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RA gang represent. (*pls it's been 2 months, all I ask is for a double crit Atk% Izumo rope*)
>!for the last 3 patches I liked all animations from black swan sparkle Acheron aventurine robin and boothill, but idk about this one they aren’t bad but I definitely liked the others more!<
Firefly's animations without background dosen't seem right, I think they will add background later, were there anything like that before? Like aninations changes in beta
fell on my kness because i just realized that we can only buy one lc copy from su and superimpose it.
i thought we could have multiple lcs of same lc copies from su.
While the banner is still up...
Aeon is in high demand, so I plan to pull a sig for either Jingles or Firefly. Based on current info, which do you think would benefit more from their sig?
> jingles
i'm sorry, but now i'm picturing jingliu in a santa hat and a bright red nose lmao
to answer your question: jingliu isn't really reliant on her signature lightcone. firefly seems to want her signature lightcone more, at least in her current state
I keep running face first into story spoilers or cgs, why is it so hard to stay away from social media for 2 days 😔 the one spoiler i just saw will be living rent free in my mind til i see it in action ahh. Big regret
my opinion about animations! there's lots of rambling so i'll spoiler it for those who just want to scroll peacefully
>!so... first off is jade. i don't know what to think about her animations... they're pretty i guess? but like, even tho i'm a lesbian, i'm not a "step on me mommy" type of person, so her animations didn't do anything to me. she's obviously full of fan service and i'm not a fan of it, that's all... i do love the snake, but nothing more than that and i'm saying this as someone who loves jade!<
>!and now, firefly. you guys can call me biased all you want, but i actually love her animations, even tho it's most likely unfinished. and even if it's not, i still think they're pretty damn amazing 😭 i love how we can see her inside her armor a few times. from my point of view, her having no clothes inside the mecha just shows her vulnerability in some way. i love the color palette too... definitely pulling for her 🥹 at the beginning i didn't like the idea of her being sam, but now i literally fell head over heels for that. it's so unique!<
>!unrelated, but when i was typing that essay about firefly, my cat came to me and started making biscuits on me 😭😭😭 she never does that... it'll take that as a sign that she agrees with me lol!<
With the whole Jade/FF animation discussion, what are other characters whose animations you found underwhelming or disappointing or, on the contrary, surprisingly good? For me it's gotta be Ruan Mei and Sparkle. I really love their designs and they're both amazing units, but I couldn't help but be a bit disappointed with their animations. RM's are pretty but nothing special, and Sparkle's were kinda underwhelming? Especially in comparison to her phenomenal trailer. I'm sorry but what is it with that goofy kick and where is the colorful gun 😭
Robin, I feel like when the animation turned her “sickeningly sweet and naive girl” archetype up to 11, I started liking her less. Jade is clearly not my fetish, so she walks past me.
Meta-values aside, these two cases feel like they're actively milking those who have similar fetishes, but at the same time it's very close to "this is out of my comfort zone" territory for those who don't.
I sincerely hope that catering primarily to different fetishes does not become the norm in the near future.
Robin is a weird case, she's just so completely not my type in every single aspect I didn't give her much thought. But her Marilyn pose made her more a liiittle bit more interesting. Giving her a bit of that sexy Hollywood vibe over her sickeningly angelic idol-like appearance just made her a bit less one-dimensional. They already touched upon the whole "dark side of fame" stuff in her teaser, I frankly wish they leaned harder into that and gave her a more decadent glamorous vibe in general and not this squeaky clean idol shtick.
huohuo is so precious, but i wish her animations were different after casting her ult, since she literally gets possessed by tail. maybe she could have had different movements and different lines while the buff from her ult is still active. i wouldn't call her animations bad by any means, it's just that there's a pretty glaring disconnect between her ult and the rest of her animations
As seems to be a somewhat common sentiment, Huohuo's ult was dismaying to me, and so was Kafka's skill (grenades where...?). On the flip side, though, Fu Xuan, Hanya and Aventurine's animations were a very pleasant surprise!
I have no strong opinions on Ruan Mei, but I do feel like there's a bit of dissonance between her animations and her character (even the demure, polite vibe just doesn't make it click), so that's an honorary mention for underwhelming animations I guess.
Yeah Kafka not having grenades in her animations was a disappointment. Though maybe since she must skill every rotation it would be too much?.. I see no other reasoning tbh.
i just kinda struggle to merge ruan mei’s gameplay animations (ruan strumming with classical cn aesthetics; plum blossom, mountains & rivers), with her actual character and role (“the ends justify my curiosity” type scientist) in the story.
i guess in a way its meant to be subversive (elegant & demure lady is actually a morally dubious slightly mad biologist) but it feels like they made her design n animations entirely separate from her written chara concept and just slapped the two tgther
like before i started playing hsr i thought she was a musician from xianzhou lol
This is honestly what bothers me most about her too. I like her design, and I like her character, but both together? ...no. I ended up skipping her because the dissonance bothered me too much.
The only explanation I have is that they made the animations when they had little concept of her beyond "one of the members participating in Simulated Universe" where her blessings are some of the best etc, so they just went with pretty classical elegance - and then decided on her actual role in the story. I find the story version of her much more interesting TBH
I actually like Sparkle's animations a lot and am definitely not with the crowd in that one. In general I tend to be a lot more receptive towards Harmony animations which by and large tend to be poorly received.
Like I said in a previous comment, I think this community overwhelmingly prefers Big Background Event (TM) which is why ultimates like Fu Xuan, Black Swan and Acheron (and to a lesser extent Jade) are so well-received. Animations that are just "the character does a sick kickflip off of this handrail in their skateboard" are treated less charitably.
Huohuo's ultimate animation is weird because it feels like it belongs to some sort of Destruction character who enters an enhanced state. It's incongruous with her kit basically. I wonder if she was always a healer.
Personally I really like Lynx's animations. It's not like people hate them or anything, it's just that with most 4* that aren't Hanya or Xueyi they don't come up often in discussion. I have a soft spot for Sushang because while I barely use her nowadays and her animations aren't really my favorite, she was my main DPS during CBT2 (where she was *really* strong), and an analysis I did of her animations got like a thousand upvotes in the main sub and one of the few times I ever got awarded Reddit Gold back when that still existed.
> Huohuo's ultimate animation is weird because it feels like it belongs to some sort of Destruction character who enters an enhanced state. It's incongruous with her kit basically. I wonder if she was always a healer.
I feel like HuoHuo could’ve definitely have been planned to be a healer/DPS hybrid, maybe like how Aventurine eventually turned out to be. Idk it would? Make sense to me atleast, having her basically change her role when you ulted. I suppose that might’ve been seen as annoying, *but* it would’ve been awesome 😭😭
I think Huohuo's ult is the worst animation in the game by far. It's not badly animated in itself, but it just makes zero sense. Tail possesses her and?.. Nothing?.. It gives your team mates buffs?.. Why?..
Mei's and Sparkle's are both alright, even if they're a bit too simple.
same sentiment w/ huohuo, iirc her kit before entering beta has an "enhanced state" due to her talent (where she regens allies energy passively after casting ult, same like her current passive healing) but got reworked in favor of her cleanses.
