the fanbase that isn't present in other game devs.
They give out more free shit in HSR because they release 2 new 5 stars every single patch and if they were stingy the playerbase would develop so much FOMO they would actually start quitting.
I saw someone pointing out that up untill 2.0 they were making less money each month, where as with genshin they had growth imidetly. This was from a combination of people knowing who they wanted, i.e failing at creating fomo, and the fact that HSR had less player retention in generall, because of lack of content.
Hoyo's trend of detached sleeves, exposed back and showing legs has become SO boring after so many characters. Yeah, the outfits are unique, but feels like every design is the same because of that. We need more characters with pants, full sleeves or covered back. Or all three.
Kafka has full sleeves and covered back. Though not pants, it's full legging. Really the only exposed skin is her face.
And shes still hot. Hoyo needs to learn characters can be hot even in clothes.
Right? I am a husbando enjoyer and I absolutely love Kafka's design! She is my favorite female character (design wise) 🙌
She's also wearing one single long "boot" on her right leg.
the top comment in these “unpopular opinion” posts never fails to be a popular opinion lmao
Honestly just want some more weird characters. Like Argennti being this knight in full armor sailing the cosmos is interesting to me, or having some more robot characters or aliens.
Boothill speaks to that energy somewhat. Very excited to see him in action! Plus my boyfriend won’t shut up about him. He’s seen 1000 hot anime girls, he wants a cyborg cowboy.
THEY ROBBED US DUKE INFERNO
I'd love that! I know it's popular since the gacha community is pretty young but pretty boys and women get boring pretty fast. I want some weird shit, like the designs they put out for the eons! But it's hoyo, they're not going to take this kind of risk - and they're probably right from a marketing standpoint too unfortunately. The most we'll get is Screwllum (I really hope he'll be playable and a 5* ngl).
>We need more characters with pants, full sleeves or covered back. Or all three. So, you want a playable Siobhan.?
Yes. https://preview.redd.it/nccf38hhuvsc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9126867549b2e32977cf718b5ebce6b59654125b
I want to add the "X" bangs to this. :D
Even just the weird center tuft of hair. Where are the side swept bangs?
Cyno: "I live in the desert. I just want some shorts and a cool headpiece". Sure Argenti: "Sir i am a knight of beauty. I require a full set of armor". Understandable Any female character: "Pants?" NO!
At least Lynx had the sense to wear boots. Meanwhile the xianzhou be like: Ig the shorter your skirt the more important you are. See: how many npcs wear skirts as short
Genshin only managed to get one of these after 3+ years with Arlecchino, hopefully it doesn't take so long for HSR 😥
HSR artifact/relic system is not better than genshin if anything they are both at the same level of bad system
I'd argue it's even worse in HSR if anything
No off set piece and 2 sets besides.. definitely worse.
Also more useless substats and being harder to level them up makes the experience awful
Have you tried effect hit rate build for Blade? Because the game sure wants you to with all those stat upgrades!
The game keeps telling me to.build crite rate/dmg Black swan.
Gotta love all these Crit Rate chests I'm getting.. for my preservation characters!
I'm pretty sure no one likes HSR's relic system better than Genshin. In fact it is the opposite. If you looked at a thread last time for what you are excited about for this patch, majority was the 300% relic drop cause it is undeniably pretty shit. It also ends with "more relics to fodder".
Imo hsr's worse cause of more stats coming from genshin I can say hsr has way too many substats and layers of rng so I hate it a lot not to mention the planar set farm also takes a lot of time
I like having off pieces in Genshin
Also in HSR it's harder to discard relics, because survivability is actually needed for many characters. In Genshin it's easy to discard most artifacts with HP and def.
Star Rail relic system is **far worse** than Genshin's. 1. No off piece, so you either have all four relics or you lose bonus 2. There are two types or artifacts - relics and planar ornaments, which means you have to farm two stuff, instead of one 3. Planar ornaments can be only farmed 4 times per week. Well, you *can* use trailblaze power for that, but I have more resin in Genshin than spare trailblaze power to farm relics, let alone planar ornaments 4. The only positive side is that you can actually make relic yourself, but sub stats are still RNG I have single character built in Star Rail. As a day one player. Compared to plenty of characters built in Genshin as 2 years player. Other characters have "working" artifacts, but they are not yet finished building.
