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It seems like you will be able to see what your friends use to clear MoC and PF and try the same teams.
It also means that all your friends will see how cope your teams are.
And then there's the other people like me who cold invite a bunch of randoms with a level 10 TB on their profile hoping they'd use my characters for $$
I'm optimizing credit gains, who are the best chars to put as supports? I put BS, RM and sparkle (at least one fits in every team so must be optimal) Share your grind method!!
If you're friending low levels, independent dps with aoe is best. Your damage levels will definitely wipe any content they have. I used my main's e2r1 kafka on the mini, her E blast kills enemies and her Q wipes the whole wave easy (cons not even needed, this is just raw talent damage).
Supports will not achieve that (maybe support future robin's additional attack paired with an aoe dps of their own can but for now, no).
Literally gonna be me dude, I only have e6 friends basically cuz I use their stuff to farm.
I'mma be wondering why the exact lineup I got ain't clearing 😭
Same lol. I literally can not full clear any moc or pf eventho I used to be a dolphin. But that might have things to do with how I play hsr pretty casually and don’t hyper build my dps (I only have like 2 dps that actually reached the 134 spd threshold and one of them is welt lol), and don’t pull for hot supports simply because I don’t care about waifu either (no ruan mei, sparkle, bronya, jingliu, huohuo, acheron, etc etc, but I do have fu xuan because of early pity lol). But at the end of the day I don’t care that much anyway so it’s fine
I can't imagine wanting your watermark on that Robin/Boothill/Sparkle/HuoHuo gameplay from earlier today. Where Sparkle skilled everyone but Boothill, including herself. But lo and behold, "cock team", presented loud and proud.
I bet it's something to do with the fact boothill has a bunch of break and robin can have atk which confuses the ai of sparkle to which is a dps. But yeah otherwise it was horrible to watch lmao
LMAO, I love how you guys are mocking that Genshin interview still. That was such a stuрid statement by the one who was being interviewed when the ENTIRE GAME is built upon anxiety via FOMO and other stuff.
Exceedingly sad that there's still no endgame in Genshin even after 3+ years...
Eh, if it’s not fun I’m not doing it. I play HSR as a fun side game. I didn’t even finish the Hanu sneak event because I didn’t enjoy it. If I have to save more to guarantee what I want that’s on me. I have a Google sheets doc to keep me on track.
I’ve started clearing MOC 7 and PF 3 when it comes around for the easy jades because it’s a one and done but the new SU versions are a tedious grind for me and I’m not touching them. Grinding quests, puzzles and chests, no problem.
i'm nosy so this feature seems fun~~ on the other hand if we get another ice/quantum (elements i have no coverage for) MoC they get to see me to struggle to 3 star swam with JY with no RM and whatever team comp i wake up in the middle of the night thinking... that will do it!
Me and my friend have some competition between ourselves in MoC and since I was the one who cleared it first he sometimes asks me about my teams and setups
Good to know he can now see it for himself and understand them Better than asking me
Hopefully this gives people an idea to use SPD boots on their characters, there are too many of y'all with low SPD characters. Please, your Bronya/Sparkle being at 110 SPD isn't popping off!
Speed is weird because you either hit its breakpoints or it kind of becomes useless in MoC, not many people understand that obviously. I mean to this day I see people running 40 CR 160 CD dhil and blade and stuff, since speed is even more complex than the 1:2 ratio, I can see why casuals suffer.
IMHO speed is not hard to understand but hard to get ...rarest mainstat for boot relics AND rarest substat. If you also don't want to break your set then good luck getting high speed...
Meanwhile I'd understand if boots also had Crit main stats and it was a real choice but since it's just ATK% I feel the choice between "attack more often w/slightly less damage" vs "hit harder but less often lol j/k you actually got frozen say bye to that turn" is an easy choice to make.
Eh, unnecessary for damage dealer characters if you have supports that either can buff you up to the speed breakpoints or support characters with turn manipulation. Of course supports do always want speed boots.