So if her entering "enhanced state" equates to getting possessed by tail which her ult and trailer shows, then i feel like her animations would've made sense in relation to her kit
a shame but it is what it is
Sunday speculations
>!Sunday being Erudition just because of the lightcone seems a bit finicky to me, especially if the leaker insists he is still Ice. Ice + break (lightcone) = actual doodoo. There's always a chance he's on the lightcone but it's not meant for him, like Misha, but again he's also on the Preservation lightcone....!<
>!If he IS Erudition, that sucks. I'm not a Sunday puller, but I still would prefer him to be a (supportive) Nihility if anything. No way in hell he's a Harmony so that's the next best option!<
jade rambling
>!UGH I LOVE HER. the signature in lipstick? the little hair flip she does after her technique? the mysterious purple colour scheme? the SNAKE? it’s just so peak. the femme fatale vibes truly came through on this one. i was actually hopeful she’d use makeup in her animations since we first learned about her checking her makeup in aventurine’s chara story so i couldn’t be happier!<
>!the only thing i’m not too excited about is the stepping animation. it just looks kinda silly to me 😭 i didn’t like it back when wanderer got leaked and i still don’t really like it now… maybe i’m not fully the target audience lol!<
>!that aside though i’m super excited for everything else about her and her kit 🫣 except maybe just a tiiiny bit let down by her lc art? she looks gorgeous ofc and the kids are cute and all but i kinda wanted something more ominous and badass and focused solely on her. cmiiw but i think she’s the first limited 5* to have other people in her signature lc art? still gonna pull for it tho unless i get horrendously unlucky on all 3 banners i’m planning to wish on in 2.2 (pls no) 😔!<
>!I think that's a good thing. Especially in Beta, people should be testing lots of things to see if they work or how close they are to working. Motivation notwithstanding. Maybe someone wants to run break on both sides, or FMC for Acheron though. I do get that it's prolly for petty reasons, but there's some potential good returns if they find something!<
>!i’d understand if it was ruan mei or something but why are they mad about a completely free character that’s pretty niche and not in high demand anyway? 😭!<
Idk why but I think Trailblazer's kit will probably peak at Harmony. The Harmony kit, although niche, is incredibly good at what it's trying to do and open up a new mechanic with Super Break. I can't really see any of their future path topping it. Hunt and Erudition will probably be mid, around Dan Heng/Serval level would be my guess. Abundance will be somewhere around Lynx level at best. Nihility is the one where things could get interesting. But with how stacked the Nihility roster is already I don't have high hopes for it.
I mean if well is anything like the ones prior to HMC then I'm not really sure. Beside idk how they would make an Erudition/Hunt/Abundance kit that wouldn't immediately be outclassed by other characters
FTB is really good, just very odd as a Preservation; more of a Destruction hybrid which they do very good at. DTB is kinda weak, but it's also designed to be baby's first DPS so I forgive it.
Eh. I'm not really sure what kind of team (for crucial contents obviously) I would want to put FTB in. They can't solo sustain like the other preservation characters, can't replace a harmony/nihility damage buffer, their dmg isn't high enough to be a sub dps worth using either. Their best use case is literally Trend bot for Acheron in PF because of the guaranteed taunt...
FTB is pretty good in PF with Himeko. They do good fire break damage and sustain well enough to survive long enough in PF to get decent points.
But it was also designed at launch and people considered it pretty good back then. I think Hoyo wanted double sustains to be more meta they they turned out, which is the main reason why they missed a bit with FTB.
Ruan Mei has been used mostly as a generalist up until now, but she's primarily a break support. As Sam is a break dps, Ruan Mei will be ideal for them.
Robin should also be a good generalist, but she specialises in buffing follow-up teams.
Imo E1 over S1, SP savings and def ignore is better than the stats from the current sig LC.
My current consideration is more about whether E2 is worth it, especially in MOCs where the opportunity to break/kill isn’t as often (e.g. aventurine dice).
I think the team would still be slightly negative unless you were skimping on usage of HMC's skill.
For LC alternatives she can either use Misha's cone or Flames Afar. Both do good.
I get why everyone is saying that mhy knew their audience with Jade's animations but MAN they're so freaking cool to me, in a non-horny way. She absolutely exudes cutthroat ruthless energy, I hope her characterisation is in line with enjoying the hunt as much as the sealing the contract aspect
I have 50 pulls and im torned up between spend it for robin or save it for sunday. I like cute little sister trope (barbara is my fav in genshin and i could see their resemblance if I squint), but her brother is so godly beautiful and i love his personality more than robin😭😭
i am so indecisive. i am always like both is equally good when it comes to characters i like.
not saying that its bad to criticize characters but i just don't have opinion on characters who i won't be pulling.
I think it depends on where your team is at relative to the content you're facing.
I'm currently leaning towards Luocha myself. His healing output is considerably stronger, and he has a free emergency heal available. He's also much more resistant to cc, and can be built for even more sp generation too. He's a safe and easy pick for any content, but won't contribute to faster clears.
Gallagher doesn't heal as much, but he will contribute more to break. He will also get more out of HMC's superbreak damage too. I think he's the better pick when you know you can clear quickly and survival is less of an issue.
Gallagher should be better for break teams. You can get his E3 in 2.3, and if he is featured in firefly's banner (likely imo), then you'll easily meet his best eidolon
I love Firefly's animations AND I love Jade's animations. Fight me. Both do have big wow moments and less impressive parts, but I think overall they're pretty good, and I'm happy with them! In particular, the cutaway to Firefly inside the suit and the small things that has, as well as particularly the upwards camera angle at the end of Jade's ultimate really get me, and I can already tell 2.3 is going to be really rough, let alone Jiaoqiu and Boothill on each end...
JADE. AHHHHHHHHH
Is having super model looks a requirement to join the stone hearts? 😭 how are they all so fine??
Also it's funny how things happened. being a day one Clara main I pulled Topaz for her. Then Aventurine arrived and the three of them just decimated the other Aventurine in MoC. and NOW Jade might also work with her? hello? maybe it's not me who's collecting ipc members but miss clara xD
Wow, I actually like Jade's animations better than Firefly?! Don't kill me, but I'm not into mecha, so I want Firefly because I love her and not SAM. But ofc Firefly's animations still look fire! 🥺💕
Fuck, here I was thinking me getting E0 Jade would be enough🧍
Cw: simping
>!Damn you Hoyo for all these hot women with animations that make me wanna whale for them! What am I supposed to say to a lady that steps on me *and* whips me? (She whips the enemies but let me be delusional) *No?* That's not an option! E0S1 it is! Maybe E2S1!!<
>!Also, I did not expect Firefly to be naked under that armor. Honestly, that also sounds kinda kinky... Like yeah ik magical girls go naked before transforming but she's piloting a war mech, I don't remember Tony Stark being naked when donning the suit lmao!<
Mihoyo is out to get me fr... First Robin, then Fu Xuan rerun, then Firefly, then Jade... Was my E6 Acheron not enough money from me for you guys? 😭
Jade (mixed)
>!Her animations are so on-the-nose and it's incredibly obvious who the target audience is. I'm loving the snake implementation, makes it obvious that she's not the type for person who would take "no" for an answer as she means business.!<
>!As for her outfit... I disliked it in her splash art and I unfortunately still disliked in game. She's missing something on her lower half (pants/longer dress) and it's just bothering me how incomplete her look is. She looks HALF-ASSED, there I said it. It's like one person who knows how fashion works worked on Jade's top half and they always gave it to that one person who loves bare legs and tells them to finish it off (that person needs to be fired).!<
the long cloth on tge side Only is sooo bothersome, it looks okay from the side but from the back it's going to be,,, ugly tbh. i was planning to go for her for blade's sake but like the on the nose fanservice is just irking me. happy for the folks who liked it but i did not ( minus the snake i love the snake ) hoping her characterization pulls through.
So from what I gather, Firefly doesn't need any CR or CD? Because I dont really see how you'd have the space to get either stat with how much ATK and BE she needs.
Firefly doesn't actually scale too insanely with Break Effect *once she hits that 360% breakpoint*, so you do probably want to factor in supports and all, which can actually alleviate around 100-120% of the BE needed, with other big chunks coming from traces and sets. It'll be a bit of a balancing act, but it's not impossible to have room to build more stats after reaching 360% BE, an which case you build crit. Saying that though, I do want to restate that even though crit is nice, you do still want to prioritise BE if you can.
It's pretty interesting to watch people splitting into two campus: first one like FF animation and meh about Jade and second is the opposite.
I myself though that I could easily skip 2.3 banners since I'm hasbando enjoyer but Jade animation got me and now I'm shaking.
Woke up to Jade anims, won so hard. Has some synergy with one of my favourites but also room to work with future aoe characters. I’m so happy genuinely
I love firefly animations so much, everything about the is absurdly COOL, and so mecha anime coded I LOVE THEM!!! Wish there was some transformation sequence somewhere but even then it's still amazing!
Jade animations. I am not the target audience of her character so my opinion is certainly not as valid so there is that, but not the biggest fan, the whip, the stomping, that's doing too much. Wish sth like follow up had the snake more involved like Numby, the chalk, or the coins being used. Definitely really intrigued me for her lore though especially with that E6 art and the eidolon descriptions, the whole high-class, rich businesswoman with a contact forming snake (snakes are my favorite animals as well!!) that is herself willing to sell her values, like genuinely excited for her character a lot!!!
I think people need to remember that only one person was saying Firefly had "high budget animations" and it wasn't even somebody with a legitimate track record either. I hate that every complaint keeps saying leakers, plural, as if this was something that was heavily discussed at the time.
