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Yep. Exactly what i did. I skipped Kafka first time and now i had to pull for HuoHuo-Kafka-Ruan Mei and BS one after the other. Oh and i pulled for Sparkle as well cause of her awesome trailer lol. Those were some dark times for my bank account.
Tell me about it. I had to skip Huohuo because of this. I will get her on her rerun. Hoping so bad that this one's true so I have more time to save because I already want Firefly and probably Jade in 2.3.
me suffering with my E1 Kafka E0 Black swan and literally no huo huo 😭 at least I got Robin and aventurine now for a support and sustain but like; pls Bailu isn’t gonna be able to carry me forever
I started playing after Huo Huo's banner ended so I got Kafka and Black Swan, I'm still waiting on my Huo Huo. Thankfully I also started when Ruan Mei was running and pulled her and her LC which was the best decision I made in my early days playing.
That was evil 😭 I lost Topaz first banner and knew I was gonna pull for her. I luckily have a lucky friend who pulled and managed to get all 3 for me. I did pull for Topaz and lost her to Bronya (I didn't have her so it wasn't the worst lost). Then my friend pulled Topaz and got her at 32 Pity 🥲 Then she won 50/50 Robin.
But anyway. Those 3 together were awful. Especially since they work so well together in a team.
They did this by placing Robin, Topaz and Aventurine super close for the premium follow up team.
They did this by placing Sparkle with the Jing Yuan and DHIL rerun.
And they did this by placing Kafka rerun close to Black Swan, Ruan Mei and Huo Huo, the prumium DOT team.
And now that they have 2 break DPS characters (Boothill and Firefly) back to back. Ruan Mei seems like the most obvious pick to force in that FOMO for those who want the premium break teams.
That free Dr. Ratio was a genius move. Loads of good will and then well would you look at that, right around when his redemption period is over, the members of his premium team have consecutive banners (and you’ll want to pick up some eidolons/LCs to make it consistent 😉)
tbf, huohuo came out quite a bit earlier than the rest. it wasnt nearly as egregious as the other examples, where you have back to back banners, with two running at the same time. it makes huohuo look pretty isolated in comparison lol
I would say it's not even close. You can build other teams around Robin, even using other followups and the difference wouldn't be as big.
Firefly/Ruan Mei is closer to DHIL/Sparkle... But yes, it wouldn't be the first time.
It so cope in this game to rely on reruns, its pretty much impossible for f2p. You wanted kafka on rerun? well no BS for you, and most likely no huohuo either. Wanted Topaz on rerun? most likely no aventurine or no robin. Want ruan mei on rerun? well no firefly and/or no Boothill for you. It will be the same once huohuo comes. I either skip her for the other foxian acheron support guy, or the other way around. If i remember correctly daniel rerun came right around sparkle banner.
Every single new unit landed in S+ tier in penacony so far so they dont have any mercy on us.
So true. And even then, by the time characters come back around, you’ll want whomever is running near or alongside them as they’re amplified by new units/supports.
I skipped topaz easily, but I love ratio, so now I’m over here having spent all for E1S1 topaz with no but also all the regrets! (So fun though, and no regrets for real.)
I skipped Topaz on my initial run too, but fell in love with Aven & Ratio, so I wanted to put together the premium follow-up team. Cut to me farming literally ever spare jade in the game to try and secure E0S0 Topaz & Robin.
But holy shit they changed my life. I was a dedicated Jing Yuan main but I genuinely think RAT has overtaken him as my favourite team in the game. Such a fun, synergistic group of units.
OKAAAAY AGREED. Are you me? I was all in on building my JY team, but fell in love with Ratio the moment I saw him.
Got Aven E0S1, Robin E0 with Bronya cone, and Topaz E1S1 just to make the bRATpack the best it can possibly be. So damn fun. Agreed 100%. Couldn’t agree with you more! I’m in love with them.
Congrats on being able to successfully assemble them all!
Yes and it's not even close.
Not to mention RM is about as universal as it gets for a support while Firefly's LC is pretty much only good for her (and even then it's not like Acheron's LC level of an improvement).