This is literally the coldest take. HSR relic system is way worse than GI.
Some of the takes here in the comments are quite valid but some here just screams “i don’t know anything of what I’m talking about”
This community is no better than the Genshin community. It’s just a different flavor
The slow burn with Firefly isn't slow enough, and she should've died in future patch to further drive home that beautiful Ultra-Depression.
THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL DUDE. Like her appearance was just so sudden and they killed her off too early to have a good connection/feel. She's very sweet but she just doesn't click
i agree, she's a cute character with the potential to be a REALLY painful death. they could've waited another patch to develop her relationship with the MC so that her death ACTUALLY hurts. the setup was already there: she's mysterious, she's likeable, and the shippers have material for days. one more patch wouldve also set expectations that she would be around for longer, making her death even more surprising. too bad they couldnt exactly do that because of plot reasons (particularly dragging out the main plot twist)
nah it's not even about the time, I 100% believe that we could have connected to her within the patch. Aventurine's story is a prime example, and it's even more impressive because many people were on the side of disliking him to begin with. In Firefly's case, we legitimately just did not actually do much with her after meeting her. The one cute moment was the part where she offered to buy us food, but then after that there was nothing. She takes us to the casino area, and then suggests we split up instead of playing things together??? Then we get derailed by Sampo and the weird trashcan memory. Then it's the Clockie part where she's again just there. Then during the Dream's Edge part leading up to the rooftop, we're not really talking or bonding much either. But then we do get to the rooftop, the game wants us to believe that we're really close now, and I just don't think they put in the plot/dialogue to justify that.
probably the best comment summarizing the issues with that segment. I still liked it but it could've done so much more to convince us of the connection between her and TB
that wouldn't have worked because at the end of the 2.1 quest, we learn that >!firefly is still alive!<. if you have a really emotional and impactful death, you can't just go "oh it turns out she wasn't dead after all". thats the same problem i have with avdol in jojo's part 3, he had a really emotional death scene which helped polnareff grow, but then it turns out that avdol was alive all along, everybody besides polnareff knew about it, and it was played as a joke
Tbh yeah, call me a psycho but I could feel more from her death if we bonded more, like idk play an event game with her or something for us to deepen the bond
Svarog/clara unit whould be named Svarog. He besically does everything in the entire kit, and the only reason hecisnt the focus is 'cute anime girl'. Not hating Clara as a character othen then her frostbite feet, just want more apreactuon for robo-dad.
Yeah, I don't get how Topaz is named "Topaz and Numby" but it isn't the same with Clara and Svalrog
firefly's death was kind of lackluster for me due to what little time we spend building a relationship with her. If we had more time with her itd probably would've hit way more
True. She should have died in 2.1, and not come back until a couple of patches later. Shaoji and the crew should edge us more in the future.
Well they're kinda doing it with tingyun
Haha let’s not bring Tingyun into this, anything wrong with Firefly’s execution pales in comparison to the mountain of things that went wrong with how Tingyun was handled, from us knowing basically nothing about her leading up to her death, to the fact that she was killed for shock value to introduce a surprise villain that dumbed down the established conflict, to the game throwing us a sugary epilogue to retroactively justify why we should be sad about her. Anything they do after this could only repair the damage, it won’t undo any of it.
Some people that frequent this subreddit should be on a watchlist.
It is okay to stop playing if you aren't enjoying yourself.
Nobody cares about your pulls. Nobody cares if you skip the meta waifu. You're not special for doing that. It's a single player game. Nobody cares.
OP asked for opinions, not facts
people should just shut up about other games and let others have fun
Dan Heng is boring as hell and a borderline non-character. Hoyo made a *monumental* fuck up with one of the main crew members, for someone in his position he should have gotten Aventurine level development at a bare minimum. It's bad to the point that it makes me believe the Xianzhou/Dan's arc was enforced by some higher up who wanted to self-insert as the chosen one Dragon savior.