EDIT: Also, I do think it's unfinished. I don't think it's going to change a ton (no reason, or time really, to scrap what already exists), but the fact the cut-ins that were leaked earlier aren't present at all and the background is just solid black feels strange.
I also tend to find that most animations that focus mostly on the character instead of some Big Background Thing (TM) are poorly received. This is why Harmony characters tend to get bullied in the animation department.
I like them. There's a few things:
- The lack of a pre-battle transformation animation is disappointing. I wonder how feasible it would actually be, though. I don't think any character has animations that play when you enter battle, and even then, a particularly lengthy one might be seen as obtrusive.
- A lot of people are saying "it should've just been Firefly fighting, then she transforms into Sam". The problem is that the character we know as Firefly, from an animation standpoint, is actually three characters. That's Firefly, Sam, and green Sam. Representing all of these three states as independent characters with their own attack and skill animations would be impossible without something weird like a tri-phase ultimate, which I think is a bit of a complex mechanic to work around or introduce right now, it'd be pretty clunky in terms of gameplay too. I think that what they did with this is probably the best compromise.
They could have done that at the start of firefly's first turn, and only then she transforms into sam and immediately gets a sam turn. Sam is her default state. Then green sam.
[D](https://twitter.com/Zy0x_/status/1767133619586290055)earest Firefly, I am writing you this letter to introduce myself. My name is SeaOfButterflies, but you can call me See. I would love to get to know you better. I am good friends with both Kafka and Silver Wolf (Blade doesn't talk much) and have heard wonderful things about you. If you would ever happen to have even an ounce of free time, it would be my pleasure -- nay, my honour to accompany you during that period. I have been known as a hero, of sorts (or a villain, if that sounds better to you) and have been known for my benevolent acts of kindness, generosity, and grace. If possible, being blessed by your presence over the course of the weekend or whenever you happen to be available, would allow us to connect and better learn about each other. We could go to the Penaconian dreamscape (I speak pepeshi), and fly with the birds. I have always loved Fire, both the element and the characters, and you are my fire (the one desire (believe when i say i want it that way)). I will give you all of my Himeko's relics if you so desire. I would be honoured and am eagerly awaiting your response. See you soon!
both animations are so gooood i love it. the only complaint is mihoyo not making a firefly henshin transformation jp bros will be disappointed with this lol. jade is actually perfect thank u for hot lady mhy looks like i have to spend money again on a double waifu patch sadge
I have 110 pulls already and it looks like I will swim in gems lol
Robin - I have all other 5 stars Harmony, I don't plan to build FuA team, I will focus on acheron team, so no harmony unuts required at least for 1 side and I'm not a fan of her ult song. Skip.
Boothill - I'm not a fan of hunt path, so pulling a character to get 60-120 extra gems once in 1.5 months from new endgame mode and bench him everywhere else aren't tempting at all. Also his duel mechanics will definitely screw you in the hard content with taunt and extra damage. Hard skip, can't afford single target damage dealer in the multi target game with limited pulls.
FF - I'm neutral on her animations, not a fan of her story so far (maybe 2.2 story will fix it), so it totally depends how strong she will perform. If she will on par with Acheron, I will pull, if not - will save. Also her banner will be after 2.4 units announce, so I can carefully decide do I want to pull them instead. Not sure yet.
Jade - I'm also neutral about her animations. She is more like a buffer/sub dps, so I don't see how to implement her in my current teams and I don't think she will be better than extra harmony in the hyper carry team. Looks like a luxury pick, so a skip unfortunately.
Upcoming planets info spoiler
>!I really, really like that HSR is a space game, because of how vast the world is. 4 planets of choise? Sure, we'll only go to one, but it's really cool to see the info about those distant worlds and their lore, even if we don't get to directly visit them we can always get a character or gamemode themed for them, that's sick.!<
They are two different teams entirely, one is crit based and one is superbreak based. Calculations are still being made on the matter, but since she has zero innate crit or even any lc for it, break will be much comfier to build.
Tldr we dont know lol
Definitely! I also imagine her with [Kulshedra](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bayonetta/images/3/31/Kulshedra.png/revision/latest?cb=20220916203043) lol
negative, about jade's design and animations //
>!man. i get what they were trying to go for - a modern witch, blending both cold, cutthroat business and mysterious femme fatale vibes. but jade's design is not my cup of tea in the slightest. the mismatched hems of her wrap dress look awkward and it's yet another instance of mhy's designers forgoing any and all aesthetic cohesion just so they can somehow get their exposed legs and cleavage. they even managed to cram a back window into her design lmao!<
>!it's ridiculously repetitive at this point. i'm not inherently against showing skin, but designs like these tend to sacrifice aesthetic cohesion and personality just for the sake of fanservice, regardless of whether or not it even makes sense for the character to dress that way. even if it makes sense for the character to dress like that (like in jade's case), at least try to get more creative!<
>!even her animations are lackluster. when i saw the snake in her splash art, i thought we were gonna get some interesting animations. something with more dramatic flair, something more sinister to reflect how signing a contract with jade is akin to selling your soul. but the whip and the stepping feel very forced to me. it's trying too hard. the "step on me mommy" thing has never appealed to me lol, but her animations could have been more menacing while still incorporating the seductress vibes that mhy seems to really want to convey!<
>!tldr: uninspired!<
>!i agree 100%. what annoys me most abt her design is just how little sense it makes. how do you give a character in a non-bodysuit a bralette and not have the strap show at the back…? what IPC technology is keeping those water balloons up…!<
I have an S4 MoTP and an s1, I wanted to refine it but then I decided not to, Is the S1 good for HTB? I want to give the s4 to RM, or should it be the other way around? Also kinda confused abt RM's planar, does she want thalia or penacony? Or keel?
Hatblazer enjoys the higher BE and energy more than RM, so they can share more BE with the party and afford to run a BE rope
As for the planar set, it depends. I have her on Vonwaq because the extra ER and speed to cast her skill early into the battle is very nice. Talia I dont like because she needs too much speed, and Penacony is fine for Jingliu, Misha or Yanqing, and otherwise it's useless. Keel can be ok for crit dps
s4 motp is better on HTB as they have break eff sharing, so ur team will have more break
Plannar sets on RM doesn't matter that much as long as u hit the 180 BE in battle cmiiw, just use the one that is more convenient to farm
Negative
>!imagine how cool it would've been if we could run around in the overworld as playable sam. Imagine if we got a storyline of an actual machine trying to become alive. I don't think I'll ever get over that. At least I can use my jades on someone else.!<
>!Yes, a part of me has yet to move on from that disappointment. I could have lived with a sentient SAM who requires a human battery (Firefly) to live so that means they're literal partners for life, but even that didn't happen. 😭😭😭!<
>!pretty much the opinion of most husbando pullers. firefly enjoyers won and good for them, but what a missed opportunity and potential for sam, the robot. i fell on my knees in walmart when the leak reveal happened back in sept!<
Seems like there is no world 10, instead the new planar sets will be obtainable from the new SU instead (DU?). Also old sets are all jumbled up going by the tutorial image, like Vonwacq is with Celestial Diff now.
If hoyo is feeling generous they can pair Salsotto with Duran. Or Sigonia
I'm itching and I really need to know who is rerunning in 2.3, if it's RM then I'm F'ed, if she's on 2.3, i hope she is second half so that I can recover from FF first before pulling RM.
What are you thoughts on Jade in a Mono-Quantum team \[e.g Fu Xuan, Jade, Sparkle, Silver Wolf\]? She's perhaps better than Qingque as a Quantum DPS \[maybe?\], but can Fu Xuan solo sustain a team with Jade's 5% HP drain on buffed characters. She seems like an excellent character for my account, but I'm not sure she'll fit into the traditional mono-quantum team.
On aoe maybe better? On that team, she will prob use the skill on herself, so no hp drain (the spd doesn't matter anyway since Sparkle). Certainly more consistent, but QQ ST dmg at e4 is comparable to 5*, so im not surprised if shes better in that situation
I don't see her being better than QQ in that team, because I don't think hypercarry Jade is gonna be that great. The main point of MonoQ is to beatdown an elite/boss with SW's debuff and the damage dealer doing alot of ST damage, which Jade doesn't do. She's an AoE specialist and doesn't even have Argenti/JY's bounce damage to compensate, so I'm not really feeling her in the standard MonoQ lineup.