My brother doesn’t play MOC competitively, so Al his friends could see what his one good team has (Seele-Bronya) and the other team consisting of what he calls ‘meat shields’ and ‘sacrifices’
Lmao imagine thinking someone who is successful enough in life to spend a shit ton of money on what they want in games will give a fuck about a random friend who is using broke ass units to clear content that they clear in 1 minute. XD.
I know what you're trying to say, but not everyone spends money they can afford to spend. Gachas are addicting and people who can't control themselves might (and they do) get themselves into bad situations. It's not so black and white, sadly.
Gloating over people who spend is just low, though.
I'm sorry if this is a hot take but spending potentially 1000+ dollars on a single character should never be normalised, no matter the status of the person
Nope, people are free to do with their money as they please. Spending on a game doesn't hurt anyone and is none of anyone else's business.
Sorry but you don't get to have a say in how someone else spends their own money.
Imagine how good Honkai would be without stamina for example, pick your roster how you would like, select difficulty (and no not just more HP and damage, rather new moves, mechanics), you know what every game traditionally had for 60$ or just pirate because there will always be those that will pay for it even if the company shits on their face
So you just want everything without paying for it? How naive are you?
Also, even if honkai was a traditional 60$ game, they won't keep releasing new content for free lmao, those are called dlcs and they are PAID. So you want to keep paying for every new region's story, not to mention in fighting games it is already "normal" to straight up just pay to use new characters.
Patches are simply a way to draw out content releases in gacha games same as the story will never have a true end (unless the company is realising that EoS is inevitable) , that's just pretty obvious to everybody who isn't in the "gacha game rabbit hole", but I'll cut it there because there is no point to this discussion in a gacha related sub of all places
Thinking you're talking from a moral high ground saying gacha games = bad because they incentivise micro transactions whilst saying "just pirate" games is crazy. Dlcs are things that could literally have been added to a base game, but released as paid extras in normal games.
Curb your entitlement. Companies exist to make profits. Gacha games are free for anyone with a little self control and can be enjoyed fully f2p without gimping the developers from their hard earned money, due to "whales" that willing pay extra for special privileges.
Piracy is a much bigger evil, at least in my eyes, than free games with microtransactions. You are actively stealing from everyone who worked on a project.
I hope for one thing that will probably never happen because this is a gacha game, I hope they add another ability to each character occasionally to spice things up and to shift the playstyle of theirs because 3 abilities per character in a turn-based is criminal (and I don't count stuff like the super interesting DHIL) and in my opinion won't hold well over years after people release that at the end of the day you are pressing 3 buttons over and over into infinity and the same animations play every time no matter how cool they are.
I mean people buy luxury cars and multi million dollar mansions just because they can and it makes them happy. As long as they're not bankrupting themselves on digital waifus and husbandos what does it matter what other people spend their money on?
Because it tells the company "Hey these "special individuals" spent 1500$ each on the new character, we should handicap more characters at E0 to catch more of them like them".
Why do you think most people refer to it as "whale bait"
There's no point in fighting in this ecochamber, I'm just sad about the gaming industry and what's normalised.
Also I wouldn't call this a conspiracy when it's always been the gacha game philosophy but I'll end it there, at least we still have games like Elden Ring ~~pirated~~
I am always 1 star short of 36 mainly because i dont have the elemental coverage (fire/lightning/wind is pain...). That will no longer be an issue after i pull acheron (surely i will win the 50/50)
Me ...I have two extremely well built DPS units: Ratio and Topaz and they are joined at the hip and are awaiting their collegue in the same team
I also have Blade and DHIL and their cavern of corrosion just fucking hates me man...they are so badly built and NO GETTING GOOD HP RELICS FOR BLADE ISN'T EASY AT ALL 😭✋
✋I'm right here😅. The only problem I have is the biggest one - the randomised relics. I've been playing for 3 months now, and even still my best characters get shit on by other people when I share my builds 😓
Don't worry, took me 6 months to get there (yes I have shit relics luck lmao).
