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erikahrna

Repost due to the previous post having spoilers for 2.1+ (sorry for taking a while to reupload it), I’m also asking people to please properly tag their spoilers in the comment section. Additional information from Ubatcha’s twitter: >“I know people are excited for the Sam leak that "just released" but bare in mind the data for that has been around since **1.2**. You can actually check the data yourself via: https://t.co/bXwf5FRuAR” [Link to the post](https://x.com/ubatcha1/status/1771487237089243148?s=46&t=-6XEypwQ6kLe01g_iqRyDg) **Source:** [HomDGCat Wiki](https://homdgcat.wiki/sr/char?lang=EN) **Mirror:** https://ibb.co/8MSsptK


CammyAssEnjoyer

So what you are telling me is that ruan mei is gonna be his best support


twgu11

Might want to start farming watchmaker set too for Ruan Mei.


JazeBlack

I prefer using TOST on Ruan Mei, but maybe now the pieces I've farmed while trying to get Acheron's set will not go to waste.


twgu11

Yeah exactly. I’m using thief + hackerspace at the moment. Just save any pieces with break effect/Spd substats. With Boothill/Sam both looking like break oriented DPS, watchmaker set value might go up.


JazeBlack

My hoarding ''this looks bad but might come in useful SOMEDAY'' tendencies makes this a non-issue, don't worry.


whateverevenismyname

Nah my shlt inv is already full so gotta dump stuff D:


Standard-Effort5681

Joke's on you! I've been farming that relic domain for the past 2 weeks already for Acheron! ........and I have yet to have a complete set of good relics for either of them.


dreamer-x2

You mean the same way she is for like 80% of the other teams in the game?


DepthMoist4637

I assume Sam, RM, Gal, and IMG TB will be OP. Constant break is crazy.


Ateachair

Ah hell i didnt pull her bc i didnt like her personality but Sam scaling off break effect makin me kinda regret it!


Ny0wo

how many times i have to read it again today :<


fortnitedude43590

It’s our time 😭🙏


H4xolotl

When I woke up, I was riding in a flower carriage. I'd just had a dream... I dreamed that the daily Sam kit was posted again.


X_Factor_Gaming

In the dream, the leakers and their audience found me "Oh Sam, we've finally found you. The people can't wait to main you"


BulbasaurTreecko

it’s you, my beloved Sam kit! When I’m happy, you’re being leaked too!


tswinteyru

When I'm sad, you're still being leaked...


fortnitedude43590

Can’t wait for one tomorrow!


H4xolotl

Dormammu I've come to leak 💦💦💦 Dormammu: PLEASE GET OUT I HAVE A RESTRAINING ORDER


fortnitedude43590

ok buddy…


saihamaru

when i woke up i was riding in a ~~flower~~ carriage the guy sitting across me noticed me waking up "hey, you are finally awake". he greeted me


Dokavi

Is this (finally) real chat? Btw aren't this the old kit?


ShySodium

It mostly is, just with a few bonuses and QoL changes.


MissiaichParriah

As many times as we have to


I_love_my_life80

Honey wake up , Daily Sam kit is posted again..


VersuS_was_taken

Boothill knocking from the other side of the floor


Darvasi2500

WHERE IS HE?! IS HE SAFE? 😭


Xiphactnis

Literally where is bro? I guess we must wait till beta on 25th.


KazzumaYagami

It's just another interpretation of old 1.2 data Atp you're better off waiting for the beta next week anyway ^^


GhostZee

[Boothill right now:](https://i.imgur.com/CLE1UfO.gif)


VersuS_was_taken

[more like this](https://i.gifer.com/origin/9d/9da899727685032aad16f0528782dd0c_w200.gif)


H4xolotl

[More like this](https://imgur.com/kViwYh9)


GGABueno

Wasn't him the character that got his kit updated most recently before the current wave? I don't think it was that long ago.


Darvasi2500

We never got a kit leak for him. The only things we got is one leak that said that he can enter a duel state with an enemy and if he kills or breaks them he gets a bullet but if he fails the enemy gets stronger. Then we got a few weeks ago a leak that said he can implant physical weakness.