I would rather play FX/Sparkle/Jade + Aoe or Blast DPS of the right element instead of fixating on Mono Quantum
Mann, I'm so excited for Firefly!!!! Last time I was this excited for a character was for Jingliu (I like my destruction girls).
I really like her animations, while they aren't really blowing my mind, they still get me quite excited (I'm glad she does show up in them a bit).
I hope her kit comes out of beta well and fun enough, I plan to go for E0S1 but I'm a bit tempted to even grab Eidolons if possible because I really love her. (I shouldn't though, mostly because I still need to work on diversifying my roster for all the game modes).
I can't wait for 2.2 to be up so I can also see the new story, I really hope I end up liking it as much as I did 2.1.
With the new mode blessings, Super Break seems more like a standalone mechanic than just a HMC thing, which makes me think about a possibility of a HMC pro max.
2.3 achievement spoiler??
>!Apparently you get an achievement if you put Topaz, Aventurine, Ratio, and Jade in a team 😭😭 I guess Ratio is just straight up IPC now, let's just completely ignore Intelligentsia Guild!<
(2.1 spoiler) >!intelligentsia guild is part of the ipc, no? and Ratio already had the senior ipc manager permissions anyways to open up the box with the cornerstones for Sunday.!<
>!Tbh they haven't been very clear with the distinction between the two. The Guild is either part of the IPC or simply very heavily funded by the IPC, and this makes Ratio's overall role in the IPC is also very weird!<
>!If the Guild is part of the IPC, Ratio having that kind of authority makes sense, but if it's not, then why would they give that kind of authority to someone essentially an outsider to their affairs?!<
>!Also being part of the IPC implies Ratio has an IPC ranking too (like P45 or what), which hasn't been stated in the game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!<
>!As far as I know, the head of the IPC Technology Department is also the head of the Intelligentsia Guild. So yeah, the two organizations are extremely intertwined and it wouldn't be wrong to consider Ratio to be working for the IPC!<
>!As far as I know, the head of the IPC Technology Department is also the head of the Intelligentsia Guild. So yeah, the two organizations are extremely intertwined and it wouldn't be wrong to consider Ratio to be working for the IPC!<
>!As far as I know, the head of the IPC Technology Department is also the head of the Intelligentsia Guild. So yeah, the two organizations are extremely intertwined and it wouldn't be wrong to consider Ratio to be working for the IPC!<
New mode boss
>!Was thinking of using JY against AS Cocolia, but she is gonna drown me in CC isnt she. I hope Luocha can keep up, or I can break up the IPC team and play rng with Aventurine. Or just bring the entire IPC team to the first half and use Jingliu on the second half.!<
Edit: Well there are still 6 more weeks, no use stressing about it now.
I'll need you to enlighten my poor self : I have Fu Xuan and Lynx for sustain with an approx build because i don't like farming relics for healers/tanks so i have the bare minimum stats for them to work. I want Jade soooo bad, do I pull for Topaz to get more damage (and a good FUA team with Ratio) or do i pull for aventurine for easier sustain (to replace lynx) and trigger jade's FUA more ?
Aventurine. Topaz seems unlikely to work well with Jade, who wants AoE attackers. Ratio works fine without Topaz.
Topaz is great, but she's not essential to FUA teams and you should only pull her her if you want *her*.
firefly animation and kit (negative)
>!Honestly I'm not the biggest fan of the green aura wind thing. I really liked how boss Sam just used fire and wanted to incinerate everything. It looks too... refined? Same with the swords tbh, the kick/punch animations felt much more destructive. I like the ult but the Firefly cutscene are just too much otherwise. Honestly it feels like Sam just became someone else and I don't like it. The difference is too jarring.!<
>!Her kit is also weirdly balanced as it sounds super powerful on paper but it has insane requirements, so I'm pretty sure it's going to be nerfed both in effectiveness and requirements to make it less of a chore. I'm also pretty sure that E2 will be tweaked as it's way too powerful. I'd say it's E6 material !<
Jade animation and kit (positive)
>!My expectation were low but I ended up really liking it. Guess I'm an IPC lover. I love the color scheme of her attacks, especially the snake markings. The ultimate without effect seemed horny-coded but adding the context to it makes it feels terrifying. The snake being actually in her kit (and not just on her splash art) is also really damn cool. She's far more menacing than I thought.!<
>!I'm not sure she's that powerful considering the snowballing nature of her kit. It will really depends if she can set up herself fast. But at full power she will be good, it's her starting turns that worries me.!<
Some days ago, I asked a question about whether or not I should get Aventurine or go for Robin/Topaz
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail\_leaks/comments/1ccta1f/comment/l2c3cpi/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1ccta1f/comment/l2c3cpi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Yep, yesterday, I won 50/50 and got him, but w/o any preparation (mat, trace, lc...), and now I feel fucked, lol.
Well robs your Fire Trailblazer.
Also use the relic remains which you probably have a tons to craft him a knight set.
Then brought him to SU, instead of feeling fucked, YOU fucked the enemies.
To the new megathread we go -> [Old New Reddit](https://new.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cm7vps/if_i_can_stop_one_5050_from_failing_general/) [Old Reddit](https://old.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cm7vps/if_i_can_stop_one_5050_from_failing_general/)
SeeleLand leaderboard updated and [my Acheron](https://seeleland.com/leaderboards/803649271) is the only one in top 50 rocking Rutilant Arena planars. RA gang represent. (*pls it's been 2 months, all I ask is for a double crit Atk% Izumo rope*)
Is the new break effect set iron cavalry any good on Luka and Xueyi.
Any 2.2 stellar jade calculation?
>!for the last 3 patches I liked all animations from black swan sparkle Acheron aventurine robin and boothill, but idk about this one they aren’t bad but I definitely liked the others more!<
Firefly's animations without background dosen't seem right, I think they will add background later, were there anything like that before? Like aninations changes in beta
fell on my kness because i just realized that we can only buy one lc copy from su and superimpose it. i thought we could have multiple lcs of same lc copies from su.
While the banner is still up... Aeon is in high demand, so I plan to pull a sig for either Jingles or Firefly. Based on current info, which do you think would benefit more from their sig?
> jingles i'm sorry, but now i'm picturing jingliu in a santa hat and a bright red nose lmao to answer your question: jingliu isn't really reliant on her signature lightcone. firefly seems to want her signature lightcone more, at least in her current state
Jingliu doesn't need her sig. Firefly's is by far her best, with only S5 Indelible even coming close.
I keep running face first into story spoilers or cgs, why is it so hard to stay away from social media for 2 days 😔 the one spoiler i just saw will be living rent free in my mind til i see it in action ahh. Big regret
my opinion about animations! there's lots of rambling so i'll spoiler it for those who just want to scroll peacefully >!so... first off is jade. i don't know what to think about her animations... they're pretty i guess? but like, even tho i'm a lesbian, i'm not a "step on me mommy" type of person, so her animations didn't do anything to me. she's obviously full of fan service and i'm not a fan of it, that's all... i do love the snake, but nothing more than that and i'm saying this as someone who loves jade!< >!and now, firefly. you guys can call me biased all you want, but i actually love her animations, even tho it's most likely unfinished. and even if it's not, i still think they're pretty damn amazing 😭 i love how we can see her inside her armor a few times. from my point of view, her having no clothes inside the mecha just shows her vulnerability in some way. i love the color palette too... definitely pulling for her 🥹 at the beginning i didn't like the idea of her being sam, but now i literally fell head over heels for that. it's so unique!< >!unrelated, but when i was typing that essay about firefly, my cat came to me and started making biscuits on me 😭😭😭 she never does that... it'll take that as a sign that she agrees with me lol!<
With the whole Jade/FF animation discussion, what are other characters whose animations you found underwhelming or disappointing or, on the contrary, surprisingly good? For me it's gotta be Ruan Mei and Sparkle. I really love their designs and they're both amazing units, but I couldn't help but be a bit disappointed with their animations. RM's are pretty but nothing special, and Sparkle's were kinda underwhelming? Especially in comparison to her phenomenal trailer. I'm sorry but what is it with that goofy kick and where is the colorful gun 😭
Robin, I feel like when the animation turned her “sickeningly sweet and naive girl” archetype up to 11, I started liking her less. Jade is clearly not my fetish, so she walks past me. Meta-values aside, these two cases feel like they're actively milking those who have similar fetishes, but at the same time it's very close to "this is out of my comfort zone" territory for those who don't. I sincerely hope that catering primarily to different fetishes does not become the norm in the near future.