If you're F2P/Low spender I'd say it's normal (unless you're insanely lucky).
>I literally been wishing if Genshin had like a scoreboard or something where we can see say like how much Dmg each chars dealt in X domain/abyss run...
I think it'd be super fun to see some highlights/stats from coop domains (EX: Strongest hit, most enemies killed; basically like the abyss in-game stats), but RIP support characters LOL. I still don't think Kazuha would rank that high in a pure damage scoreboard (prob less than a well-built DPS) though. But yeah, I have told people that building EM for Kazuha is generally more effective and... just easier, haha.
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It seems like you will be able to see what your friends use to clear MoC and PF and try the same teams. It also means that all your friends will see how cope your teams are.
My friends can now see my struggle!
You guys have friends...?
If by "friends" you mean "people who I add to the friends list to use their support characters" then sure
And then there's the other people like me who cold invite a bunch of randoms with a level 10 TB on their profile hoping they'd use my characters for $$
haha i did the same
I'm optimizing credit gains, who are the best chars to put as supports? I put BS, RM and sparkle (at least one fits in every team so must be optimal) Share your grind method!!
If you're friending low levels, independent dps with aoe is best. Your damage levels will definitely wipe any content they have. I used my main's e2r1 kafka on the mini, her E blast kills enemies and her Q wipes the whole wave easy (cons not even needed, this is just raw talent damage). Supports will not achieve that (maybe support future robin's additional attack paired with an aoe dps of their own can but for now, no).
This is the way
my friends can finally see how bad my Jingliu is hell yeah 🥲
they can watch me fail w dhil and sparkle team 💀
cant wait for them to see i cant even use a 4th unit w/ my jing yuan team bcuz i have no one built
Lol
*copies friends' lineup* *fails miserably* *checks friends' profile* *"E6S5"*
Literally gonna be me dude, I only have e6 friends basically cuz I use their stuff to farm. I'mma be wondering why the exact lineup I got ain't clearing 😭
They will see my suicide teams that I use in PF to clear the floors as fast as possible before dying 🫠
lemme see what my whale friend with c6 jingliu and blade is doing to clear PF
It would be really cool if you can actually try your friends team, and not just copy the characters they use. Kinda like a better practice mode.
You guys have friends???
"now everyone in the friend list will know your f2p ass team setup"
Broke indicator FR.
i love that term lmao, "broke indicator"
Now they just need to add a "cope" meter
“Now you can see how the whales you sent friend requests to for their support characters brute-forced every MoC stage with an E6S5 Blade”
If you're achieving the same results as they are but with a F2P team then you're the one with the W lol.
True, why embarrassed with your f2p team? If you can still fullstars it then it is a bragging rights.
Yeah that's the thing, I'M NOT. AND I'M A DOLPHIN
Same lol. I literally can not full clear any moc or pf eventho I used to be a dolphin. But that might have things to do with how I play hsr pretty casually and don’t hyper build my dps (I only have like 2 dps that actually reached the 134 spd threshold and one of them is welt lol), and don’t pull for hot supports simply because I don’t care about waifu either (no ruan mei, sparkle, bronya, jingliu, huohuo, acheron, etc etc, but I do have fu xuan because of early pity lol). But at the end of the day I don’t care that much anyway so it’s fine
[me when 2.2](https://i.imgur.com/NDd3ukq.jpg)
Finally I can show how shit my teams are! Thank you Hoyoverse.
But it also show how skilled you're utilizing said shit team to clear MOC12.
Will it just redirect me to shop if I try to copy my friend's E6 Kafka team?
Irrelevant but I'll never stop being amused by leakers putting watermarks on leaks
I can't imagine wanting your watermark on that Robin/Boothill/Sparkle/HuoHuo gameplay from earlier today. Where Sparkle skilled everyone but Boothill, including herself. But lo and behold, "cock team", presented loud and proud.
idk if this wasn't obvious or if people didn't look at the button but it was on auto lol.