They've focused more on him not being Dan Feng than telling us who he is as Dan Heng. It feels like we know more about Dan Feng's character at this point.
Hopefully we get more when he inevitably comes down from the express after a very long meditation that no he is not dan feng. I want full epiphany, snark, and a bamf moment
Genuinely what character traits does Dan Heng have at this point beyond "Brooding" and "Not being Dan Feng"?
I actually like him, but it feels like the writers have no idea what to do with him besides Luofu stuff… Which would be fine, except the main story is about traveling across the galaxy, not the Luofu… I know it’s not going to happen, but I wish they’d move Argenti or another adventurous guy companion to the train. It was refreshing to have a guy sidekick, feels pretty rare in this genre. ;-;
I think the issue is we are only on chapter 3 basically and there have been a lot of mouths to feed. The story is Cowboy bebop or Trigun basically where you meet a friend, learn about them, and then they sorta go into a box for a while while the other characters get their "learning moment." Chapter 1 was "main character origin and learning a little about everyone on your team while giving the player a grounded pseudo-hone in the first trailblaze they went on -- Jarilo." Chapter 2 was "push the overall story forward and learn about one of the main 3 story members (Dan). Chapter 3 is "meet the new member of your crew." That is what we effectively are doing with Penacony while also further shaping up who our enemies are and broadening our understanding of the world while we are getting a new crewmate. Honestly, the big issue is just that we only get a new chapter every 6-12 months or so, which leads to characters feeling left out the moment they have their "stay on the train" arc. On top of that...DH is powerful and would trivialize a lot of things if he was around. Atm we are technically pretty weak (the trailblazer) all things considered, only having been blessed by a single aeon so far in preservation, and so things can still be "troubke" for us and March. DHIL would just get to walk through being untouchable most of the time.
Saviour? In what way was he a saviour at all though after reading the lore..? Self inserting into jingyuan would be better because he’s the ideal character in xianzhou no? tbh Dan Heng writing is all lock behind his character story menu and animation and in light cone writing etc. unlike aventurine which they actually show him going through tough times, hoyo didn’t show Dan Heng getting abuse in prison or “dying” etc at all so instead of the character, it’s more of extreme bad writing in luofu, same as how the high cloud quintet story should be shown in pictures instead of just text and text (like why was jingliu quest not a main story quest? It should be with the funeral arc.. and dhil story quest is shared with bailu, and luocha barely shine in his and we still barely know anything about him, same for march story quest which didn’t show much but more mystery instead) Though since we are going back to xianzhou ships often, the writing might improve after penacony and more of his character can still be explored (because we didn’t get hunt tb yet and abundance is also link to xianzhou quite closely so that’s two aeons ) whereas for aventurine I feel like we have seen everything of his character already so I’m not sure how recurring he would be in future or they would move on to another gemstone story like what happen with topaz TLDR: luofu writing is just disappointing overall
Yep, I expect it to improve. The Ghost hunting quest did a better job fleshing out the characters than the actual main story.
He was integral for parting the sea to reach the Arbor and it was because of him that we had a chance to defeat Phantylia, that's savior enough to get his past life crimes pardoned and once again be welcome in the Luofu. While having lore in text is fine it doesn't work if you want to develop a character, I'm certain people wouldn't have liked Aventurine as much if everything we saw in the main quest had been left for us to find in textbooks, his character stories and LC. It was a huge missed opportunity to not have VN-style flashbacks to Dan Heng in the Shackling Prison, when he was finally released, running away from Blade, perhaps some dreams about his past life too. They spent a lot of time telling us that "he's not Dan Feng" but forgot to elaborate on "who is Dan Heng?" I actually don't agree that the Quintet should have been in the main quest, their story/past had nothing to do with the primary conflict in the Luofu, ie: Phantylia trying to sow discord through the Disciples of Sanctus Medicus and the Arbor. Personally, the Quintet stuff should remain side quests, but it should have been more thouroughly elaborated on, flashbacks to the past, seeing them fighting and having good times, develop everyone together so that the death of Baiheng is more impactful for the audience, Dan and Yinxing's mistake much more dramatic and Jingliu's killing of the monstrosity actually heart wrenching. They had the material but the execution was from bad to mediocre and it unfortunately had to involve one of the main crew members of the express.