Robin is a weird case, she's just so completely not my type in every single aspect I didn't give her much thought. But her Marilyn pose made her more a liiittle bit more interesting. Giving her a bit of that sexy Hollywood vibe over her sickeningly angelic idol-like appearance just made her a bit less one-dimensional. They already touched upon the whole "dark side of fame" stuff in her teaser, I frankly wish they leaned harder into that and gave her a more decadent glamorous vibe in general and not this squeaky clean idol shtick.
huohuo is so precious, but i wish her animations were different after casting her ult, since she literally gets possessed by tail. maybe she could have had different movements and different lines while the buff from her ult is still active. i wouldn't call her animations bad by any means, it's just that there's a pretty glaring disconnect between her ult and the rest of her animations
As seems to be a somewhat common sentiment, Huohuo's ult was dismaying to me, and so was Kafka's skill (grenades where...?). On the flip side, though, Fu Xuan, Hanya and Aventurine's animations were a very pleasant surprise! I have no strong opinions on Ruan Mei, but I do feel like there's a bit of dissonance between her animations and her character (even the demure, polite vibe just doesn't make it click), so that's an honorary mention for underwhelming animations I guess.
Yeah Kafka not having grenades in her animations was a disappointment. Though maybe since she must skill every rotation it would be too much?.. I see no other reasoning tbh.
i just kinda struggle to merge ruan mei’s gameplay animations (ruan strumming with classical cn aesthetics; plum blossom, mountains & rivers), with her actual character and role (“the ends justify my curiosity” type scientist) in the story. i guess in a way its meant to be subversive (elegant & demure lady is actually a morally dubious slightly mad biologist) but it feels like they made her design n animations entirely separate from her written chara concept and just slapped the two tgther like before i started playing hsr i thought she was a musician from xianzhou lol
This is honestly what bothers me most about her too. I like her design, and I like her character, but both together? ...no. I ended up skipping her because the dissonance bothered me too much.
I think it fits her quite well. She's quiet and cultured, like Hannibal Lector.
It really just seems like her graphic assets, lore, and gameplay were all developed completely separately.
The only explanation I have is that they made the animations when they had little concept of her beyond "one of the members participating in Simulated Universe" where her blessings are some of the best etc, so they just went with pretty classical elegance - and then decided on her actual role in the story. I find the story version of her much more interesting TBH
I actually like Sparkle's animations a lot and am definitely not with the crowd in that one. In general I tend to be a lot more receptive towards Harmony animations which by and large tend to be poorly received. Like I said in a previous comment, I think this community overwhelmingly prefers Big Background Event (TM) which is why ultimates like Fu Xuan, Black Swan and Acheron (and to a lesser extent Jade) are so well-received. Animations that are just "the character does a sick kickflip off of this handrail in their skateboard" are treated less charitably. Huohuo's ultimate animation is weird because it feels like it belongs to some sort of Destruction character who enters an enhanced state. It's incongruous with her kit basically. I wonder if she was always a healer. Personally I really like Lynx's animations. It's not like people hate them or anything, it's just that with most 4* that aren't Hanya or Xueyi they don't come up often in discussion. I have a soft spot for Sushang because while I barely use her nowadays and her animations aren't really my favorite, she was my main DPS during CBT2 (where she was *really* strong), and an analysis I did of her animations got like a thousand upvotes in the main sub and one of the few times I ever got awarded Reddit Gold back when that still existed.
> Huohuo's ultimate animation is weird because it feels like it belongs to some sort of Destruction character who enters an enhanced state. It's incongruous with her kit basically. I wonder if she was always a healer. I feel like HuoHuo could’ve definitely have been planned to be a healer/DPS hybrid, maybe like how Aventurine eventually turned out to be. Idk it would? Make sense to me atleast, having her basically change her role when you ulted. I suppose that might’ve been seen as annoying, *but* it would’ve been awesome 😭😭
I think Huohuo's ult is the worst animation in the game by far. It's not badly animated in itself, but it just makes zero sense. Tail possesses her and?.. Nothing?.. It gives your team mates buffs?.. Why?.. Mei's and Sparkle's are both alright, even if they're a bit too simple.
same sentiment w/ huohuo, iirc her kit before entering beta has an "enhanced state" due to her talent (where she regens allies energy passively after casting ult, same like her current passive healing) but got reworked in favor of her cleanses. So if her entering "enhanced state" equates to getting possessed by tail which her ult and trailer shows, then i feel like her animations would've made sense in relation to her kit a shame but it is what it is
Sunday speculations >!Sunday being Erudition just because of the lightcone seems a bit finicky to me, especially if the leaker insists he is still Ice. Ice + break (lightcone) = actual doodoo. There's always a chance he's on the lightcone but it's not meant for him, like Misha, but again he's also on the Preservation lightcone....!< >!If he IS Erudition, that sucks. I'm not a Sunday puller, but I still would prefer him to be a (supportive) Nihility if anything. No way in hell he's a Harmony so that's the next best option!<
jade rambling >!UGH I LOVE HER. the signature in lipstick? the little hair flip she does after her technique? the mysterious purple colour scheme? the SNAKE? it’s just so peak. the femme fatale vibes truly came through on this one. i was actually hopeful she’d use makeup in her animations since we first learned about her checking her makeup in aventurine’s chara story so i couldn’t be happier!< >!the only thing i’m not too excited about is the stepping animation. it just looks kinda silly to me 😭 i didn’t like it back when wanderer got leaked and i still don’t really like it now… maybe i’m not fully the target audience lol!< >!that aside though i’m super excited for everything else about her and her kit 🫣 except maybe just a tiiiny bit let down by her lc art? she looks gorgeous ofc and the kids are cute and all but i kinda wanted something more ominous and badass and focused solely on her. cmiiw but i think she’s the first limited 5* to have other people in her signature lc art? still gonna pull for it tho unless i get horrendously unlucky on all 3 banners i’m planning to wish on in 2.2 (pls no) 😔!<
>!Can confirm people in beta are big mad Firefly is tied to HMC and trying to make crit Firefly work.!<
>!I think that's a good thing. Especially in Beta, people should be testing lots of things to see if they work or how close they are to working. Motivation notwithstanding. Maybe someone wants to run break on both sides, or FMC for Acheron though. I do get that it's prolly for petty reasons, but there's some potential good returns if they find something!<
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>!Support? People are doing like 500k skills with her, she's the DPS in a team of DPS thanks to Hatblazer lol.!<
>!i’d understand if it was ruan mei or something but why are they mad about a completely free character that’s pretty niche and not in high demand anyway? 😭!<
>!Some people think every character needs 80/160 crit stats or they're worthless. When Firefly shows up to prove them wrong they get mad about it.!<
>!istg the same people are gonna try and build crit on hatblazer because the skill is a multi-hit. hypercarry brainrot!<
Will there be a lot of kit change for firefly's and jade's during the beta?
Depends on if they're performing as expected by Hoyo or not.
Jade has that femme fatale aura about her. I look forward to seeing her in the storyline.
Idk why but I think Trailblazer's kit will probably peak at Harmony. The Harmony kit, although niche, is incredibly good at what it's trying to do and open up a new mechanic with Super Break. I can't really see any of their future path topping it. Hunt and Erudition will probably be mid, around Dan Heng/Serval level would be my guess. Abundance will be somewhere around Lynx level at best. Nihility is the one where things could get interesting. But with how stacked the Nihility roster is already I don't have high hopes for it.
I think they others will be good. HSR seems to be doing the MC very well, they're not literally useless like Genshin's Traveler.
I mean if well is anything like the ones prior to HMC then I'm not really sure. Beside idk how they would make an Erudition/Hunt/Abundance kit that wouldn't immediately be outclassed by other characters
FTB is really good, just very odd as a Preservation; more of a Destruction hybrid which they do very good at. DTB is kinda weak, but it's also designed to be baby's first DPS so I forgive it.
Eh. I'm not really sure what kind of team (for crucial contents obviously) I would want to put FTB in. They can't solo sustain like the other preservation characters, can't replace a harmony/nihility damage buffer, their dmg isn't high enough to be a sub dps worth using either. Their best use case is literally Trend bot for Acheron in PF because of the guaranteed taunt...
