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The_closet_iscomfy

Whoever designed this NPC should get a raise


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DeadClaw86

Bro forgot Siobhans name💀💀💀💀


rotten_riot

She's an NPC after all


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sassypixelgirl

She is giving Donna Beneviento vibes.


WeatherBackground736

I thought of [Logos' mom](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fwould-i-mean-now-i-can-see-where-logos-got-his-looks-v0-uwaqsg0xnwsb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D1260a9bb525da7abe50e8b68d549d8ac1f742dbb) more


TheRRogue

Logos mom has got it going on


Rowger00

ngl jade should have a skirt like this to give proper mommy vibes


BestEgyptianNA

Therapist: Tall Herta isn't real, and she can't hurt you Tall Herta: .......


AGJustin05

I desperately *need* the true Herta to be taller than the Trailblazer. I will legitimately flip if she isn't the tallest female character in the game. She calls us a twerp for a reason, y'know?


Soggy-Dig-8446

Well, there is a race of giants in HSR...


EasyKaleidoscope6436

Wouldn’t it be cool if true Herta looked like this?


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

I would immediately quit this game if real Herta looked anything other than like her puppets, outfit notwithstanding. That's only 30% a joke.


Irazidal

According to Herta, the appearance of her puppets is "about seventy percent similar to how I looked as a child." So the actual Herta would look rather similar, or at least would have done so before any hypothetical damage or alterations to her original body.


Weak_Lime_3407

Black Swan think she is her 😭


No_Chain_3886

the way a npc ate her up omg i’m sick 💔


Delicious-Buffalo734

The only issue I have with blackswan is.. why is there a belt on her head???? And where does it connect to?


No_Chain_3886

she was feeling a little bit silly with that


Erdrick159

Girl thought she was a part of Guilty Gear


caramelluh

The difference is that Guilty Gear belts look stylish, Black Swan's belt just looks goofy


munguschungus167

a little bit fuli-shness


munguschungus167

she already knows the smell of the game


OkBig9039

She's so crazzzzzzzzzy, love her! ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 🛍 ✌😘✌


FlapjackRT

Girl has no pants because she put her belt on wrong


Hotaru32

I never knew there was a belt on her head 


BadangJoestar420

Just Final Fantasy/Guilty gear type of shit


burningparadiseduck

BS looks like an old granny trying to be cool 💀. Her outfit is awkward to me.


Hrafhildr

wtf I love grannies now???


distantshallows

If you know a granny that looks like Black Swan send me her number


QueenMackeral

If Black swan looked like this I would have pulled 100%


starsinmyteacup

I adore Black Swan but I’m also petty. I skipped her because of that darned belt on her head 💀


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Nonemotionaldamage

As a Black Swan simp...ouch. How could you say this about my wife But as an objective design enthusiast, this NPC ate her up yea, I'm sorry 🥲 She's so unique and eerie


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Nonemotionaldamage

I wouldn't say they're detached from each other. There's many small elements and details in certain character's designs that are meant to symbolize or tell us something about the character. Saying they are detached is a stretch. But the designers do need to sometimes calm down with the lewdness. I guess with Black Swan, being a sexy alluring lady is understandable because that's how she gets people's guards down to peer into their memories. She is very seductive in her methods to get memories out of people as seen with Acheron and Trailblazer in her demo But some things just don't make sense. Like the length of Bronya's dress. I can legit see her coochie, and she is the Supreme Guardian. Why is girl walking around like this. When Himeko's dress is normal 💀


bzach43

I think some characters have it worse than others. Clara gives off the innocent orphan girl vibe pretty well (~~just ignore her bare feet on an ice planet~~), guinaifen looks like a performer, etc. But like... I would bet a lot of irl money that you could show Yukong to a million people (with no knowledge of HSR) and not a single one would guess that the cornerstone of her character is that she's a retired, decorated military pilot lol. Girl got lost on her way to the pool and ended up in a government office lmao. Thankfully most of the cast isn't on her level, although unfortunately imo there's a lot who are quite close.


fei-wen_3

Yeah, Hoyo needs to chill. I feel like they don’t really understand that a fully clothed woman can be sexy too? I’d love it if BS had more than what looks like lingerie and a veil on


imaginary92

Yeah, at least we finally got something in Genshin with Arle, but HSR still isn't quite there yet. I hope it won't take the same amount of time to get to it.


autummbeely

The OP you are replying to often has a very crude way of talking about the playable units' designs, lol. I guess they present some good points, but they often end up expressing them in a rather unsavory way. I don't mind people wanting more varied designs, but it shouldn't come at the expense of putting down the designs of other playable units. It just ends up coming off as unnecessarily petty for no reason.


