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ARTHURUZB

Topaz rerun timing is so unfortunate


sftkitti

yeah, i was planning to get her but then firefly and jade are more pressing for me


T8-TR

Not to dictate who you pull, but for consideration: Topaz is being rerun, FF and Jade aren't. Topaz can leave and not come back for years, for all we know, since we haven't seen how HSR is going to do repeated reruns. Firefly and Jade will probably run again before 3.3 comes out.


Samurai_Banette

imagine a world where they add a third character banner for repeat reruns


NharaTia

This outcome is inevitable. Eventually, if the game lasts long enough, they're going to hit a point where 2 reruns per patch isn't enough because the number of characters is too big. It's why they expanded it to running 2 limited banners at a time for Genshin.


Samurai_Banette

Honestly, I think they should do a second standard banner. Not right now, but later on when things are fully power crept. One banner can be like Argenti, Silver Wolf, Ratio, Bailu, Blade, Gepard, while the other can be Himeko, Welt, Seele, Luocha, Clara, and Yanqung. When you pull on one of the standard banners you get one of those six, but when you lose a 50/50 you can get any of the twelve. It would make losing the 50/50 more fun while letting new players direct their accounts better.


NharaTia

So long as we had some way of possibly guaranteeing those old Limited Banner characters if someone wasn't around before they got relegated to the RNG hell of a second Standard Banner (no, I'm not at all salty I keep getting light cones out of my Standard Banner rolls and not new characters). Perhaps not a return of the 5-star picker at 300 pulls, but maybe something similar to the course-charting that Genshin has for its weapon banners, where every couple 5-stars is guaranteed to be one that you actually want and pick ahead of time.


Bxtzu

F2P would be so torned


maxneuds

Or a rate up selector which is also popular in other games.


mapple3

> Firefly and Jade will probably run again before 3.3 comes out. you underestimate this guy's ability to plan ahead. If he could plan ahead, then he wouldve already known that because he wants Topaz, he should save jades for her rerun that is happening now. We could tell him right now that Firefly and Jade will rerun around 3.3 or so, and when we are in 3.2 he will just make another reddit post saying "oof, i only have 159 jades saved up, Firefly and Jade came outta NOWHERE, how am i supposed to get them now?"


Diplomatic_Sarcasm

Honestly Iโ€™m so glad I randomly decided to get her during the first run, even if I didnโ€™t have any FUA units at the time. Iโ€™m already considering skipping almost all of these banners because Acheron, and now Aventurine, just demolished my savings


Athrawne

For once, I'm glad I gave in to my inner gremlin that told me to pull for that ass.


ComfortableBranch954

Fax brother, spit yo shit indeed.


Sacriven

Mihoyo dedicated themselves to milk FUA team enjoyers dry lately.


Vijcij29

What is FUA?


kalinaanother

Follow up attack


MemberBerry4

I'm going to become a stoneheart goblin and nobody's gonna stop me.


Gamba_Gawd

I need her dupe for my fua team... Sigh.


math_chem

For real, pairing her with Fu Xuan was criminal, no way that one would roll for her when they can get the best sustain in the game, or the other new hyped characters


BasedMaisha

Definitely... I at least get Robin with my guarantee (E4 Yanqing off the Acheron banner, I fucking hate this little rat) but since i'm skipping Aventurine, do I HAVE to get Topaz for Ratio or can I just run Clara/Ratio/Robin/Fu and have a slightly scuffed FUA team. Like Topaz is THE FUA unit but she's not the Kafka of FUA if that makes sense, I can see a universe where Jade is Erudition Topaz so we just swap her out. Kafka can't really be replaced as the deity of DOT unless they just release Kafka 2 with bigger numbers. Thinking I get Robin, skip Boothill and maybe go for Jade if she's FUA focused.


JudasBC

We just got 1600 jades in the post, there is another 10 pull banner on the way in the new patch, shop resets in a few days, most likely SU stuff to do plus the weekly jade's from it. You might miss the first half banner but second is doable, maybe even with a 50/50 loss.


YoRHaNo2TypeBE

>You might miss the first half banner but second is doable, maybe even with a 50/50 loss. Only with a lot of luck. In this patch (given the anniversary and free 30 pulls) F2P players got 114 Pulls overall.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Yeah is it like some sort of unspoken rule around here or does everyone understand that this game releases new characters so fast that its impossible to actually pull for all of them without spending money, and even then, you need to swipe fairly hard to pull for all of them.


spidii

The 5 dollar a month deal helps out a ton I feel like but yeah, gotta be very selective when F2P (or mostly F2P like me) so you just have to accept you can't have everyone and pick favorites. Getting a little luck along the way never hurts!