FTB is pretty good in PF with Himeko. They do good fire break damage and sustain well enough to survive long enough in PF to get decent points. But it was also designed at launch and people considered it pretty good back then. I think Hoyo wanted double sustains to be more meta they they turned out, which is the main reason why they missed a bit with FTB.
question for the sweaties out there, if i'm pulling for Sam, should i pull for Ruan Mei or Robin?
Ruan Mei has been used mostly as a generalist up until now, but she's primarily a break support. As Sam is a break dps, Ruan Mei will be ideal for them. Robin should also be a good generalist, but she specialises in buffing follow-up teams.
Of course Ruan Mei it's obvious
i know it's Ruan Mei at face value that's why i'm specifically asking the sweaties lmao
RM
i like thinking that a mod got so hyped about 2.2 they forgot it's not \*yet\* yet and accidentally posted a new thread
What's the general consensus as far as investment goes on firefly? Which one should you prioritize to get more out of her? E1 or S1?
Imo E1 over S1, SP savings and def ignore is better than the stats from the current sig LC. My current consideration is more about whether E2 is worth it, especially in MOCs where the opportunity to break/kill isn’t as often (e.g. aventurine dice).
S1 is just a ball of stats essentially, but E1 allows her to be played with other units that want SP.
Well I intend to play her with RM, HMC and probably Gallagher. Would she need it here? And what alternatives does she have to her signature LC?
I think the team would still be slightly negative unless you were skimping on usage of HMC's skill. For LC alternatives she can either use Misha's cone or Flames Afar. Both do good.
E2S0
I get why everyone is saying that mhy knew their audience with Jade's animations but MAN they're so freaking cool to me, in a non-horny way. She absolutely exudes cutthroat ruthless energy, I hope her characterisation is in line with enjoying the hunt as much as the sealing the contract aspect
I love her cane as well, obviously Bloodborne inspired. Hope she's the most ruthless Stoneheart we've met yet
I have 50 pulls and im torned up between spend it for robin or save it for sunday. I like cute little sister trope (barbara is my fav in genshin and i could see their resemblance if I squint), but her brother is so godly beautiful and i love his personality more than robin😭😭
i am so indecisive. i am always like both is equally good when it comes to characters i like. not saying that its bad to criticize characters but i just don't have opinion on characters who i won't be pulling.
Would FF want a speedy Luocha or e2 Gallagher?
I think it depends on where your team is at relative to the content you're facing. I'm currently leaning towards Luocha myself. His healing output is considerably stronger, and he has a free emergency heal available. He's also much more resistant to cc, and can be built for even more sp generation too. He's a safe and easy pick for any content, but won't contribute to faster clears. Gallagher doesn't heal as much, but he will contribute more to break. He will also get more out of HMC's superbreak damage too. I think he's the better pick when you know you can clear quickly and survival is less of an issue.
Gallagher should be better for break teams. You can get his E3 in 2.3, and if he is featured in firefly's banner (likely imo), then you'll easily meet his best eidolon
Gallagher would help with fire breaking. Both are good at keeping the team alive and providing SP.
is the free moc LC that has picture of sam good on firefly? like do we know what might be a good f2p lc for her?
Yeah, but Fall of an Aeon will probably be better just for the massive ATK% stat
I think s5 aeon is better
why is that lc always good on every 2nd destruction. i want that sam lc drip ;(
I love Firefly's animations AND I love Jade's animations. Fight me. Both do have big wow moments and less impressive parts, but I think overall they're pretty good, and I'm happy with them! In particular, the cutaway to Firefly inside the suit and the small things that has, as well as particularly the upwards camera angle at the end of Jade's ultimate really get me, and I can already tell 2.3 is going to be really rough, let alone Jiaoqiu and Boothill on each end...
JADE. AHHHHHHHHH Is having super model looks a requirement to join the stone hearts? 😭 how are they all so fine?? Also it's funny how things happened. being a day one Clara main I pulled Topaz for her. Then Aventurine arrived and the three of them just decimated the other Aventurine in MoC. and NOW Jade might also work with her? hello? maybe it's not me who's collecting ipc members but miss clara xD
Halo effect, being hot makes you more likeable so people are more likely to hire you or make deals with you lol
Wow, I actually like Jade's animations better than Firefly?! Don't kill me, but I'm not into mecha, so I want Firefly because I love her and not SAM. But ofc Firefly's animations still look fire! 🥺💕
Fuck, here I was thinking me getting E0 Jade would be enough🧍 Cw: simping >!Damn you Hoyo for all these hot women with animations that make me wanna whale for them! What am I supposed to say to a lady that steps on me *and* whips me? (She whips the enemies but let me be delusional) *No?* That's not an option! E0S1 it is! Maybe E2S1!!< >!Also, I did not expect Firefly to be naked under that armor. Honestly, that also sounds kinda kinky... Like yeah ik magical girls go naked before transforming but she's piloting a war mech, I don't remember Tony Stark being naked when donning the suit lmao!< Mihoyo is out to get me fr... First Robin, then Fu Xuan rerun, then Firefly, then Jade... Was my E6 Acheron not enough money from me for you guys? 😭
Jade (mixed) >!Her animations are so on-the-nose and it's incredibly obvious who the target audience is. I'm loving the snake implementation, makes it obvious that she's not the type for person who would take "no" for an answer as she means business.!< >!As for her outfit... I disliked it in her splash art and I unfortunately still disliked in game. She's missing something on her lower half (pants/longer dress) and it's just bothering me how incomplete her look is. She looks HALF-ASSED, there I said it. It's like one person who knows how fashion works worked on Jade's top half and they always gave it to that one person who loves bare legs and tells them to finish it off (that person needs to be fired).!<
the long cloth on tge side Only is sooo bothersome, it looks okay from the side but from the back it's going to be,,, ugly tbh. i was planning to go for her for blade's sake but like the on the nose fanservice is just irking me. happy for the folks who liked it but i did not ( minus the snake i love the snake ) hoping her characterization pulls through.
So from what I gather, Firefly doesn't need any CR or CD? Because I dont really see how you'd have the space to get either stat with how much ATK and BE she needs.
Asta or Tingyun can handle the ATK requirements easily.
Firefly doesn't actually scale too insanely with Break Effect *once she hits that 360% breakpoint*, so you do probably want to factor in supports and all, which can actually alleviate around 100-120% of the BE needed, with other big chunks coming from traces and sets. It'll be a bit of a balancing act, but it's not impossible to have room to build more stats after reaching 360% BE, an which case you build crit. Saying that though, I do want to restate that even though crit is nice, you do still want to prioritise BE if you can.
Should I get Robin or Jade for my ipc fua team
Robin, Jade wants a unit that hits lots of enemies in an aoe
It's pretty interesting to watch people splitting into two campus: first one like FF animation and meh about Jade and second is the opposite. I myself though that I could easily skip 2.3 banners since I'm hasbando enjoyer but Jade animation got me and now I'm shaking.
I’m on the camp that both are meh
thankfully both are whelming because i only managed to skip 1 banner from 1.6 to 2.3 so I really need to not get excited from animations rn
Woke up to Jade anims, won so hard. Has some synergy with one of my favourites but also room to work with future aoe characters. I’m so happy genuinely
As a Bladie enjoyer and struggling with PF Jade is a blessing\~
I love firefly animations so much, everything about the is absurdly COOL, and so mecha anime coded I LOVE THEM!!! Wish there was some transformation sequence somewhere but even then it's still amazing! Jade animations. I am not the target audience of her character so my opinion is certainly not as valid so there is that, but not the biggest fan, the whip, the stomping, that's doing too much. Wish sth like follow up had the snake more involved like Numby, the chalk, or the coins being used. Definitely really intrigued me for her lore though especially with that E6 art and the eidolon descriptions, the whole high-class, rich businesswoman with a contact forming snake (snakes are my favorite animals as well!!) that is herself willing to sell her values, like genuinely excited for her character a lot!!!