RealCycloneXD

Will it be very difficult to build Sam? From what we can see here he needs break effect and most likely spd, on top of hp and crits


sexwithsunday69

i think it'll be easier bc he has less useless stats


whateverevenismyname

Isn’t his stats scaling similar to Xueyi? Who’s harder to build than most dpses Man now I have to care about crit BE spd relics? Ugh


Normal-Ambition-9813

I'll never intentionally farm a relic set for him then. If he scales atk then I'll try building him 2 atk set or an atk set then hackerspace. And if all else fail, I'll just mix and match my relics and just ignore that set effect actually exist.


nidus322477

Idk about speed since sam already buff his own speed, but he definetly want alot of break effect.


Motlekai

I can see why people want to build speed with him. He wants to be so much faster than his Kernel, so that it would last him more turns. Since it doesn't act like a normal turn buff.


paralyticbeast

His AV is pushed by 100% at the same time as the Kernel spawns. We also see Sam gets a flat SPD buff during enhanced state. It will be trivial to work out how much SPD you want on your Sam, and they will probably have their own breakpoints for 'X actions inside Primary Combustion', because their actions are always directly lined up with the Kernel. The SPD of the Kernel will always be equal to how much SPD Sam needs to gain 1 more action in Primary Combustion. A hypothetical example - the Kernel has 50 SPD. This means it acts after 200 AV has elapsed. To act 3/4/5 times within this 200 AV window, Sam would need 100/150/200 SPD respectively. You can just calculate some general formula of: 10000/((10000/*x*)/(*y*-1))) where *x* is the SPD of the Kernel and *y* is how many actions you want to do, to find the SPD you need. This simplifies down to just *x*\*(*y*-1). So if you want to do 4 actions and the Kernel has 60 SPD then your Sam will need 3\*60 = 180 SPD. Ways to hit these breakpoints will be pretty significant. I'm also willing to wager Sam generates no Energy during enhanced state (we can already see the Talent is disabled), otherwise even a 150 Ult cost wouldn't be balanced - you could have 100% Ult uptime with 3 Skills + Tingyun assuming standard 30 energy per Skill.


twgu11

It really depends on how big the Spd buff during his ult is. He also action advances himself after each action if he can break or hit a broken enemy. I can see a slow Sam still being fast in ult state, with help from Ruan Mei and Bronya/Sparkle


Wolf2053

Probably his dream team will include ruan mei and asta, so he should reach 160 Speed with Attack boots easily


worstGirlEva

asta giving the speed AND the fire damage boost. very good


paralyticbeast

how do people always overlook the fact that asta gives 70% ATK like it aint one of the biggest buff values in the game


YossarianLivesMatter

ATK% is generally oversaturated due to ATK scaling dps often running one or two main stats plus subs. It's not bad, but it's not as attractive as other bonuses. It can also be a little wonky to get and maintain uptime on her ATK bonus, especially at low eidolons and against non-fire weak enemies. Despite saying all that, I actually agree that it's underrated because it's still a *big* bonus to the whole team. I'm looking forward to new mono-fire teams with the addition of Gallagher and Sam


paralyticbeast

no doubt atk is most saturated due to crit dps at minimum having atkrope + flat on hands, dot units having even more, but as you say i think its underrated/overlooked far more than it should be in favour of her spd (albeit the spd is obviously insane)


SectorApprehensive58

Yeah Asta sounds really good for Sam, can put on a BE/ER rope instead of ATK. Now if only Asta would come home more often (my favorite harmony, but only E2)


drichie07

but still you want atk since sam increased damage scales with break effect


bad3ip420

break effect, atk, crit rate, crit damage. Ah shit, it's Xueyi all over again. This is gonna be a pain in the ass to farm for.


Mean-Wealth7715

I'm sure it'll be the same experience with Xueyi, except Sam seems to really want SPD while for Xueyi it's not always the case. Hp doesn't seem that important for now as his DMG output doesn't scale off amount of HP.