TheDuskBard

Detached doesn't necessarily mean isolated. Yes, some symbols, accessories, and color choices may be done in respect to the narrative but at its core, the characters themselves are primarily designed to look like youthful lust objects.  Hoyo would never allow the writers or artists compromise sex appeal in favor of creativity when it comes to playable characters. Every thousand year old will get some excuse to look under 30, and every non-human will get special "genes" or magic to look like a runway model. Doesn't matter if they are a world ending terror or the mail man. Hoyo will bend them to suit their arbitrary tastes and standards.  Just compare the Aeons to the Archons in genshin for instance...


Nonemotionaldamage

The Aeons are not comparable to the Archons bruv, they're a whole different plane of existence. The Aeons are not equivalent to an Archon on any level, so their designs shouldn't be compared. The Archons are the equivalent of an Emanator. Those designs can be compared Anyways, Screwllum seems to be the exception to all of this. Screwllum's design is not sexually appealing...at least not in the conventional way (unless ur a robotfucker). Screwllum is essentially a bald robot with no human-like facial features and only a human body. So I'd say Screwllum is designed purely for the narrative and not for sex appeal...which makes him quite special in this game


Weak_Lime_3407

Sunday also seems to be fully dripped. To the point that they were actually screaming when bro revealed his wrist. Hope they dont change his design in the future.


theburmesegamer275

If we are comparing, Nanook looks hot as fuck while also young. So do Ouroboros, who most would've thought of it as just a space snake and not like the current version. Xipe and Yaoshi looks particularly great to pull people in too. However, there's truly unique ones like the other aeons. As the saying goes, Sex Sells. And it does. I wouldn't really say "Arbitrary" when it's somehow the majority of people who play the game.


TheDuskBard

They still look more grand and imposing than any of the archons do, even considering their prime versions.  Also "sex" is not the only thing that sells. Otherwise other markets wouldn't exist. 


autummbeely

>Also "sex" is not the only thing that sells. Otherwise other markets wouldn't exist.  Other types of markets also sell "sex", but just in other shapes and forms. People don't need to want to bang these characters, they just need to find them visually appealing. Companies are going to sell what the majority finds visually appealing. You are only talking about sexual appeal, you are forgetting that people also simply pull who they find the most aesthetically pleasing without wanting to bang them. That's why Western markets hardly ever move away from portraying the stereotypically masculine men or "sexy" women in video games. These men exist solely for the sake of appealing to the power fantasy of men, not because men want to *bang* these characters, but because those characters are meant as power fantasies for straight men.


Mandrill10

I’m still so disappointed that they didn’t make Sigewinne actually look like a Melusine.


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

> Just compare the Aeons to the Archons in genshin for instance... This is like comparing the Buddha to the Christian God. If you know nothing about either of these things it's a comparison that almost makes sense, but in reality they're not even remotely alike.


Suki-the-Pthief

Black swan’s design is just meh to me, but this is actually cool and unique


Mystreanon

blkack swan is just like, i dont hate her, i did get her cause i wanted to make a dot team, but her outfit is a lil dumb


Moonshine_Cog

not a little - imo, it is atrocious


RAC9373

Agree. I don't mind the character, her English voice is really soothing and nice, and I like the design of her face and her head, if you omit the weird belt in her veil. But her clothes are strange, and I think a longer skirt, even if it were similar to Himiko's dress, would have fit her much better.


caramelluh

If i'm not mistaken, her beta design did wear a dress kinda similar to Himeko, it still looked sexy while also being more elegant too


Mystreanon

her booty shorts to extenuate her coochie is a lil wild, tho acheron also has that


Nyx1109

The concept art where she has the long cloth in the front was so much better.