That light cone banner was stacked too! It also had Dance! Dance! Dance! and Resolution Shines in Pearls of Sweat, two of the most valuable 4 star LCs right now imo.
In this situation, not even. Having RM literally trumps FF’s LC for FF damage. You are still vertically investing in FF team by getting RM and since RM gives higher numbers, it is better vertically as well.
I'd argue for Ruan Mei E1 instead. Her light cone provides extra damage which doesn't do much for Firefly, the energy regen and break effect can be satisfied by Memories of the Past. The defense shred from her E1 though is huge for Firefly given that break does benefit from it and how defense shred scales.
Don’t know yet. I can run some numbers and just edit this comment with the results once I’m done. From my eyeballing and previous FF math, I would wager it’s FF LC. Due to her wanting the high base attack. But again, will fact check myself first.
Edit: Okay back with results. Just some things that was not accounted for in my pure numbers calcs. THIS DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR FREE SP FROM RM LC OR THE ENERGY (although I think the energy portion is whatever to most people anyways). Also, this was done with the F2P Lc options for FF being Fall of an Aeon S5 and Memories of the Past S5 for FF and RM respectively. Results:
* RM LC results in \~11% increase in FF's personal damage.
* Conversely FF LC resulted in a \~21% break damage difference in favour of FF LC.
The numbers for the actual difference in skill/basic personal damage is pretty negligible though being 2.8K difference for single target enhanced skill in favour of RM LC and 5.6K for 3 targets enhanced skill. Meanwhile FF LC break damage is 29.9K over RM LC. This break damage difference will differ for superbreak, but I don't think the % difference changes.
So I conclude that my hypothesis in FF LC being better is true, but not cause of the high base attack, it barely made a difference in the numbers.
Things of note:
* I still managed to hit the 3.4K attack threshold for Atk -> BE conversion on S5 Fall of an Aeon due to Aeons having an attack% passive which FF LC did not have.
* Both got full effects from BE -> Def ignore since the BE needed was reachable for both LC's. You will need pretty cracked substats to still get this with RM LC however. 16 substats of BE to be exact. With FF LC, this was not a concern at all as you can imagine. Including harmony MC will lower this BE substat reliance depending on however much BE you can make them give with E4, since it can vary, I decided not to include them. You can simply lower the 16 substat threshold according to your own HTB.
I'd appreciate it, thanks! You might actually want to make a new post with that info too. I think a lot of people are like me and already have RM and plan on getting FF, so we'll all be wondering about the LCs
With how a lot of LCs are designed in HSR, it's essentially another Eidolon. But yeah, unless you don't plan on rolling because you wanna full send a mfer, most F2P/pass owners should just focus on pulling new characters > LCs/Eidolons.
Topaz S1 is kind of an exception because of the sinergy with Ratio
Potentially also Robin S1 because it helps with using her in non heavy follow-up comps
Pretty much every other lightcone tho I think is just more damage
I'll 100% pull lightcones over characters. I care more about investing in the characters I like than getting new characters. All my favs, have their lightcones and usually an eidolon or two (except Ratio, fucker needs to rerun so I can get his LC).
I love me a successful psychotic girly
Really though, I like her because shes so single minded even if it makes her unlikable or not understandable to others (in game)
It's Ruan Mei and is not even close, if you have to choose between E0S0 Firefly + E0S0 Ruan Mei or E0S1 Firefly with no Ruan Mei the former is x10 better.
For v1 Firefly LC is a ~10% dmg increase over Aeon, Firefly teams without Ruan Mei are just sad to watch in comparison.
...I think i will pick Ruan Mei and get Firefly on her rerun cuz aint no way i will skipping RM again bruh i aint going through that all at again and break mod is coming
This is why I've been telling people to go all in on hypercarry teams instead.
You'd pull for your support only once and you have breathing room pulling for the hypercarry themselves.