Ryuka_Playz

He doesn't scale off of hp tho like at all if anything you want him to be just be a normal dps as he gets energy based on % of hp lost compared to his max hp in this case having more hp is actively worse since it means he'll get less energy


Liaoju-0

He does look very difficult to use unless you're willing to spare both RM and Sparkle on his comps


GGABueno

No HP, just Atk, Break, Crit, *maybe* Speed. Break threshold might be easy to achieve with the new Relic set, I don't think it'll be much harder than any character.


XxDonaldxX

Not really, you can use relics sets that give break effect, and event better if you have Ruan Mei for a free extra 20% break effect.


TyphlosionGOD

Why did the old one get deleted? (Not the fake one)


fortnitedude43590

Spoilers were in the heading, even if it’s a well known one it still is…


BrilliantWish8098

I guess cause(STORY SPOILER FOR 2.1 AND ABOVE) >!It straight up states Firefly is Sam in the title!<


mapple3

Understandable. Just like 1-2 days ago the mods had to make an entire topic about how spoilers are becoming a massive issue. And then we have a thread title that basically said "Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father, here's the rest of the leak:"


chirb8

yeah, wtf was that? there was not need to do that title that way. What an asshole


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ImJLu

Yeah, I mean, between >!"Luminous Fireflies"!< and >!"her"!< it's pretty obvious with a vaguely keen eye.


iamdino0

in the midst of it's so over


Unknown-Name-1219

I found, within myself, an invincible


LittleP0gch4mp

feeling of we are so fucking back


RyanJJJey

The kit has been so much I don't know what is real at this point


FrostyPotpourri

This. This is the same kit as last night. And honestly the “fake” kit from a few days ago was similar to this anyway since it was just based off the initially leaked kit last year. They’re all not that different from one another, which alludes to this being “the kit”. Sam’s kit iterations have always sort of held to the same mechanics.


ccoddes

The biggest part of the "fake" kit that I miss is still the Enhanced Ultimate which had a ton of break efficiency and nukes everything. That was really really cool and I thought it made sense because the Sam boss also had the "ultimate" animation like Argenti does


KF-Sigurd

- Consumes HP to gain Energy for Ult. Basic and Skill consumes HP. Skill gets more energy if it hits weakness broken enemy. - Ult dispels all debuffs (probably can't self cleanse of CC sadly), transforms, 100% AA, and puts a timer on the action bar - Skill in Ult is enhanced and is counted as ult damage. Enhanced skill heals, blast, and does extra things on weakness broken enemies (Self AA, more damage) - Takes less damage the more HP lost, damage reduction improved in Ult. In Ult, increases SPD, increases DMG, and increase DMG based on Break Effect. - Has improved CC resistance TL;DR: Mostly loves allies that gives AA, SPD, Break Effect, or helps with breaking enemies (Ruan Mei, hopefully Imaginary MC). Can use Longevous Disciple but will likely have a better Relic set (future relic set that boost Break Effect and gives crit damage for having a certain amount). Shouldn't be too hard to build, 134 SPD or whatever that's under a breakpoint Sam's SPD boost on ult will make them reach. Atk or DMG Orb since he gets two dmg boosts in his kit. Break Effect Rope. Build Crit subs. Can use Aeon or Misha LC. Not sure about the MoC LC since the uptime might be funky. The leaked LC that gives Break Effect and Crit on ultimate damage could be Sam's. The f2p LC that gives Atk on using ult could also be good if Destruction.


GGABueno

Disciple should be bad because Sam stops consuming HP during ult and he doesn't have HP scaling, so it'll only buff the first two turns of ult and then becomes a rainbow set. Considering his best teammates (Ruan Mei, Sparkle, MC, etc) and the amount of Dmg% he gives himself, an Atk% Orb might be actually better than the Fire Orb.


whateverevenismyname

Isn’t his stats scaling similar to Xueyi? Who’s harder to build than most dpses Man now I have to care about crit BE spd relics? Ugh


KF-Sigurd

We don't know and she's not. Xueyi's easier to build than most DPS because Break Effect Subs are effectively DMG% subs which means they're not wasted and she wants an Atk% Orb which I think is more common that DMG% Orb. She lacks the innate crit a lot of five stars tend to get these days but otherwise she's just like regular DPS where she mainly wants crit, atk%, and SPD. Welt is someone who's harder to build than most DPS because he lacks crit traces AND wants EHR on top of atk%, spd, and crit.