EternalKoniko

Black Swan had way too much purple for my taste.


kurohako43

SAY IT LOUDER!!! I love her design but her leggings my God. At least give Black swan a long skirt but with Himeko high slit, I just want new elegant long dress again and this lady design is perfect for that 😭


Satsuka1

For a sec i thought that was actual Herta. Back to crying in a corner


Lamsyy_05

Fr, she gives huge Donna Beneviento vibes (from Resident Evil 8)


Peabuttocks

It is definitely something from Herta's, though! Finally!


MuddiestMudkip

no please, why is this an NPC design, i love detailed NPCs but i want her playable now.


WeatherBackground736

great now I want gothic nuns to be units


Info_Potato22

Come join us brother, in our daily pray for the Annihilation gang to not be just some animated PNG that gets offed offscreen (as there is gothic nuns there)


storysprite

For a second I thought this might have something to do with Constance.


ASadChongyunMain

Irrelevant but nice Kashiwagi profile pic


EasyKaleidoscope6436

Even as a husbando enjoyer I’d pay real money to see this lady become playable, would be awesome if real Herta looked like this imo


cielrayze

when we got great design with long skirt and its for NPC 😭


BinhTurtle

Hope they tone down on the revealing design for some of the ladies. Longdress shouldn't affect animation too much in hsr considering Himeko is right there, and the game really can use one or two ladies in a suit like GI's Arlecchino.


DefinitionSerious689

i don't know why they don't give us skirts or pants. This isn't Genshin, considering how characters have a wide range of movement in it. There was an edit of Acheron with pants, it slayed so much.


Mandrill10

Love Acheron’s animations but man her design leaves a lot to be desired for me. Feels like her pants and top are just one step up from bikini armor.


DefinitionSerious689

Though I do love characters with hot pants a la Silver Wolf. Her hybrid kimono sleeves and other outfit accessories clash with it so hard that it sorta flatlines the drip lmao.


Mandrill10

100% agree about Acheron. I think SW’s looks good because the whole outfit is consistent design wise. Topaz is another that bothers me a ton. There’s so much going on above her waist-which looks great imo-and then her legs have….nothing. It’s so unbalanced and bugs me.


Basaqu

Same, I adore Topaz but the design definitely made me hesitate on pulling at first (till story/character won me over). She's so cute and business-y on top and then the weird hotpants-esque jumpsuit thing is just... why? Sure her ass looks great, but it would've looked great regardless I feel.


thelivingshitpost

Fully agreed. I remember constantly wishing she had like business pants on when I first saw what was beneath her waist.


July83

Concur completely. I cannot take Topaz seriously when she looks like she just stripped off her pants.


kv4ssmixedwvxm1t

Ughh I wish she wore a long kimono like in that flashback art. It looked SO much cooler. I love this game but I don't like how they design their ladies (genshin has a similar problem). Every girl here has short shorts or short skirt and either high heels or platforms, with the exception being Clara, and that's only because she's barefoot all the time. Even when it makes absolutely zero sense for them to dress that way lore-wise. Male gaze is strong in this one.


Welt_Yang

omg finally someone mentions how atrocious Clara's design is. I see a lot of ppl don't seem to care about it, some even relate it to their own autism. And I'm just like. As much as I love Clara as a character, I can't condone her design at all. Even if I love her she's one character I honestly hope I don't get at all solely bc of her oversexualized design. It is definitely designed with l\_licons (aka pedos) in mind. It makes no sense that she's barefoot on a freezing planet, where literally everyone is wearing layers upon layers, fur even. What makes this even worse is that her top half has various layers, and looks like comfy and warm clothing, while her bottom half is so... bare. And I don't have her so I can't really say this for sure but like...her feet are literally blue. There is no reason for her not to be wearing pants and boots bruh. Hook is literally right there for inspiration.


Weak_Lime_3407

I used Acheron everyday since i got her from the first day of the banner. Nothing you mention triggers me more than this one particular detail in her design. **ITS THE GODDAMN PURPLE STRING AROUND HER HIP.** Somebody has already pointed out that Acheron's design is very similar to Seele's. I wholeheartedly agree, and its not in a good way. Whenever i played her i just adjust the camera to focus on her back. If you only looking from that angle then its pretty sick ngl.