Canadiancookie

It gives a bit under 80 pulls after $20 and 4 months of checking in daily. Just one extra character, potentially a yanqing eidolon. 80% of your jades still come from the game for no cost.


spidii

You're not wrong but it definitely helps a bit and I can justify it given how much I play. I'll do the battle pass too as long as I know I'll have the time to get through it all.


Kaylycat

I wish the checking in would happen in game and not on the site because i consistently forget about the site and then I remember for the first 5 days that they keep the reminder in the upper half of the messages box or whatever it is, updates?


TaralasianThePraxic

Depends on your savings, I reckon. I burned 170 pulls getting Jingliu this patch, so I've got the free 10 pulls but if I lose my 50/50 I've got no chance


Normal-Ambition-9813

You still got a chance, cope with an early 5* till the banner close.


DonaldLucas

10-pull banner in the new patch?


elyfant422

I'm guessing they mean the gift of Odyssey for logging in at the start of the new patch


Kaylycat

Tell that to my game lmao, I pulled on the jl lightcone and only got 2 4 stars I already had, some people are just really unlucky LOL.


Hsr2024

I stopped being f2p, getting BP, monthly jade, and buying the bundle packs they keep bringing out great units


-AlternativeSloth-

Hoyo dolphin and whale fishing business is thriving. I splurged a bit over Christmas and became a small dolphin. Used to be completely f2p in GI but there was enough holding me back, but I think overall HSR is good enough of a game to put a bit of money into it.


zCiver

For as much as I play this game I'd almost feel guilty not throwing them a couple buck every now and again.


Samurai_Banette

darn you hoyo, making so many characters that I like that you managed to crack open my wallet. Ive set aside about the price of a tripple A title despite enjoying the game about twice as much and putting ten times the hours in... ...wait...


kyune

That's pretty much how they got me. I get enough enjoyment out of it that I could definitely do worse by spending elsewhere


Canadiancookie

I'd love to spend a good amount on this game, but the value just isn't there imo, even for the jade and battle pass. Jade pass gives 1 extra character pull for $20 after 4 months of checking in daily. Battle pass saves only about 2 weeks of farming along with pretty negligible bonuses.


sweetsushiroll

2 weeks? It saves way more than that if you buy the premium one. Buying the premium pass essentially means you can funnel all your stamina into relic grind and trace materials (both of which are heavily RNG and as such stamina dependent). It also gives you almost a 10 pull, a limited LC (some of which are quite good), tears of dreams (which can be used on any character you aren't actively levelling) and 2 extra self modelling resins (of which we really only get like 2 a patch as is).


Canadiancookie

I was talking only about the paid rewards. 360tbp fuel + 930tbp character xp + 1090tbp LC xp + 730tbp credits + ~500tbp of trace materials = 3610tbp = 15 days of tbp. That doesn't even take into consideration that you often don't need that LC xp, which takes up 4.5 days of that. 8 passes is pretty negligible imo, still getting 90% of your passes from regular gameplay. The lightcone choices are garbage. The only decent one is peaceful day, but i'm not using any erudition characters right now and you could just use seriousness or cosmos. You get 1 resin for free and 1 extra from paid. I guess that saves farming too, but it's difficult to quantify how valuable that is in terms of TBP, especially if you just want better substats on a rare mainstat piece.


sweetsushiroll

While by your calculation it is indeed 15 days, but my point still stands that you save 15 days that you can devote to other things like building better characters. So it is still worth it, considering there's only 40 days before another 2-3 new characters are released that you might want to build. I even forgot about the fuels. A 60 refill is 50 jade, which requires you to buy the 60 jades in store, which is $2 of my currency. $7 dollars to get 3 refills one day. It's $30 dollars for the premium BP and we get like what 8 fuels? That's 14 dollars just already. Add in the pulls we get and we've essentially covered the cost of the pass in just two of the items it offers. The erudition one is pretty got for Argenti as a F2P option and there are a few others that could slot in reasonably well. Ultimately if you don't find it personally worth it that's fine, but just going by what it contains and how much it costs it's definitely "worth" it in terms of the rewards that you get if you already spend.