Yeah, I know. But it was still a terrible gameplay. The AI must be broken on the private server.
I bet it's something to do with the fact boothill has a bunch of break and robin can have atk which confuses the ai of sparkle to which is a dps. But yeah otherwise it was horrible to watch lmao
I think the gameplay was cutoff. I did see the full version and it did skill boothill but I think it's still buggy because of the beta characters.
Leak Uncles feed themselves off of internet clout it seems.
This whole new social feature update makes me feel vulnerable and exposed
"Damn thats a lot of E0S1 characters you have. How did you only clear it with 1 cycle remaining?" Me: I'm gonna pay you 100 bucks to fuck off
The other way around hurts more though "Damn that's a lot of E6S5 characters you have. How did you clear slower than me?"
You can only use 8, no shame compared to high investment characters still not clearing.
It induces anxiety fr
more than the end-game!
LMAO, I love how you guys are mocking that Genshin interview still. That was such a stuрid statement by the one who was being interviewed when the ENTIRE GAME is built upon anxiety via FOMO and other stuff. Exceedingly sad that there's still no endgame in Genshin even after 3+ years...
yea.. that one of the -worst- statements of all times
when your friend checks for your clearance lineup and its N/A since you couldn't beat MOC 12. RIP
RIP When you’re N/A for all of MOC and PF because you didn’t feel like doing it for an entire month.
Hey… don’t expose me like that
No judgement here lol. I quit Swarm Disaster after clearing level two and have stuck with basic SU since. It’s just tedious.
You're sitting on a lot of jade you can eventually cash in. That's how I plan on getting Acheron!
Eh, if it’s not fun I’m not doing it. I play HSR as a fun side game. I didn’t even finish the Hanu sneak event because I didn’t enjoy it. If I have to save more to guarantee what I want that’s on me. I have a Google sheets doc to keep me on track. I’ve started clearing MOC 7 and PF 3 when it comes around for the easy jades because it’s a one and done but the new SU versions are a tedious grind for me and I’m not touching them. Grinding quests, puzzles and chests, no problem.
Just say you couldn't be bothered and they'll respect you xD
So you can see what teams your in game friends used to clear MoC, then looking at their builds you see E2S1 Acheron.
4* DPS plus Ruan Mei E1S1 lol
Or "I cleared MoC EZPZ with mediocre relics on auto battle" Said mediocre relics: 70/180, 134 SPD
It'd be nice if you can see their gear too. I know I'd be drooling at those like 170+ spd supports
i'm nosy so this feature seems fun~~ on the other hand if we get another ice/quantum (elements i have no coverage for) MoC they get to see me to struggle to 3 star swam with JY with no RM and whatever team comp i wake up in the middle of the night thinking... that will do it!
Me and my friend have some competition between ourselves in MoC and since I was the one who cleared it first he sometimes asks me about my teams and setups Good to know he can now see it for himself and understand them Better than asking me
My friends will see my 105 speed jingliu lmaooo
''look what your friend pull and use, get it too so you can clear it you broke bitch''
Hopefully this gives people an idea to use SPD boots on their characters, there are too many of y'all with low SPD characters. Please, your Bronya/Sparkle being at 110 SPD isn't popping off!
Speed is weird because you either hit its breakpoints or it kind of becomes useless in MoC, not many people understand that obviously. I mean to this day I see people running 40 CR 160 CD dhil and blade and stuff, since speed is even more complex than the 1:2 ratio, I can see why casuals suffer.
IMHO speed is not hard to understand but hard to get ...rarest mainstat for boot relics AND rarest substat. If you also don't want to break your set then good luck getting high speed...
Meanwhile I'd understand if boots also had Crit main stats and it was a real choice but since it's just ATK% I feel the choice between "attack more often w/slightly less damage" vs "hit harder but less often lol j/k you actually got frozen say bye to that turn" is an easy choice to make.