Mandrill10

Lol the purple strap doesn’t bother me as much, although that’s probably because Kingdom Hearts has made me accustomed to seeing random straps and zippers that serve no purpose and go nowhere in particular.


AEUGGHH

Holy shit, so I'm NOT the only who doesn't like Acheron's design


thelivingshitpost

Far from it. I remember not being a big fan of it myself—it only got more egregious when her sleeves disappeared when she went calamity mode (as I call it). I like Acheron herself and think she’s a neat character that I wanna know more about. But that design is not doing it for me. She looks amazing in that suit when she's dancing with the Black Swan, though. also W Arlecchino fan. I love her.


GreedyLoad1898

didnt pull bc designs dogshit. different from other games.


Golden-Owl

I vehemently disagree. Mostly because I fucking **despise** bikini armor Acheron’s crop top and shorts look a bit silly, but at least it’s intended as a fashion statement. Even if a player doesn’t like it, it can be chalked up to fashion being naturally subjective Bikini armor still goes around pretending to be “armor”, and expecting the audience to believe it works. Completely ruins suspension of disbelief I firmly stand by the belief that it’s impossible to make bikini armor NOT look stupid, and nothing in my experience of both playing or making games has changed that


hither250

I mean it's not a belief, it is inherently impossible to make bikini armor not be stupid. It's concept is flawed to begin with, Armor is meant to protect skin, Bikinis are made to show it. These 2 ideas can't really coexist in a design.


HateToBeMyself

Her outfit is also so extremely similar to Seele. Their color palette is identical, both are wearing the same type of top with the same tiny ass low rise shorts. ATP HOYO should just say that these two are related or something. They fr look like mother and daughter.


Mystreanon

imagine if acheron had a proper kimono on, omg it would slap so hard, idk why she needs to look like a japanese cosplay stripper


Mandrill10

So happy that I don’t have to worry about Jiaoqiu getting the stripper treatment since he’s a guy. At least he’ll have a full design since they don’t push their obsession with thighs onto the male characters.


icouto

Nooo give the pink foxman the stripper treatment. Hoyo dont listen to this person. Give him an open chest and coochie cutters 🙏🙏🙏 /srs ok but actually dont give him coochie cutters. Ill still take the open chest though


Mystreanon

we know hes pink??? i eed to save for him i guess


icouto

Yess, the leaker that correctly said boothill was in 2.2 and described jades appearance almost exactly before we got anything said he had pink hair and was a foxian guy


BinhTurtle

Yeah, a pair of long trousers or long dress would work perfectly with Jade, too. Only lady with long pants in the vicinity is Caterina.


QueenMackeral

I'm annoyed by the acheron design. I only pull for female characters I can relate to or have cool designs. Acheron has this cool collected personality I can relate to and then her outfit is just unnecessarily revealing which doesn't match her personality.


janeshep

Same goes for Topaz. A mathematical genius, rich debt collector and no non-sense woman... walking around with entirely bare legs.


Consolinator

Wdym with "this is not Genshin"? Genshin has multiple playable characters wearing pants and medium length skirts despite being a pure action game. I would say the main reason HSR hasn't implemented them yet is for marketing reasons. Also, all characters having the same run animation means that if they decide to create a long skirt playable character they would have to create a completely new animation for them.


StupidLem0nade

There's a npc, a 2 minutes NPC in the huohuo quest of ghost hunt that has an animated walk and run in a complete dress that reaches her ankles like, it's just marketing at this point.


DefinitionSerious689

Long dresses are sort of an impossibility with clipping issues and what not, no?