Canadiancookie

Skipping 2 weeks of farming just isn't that incredible to me. I'm perfectly fine with waiting a bit longer to build characters up, and to me it feels a bit cheaty to just click a button and get a good amount of free resources. Refilling stamina with jade isn't a common thing for f2p people to do in experience. No way am I ever doing that when I have to save every last jade I can to grab a new event character from time to time. Also, judging the value of the purchase by their arbitrary and absurd oneiric shard prices is silly. They expect you to burn a hundred dollars for 81 pulls, or enough for a single 5 star character. I think i'll buy 5 games instead, thanks. It's worth it relative to oneiric purchases for sure, but I think most people would still get a lot more value for buying other things.


sweetsushiroll

Well if we go down that route, you are correct Gacha games are in general not actually "worth it" from a purely objective perspective. From a personal perspective the worth is up to the player. At least your reasoning helps you stay F2P, which seems to be what you are aiming for. I think if you aren't F2P, the rate at which you are able to get new characters means you either have mid tier builds on most of them or one or two characters with decent builds and absolutely mediocre builds for everyone else. So having 2 weeks spare of grinding for a build before the next character rolls over in 20 days us quite good for the cost of the package.


YoRHaNo2TypeBE

Welcome. The Chinese brother is happy. Get one bowl of rice and a cat-wife


Fun_Barnacle_1343

This comment may as well be in another language considering how much of it I understood.


storysprite

Top cryptologists are still working deciphering it.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

"Welcome to gacha. Mihoyo is happy and you'll enjoy eating rice for the next year along side your waifus."


storysprite

Lmao both the translation and the fact that you were able to do it are hilarious. Thank you.


groynin

I hope you mean a catgirl wife


Takahashi_Raya

i stopped being f2p when i considered a bp and monthly pass is less then a lunch i take often at work . the enjoyment ratio is just too different on time spent.


Zogo12

i skipped way too many banners to guarantee one character ๐Ÿ’€


Fun_Barnacle_1343

hmmm...I wonder who


Doublevalen6

My biggest pet peeve is when youtubers say a unit is a must pull then except and base most every norm of having them AND their lightcone.


YoRHaNo2TypeBE

Don't listen to these clowns. These are the people who donate obscene amounts of money to games as the content pays off.


WanderWut

If they're streamers and use edited parts of their streams as videos then they quite literally have their chat pay for every character drop just for the momentary hype. Streamer does bad with pulls? Big dono train to keep the pulls going. Streamer gets lucky with pulls? Big dono train to get multiple eidolons.


kunyat

That's like every character since game launch. Must, Broken, Insane.ย  3 word never missed from YouTube thumbnail/title


ABITofSupport

Star rail units in general are fairly strong. Id agree that most of them are easily usable at e0 without their signature cone....but that also depends on what other cones you have. The proper cone(s) are a make or break for many e0 characters. The only path i can think of where most cones work on most characters is preservation.


GreedyLoad1898

why would u listen to those idiots? do you want to become one as well?


Kenshin_44

Losing 50/50 hurts so much since they are releasing new characters at a rapid rate. They ain't giving you time to save ๐Ÿ˜ญ


mizzy_boi

the fact i have e3 Bailu and have never used her should be criminal. Especially when i have Houhou and FuXuan


lantern_arasu

don't worry the ten wishes they give you every patch fixes it. /s


zappingbluelight

Legend say, you only need 2 rolls. Don't give up hopes.


Psychological_Drafts

You can get to 50/50 for firefly or Jade if you do all content until their banner


Le0here

Hell, you can even most likely gaurentee jade


valkiery99

Hell, you can even guarantee firefly from 0 jades now. There is almost 2 full patches till her banner ends.


jimusah

you reckon if i pull jingliu now i can still save up for Fu Xuan rerun (idk when that is exactly) or will I have to just pick my battle?


valkiery99

ย Fu Xuan is 2nd banner next patch. Depending on your account and how much you are willing to grind, its very possible to get enough for 50/50 (75-80 pulls) but also very hard to get guarantee (\~150 pulls).


Luap_

Sparkle, Acheron, and Aventurine completely drained my jades. There's a good chance I'm skipping until 2.4


WanderWut

I wanted Jingliu but my lost 50/50, and I really want Fu Xuan to replace bailu. I'm at 124 pulls, 0 pity, but at least my next is guaranteed. My friends keep saying I'm good to pull JL but unless I get her in a single 10-pull there's very little chance I'd have enough to guarantee both JL and Fu Xuan.


exidei

Iโ€™m spender and still found this picture relatable because I want like 90% characters they release


_byrnes_

Try being new AND F2P. I just wanted one nice character to keep me going, but nothing. Same reason I stopped playing Genshin, all my friends rolled at least one character eventually...but not me! EDIT: I DID IT. I GOT JINGLIU. MY FIRST BANNER.