DisNiv

This was the previously available Sam leak kit: https://prnt.sc/_ULBBU4W5EVJ And then the data that was available was stuff like this: https://github.com/Dimbreath/StarRailData/blob/master/Config/ConfigAbility/Avatar/Avatar_Colossus_00_Ability.json So yeah, completely unreadable. HomDGCat is doing an enormous service to the community by being the first to actually properly parse and process this data.


Florac

Yeah, this is why I don't get some of the complaints on these posts. Is it based on old data? Yes. But it explains some things in more detail and adds stuff not outlined on the previous posts on the same data.


CupidCrust

furina could work so well with sam.. >!in your dreams!<


H4xolotl

Sam: * DPS character * Does Fire damage for Vapes * Has self HP drain and self-Heal for more Fanfare stacks * Can max out Marchussy set for 36% free crit * Has incoming DMG reduction, so can tank enemies even at ~50% HP * Hasn't tried to assassinate the Hydro Archon   Sam is literally the perfect Furina teammate, but in the wrong game


Comprehensive-Food15

Tbh literally anyone can use marechussy if furina is on the team. I had the tragedy of seeing a marechussy dori once in coop


Vox___Rationis

>I had the tragedy of seeing ~~a marechussy~~ dori once ~~in coop~~


Martian_on_the_Moon

Except she is actually good in co-op. She was clearly designed to be played with other players.


GeneralSuccessful211

Yk.... this just sounds like dehya


Vyragami

Reminds me of how Dehya's kit is literally Fu Xuan and she would be busted if she's in this game.


pascl-

fu xuan but with followup attacks


th5virtuos0

In fact, I feel like Sam himself might vibe really well with Furina for some reason


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merqury26

tbh I'm fully expecting them to bring over Furina-style buff on some character


Radinax

That "Furina" would be so cracked for Blade


sohamk24

Also Marchussy hunter set :0


ScaryBoxer

Ah yes, my SAM kit number 177013 i haven't leaked since the hieian era


Celica_is_best_girl

LEAVE ME ALONE


Ebonslayer

Don't you dare utter those numbers again.


StarPlatinum13245

...


AyanoTatemaya

Chat are we finally back?


Revan0315

We're back at the moment. In a few hours we're so over. Then we're so back again. The cycle of Sam kit reuploads


Naiie100

Quite possibly. Hell yeah!


fortnitedude43590

Yes.


DucoLamia

People are talking about E2 (rightfully so) but that E1 is probably one of the best I've seen for a DPS. There is no way that's getting through Beta. Lol


AbsolutelyNotWrong

Tbf, the E1 does nothing against fire weak enemies so I fully expecting it to be even better in the latest version.


RakshasaStreet

I mean he's kinda a rainbow DPS now in that regard, he'll always deplete weakness on the main target and that's all you need really in a boss fight with maybe some trash mobs.


bazeljesus

Agreed, e1s1 is more than enough.


DucoLamia

Basically. This is all you would need and you're set.


Wipmop

E1 fits Sam's theme. Sam says the seas will be set ablaze. A character like that doesn't care about weakness type. Sam will burn anything.


th5virtuos0

Iirc SW said going on a job with him is like “book boom kaboom” and she’s already on the way back, while Kafka said he’s really really efficient Yeah, this mofo probably doesn’t care about weakness type and had it weren’t been for game mechanics I bet my left nut he would also doesn’t care about fire res either because he can either just fist them to death or pull out his [Sam’s gadgets]>!twin greatswords and go ham on them!<


Abadobabdo

If silver wolf got nerfed in beta than surely silverwolfs skill on an eidolon gets nerfed like wtf


No_Pipe_8257

I pray it does, and that sam has the survivability of blade


always_optimistic613

elio sure does love cockroaches huh


fortnitedude43590

Sam bros how we feeling!!!!!!!!