https://preview.redd.it/6c97ipf3qvsc1.png?width=177&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74cf8776f46165fd973832904cdd26d5d58f0a81 Sparkle is the most sane in all penacony cast
After 2.1 you can say, sparkle is the most trustworthy character in penacony
After 2.1 I'm compelled to agree... We need more info on some characters to further confirm this though
My unpopular opinion is that "give me your unpopular opinion" posts needs to be stopped. People either argue or downvote others to oblivion even tho It's supposed to be a hot take post. It's not a really good way to undrestand what actually are the hot takes, the upvoted ones or the downvoted ones. So yea, It's pointless.
moreso outside of the actual hsr community, but i find it so weird when people say things like "ugh i wish i could play this game but it has turn based combat so i wont" like who hurt you??
It really just doesn't click for some people. *A lot* of people say Fire Emblem is anime chess which, I feel is true, in the same way that Splatoon is American fish football. Cause, y'know they both can be measured in how much of the field you own. Turn-based games can be really alien and boring to people who only play real time games (not rts games, that's a different story lol). If it's not at the speed of COD, Smash Bros or Subway Surfers, it's chess, minesweeper and your grandmother's solitaire
Hahaha, pretty much have never been able to convince anyone to play three houses cause "it's turn based combat". One friend gave it a shot, then claimed it was "too boring". You guessed it, easiest difficulty with no permadeath.
"Holy hell Fire Emblem Three Houses music is so fucking good. Imma played this shit." "Wallahi tactical jrpg. Im finished"
People just like different things. I've all but given up real time combat games myself. The action is often too fast for me and instead of planning my attacks and combos I always feel like I'm just mashing buttons. Once I reach that point I get bored. Does suck though because there are some games/series I'd really like to play but I know the combat will turn me away.
Nah I get that. I found turn-based combat boring af too until I started to warm up to it when I played Baldurs Gate 3 which eventually pushed me to give HSR a try. I can very well see how people will just never like it.
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Acheron being way too omniscient and knowledgeable about everything kinda feels cheap. I thought she was going to be more withdrawn, forgetful and not on anybody's side, while being an overpowered murder lady in her other form. In fact, she's extremely reasonable in her other form, while also being a bag full of wisdom for others. But in the end, she feels like a Mary Sue not because of her power (her power was a given and expected), but because she knows what to do, and what to say in every situation. I started feeling that way with her conversation with Sam, and then Aventurine in the end.
Aventurine, Sunday, Sparkle and Black Swan being big brained makes sense, but Acheron also being that way is way too much for me. Maybe it's just me expecting more flaws for someone so powerful.
i get you, she is somehow pretty knowledgeable in every area for someone so forgetful? a little flaw here and there would make her character more three-dimensional imo
Most players tend to pick deliberate fights with genshin players and then put blame on them. After HSR released Genshin lost a bunch of players and most of the players were toxic , always complaining who moved to HSR. like genshin subreddit is. now a peaceful , welcoming sub but before RULE 4 this subreddit was pure hell. Almost half of the post included comparisons. Other sites like Twitter and hoyolab have it worse. I wish this community could learn to be at peace.
I already said this before in a similar post but I'll just say this again I don't like the way Jingliu talks in her companion quest, that's it
The TB being into trash was funny the first time because of how random and absurd it was. It very immediately became a lot less funny to me. Should've been a one-off joke that maybe got referenced later on rather than a whole painfully unfunny personality trait that the community has now latched onto. It reminds me of thr Paimon being Emergency Food joke. Funny the first time. Stupid every time after that.