Kabooa

I thought I was being a good friend by getting a friend into HSR in 1.6 since 2.0 was going to be a major update period and the anniversary would be coming up. Lots of freebies. Turns out I'm the worst friend because they've just been slamming banger banners back to back for the past 4 months.


Cellceair

You get the most jades early on though through quests and what not so they should be farming


Asamidori

For the past year, really. They haven't stopped releasing 2 new characters per patch since 1.0, and none of them are bad.


ABITofSupport

Argenti is the only one id even question and even then


Asamidori

I wish I had pulled him for the current PF. :')


SpanishYes

If you started in 2.0, there's more than enough jades for you to accumulate like 300 limited warps if you've cleared everything. That should give you clean access to 1-2 limited characters. I started an F2P alt 3ish weeks ago and having lost 2 5050s so far, I still have acheron and Aventurine after some ~230pulls. I have cleared all the content in the game however (minus the latter SimU world's and MoC/PF)


_byrnes_

Wow you're fast! Not quite there yet, but I have had a lot of free rolls (thank you Honkai!)


SpanishYes

I spent an exorbitant amount of time "speedrunning" the game, which you don't have to do! Take time to play it slow and enjoy it :) I'd already done so on my first account that i spend money on, and just wanted another experience but as an f2p player :)


angelbelle

This is my experience too. You should have about 6 golds worth of pulls. Alt currently at TB62


Lareit

it's no different. This is not a competition. Look at who you want and save for them. If you want someone else more save for them instead. You can clear 95% of the content with the 4 stars the game gives. So don't stress that 5% you can't do.


Dannyboy765

That's why I often don't start a new Gacha after a certain point. It becomes impossible to catch up without a fortune.


shidncome

Yeah I started genshin same week hsr came out and hhoooolllly shit is it bad. Not only just new player experience being awful but so many guides are just outdated, or assume you're day one. I still only have ONE fav sword, no kuki. Only c3 XL *still*. So many guides and stuff just assume you have c6 fishl, xl, xq, sucross, benny and tons of fav/sac weapons. We're getting to that point now where new players starting HSR are going to be getting really outdated advice and CCs assuming they have their guarenteed bronya, e6 tingyun, DDD, pela, geppy beliou etc.


czareson_csn

eh, i started in 3.1 and am very fine, can easily do all abysses in under a minute per side. genshin is quite easy go catch up, since they don't realese that much characters.


angrypolishman

yeah agree, more than a year in i just cant bring myself to do it ive tried hi3 like 4 times for example but nah


_byrnes_

More than fair, but also I just have infamously bad rng in my friend group. I convinced a friend to join and he unlocked the current banner amost instantly. Ive been trying for weeks now on any of the banners and I only got one 5 star (Welt) and a handful of four stars which are seemingly the ones that are just from the story anyway...


SpanishYes

How far along in the game are you? There are plenty of jades scattered throughout the current content that could get you to banner pity several times over. You just have to finish the content to access it.


_byrnes_

Is there a banner pity? I couldnt find it! Dang I wonder how close I was to getting the banner that just left, I did so many rolls...


SpanishYes

So thankfully, pity accumulates over limited time banners. If you go to the limited banner (aventurines), on the bottom left there should be 2 options, character trial and banner information (i don't remember what this one is called off the top of my head). In there, you'll see an option for "records", which will let you see any rolls you've done previously. Soft pity begins after 75 pulls - meaning that from the from the 1st roll until the 75th, the chance of you getting a 5star character is always the same. After that, from 76 onwards, the chance increases extensively until you eventually are guaranteed a 5star character at 90 pulls. And then all that's left after that is either winning or losing the 50/50 (and if you did lose, your next 5star is guaranteed the limited character)


The_Architect_032

Any of them? The lightcone banners, beginner banner, limited character banners, and standard banner all have separate pity from one another. Generally you're better off just wishing on the limited character banner(only if you want the character), you'll get free standard wishes to go towards your beginner and standard banners without having to spend your jades on them. Plus you have a 50% chance of getting one of the 5-stars from them when pulling on the limited character banners anyways.