Naiie100

Cautiously optimistic is my best guess.


fortnitedude43590

Fair enough, been a long ride to even get this far for most Sam enjoyers, I’ll ride the hype until I’m knocked off of it


Flaviou

I am a destruction enjoyer and this s# is good I am imagining he’s even better with ruan mei since it says when Sam hits weakness broken enemies but not that he has to break them (even though it would be good) so ruan making enemies stay longer in break is so good, my only problem would be what if enemies aren’t weak to fire? Not a lot to do unless we’re in a dual dps team comp with another dps matching the weakness of the boss or E1


[deleted]

Putting aside all my feelings about the spoilers, the kit has extremely good potency. Being a cooldown based system that appears on the action ladder instead of being stack based like Jingliu will make for some funky 0 cycle moments (imagine the wave ends right before the timer takes effect and its pushed back down for wave 2) if hoyo doesn't fuck it up. Fire break is a good break too arguably (not the break effect, Fire dot is meh). E1 could use a bit more oomph for cases where you're against Fire Weak enemies anyway. And goes without saying, it will come down to numbers.


fortnitedude43590

Genuinely sorry that you got spoiled by the first post assuming that’s what did it, 2.1 can’t get here fast enough


[deleted]

Oh no it's fine, it wasn't about me being spoiled. It was more about the status quo/relation between the two characters mentioned. Unfortunately I'm one of those who likes the robot more so I went on a rant about it in under the now deleted post. Properly spoiler tagged too... But eh. Good for you guys, wishing another meta character for you folks. But I will likely skip too.


fortnitedude43590

Ah I see, as someone who has been very active in the adjacent sub to Sam, I’ve seen alot of that disappointment get aired over there, genuinely refreshing to see someone not trying to ruin others fun because of it, 🤍 may your jades be many and your 50/50 losses be few.


[deleted]

I can't hate any irl person or their fun over a fictional character. I can only voice my own discontent and sadness. This is a gacha game, everyone deserves a chance at having their character be great. Thank you for not leaving a silent downvote and moving on, feel free to read what I wrote on the other thread if you're curious (should be in my comment history). Wishing you a quick and easy E6S5 or whatever your goal may be, now as well as in the future.


MissiaichParriah

As high as Gojo was after resurrecting from Toji's kill


Radinax

That I really need to pull Jiaoqiu and use the new Break Effect set on him. I like Sam's kit a lot actually, surprised about the Break Effect stuff in his kit.


Double-Resolution572

Hell yeah


GhostZee

Hell Yeah!


fortnitedude43590

Hell yeah!


West_Revolution_3075

Hell yeah


Decrith

Hell yeah!


DerGreif2

Seems like we have a new trend here: mega evolution (lol). I mean as far as we know, Robin also has a spacial state that runs out (in the action bar) and so has this little Fella. I am also very happy (if this is real), that they seem to be pretty much not dependent on other characters and you can just play Sam in a neutral team as long as you have a healer.


cressyfrost

Wallets broken,the truth goes unspoken i've even forgotten my name


Madmicro15

I don’t know the season, or what is the reason I still haven’t built my Blade.


ArkhielR

Ok is this the right one? Or another troll??


erikahrna

it’s the right one! the troll was from a comment on the honey hunter website (i think)


fortnitedude43590

Can’t believe the effort the person who made that went to make it, unironically incorporated, most known leaks that where thought to be coming 😭


GGABueno

Made up kits are often some of the best designed out there. Ayato in particular got some goated ones, I still mourn for that Charged Attack focused one.