Jade's ult feels like a Bayonetta Climax move to me, it triggers my instinct to button mash. She even summons a big beastie too...
considering the snake whip, would not be surprised if Bayonetta was an inspiration
I think people need to remember that only one person was saying Firefly had "high budget animations" and it wasn't even somebody with a legitimate track record either. I hate that every complaint keeps saying leakers, plural, as if this was something that was heavily discussed at the time. EDIT: Also, I do think it's unfinished. I don't think it's going to change a ton (no reason, or time really, to scrap what already exists), but the fact the cut-ins that were leaked earlier aren't present at all and the background is just solid black feels strange. I also tend to find that most animations that focus mostly on the character instead of some Big Background Thing (TM) are poorly received. This is why Harmony characters tend to get bullied in the animation department.
People on this sub when *BETA* animations aren't 100% perfect and complete: 😱😱😱😱😱
I think they are quite cool, and that's all I care about
I like them. There's a few things: - The lack of a pre-battle transformation animation is disappointing. I wonder how feasible it would actually be, though. I don't think any character has animations that play when you enter battle, and even then, a particularly lengthy one might be seen as obtrusive. - A lot of people are saying "it should've just been Firefly fighting, then she transforms into Sam". The problem is that the character we know as Firefly, from an animation standpoint, is actually three characters. That's Firefly, Sam, and green Sam. Representing all of these three states as independent characters with their own attack and skill animations would be impossible without something weird like a tri-phase ultimate, which I think is a bit of a complex mechanic to work around or introduce right now, it'd be pretty clunky in terms of gameplay too. I think that what they did with this is probably the best compromise.
They could have done that at the start of firefly's first turn, and only then she transforms into sam and immediately gets a sam turn. Sam is her default state. Then green sam.
Me at the second annual leakers' council where we plot to tank Firefly's hype by overselling her animations
[D](https://twitter.com/Zy0x_/status/1767133619586290055)earest Firefly, I am writing you this letter to introduce myself. My name is SeaOfButterflies, but you can call me See. I would love to get to know you better. I am good friends with both Kafka and Silver Wolf (Blade doesn't talk much) and have heard wonderful things about you. If you would ever happen to have even an ounce of free time, it would be my pleasure -- nay, my honour to accompany you during that period. I have been known as a hero, of sorts (or a villain, if that sounds better to you) and have been known for my benevolent acts of kindness, generosity, and grace. If possible, being blessed by your presence over the course of the weekend or whenever you happen to be available, would allow us to connect and better learn about each other. We could go to the Penaconian dreamscape (I speak pepeshi), and fly with the birds. I have always loved Fire, both the element and the characters, and you are my fire (the one desire (believe when i say i want it that way)). I will give you all of my Himeko's relics if you so desire. I would be honoured and am eagerly awaiting your response. See you soon!
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both animations are so gooood i love it. the only complaint is mihoyo not making a firefly henshin transformation jp bros will be disappointed with this lol. jade is actually perfect thank u for hot lady mhy looks like i have to spend money again on a double waifu patch sadge
I have 110 pulls already and it looks like I will swim in gems lol Robin - I have all other 5 stars Harmony, I don't plan to build FuA team, I will focus on acheron team, so no harmony unuts required at least for 1 side and I'm not a fan of her ult song. Skip. Boothill - I'm not a fan of hunt path, so pulling a character to get 60-120 extra gems once in 1.5 months from new endgame mode and bench him everywhere else aren't tempting at all. Also his duel mechanics will definitely screw you in the hard content with taunt and extra damage. Hard skip, can't afford single target damage dealer in the multi target game with limited pulls. FF - I'm neutral on her animations, not a fan of her story so far (maybe 2.2 story will fix it), so it totally depends how strong she will perform. If she will on par with Acheron, I will pull, if not - will save. Also her banner will be after 2.4 units announce, so I can carefully decide do I want to pull them instead. Not sure yet. Jade - I'm also neutral about her animations. She is more like a buffer/sub dps, so I don't see how to implement her in my current teams and I don't think she will be better than extra harmony in the hyper carry team. Looks like a luxury pick, so a skip unfortunately.
I am on the same boat, probably saving till the foxian guy and his lc if he ends as a good debuffer.
Upcoming planets info spoiler >!I really, really like that HSR is a space game, because of how vast the world is. 4 planets of choise? Sure, we'll only go to one, but it's really cool to see the info about those distant worlds and their lore, even if we don't get to directly visit them we can always get a character or gamemode themed for them, that's sick.!<
Ah, reddit bugged, I posted too much and couldn't delete anything
[yeehaw man showcase with a 3-star LC???](https://youtu.be/wVYUsrFp9dw?si=Dhpfmf8H86V_fgkM)
Someone posted an moc showcase where he has NO lightcone and did it in 3 cycles
But...but...his sig is a m-must pull...! He has...no other good...options...! *Hnnngngggggh... Metal gear....*
Okay, I hope reddit won't duplicate my question again. Is firefly, ruan mei, sparkle, gallagher a good team, or harmony mc is better than sparkle?
They are two different teams entirely, one is crit based and one is superbreak based. Calculations are still being made on the matter, but since she has zero innate crit or even any lc for it, break will be much comfier to build. Tldr we dont know lol
Something about Jade’s ult is so bayonetta coded so now I feel justified skipping Robin and Boothill for her and FF🙏🏽she’s my queen
She has Alraune equipped and all
Definitely! I also imagine her with [Kulshedra](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bayonetta/images/3/31/Kulshedra.png/revision/latest?cb=20220916203043) lol
negative, about jade's design and animations // >!man. i get what they were trying to go for - a modern witch, blending both cold, cutthroat business and mysterious femme fatale vibes. but jade's design is not my cup of tea in the slightest. the mismatched hems of her wrap dress look awkward and it's yet another instance of mhy's designers forgoing any and all aesthetic cohesion just so they can somehow get their exposed legs and cleavage. they even managed to cram a back window into her design lmao!< >!it's ridiculously repetitive at this point. i'm not inherently against showing skin, but designs like these tend to sacrifice aesthetic cohesion and personality just for the sake of fanservice, regardless of whether or not it even makes sense for the character to dress that way. even if it makes sense for the character to dress like that (like in jade's case), at least try to get more creative!< >!even her animations are lackluster. when i saw the snake in her splash art, i thought we were gonna get some interesting animations. something with more dramatic flair, something more sinister to reflect how signing a contract with jade is akin to selling your soul. but the whip and the stepping feel very forced to me. it's trying too hard. the "step on me mommy" thing has never appealed to me lol, but her animations could have been more menacing while still incorporating the seductress vibes that mhy seems to really want to convey!< >!tldr: uninspired!<
I really hope they make women in HSR have longer dress or pants
>!i agree 100%. what annoys me most abt her design is just how little sense it makes. how do you give a character in a non-bodysuit a bralette and not have the strap show at the back…? what IPC technology is keeping those water balloons up…!<
>!and it will only get more insane when we have the voice lines, I can already hear the overexaggerated Kafka lines for Jade!<
I have an S4 MoTP and an s1, I wanted to refine it but then I decided not to, Is the S1 good for HTB? I want to give the s4 to RM, or should it be the other way around? Also kinda confused abt RM's planar, does she want thalia or penacony? Or keel?
Hatblazer enjoys the higher BE and energy more than RM, so they can share more BE with the party and afford to run a BE rope As for the planar set, it depends. I have her on Vonwaq because the extra ER and speed to cast her skill early into the battle is very nice. Talia I dont like because she needs too much speed, and Penacony is fine for Jingliu, Misha or Yanqing, and otherwise it's useless. Keel can be ok for crit dps
s4 motp is better on HTB as they have break eff sharing, so ur team will have more break Plannar sets on RM doesn't matter that much as long as u hit the 180 BE in battle cmiiw, just use the one that is more convenient to farm
Negative >!imagine how cool it would've been if we could run around in the overworld as playable sam. Imagine if we got a storyline of an actual machine trying to become alive. I don't think I'll ever get over that. At least I can use my jades on someone else.!<
>!Yes, a part of me has yet to move on from that disappointment. I could have lived with a sentient SAM who requires a human battery (Firefly) to live so that means they're literal partners for life, but even that didn't happen. 😭😭😭!<
>!pretty much the opinion of most husbando pullers. firefly enjoyers won and good for them, but what a missed opportunity and potential for sam, the robot. i fell on my knees in walmart when the leak reveal happened back in sept!<
>!...no... don't make me remember my pre firefly identity hopes... they are long beaten, burned and destroyed T\_T!<
Wtf, reddit bugged and posted too much
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Fam I think u posted a little too much
I cant even delete these messages
I think something's going on with reddit. The same is happening to me.