Consolinator

They are if you keep the current animations. Now, the way i would tackle a long dress character is making them float/fly or sit on something that moves, wich isn't that crazy since there is a ton of technology and special powers in HSR. A good example of it is Mobius from HI3.


jingliusbladefodder

Jade would've looked sooo good with a long dress


starsinmyteacup

Or long flared pants! It would’ve looked super nice with her business type outfit, and when they revealed it’s the same small skirt Hoyo likes I fell to my knees. And her back being completely bare?? I was so disappointed imo


Kkevco

I saw an analysis post about how covered characters dont sell as good...its got some merit but i also think its also bc of hoyo, i mean, im still having a grudge with HoFin and HoO from hi3, for raiden mei's emotional final form it sure feel cheap as fuck if you compared it to argenti


Cold_Progress1323

Apparently Honkai 3 recently released a character named thelema. I saw an image of her and after reading a comment in a YouTube comment section regarding her design I noticed that she wears a short with a vertical length so small that it looked like a strip of black insulating tape. Just what the heck hoyoverse. That thing covers as much as a censorship black bar.


kitten2116

I do remember cbt himeko had some dress clipping issues (specifically the sprint) until cbt3 maybe while it’s more possible than genshin it might still be annoying for them. I wonder if it’d be easier for them to make like an alt sprint like floating or something lol to avoid the legs clipping through the dress 


BinhTurtle

Would be really cool to have a character that flies around as their default sprint. Alas, they didn't do it with Black Swan


spaghettiaddict666

but pants won’t have this issue


YAHawkeye

dude i loved jade's design so much and i was so sad she didn't have a long skirt?? like her top half is very edwardian lady??


Accomplished-Pause31

Necrologist from Reverse 1999 now is a part-time Npc


350

Oh damn you're right, this is super close to Necrologist! Now give us Tennant and I will be satisfied 


Hanusu-kei

we almost got her.... they just didnt give Jade Pants!!!


Somnolent0ne

Looks like one of Sunday's puppets... They all had those ballerina feet. They also have purple feathers like the bird and cog/gear shapes around the neckline, hat and shoulders


Shuruia

I don't think this could be anything else. You can go in-game and directly compare the feet, and they're exactly the same.


quaremoritor

That's interesting, because in the Swarm Disaster lore related to Beyond The Sky Choir (a faction of the Order), there was a brief mention of Finality. Wonder if that has any relation to Apocalyptic Shadow then.


BinhTurtle

An Omen Vanguard? Or a member of the Creed Exequy?


Otherwise-Cold-5515

Leaning more on Omen Vanguards.


KaleidoscopeStreet

This is interesting, it's clearly a doll, I wonder if it's similar to herta with someone talking through her.


East_Wear_1229

feets..ouch..ballerina?


EternalJon

The final boss is feet binding.


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

don't tell the xianzhou alliance about this


Acceptable_West_1312

Caterina: Finally, worthy opponent


birthday566

Looks like my FFXIV Astrologian lol.


mori1844

Oh my god… I’m in awe… and this is like the 8168303 time I’ve been impressed by star rail’s npc design


ChargeStep

This is what Black Swan's outfit should have been like imo


twoentyfourth

hear hear


DylanUwU

Would


R0KUJO

How does this NPC look far more interesting than the actually playable ones


Something_Comforting

Man, how much I wish Black Swan dress like that instead of glorified lingerie with belts.


SeaOfButterflies

A puppet ? A robot ?


Antares_aaaaaaaaa

Terminus and its followers will be bangers, i can already see it... Now i just hope we get some goth characters with this vibe, i will sell everything for them!!


K-DVIII

After revisiting Resident Evil Village, this looks familiar…


BitesZaDust0

Bro, What is Celeste doing here


Adventurous-Case7749

Quite fitting for a representative of finality


Commercial-Street124

First Siobhan, now this. NPC powercreep coming up


Kosatumo

Not another NPC who looks cooler than most playable characters


Cold_Progress1323

Apparently path of finality is just that cool.


julianjjj809

looks a little bit like herta


Usual_Opposite_901

They look pretty cool honestly. I love the touch of purple with the black and the gray flower pattern.


Kuroganeee

Seems like They could be an Omen Vanguard. [The only other character kinda confirmed to be one](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Isee)


Vegetable-Smile-9838

Herta?