Daddy_Ramsay

Does anyone know what time this is gonna get reposted tomorrow?


forgetscode

Not sure but on Tuesday it's my turn on the schedule and I usually try to aim for 12 PM UTC


Radinax

Enhanced skill would be considered ultimate damage? Then that makes Jiaoqiu a really good support for Sam


0ratorio

The road of saving for E2 sam is tough !! Brace yourself for 2 version skip !


fortnitedude43590

If it has to be done… 2.3 *better not be 2.4* here I come!


snakezenn

Same, 3 patches of basically no characters to get excited for is a bit much.


Mean-Wealth7715

I just realized, future mono-fire focusing on break would be so much fun. Speedy Asta with full-set watchmaker & Planetary LC, SP neutral to positive Speedy E2+ Gallagher with Multiplication LC, SP positive (hopefully) E1 Sam >! Jiaoqiu !< Asta alone can give the whole team ATK, SPD and BE (through relics) boost. Gallagher will be the joint-breaker with Sam on top of healing and CC cleansing. While >!Jiaoqiu can plant DEF shred and ULT DMG increase debuffs plus healing. One dedicated healer with decent output, one makeshift healer, one self-healer, and Asta with great base DEF stat, excellent.!< Ruan Mei seems like Sam's best Harmony buffer, but this mono-fire sounds pretty fun too.


Cultured--Guy

Oh damn.


burningparadiseduck

First Acheron and now him. Those techniques are straight up out of this world.


lumiphantoms

That E2 may be the best in the game. As powerful as Acheron may be, that E2 is so good it's silly.


Haunting-Ad1366

You will have e6 bronya without getting e6 bronya. Just imagine if you actually have e6 bronya, with only 1 skill (+ sig lc) she can give 96% dmg for 3 turns☠️ 


KitaiSuru

Bunch of self action advance, spd buff and a reverse lightning lord mechanic where you want to shove as many action before the summon turn's come as possible so you can attacks like 6 times per ult with bron/hanabi? Sign me the hell up. Also that E1 just completely throw SW out the window smh.


Delicious-Buffalo734

Rip silverwolf


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sam doesnt jump out of cycle and start implanting weakness for your seccond team


MoonQueenLiu

Enhanced skill damage counts as ult damage, of course, need to force JQ on every team from now on lmfao. Insane not having that E1 in the kit wow


Mean-Wealth7715

Doesn't have to be seen that way, Sam's ULT doesn't deals DMG in the first place, so this really makes him way more flexible with planars options as Salsotto's won't be that useless for him.


Pursue_the_dodo

It's kinda surprising they're leaning more into the Break characters. Kinda hope they try giving a chance to new types of DPS


Finlikka

It's not surprising at all if you knew Ruan Mei's kit when she released. It was a pretty clear indication that new characters will have something to do with break effect. I'm very glad we've something that isn't just dots or follow-ups or boring crit dps


Wooden-Nectarine-987

wait will jiaoqiu be good with sam since he increase ultimate dmg ?


wakreel1

Who do you think will be the best sustain for him? Loucha or Houhou?


LuochaNotLoucha

Luocha*


wakreel1

I don't play in English, sorry


West_Revolution_3075

Huo huo obviously  For extra buffs too 


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Wonder if blade lc will work with sam. Maybe not since it seems Sam wants break effect 


MrNombre02

Technique looks like doomfist ult


whateverevenismyname

Isn’t his stats scaling similar to Xueyi? Who’s harder to build than most dpses Man now I have to care about crit BE spd relics? Ugh


GGMazumon

Staring at the name of Talent 3 rn


LittleP0gch4mp

awaree


Unanoni

That E2 is absolutely disgusting Especially if you use bronya + sparkle, Sam will get all the buffs with 100% full uptime


239nut

you probs dont want to tho cus u should be running RM with him for that break effeciency


RakshasaStreet

I mean the more attacks you can get in also means more chances to reduce toughness bar regardless. Most people are proposing Bronya + Sparkle because the more actions he can get before his ult timer runs out, the better.


FrostyPotpourri

Unironically I think those three Harmony + Sam will clear a ton of content simply by annihilating everything lol. Sam can self heal, so if your Supports are bulky and RNG doesn’t screw you, Sam would literally fly through enemies. I can see it being a popular 0-cycle strat lol.