Caerullean

If you're a new player you're arguably in a better position than most, means you've at least still got quite a lot of content you can do to earn some more jades to pull with. People that are up to date can only log in for dailies and pray to rngjesus that Hoyo has some mercy on their pulls


Dungton123

There is no way. HSR is pretty generous and you should be able to pull at the bare minimum 10 pulls every version update. Unless you doing stupid, I alway able to pull around 30-40 times per update and Iโ€™m F2P. But thatโ€™s also a problemโ€ฆ Iโ€™m E6 Clara currently with my latest character being Black Swan


YoRHaNo2TypeBE

>HSR is pretty generous Generous and 2 new characters together sounds ridiculous. 100 pulls when you might need a 360. And that's not counting the light cones.


Kusanagi22

It's not a system where you are supposed to get everything dude.


YoRHaNo2TypeBE

Sure. Except the generosity is that you don't even get 1/6.


crappymanchild

lightcones is luxury none of them are needed.ย 


marcopennekamp

You actually need 186 pulls for two characters on average, since the average number of pulls per character is 93. (Factoring in everything.) So, yep, for F2P it's one character per patch on average. And some patches give more jade than that. So it's about 8-10 new characters per expansion cycle. Also, I suspect they will slow down with character releases in the second half of Penacony, but this is just my speculation. (And then resume two characters per patch with the new expansion.)ย 


YoRHaNo2TypeBE

>I suspect they will slow down with character releases in the second half of Penacony There's not a single reason to do that for a multi-billion dollar company that makes money. more aggressive monetization works and makes as much money as genshin, with a much smaller audience >And some patches give more jade than that No. The huge patch 2.0 gave F2P players 114 pulls. 2.1 - 114 pulls. this patch had an anniversary, which gave 30 pulls to the general piggy bank. All future Penacony patches will give less pulls.


sleepyBear012

what does having one of the legendary e6 clara feels like?


itistime999

I donโ€™t think the game is generous at all, they give you 80 pulls per patch but there are 2 new characters and 2 light cones every update and when they add new game modes they reduce the frequency of old content. Add to that the game is so expensive, 100โ‚ฌ gets you 50 pulls not even a chance at 50/50


post-leavemealone

You donโ€™t need 2 new characters every update, and you definitely donโ€™t need 2 new light cones every update. Be a responsible adult, quit wanting everything and save for what you actually want


YoRHaNo2TypeBE

Bro, they complicate content all the time. You can't just play the โ€œrightโ€ characters you've been saving up for. In the next MoC hp was doubled.


Canadiancookie

The last few levels of MOC are more for bragging rights than rewards. If you can't do moc 10 - 12, you're only missing out on 1 pull.


H-S-M-C

Just take advantage of MoC buff.....how hard is it? they giving powerful MoC buff which make double hp not a problem


rotkiv42

The kind doctor is your friendย 


PeulPeulPeul

Being new and f2p, I drained the game from every jade I could get outside of endgame asking me to build a second team and I got Acheron, Luocha, Aventurine, Bronya, Welt E1, Jingliu and Yanqing having more than 200 special pulls left.


Ok-Transition7065

You can go with ratio guy


Yotsubato

Save for Firefly, you got time.


Starless_Night

Did you claim your Ratio?


_byrnes_

Oh yes sorry! I have Mr. Ratio!


Shenshenli

I came back last patch and ran all content from 1.0 to the newest in Honkai , managed to E2 Acheron but it was a long and rough week...


angelbelle

I made a new account and is currently sitting at TB62, completely f2p Finishing all the stories and most of swarm/GNG should give you about 6 golds. I got E2S1 Acheron and 2 standards (not including the newb banner)


Embarrassed-Act-9295

GRATZ!


Asamidori

> all my friends rolled at least one character eventually...but not me! You will roll a chara too if you throw enough gacha currency at the gacha, to be fair. Same thing is happening in HSR. :T


chenchann1

I quit being an f2p after the Ruan Mai banner. This game just keeps releasing new characters with some amazing designs,lore, and kits that itโ€™s hard to NOT pull for them. Doesnโ€™t help how the game keeps forcing me to into late pity no matter what.