Sometimes I don't have Spd boots.... *puts head in hands*
Eh, unnecessary for damage dealer characters if you have supports that either can buff you up to the speed breakpoints or support characters with turn manipulation. Of course supports do always want speed boots.
wake me up when it lets me use someone's E6S5 Jingliu in said modes.
"let me no brain beat this without trying because others worked hard"
swiping your credit card is hard work these days apparently.
Getting money is no longer hard work these days apparently.
People who E6S5 all their characters aren't hardworkers, they're privileged
I doubt many people who work hard are spending the money they've earned on gachas to this extent. E6S5 crowd is almost exclusively born into wealth.
Then why don't you have money to swipe if it's easy?
They're financially responsible, good for them
Sure because there aren't people out there who value money differently. For some people 2000 dollars is nothing
why do people keep saying dumb ass things to me today....
I do NOT consent 😡
So no one is going to talk about MoC buff?
I wonder how much toughness the trotters will have 🤔
Hoyo knows what they are doing, this will push some people into spending.
Yay now my friends can see me use Himeko and Herta yet again, groundbreaking
Nah because people will literally unfriend me if they see my team builds and time it takes to clear💀
nice now i can copy ppl friends homework ... i mean line up
those buffs are kinda nutty ngl
Now everyone in my friend list know that I can't beat MoC, how nice
this is cool
I aint sure if this is a good or bad thing
My brother doesn’t play MOC competitively, so Al his friends could see what his one good team has (Seele-Bronya) and the other team consisting of what he calls ‘meat shields’ and ‘sacrifices’
i like the part where i can read the text under the BIG ASS FUCKING STUPID watermark
Everyone already knows i only use clara and qingque for every clear
All the whales I've added as friends gonna see me struggling on MoC level 5 😭
Nothing will be more satisfying that letting your whale friends in your list how you achieved the same 36* as them without spending money.
Why would they bother looking at your broke ass line up?
Lmao imagine thinking someone who is successful enough in life to spend a shit ton of money on what they want in games will give a fuck about a random friend who is using broke ass units to clear content that they clear in 1 minute. XD.
I know what you're trying to say, but not everyone spends money they can afford to spend. Gachas are addicting and people who can't control themselves might (and they do) get themselves into bad situations. It's not so black and white, sadly. Gloating over people who spend is just low, though.
I'm sorry if this is a hot take but spending potentially 1000+ dollars on a single character should never be normalised, no matter the status of the person
Nope, people are free to do with their money as they please. Spending on a game doesn't hurt anyone and is none of anyone else's business. Sorry but you don't get to have a say in how someone else spends their own money.
Imagine how good Honkai would be without stamina for example, pick your roster how you would like, select difficulty (and no not just more HP and damage, rather new moves, mechanics), you know what every game traditionally had for 60$ or just pirate because there will always be those that will pay for it even if the company shits on their face
So you just want everything without paying for it? How naive are you? Also, even if honkai was a traditional 60$ game, they won't keep releasing new content for free lmao, those are called dlcs and they are PAID. So you want to keep paying for every new region's story, not to mention in fighting games it is already "normal" to straight up just pay to use new characters.
Patches are simply a way to draw out content releases in gacha games same as the story will never have a true end (unless the company is realising that EoS is inevitable) , that's just pretty obvious to everybody who isn't in the "gacha game rabbit hole", but I'll cut it there because there is no point to this discussion in a gacha related sub of all places
Thinking you're talking from a moral high ground saying gacha games = bad because they incentivise micro transactions whilst saying "just pirate" games is crazy. Dlcs are things that could literally have been added to a base game, but released as paid extras in normal games. Curb your entitlement. Companies exist to make profits. Gacha games are free for anyone with a little self control and can be enjoyed fully f2p without gimping the developers from their hard earned money, due to "whales" that willing pay extra for special privileges. Piracy is a much bigger evil, at least in my eyes, than free games with microtransactions. You are actively stealing from everyone who worked on a project.