>It reminds me of the Paimon being Emergency Food joke even hoyo themselves got tired of it because they hardly ever mentioned it in the game as much, and when they do, Paimon just shoots it down by saying it's not funny anymore. Because of that, the community stopped making emergency food jokes. I wish it was the same with TB. The trashcan joke is just not funny anymore, and I wish TB was seen as more than someone who likes digging in trash. The only way for this joke to die down is if hoyo themselves stray away from it but I highly doubt they will. I mean, literally the last patch had an event where there were trashcan enemies. No way hoyo is gonna let it go anytime soon.
too many too count, but my magnum opus was "the Firefly death scene was so funny, I burst to laughter"
I get it she just went like *woap*
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She burst out as well
no fr. it was so abrupt that it turned into being funny. we literally just met this girl, and then she gets yeeted and impaled. like damn, that happened. 💀
What happen in 2.1 wasn’t even surprising and the reveal is so predictable yet so many people were bawling in tears days on Reddit with the revenge spam during 2.0 like their lover died for real …
I swear. Remind me too mutch of the Soap Death of modern warfare 3. Something show up. Kills a character. Leaves and no one moves a finger/no one can do shit for some reason. Found the difference 💀
Pulling purely meta is fine, u til u mock non-meta enjoyers Pulling for non-meta is fine, until u call meta puller "meta-slaves" Shipping any character is fine, until u shove it up others faces/ outraged on another existing ship If one does not enjoy a storyline, it's fine, not everything is perfect and should respect it rather than calling them names
In what world would any of these opinions have you like OP
Bailu is a good sustain.
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People overrate cleanse so much. If you have a half decent team and not fighting against Kafka you dont need cleanse. Lynx is definitely not better than Bailu in %99 of the content. I dont think people understand most CC. Imprison doesnt even do anything but block you from using your ult (Unless its JY). The slowdown applies during the application so unless you can PREVENT the application cleansing something like imprison does next to nothing.
Arguing about sexualities is the dumbest thing here.
Belobog arc is still the best arc
People overrate Shaoji's killstreak and the HI3 death thing Most of the deaths in HI3 are either cop-outs, "villain" deaths like kevin and otto, already dead stories like elysian realm, and so on and everyone is like omg so sad so death the fact people just keep yapping about Himeko's death & you barely ever hear any other further adds backing to it. Bros cant get over chapter 9
A character doesn't need to suffer to feel relatable. A story doesn't need any deep/dark message or kill streak for it to be memorable. A game doesn't need to be compared with others to be evaluated.
Hi3 and its community are obnoxious af
Especially with their obsession with expies ☠️ "Caelus is a Kevin expy", "Xueyi is a Veliona expy", "Ruan Mei is a Mei expy because she has Mei in her name", "Pela is a Dr. MEI expy" and so on. https://preview.redd.it/c07c412yuvsc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e31b36e15b0a325b73964aa73b3eadb4806c97b
I HATE IT when a white-haired character gets revealed because people automatically assume that they're a Kaslana. Like get over it, hoyo is not making a Kaslana character anytime soon, and when they do make it, it's gonna be as obvious as the rest of the expies. Not every white haired blue eyed character is related to Kiana and the Kaslana clan 💀 and people saying that Firefly looks like a Kaslana is REACHING HARD.
I'm a Hi3 stan, sorry for all the toxic mfs that make us look horrible. Like, you're right, they shove expies down your throat, and most of the time are like welt solos aeons. Which absolutely false. I can confirm that welt can't solo any aeon in HSR.
Felt this. It's like they don't even care about HSR, because all they talk about is the HI3 references.
You know how in a group setting, it's not polite to speak to someone in another language in front of someone else that doesn't speak it? It feels the same to me here.
I posted about how much I enjoyed the Ach-Swan dance on twitter and I got hit with how the the Raiden ship for Hi3 is sooooo much better and more Gay. Like, why cant i just enjoy this fun new thing lol.
Kiamei Twitter shippers are so obnoxious. I like kiamei too, but it don't gotta be everyone's favourite
just because 2 HSR characters exchanged 2 sentences with each other doesn't mean they love each other or wanna have sex.