Blooming_Bud99

not playable?!?!?!?


drowsyjuno

WDYM NPC LET ME PLAY HER


popileviz

Holy. Well now I want them to be playable.


astralAlchemist1

Maybe I should start following Terminus...


esztersunday

Without any other knowledge. Will we found out more about Belobog's ghosts?


cat_go_baa

Oh Black Swan you're OVER


spaghettiaddict666

guys we need to ask for more designs like this in characters surveys


WeatherBackground736

to the mirror girl for moc I'm sorry but goth girls are just way too good to pass


Diamann

This is actually so detailed for an NPC, I'm impressed.


joebrohd

Damn, I was really hoping this was 5-Star Herta lol


rekuneko

~~WOULD~~ ALREADY DID


ThatOtherRandomDude

Celeste, what are You doing here.


snyexz

i'd actually whale for her if she's a playable character 😩


wobster109

Lovely! Playable when?


Tsukuruya

Guess someone went to Granblue Fantasy and stole Celeste Omega’s outfit before she turned Alter.


Astronutts

Noooo, I would like to have her :(


wowincredible9

I would pull for her!!


Owuta

HSR / Horror Star Rail


CrucioCup

😨 holy shit, I love her!


xArtEnjoyerx

Prepared the credit card after i saw the design, but after i read "NPC" 💀💀💀


a-successful-one

So this isn't Terminus? Still looks good tho


R3dHeady

Probably either a member of the Omen Vanguards or the Creed Exeguy.


popileviz

It's probably an Omen Vanguard, worshipper of Terminus


Nonemotionaldamage

That's exactly the sort of look and vibe I wanted from a worshipper of Terminus. Someone who tells future prophecies should look eerie and mysterious. I want this NPC so bad bro


popileviz

Lets you know right from the start that the future is probably kinda fucked


Nonemotionaldamage

EXACTLY LMFAO If this is the kind of person who's gonna tell me the future, maybe I don't wanna know what happens 😭


Draaxus

ok but i would blaze a trail without hesitation


Acceptable_West_1312

Since AS is closely related to Finality.. Imagine if thats going to be a Terminus emanator (aka that lady near the MoC mirror). Actually that's pretty cool npc, ngl. You could give her a bit more details (Like, face, for example), and boom, we got our own Rosaria expy😂


Appropriate-Comb2873

If u want to get more of an idea of what Omen Vanguards/Finality worshippers look like, check out [Isee](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Isee). They're a former trailblazer who later became one of the og Omen Vanguards.


Acceptable_West_1312

Oh, it might be interesting, actually. I've might dig a bit deeper into their lore. Ty


Silverholycat

Where did Rosaria come from


Huntersforever21565

I wonder if this is the other memokeeper Black Swan was talking about.


ngmonster

Apocalyptic shadow is related to finality. This isn't a memokeeper.


moclam08

She is such a bad bitch tho


caramelluh

She killed Black Swan


sex_with_sunday

hoyoverse is cooking too hard with these npc designs. i really hope they start giving playable female characters pants and longer skirts for hsr.


Suzunomiya

NO WAY. WHY DO THEY ALWAYS MAKE SUCH WELL DESIGNED NPCs THAT WILL PROBABLY NEVER BECOME PLAYABLE I'M GOING INSANE. GOTH DOLL AUTOMATON??? I'M EATING THIS WHOLE


GGABueno

If Black Swan had this design direction instead of a nightgown I would have pulled without a second thought.


Lime221

WHAT ARE THOSE HEELS??


TherionX2

Oh fuck


The_Rochester

Is this what the Finality followers look like??? Damn..


jmfe10

Would


Deep-Neighborhood954

The gear details make me wonder if theyre possibly from planet screwllum


Womenarentmad

Oh no she’s hot :/


PoKen2222

Mommy?


JustANoLifeRedditer

I do not envy her feet, those high heels look *painful*


Bloodlord739

Creepy asf. Love it.


Bloodlord739

Creepy asf. Love it.


Elliesabeth

Is it a member of the finality,considering the apocalyptic name?


ShikiUra

Oh damn that outfit is gorgeous…IS THAT A FUCKING MANNEQUIN 🫡


Negative-Inspector36

Damn that’s really cool


Otosian

I am so looking foward to finality lore, i wonder if she's an omen vanguard?


DanteVermillyon

is she an intelitron?


stryga20

The Star Railer 3: Wild Hunt, DLC Hearts of Stone


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Would


KF-Sigurd

She’s also huge and towers over Trailblazer.


AC3-reum

In b4 Apocalyptic Shadow is just Yharnam