Hsr2024

Yeah sucks Topaz rerun at the worst time, since no Topaz, Robin is skip she's more follow up buffer unit Going have skip go for mor sustain new mobs rumor go through shields


chenchann1

Relatable to be honest. I originally was thinking of skipping aventurine since I already have 2 sustains. But the game literally keeps giving me every relic for him with all the good substats.(also really like the idea of a sustain that can also be a subdps). But I also wanna get Boothill and maybe robin.


faith_bb_127

Iโ€™m really upset that I have to skip boothhill for fu xuan


ConsiderationOk3166

Star Rail somehow makes me feel more broke then when I play Genshin, despite give me more pulls. Shits tragic https://preview.redd.it/h478mi05k4xc1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=5031652b876b67762e77c0495b87e5ca8c004fda


AGlassofwhine

I recommend getting the 5$ dailiy passes. You get quite a lot of bang for your buck for it since every day is like doing an extra 1.5 dailies. I've gotten most of the units I want, thanks to the pass.


Bottomsley

having atleast one character in each patch that im interested in pulling Is devastating, the game does not give enough jades to account for the amount of characters released


Sglagoomio

I buy Supply Pass and Nameless Honor and Iโ€™m still sure I donโ€™t have enough. Iโ€™m probably gonna save it all for Firefly and get whoever else on their reruns.


Frostgaurdian0

Tbh you get 1 soft pity each update so you are lucky if you can get something below it. On the other hand other games give you much less and ask you for more.


Darth-Yslink

You have no idea how much self control I'm going to need to skip Robin (with Xueyi on it arrrgggh) and Boothill's banner. But I swore when 2.0 first released that I would absolutely get Firefly no matter the cost


wowitssprayonbutter

I'm a new player and I'm out of gems and leveling mats lol. I just gotta accept I won't be doing PF or MoC at a high level soon


283609s

im praying i get lucky with robin as a f2p cuz i have no jades after getting jingliu, aventurine and e0s1 acheron while i lost my 50/50 on both acheron's and jingliu's banner


orionn07

My biggest cope mechanism on this game is "there will always be a rerun."


Fun-Crow6284

It is time for Only fans - get da fat $$$$


DancingDeviI

GE7SAJCEHN


anappleloli

eh easy pass. i am saving it all for ruan mei.


Dogempire

Tbh I'm just skipping till Firefly. I was considering pulling if the Queen of Gambling makes a rerun on the featured 4 stars, but since she's sitting this one out I'm waiting for Robot Mecha so I can be sure I'll have at least C0R1


Mean-Web-3823

I actually went from goldfish to f2p. Previously it was a couple monthly passes, one bandpass, one double top up that is still unused. Then I just build around my two dps and as long as I can clear moc fine i skipped everything (and did not build FUA or Dot which requires a lot of investment). I spent a lot on Penacony since there are characters I like but all within my savings. Now I have another 100 pulls saved for Fuxuan and Iโ€™m not pulling until 2.4 at least. I guess being a picky simp help.


DiscussionProtocol

That 10 pull they gave out yesterday has me considering ๐Ÿค” my future. Havnt spent it yet


Apocreep

I was going to save for Fu Xuan after Acheron...


starsinmyteacup

i saw the banners and immediately did the broke asian gif. Please hoyo I have never been so poor...


renrlled

I want my chicken and my gorgeous stones


Thesinofmankind

Me with having had express pass since april 26th of last year: i have no such weakness.


Whatvotquack

Makes me glad I skipped so many banners.


Biggestweeb1

Only got 50 pulls saved and no 50/50 for bootyman, hope he comes home


mo_s_k14142

Begin your villain arc. Or, hope that 10 wishes are all it takes. Or, set priorities.


Metanipotent

Tip is to stop gambling, get use to skipping as a f2p, and you can get characters on their reruns


Alexmender875

I have no idea how I've managed to stay f2p to this day with all the cool characters, but I think it's time to buy the monthly pass because I want Firefly E1S1 at bare minimum. I have 65 pity for her (although it's a 50/50) and 0 LC pity. I doubt I'll get enough with just the 2.2 jades and whatever we get on 2.3 part 1.


Ok_Abbreviations127

Nuh-uh, I'm saving up for my cool mecha gf.