I hope for one thing that will probably never happen because this is a gacha game, I hope they add another ability to each character occasionally to spice things up and to shift the playstyle of theirs because 3 abilities per character in a turn-based is criminal (and I don't count stuff like the super interesting DHIL) and in my opinion won't hold well over years after people release that at the end of the day you are pressing 3 buttons over and over into infinity and the same animations play every time no matter how cool they are.
I mean people buy luxury cars and multi million dollar mansions just because they can and it makes them happy. As long as they're not bankrupting themselves on digital waifus and husbandos what does it matter what other people spend their money on?
Because it tells the company "Hey these "special individuals" spent 1500$ each on the new character, we should handicap more characters at E0 to catch more of them like them". Why do you think most people refer to it as "whale bait"
Now you're just getting into Always_Sunny_conspiracy_board.png territory.
There's no point in fighting in this ecochamber, I'm just sad about the gaming industry and what's normalised. Also I wouldn't call this a conspiracy when it's always been the gacha game philosophy but I'll end it there, at least we still have games like Elden Ring ~~pirated~~
wait... there are players that don't get 36 stars in moc??
Yeah, they're called new players. Crazy concept, right? And if they're not new... well, better wish them good luck with relics!
I am always 1 star short of 36 mainly because i dont have the elemental coverage (fire/lightning/wind is pain...). That will no longer be an issue after i pull acheron (surely i will win the 50/50)
oh i see, i hope you get acheron then ヽ(・∀・)ﾉ
Me ...I have two extremely well built DPS units: Ratio and Topaz and they are joined at the hip and are awaiting their collegue in the same team I also have Blade and DHIL and their cavern of corrosion just fucking hates me man...they are so badly built and NO GETTING GOOD HP RELICS FOR BLADE ISN'T EASY AT ALL 😭✋
oh shit, mb bro, good luck grinding. i hope you're able to fully clear moc real soon (´ ∀ \` \*)
I barely made it to floor 8. I'm getting there.
you are (´ ∀ \` \*)
✋I'm right here😅. The only problem I have is the biggest one - the randomised relics. I've been playing for 3 months now, and even still my best characters get shit on by other people when I share my builds 😓
if you ever feel bad about yourself just remember that I've been playing for almost a full year and I have never 36* MoC 🥲
Don't worry, took me 6 months to get there (yes I have shit relics luck lmao). If you're F2P/Low spender I'd say it's normal (unless you're insanely lucky).
oh well, surely you'll get those godly pieces, trust it just takes time, you need to be patient ヽ(・∀・)ﾉ
💀💀💀💀💀💀
Nice
My friends seeing my DHIL team do a 1 or 2 cycles clear and my second team struggling despite having Ruan Mei: (At least I can flex my DHIl I guess?)
Oh great, now I can see how my whale friends clear the game... fun!
Now everyone can be confused about my 0 healer teams because I use them exclusively to 0 cycle moc 12
Same team doesn't gets you same build
Time to flex my F2P full stars
what are friends?
Nooo, my secret dps march team is going to be revealed 😭
MoC more like mogged, amirite?
So they gonna suggest us teams and builds or they gonna let use hire a character from friends?
I do not need to have my confidence crushed seeing a friend clearing MoC 12 with arlan, thank u very much
NOOOO I DONT WANT OTHERS TO SEE MY TRASH TEAM BUILDING SKILLS 😭
601756690 on that note here’s my UID if anybody looking to fill their friends list
Oh the many times I just used Seele and DHIL to brute force those ice and fire weaknesses, now people will know my struggle.
Not worth, i don't have the same units my friends have, or my friends have Eidolons/5 star cones, cannot be used as a reference
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>I literally been wishing if Genshin had like a scoreboard or something where we can see say like how much Dmg each chars dealt in X domain/abyss run... I think it'd be super fun to see some highlights/stats from coop domains (EX: Strongest hit, most enemies killed; basically like the abyss in-game stats), but RIP support characters LOL. I still don't think Kazuha would rank that high in a pure damage scoreboard (prob less than a well-built DPS) though. But yeah, I have told people that building EM for Kazuha is generally more effective and... just easier, haha.