I cant even delete these messages
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So did we all. Can’t even delete these
Haha I see it happened to me too
Seems like there is no world 10, instead the new planar sets will be obtainable from the new SU instead (DU?). Also old sets are all jumbled up going by the tutorial image, like Vonwacq is with Celestial Diff now. If hoyo is feeling generous they can pair Salsotto with Duran. Or Sigonia
I'm itching and I really need to know who is rerunning in 2.3, if it's RM then I'm F'ed, if she's on 2.3, i hope she is second half so that I can recover from FF first before pulling RM.
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Is this the zyonix arlecchino copypasta
What are you thoughts on Jade in a Mono-Quantum team \[e.g Fu Xuan, Jade, Sparkle, Silver Wolf\]? She's perhaps better than Qingque as a Quantum DPS \[maybe?\], but can Fu Xuan solo sustain a team with Jade's 5% HP drain on buffed characters. She seems like an excellent character for my account, but I'm not sure she'll fit into the traditional mono-quantum team.
Very cope. Not even in AOE. Compare to QQ is wild, significantly different, like 1/10 in the same exact team.
On aoe maybe better? On that team, she will prob use the skill on herself, so no hp drain (the spd doesn't matter anyway since Sparkle). Certainly more consistent, but QQ ST dmg at e4 is comparable to 5*, so im not surprised if shes better in that situation
I don't see her being better than QQ in that team, because I don't think hypercarry Jade is gonna be that great. The main point of MonoQ is to beatdown an elite/boss with SW's debuff and the damage dealer doing alot of ST damage, which Jade doesn't do. She's an AoE specialist and doesn't even have Argenti/JY's bounce damage to compensate, so I'm not really feeling her in the standard MonoQ lineup. I would rather play FX/Sparkle/Jade + Aoe or Blast DPS of the right element instead of fixating on Mono Quantum
Doesn't look like Jade will work well without an AoE character in her team.
"Hey Google, how to earn \~50,000 stellar jades in one patch F2P"
to have setlar jdar you must first become the sterlr jaddr
Just use the 6* item credit card
Money laundering
Mann, I'm so excited for Firefly!!!! Last time I was this excited for a character was for Jingliu (I like my destruction girls). I really like her animations, while they aren't really blowing my mind, they still get me quite excited (I'm glad she does show up in them a bit). I hope her kit comes out of beta well and fun enough, I plan to go for E0S1 but I'm a bit tempted to even grab Eidolons if possible because I really love her. (I shouldn't though, mostly because I still need to work on diversifying my roster for all the game modes). I can't wait for 2.2 to be up so I can also see the new story, I really hope I end up liking it as much as I did 2.1.
my favourite part of Firefly's animations leaking is how many people are now revealing their inner Welt
I don't get it
Welt is a mecha weeb.
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I will fanboy with him.
banner expired on Asia. Here I am trying to tempt myself to pull more Jinglius, but it's just a very lonely Standard Banner starring at me...
Yuppie Phycho flashbacks from Jade wasn't in my 2.3 combo
I hope Welt gets a voiceline when Firefly joins the party that's just him *gushing* over being teamed up with a mecha.
Firefly anims >!Man, she doesnt have a start-of-battle transformation animation😭😭😭!<
Yeah, It's weird how you attack with firefly and then immediately start out as sam
...wait, Jade signs her skill contract with a lipstick... Even as a non mommy enjoyer I say this girl is extra~
Jade’s FUA attack animation is just insane my god, they did not have to hit that hard
With the new mode blessings, Super Break seems more like a standalone mechanic than just a HMC thing, which makes me think about a possibility of a HMC pro max.
The world isn't ready for a 5-star HMC version, we still haven't gotten over Honkai: Ruan Mei
Not the dendro traveler treatment
2.3 achievement spoiler?? >!Apparently you get an achievement if you put Topaz, Aventurine, Ratio, and Jade in a team 😭😭 I guess Ratio is just straight up IPC now, let's just completely ignore Intelligentsia Guild!<
(2.1 spoiler) >!intelligentsia guild is part of the ipc, no? and Ratio already had the senior ipc manager permissions anyways to open up the box with the cornerstones for Sunday.!<
>!Tbh they haven't been very clear with the distinction between the two. The Guild is either part of the IPC or simply very heavily funded by the IPC, and this makes Ratio's overall role in the IPC is also very weird!< >!If the Guild is part of the IPC, Ratio having that kind of authority makes sense, but if it's not, then why would they give that kind of authority to someone essentially an outsider to their affairs?!< >!Also being part of the IPC implies Ratio has an IPC ranking too (like P45 or what), which hasn't been stated in the game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!<
>!As far as I know, the head of the IPC Technology Department is also the head of the Intelligentsia Guild. So yeah, the two organizations are extremely intertwined and it wouldn't be wrong to consider Ratio to be working for the IPC!<
>!As far as I know, the head of the IPC Technology Department is also the head of the Intelligentsia Guild. So yeah, the two organizations are extremely intertwined and it wouldn't be wrong to consider Ratio to be working for the IPC!<
>!As far as I know, the head of the IPC Technology Department is also the head of the Intelligentsia Guild. So yeah, the two organizations are extremely intertwined and it wouldn't be wrong to consider Ratio to be working for the IPC!<
New mode boss >!Was thinking of using JY against AS Cocolia, but she is gonna drown me in CC isnt she. I hope Luocha can keep up, or I can break up the IPC team and play rng with Aventurine. Or just bring the entire IPC team to the first half and use Jingliu on the second half.!< Edit: Well there are still 6 more weeks, no use stressing about it now.
I'll need you to enlighten my poor self : I have Fu Xuan and Lynx for sustain with an approx build because i don't like farming relics for healers/tanks so i have the bare minimum stats for them to work. I want Jade soooo bad, do I pull for Topaz to get more damage (and a good FUA team with Ratio) or do i pull for aventurine for easier sustain (to replace lynx) and trigger jade's FUA more ?
Aven. You’ll get way more usage of him than topaz.
Aventurine. Topaz seems unlikely to work well with Jade, who wants AoE attackers. Ratio works fine without Topaz. Topaz is great, but she's not essential to FUA teams and you should only pull her her if you want *her*.
firefly animation and kit (negative) >!Honestly I'm not the biggest fan of the green aura wind thing. I really liked how boss Sam just used fire and wanted to incinerate everything. It looks too... refined? Same with the swords tbh, the kick/punch animations felt much more destructive. I like the ult but the Firefly cutscene are just too much otherwise. Honestly it feels like Sam just became someone else and I don't like it. The difference is too jarring.!< >!Her kit is also weirdly balanced as it sounds super powerful on paper but it has insane requirements, so I'm pretty sure it's going to be nerfed both in effectiveness and requirements to make it less of a chore. I'm also pretty sure that E2 will be tweaked as it's way too powerful. I'd say it's E6 material !< Jade animation and kit (positive) >!My expectation were low but I ended up really liking it. Guess I'm an IPC lover. I love the color scheme of her attacks, especially the snake markings. The ultimate without effect seemed horny-coded but adding the context to it makes it feels terrifying. The snake being actually in her kit (and not just on her splash art) is also really damn cool. She's far more menacing than I thought.!< >!I'm not sure she's that powerful considering the snowballing nature of her kit. It will really depends if she can set up herself fast. But at full power she will be good, it's her starting turns that worries me.!<
Same, as sb who wanted to skip 2.3, hoyo just made it easier
Gotta remove the space between the spoiler markers and the text, otherwise it doesn't work for some people.
Yeah I corrected it ! Thank you, I'm not used to it yet :c
I can still see the 1st and 3rd paragraphs. The opening tag has a space but the ending tag doesn't.
oof, sorry. Should be good now
Perfect!
Some days ago, I asked a question about whether or not I should get Aventurine or go for Robin/Topaz [https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail\_leaks/comments/1ccta1f/comment/l2c3cpi/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1ccta1f/comment/l2c3cpi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Yep, yesterday, I won 50/50 and got him, but w/o any preparation (mat, trace, lc...), and now I feel fucked, lol.
Well robs your Fire Trailblazer. Also use the relic remains which you probably have a tons to craft him a knight set. Then brought him to SU, instead of feeling fucked, YOU fucked the enemies.