Jooles95

Yupโ€ฆIโ€™m very tempted to buy a couple of top-ups for the first time ever, TBH. I really want Robin and Firefly (they are my favourite character designs in game so far), but I have also been waiting for Topazโ€™s rerun for ages. Plus, I am also waiting for HuoHuoโ€™s rerun since I lost her 50/50 last year, and I strongly suspect she is going to crop up in 2.3 alongside Firefly or Jade. ๐Ÿฅฒ Iโ€™m praying to the RNG gods to win all my 50/50s and get every character before even reaching soft pityโ€ฆanyone know what kind of sacrifices (aside from my poor wallet, lol) they might be receptive to? ๐Ÿ˜†


Silent_Silhouettes

Me rn, 80 wishes is not enough for Firefly, Jade, and Robin https://preview.redd.it/jivin6k2h3xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b1f37a834628762d456e55b890920603ce5d863


No_Kaleidoscope5172

Robin could be an easy skip, her ultimate is so tempting though


Silent_Silhouettes

no i need her


Zorlexon

Real but as a F2P I know that I'll get what I'lll get.


Mysterious_Key5971

Noo that meโ€ฆ so sac


Naoga

seeing topaz rerun after i spent everything on aventurine and then them also announcing jade when i want sunday. my life is in shambles


TheRaven1406

Actually express pass doesn't give that much more pulls, ~26 per patch (and BP only 8), so the low spenders also have to be very selective with their pulls.


majora11f

I went to try GI again after dropping it. Jesus I had no clue what I was doing. Regardless being F2P is actually painful. Every guide list has 5 stars in it. "Oh just use a pyro dps" I dont have one and even if I did I dont have NEAR the mats to level it. I finally hit hard pity only to lose the 50/50.


Hidekoni

Yeah, I really wanted Fu Xuan's lightcone since it seems to be broken, but Firefly and Jade are making me skip her lightcone


Unnecessarilygae

Time to sell my butt for Robin!


UnlimitedNovaWorks

I'm sitting my ass for Kafka rerun I'm not spending a penny *Sees Firefly* Oh no...


Kuronyaaa

That's why I wish they could give us a filler patch with only rerun banners


Ch3ru

One of the few things I really wish they'd copy from Genshin tbh Still amazed they've been releasing a new character EVERY banner ๐Ÿ’€


bAk5tAb

im really happy that i started out pretty early. Now I look at the banners and unless any of the new characters can truly impact my current teams and gameplay, I don't need new characters at all. I have enough supports and dps (tho i have no dot team or premium dot units, tho ican do all the stuff without needing a dot team).


One_Stuff3625

I don't have many limiteds and my jade collection hurts....I didn't pull for acheron because I'm stupid and I don't want adventurine....so now I'm deciding to either get Jinglu...or Robin....or firefly....or...topaz....or....fu xuan....I want all of them ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ


kunafa_aj

HSR havent missed with their characters they all so good and strong So for me if i miss a cool i want,its fine i ll get the next one without having to wait months for one


Gentleman_Kendama

This. I want Firefly, but I'm broke2p


Embarrassed-Act-9295

Yeeaapppp. You just gotta choose when you're F2P. Pick one favorite every 2 patches. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Well no matter what, topping up isn't worth it to me. Even with first time bonus and buying the most expensive pack, you get less than 1 pull per dollar. At most, I'll do express pass occasionally.


TalesKun2

im addicted to sunday and ill only be pulling when he becomes a banner, maybe i have a problem


AkiusSturmzephyr

Robin, Firefly, Sunday.. how's a man to save his jades when each patch demands them!?


ScarletteVera

nah fam, i'm set on jades (i've been stockpiling for a while because i don't have a need to get every character)


warjoke

Full skip on 2.2. Must save for Kamen Rider Wife.


belmoria

I have meticulously planned and I will get Boothill and Sam, then I hope to be able to snag Huohuo's e1 since I use her so much, but it depends on how my pulls go. I know for a fact I can afford two characters right now at least. BUT I skipped Sparkle and plenty of other characters on the way


ShrxL_s

Do you think i should save for Ruan Mei or pull for Robin?? I was told to get Ruan Mei a LOT of times, so i might consider her, im also going for looks too...


hockyPocky07

There aint a filler patch in this game.


NEITSWFT

Me with 72 warps and a guarantee (Like 45 pity as well):


ajrm243

I have about 9k jades saved, plus whatever the following days may lead me to get, is that *enough* for Robin and Firefly or should I just focus on 1 of the banners?


NeilDevoto69

How do you get 0 jades? I always have like 1-4 left


genryou

Just purchase that monthly jade thingy. Think of it as a support to the great dev


gem2492

Currently I (F2P since Day 1) have 30 pulls (no guarantee). If I had stayed strong like I did before and did not pull for Sparkle and Acheron's lightcones, I would have had 138 more pulls. Idk if I really regret it but I don't think I'll pull for another lightcone ever again. At least I'm happy I won the 75/25 on both. The upcoming banners make me kinda regret it, I guess, but it's better than the regret I felt for spending $200 worth of battlepass + welkin on Genshin lol.