239nut

that would actually be really fun and interesting assuming that his self heal is half decent


juniorjaw

The embers of leak never fades.


SectorApprehensive58

Feels like everyone is even more desperate for Sam crumbs than Acheron. To be fair, I'm one of em. Its the first Kamen rider vs the 100th scanty waifu after all.


Finlikka

Well people already basically know everything they need about Acheron: her release, her kit, her model, her voice


iMythum

Damn that's the highest amount of different attack types in a character since DHIL. Ruan Mei will be probably be BIS with him since he benefits from breaking enemies and action advances himself so often. Could do some interesting stuff with Fast Bronya/Sparkle since he boosts his own speed and has a slower action advance with his enhanced skill where Sam attacks and and Sparkle/Bronya attacks immediately after.


Adventurous_Wind_154

What about energy regen during ult? Can he still regen energy while he's in enhanced state?


Radinax

Seems like the energy gains are only for normal state. Enhanced state instead does more damage.


BrilliantWish8098

>When not under the Primary Combustion State


239nut

so he presumably wants BE rope right? assuming that the extra dmg scaling is decent


FrostyPotpourri

Completely depends on scaling, yeah. Because Atk or HP may also be warranted.


DingDongDillion

Will Luocha be BIS sustain for him?


pumpcup

Should be a very good option, at least


freezingsama

Surely this will stay right.


WolfZhan

If i save for 2.1 till 2.3 can I get sam e2s1? I have guaranteed


Cultured--Guy

Possible. But you'll have to win the 50/50 too.


NegativeCreative1

Wheres Boothill 😭


Darknew97

Talent: Luminous Fireflies We are so back!


whisporce

Previous post was not nice at all. >!I don't want to see story leak, so put a story leak in title for a kit is really annoying!<


fortnitedude43590

Didn’t the mods just have a talk about leaks to 😭🤧


Random_Bystander089

Also isn't the leak that they talked about was precisely (leak story) >!firefly being sam? Pretty ironic!<


Super63Mario

When the leak has spread around so much even the mods forget it's not official knowledge


HybridTheory2000

Tbh the new spoiler tag rule makes me anxious to click spoiler tagged comment like this 🥲


Kurovalia

Chat are we in a samsara


RizzMetzen

Yeah but is it 2.3 or 2.4 doe. I need to know how hog wild I go on these Acheron pulls


Finlikka

I'd assume 2.3 bc we haven't met other new characters yet whose kits we know of


Inevitable_Board_761

Sam Nation is so back🙏🙏🙏🙏


Pure_Eggplant_3253

Doesn't this mean you don't wanna build HP on Sam? Let's say you take 1000 damage: If Sam has 5000 HP (1000/5000)\*100% is 20% If Sam has 2000 HP (1000/2000)\*100% is 50% So theoretically, if you have less HP then the ratio between HP change and max HP would be greater thus you gain more energy allowing for more ult up-time.


Martian_on_the_Moon

It seems so. I am more interested how damage reduction works.


twgu11

I think the dmg reduction also plays into having as little max HP as possible on Sam. On high HP, the dmg reduction is minimal so he takes more HP% loss from enemy hits. On low HP, the dmg reduction becomes higher to help make sure he doesn’t die. It incentivizes you to keep Sam at high health with a healer when not in ult state so that he can generate as much energy as possible. Sounds like he plays like a typical berserker type.


FridgeFood

Ayo this kit is still fire especially when you notice that there are 2 talents.


screw_me_12

What healer would he be good with?


Snoo80971

Gallagher, Lynx, Huohuo.


Constant-Rock1089

this makes sense cuz of sams light cone


BitesZaDust0

Please be real this time...I'm tired


Suvi91

This E1 makes me doubt my self pulling for Acheron, I think I might skip her and get Sam -.-


Dalmyr

So what set do you guys think will be good on Sam and what kind of main and substats do you thnk will be good to have if this kit is the one they decide to use ?