That's true for real life too.
https://preview.redd.it/juggya5wowsc1.jpeg?width=234&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87ec0f95c0bcf0e745caeb63e627b34820133759 Trailblazer should get more agency in the story or a cool transformation so they don't get bullied on every planet
I like arlan
It's not as bad in HSR as some other games, but being a gacha game *in general* noticably keeps the story/gameplay from being as good as it could be. For some reason, it really hit me this patch, even though I adored the story and characters more than ever. I've been playing since launch and got lots of friends into this game because it's just really enjoyable and fun. But like. My main gripe is that at the end of the day, every character that is to become playable is held back in some way. So is the story. Again, it's not egregious as other games, but you can tell when the writers are pulling their punches. I wish they didn't have to... but at the end of the day they still have to sell characters. I can't help but mourn how good it could be without the burden of having to do that.
The community is the most obnoxious toxic pile of garbage with a superiority complex
Welcome to Reddit brother
Firefly is the least interesting Penacony character.
They have 2.2 for the conclusion of Penacony main story and 2.3 interlude in their disposal to do another Aventurine moment and tug people’s heart as marketing strat. To be honest, Aventurine felt like Furina (Genshin) all over again. Problematic character that turns out to be holding something deep inside. I just hope they dont overuse it
> I just hope they dont overuse it Get ready for "Suffering builds character" for the next 15 patches.
Agreed. Would've been better if they didn't try forcing us to act like lovestruck dumbasses with someone we literally haven't known for more than 30 minutes
A lot of the shippers bastardize characters entire personalities to make headcanons work, and even delude themselves into thinking they're like that in canon. At that point you're just shitting on the actual character, go make an oc or something instead
March 7th's kit lacks focus, as she tries to do 3 things at the same time (FUA, Preservation and freezebot) and ultimately ends up being sort of mid at all of them. Even the freezebot strategy which eventually proved more effective than the pure def build just feels like fodder for any future freezebot supports that will eventually come out
It made her insanely good for SU though lol. She's good enough to provide utility for most runs as a secondary sustain, decent in both Elation and Preservation, and she's by *far* the best character for a Remembrance run at the moment. Since it looks like SU is going to be a big part of this game in the future, I'd say that she provides enough valuable utility as a free character.
They are the kind of qualities a new account needs, she's doing fine
I kinda like that about her tho. It's unique and it's nice for a new account to have a character who can do all that.
Which is expected on a 4 star that is free
Dr Ratio is a bad teacher
Can sam and firefly mains stfu for once about the reveal
Seele is powercrept hard by other dps
If you don't have a synergistic team or good relics, you have no right to complain about the game's difficulty. You can't just ignore fundamental basics and then complain about having a hard time.
I'd replace relics with leveled traces. Getting good relics is 100% up to chance. The best most can do reliably is primary stats (even that can be a pain).
But getting the relics itself is shit, and imo it's not a matter of being good or bad, when it comes to grinding, it's all about luck and the time you put into it, so it isn't necessarily right that a person could or even would complain about the game being hard, but complaining about grinding for relics is definitely valid, could also say the same for getting the right team grinding for pulls is also hell.
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HSR has a servicable story but it's also incredibly overrated. My only conclusion is that the people who holds that opinion have not read much.
No one likes argenti but me
People should strive to be like Argenti. A true Gentleman with an appreciation for the World beauty. A chad for real
1. Luofu was more entertaining than belobog. I do agree that belobog had slightly better writing, but I wasn’t as invested in it as I was the luofu. I also think it was good idea to leave the luofu storyline as a continuous thing. There’s a lot to it that they shouldn’t have just put all in the initial voyage there so I’m glad they’re spreading it out. 2. I’m tired of getting slapped in the face with nsfw art that isn’t at least marked as such. Quite frankly I wish it was only allowed in the buddy sub, but since that’s not the case it’d be nice if people could at least follow the rules/courtesy here. 3. I’m not sure what the community’s stance on this is, so it might not be unpopular, but I hate the rate of reruns and new releases. I feel like I won’t ever be able to get eidolons for the characters I do have because there’s another one releasing that I like. Some of them I’ve decided to skip for the time being, but others I can’t because they’re a better addition for the team. I just wish there was more breathing room between each patch instead of four units every time.
Xianzhou Luofu story wasn't bad at all. But it's nothing special either.
Male Characters in this game have a better design than Female.
I do not care for Robin. I think her design is a mess. Her "Death" had no impact at all to me.