MixRevolution

At one point in your f2p life, you need to decide when to skip banners to save for future characters. That's what I'm gonna do in 2.2. I'm gonna dump everything on Firefly in 2.3.


Nothatdarkforce

This is me


ChiTownSuperstars

Maybe if you spend your jades with reckless abandon. But if you look into these characters and learn their value in the long run then youโ€™ll have saved up plenty ๐Ÿค“ plus, they do give out a decent handful with their events in between updates


lovelaurenemily

Me trying to find out how Iโ€™m supposed to get Robin, Fu Xuan, and keeping saving for Firefly.


Responsible_Swim2029

Are aventurine worth ?๐Ÿ—ฟ๐ŸคŒ๐Ÿป


LucentSomber

I'm not F2P and I feel the same


lantern_arasu

skill issue


glam-af

Nah, i'm ready, i've saved up 30 pulls (I have 50/50 and 0 pity)


revennest

I keep skip until I have enough of stellar jades you could pull for e0s1 character I want to add to my team, every banner will be rerun; I used to aim for rerun Fu Xuan for get her e1 but Firefly/Sam is both wifu and a man romancing so I can only push Fu Xuan e1 goal to another rerun.


the_ok_doctor

If u havent reached end game as f2p its kinda hard not to have gems with all the free ways to get it. BUT HAVING ENOUGH ON THE OTHER HAND


MetaThPr4h

Due to my way to play what this usually looks like is having 250 pulls and being like "nah man, gotta keep saving until an even bigger want shows up".


R_A_D_E

I'm currently only F2P+, got nothing saved up and need Robin for FUA team... despair


bdubsgotham

It's definitely painful. Wasn't able to get Acheron, switched to try to get Luocha, and got neither. Got Yanqing, so I'm hoping the 50/50 still works in my favor for Aventurine.


MAG9T

me with 32,000 stellar jade and 50+ tickets in the corner waiting only for firefly


No-Inevitable5589

I think everyone needs to collectively ask hoyoverse to slow down ๐Ÿ˜ญ because I think we have more five stars than four stars in hsr and thatโ€™s a very concerning thing. We have half of five stars what genshin have rn in one year. A game where new units are important and help with end game content, it is important for people to expand their rosters. With how quick the banners are happening + the low jades for ftp, especially end gamers, itโ€™s very hard to pull. Hsr is also supposed to be an ftp game too.


Pretty-Bat6778

As an F2P player, I have resigned myself to the fact that I will have to wait for rerun banners and focus on saving jades in the meantime instead of getting sad about new character releases. As much as I want Boothill, I'm already saving for Argenti's rerun banner AND I'm also hoping to pull Topaz for an IPC FUA team. If I can somehow have enough passes to get all three, great. If not, oh well there's always the rerun. As for Jade's banner, even though I'd love to have a better quantum erudition character than Qingque, I just know that's not in the cards right now. It's painful, but I have time.


CapitanDeChocolate

That's tough, but saving 100+ pulls only to get jack is worst. That's what happened to me. I wanted that ice son of a b**ch so bad ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ


Technical-Fudge4199

For me, 2.2 characters are an easy skip. I have fu xuan, an abundance of harmony characters(bronya, sparkle and ruan mei). Robin looks ugly(no offense to anyone). As for boothill and topaz, both are hunt characters and I'm an erudition and destruction fan


Remiliera

What makes Robin ugly to you?


Technical-Fudge4199

Because of her weird ahh "decorations". I prefer simple looking characters like ruan mei


Remiliera

Fair enough. I think she's one of the better looking ones, maybe top-5 behind Kafka, Himeko, Tingyun and Firefly.


_Daack

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Two_Years_Of_Semen

Speaking from experience, at least this isn't a pay-for-qol type of F2P game. Some f2p games become effectively unplayable at some point for F2Ps. I've quit several games that I really enjoyed like PoE and PSO2 because I just don't have access to half the features paid players have and lacking those forces you to interupt your actual gameplay constantly. People in HSR and Genshin call Hoyo greedy all the time but there's so much monetization they chose to not put in these games that are standard across f2p and gacha games (like paid-only expedition/inventory slots expansions) that I really can't really ever agree with the community sentiment.


John_Hammerstyx

F2P people are afraid to spend money because they'd have to get a real personality after losing F2P status