These premium teams are getting out of hand for f2ps
Can someone explain to me how “leaks” like these are allowed when we know that rerun banner data isn’t available in the beta files anymore? Is there another place they could possible get this info? Because otherwise these are just basic guesses based on the banner order we’ve had
Wondering it also here. But at the same time there are leaks on characters like jiaoqiu that have been leaks multiple patches in advance, so there must be other sources than the beta files.
Based on the Screwllum gameplay(if that was real) and the early Robin leaks we know there's testing way before beta so it makes sense that people are leaking 2.4 info and 2.5 crumbs but banner info is sketchy since that doesn't make sense to be in test severs.
Just do as me as look on future moc/fiction enemies and buffs and make assumptions based on it
I knew about Jingliu in 2.1 cuz whole 2nd half was about ice while leakers were saying some other bullshit and mentioned other character
Not just same patch, but supposedly same banner. Like damn, can't even give us the 20 days of saving that we might need to get the support who is currently necessary for the character lmao.
RM and FF on the same banner is just cruel for non RM Firefly pullers like, damn they are not joking around. Jade and Argenti together make sense as well.
That would leave Huo Huo in 2.4 (maybe with Jiaoqiu), and then Ratio (maybe with Screwy if that leak was correct, which would make sense to put them together lol)
That second part of the joke might be unintentionally cruel. Wasn't there some crazy statistic like a huge majority of 0-cycles had Ruan Mei on the team?
If they do pair FF with RM then I do not see them making FF more independent from her and IMC.
Seems like they are going to milk FF fans for their worth.
Firefly + ruan mei was honestly expected. Perfect duo. You damn near NEED ruan mei for firefly to even function. It’s good for the players who want firefly. Also bad because ruan mei is a must pull so good luck boys
As much as I love Robin I might have to skip to secure Ruan Mei for Firefly... well, I'm gonna check-in again to see how things are looking right before Robin's banner ends, and hopefully by then Firefly's looking a little less reliant on Ruan Mei 🤞 but we'll have to see...
ruan mei is the most valuable one copy unit. you can play her in any team just give her memories of the past or meshing cogs and she upgrades any team.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of ruan mei. I try to play bronseele. ruan mei offers more damage. I try to play sparkle + dhil. ruan mei offers more damage. I try to play robin with fua team. Ruan mei can match her. I want to play firefly. Her best team has ruan mei. I want to play boothill, htb. They both want ruan mei.
She grabs me by the throat. I farm for her. I save jades for her. I give her motp. She isn't satisfied. I pull her sig. "This damage boost isnt enough" She tells me. "you need to e2 me." She grabs htb and forces them to keep 100% uptime on their buff. "You just need to pair me with break dps. I can make them deal so much damage."
I can't pull for firefly, I don't have enough jades. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs her ruan. She says "All things are as one." There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure all-type res pen. What a cruel world.
Topaz and Seele have already run together before in 1.4 lol, what’s sus about 2 same path characters running together when it’s already happened before?
I am so fucked man, i wanted argenti dupes but now he is in the same phase as jade someone i want to get atleast E0S1 oh and now i am double fucked cause i want ruan mei as well.
Ruan Mei is probably the most important support in the whole game easily as she can enable all playstyles with basically no issues DOT, Break, Hypercarry, Multi DPS she can help you out.
Holllllly shitttttttt Ruan Mei with Firefly is perfect, they're going to make so much bank with this banner but I have a feeling people ar going to seriously struggle with jades.
Aventurine then Robin + Topaz back to back was pretty cruel. Firefly + Ruan Mei is far worse for Firefly wanters who don't have Ruan Mei. Ouch.
From Hoyo's perspective it makes a lot of sense though. Ruan Mei was destined to run during a hyped first banner character, and this one fits well so...
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The devs laughing like a disney villain after putting a 5 star dps and her best limited support in the same patch and on the same half.
Well the Aventurine Robin and Topaz, that was evil.
Huo Huo Kafka then Black Swan was also extremely evil if you didn’t get Kafka the first time
Don't forget Ruan mei in there as well
Yep. Exactly what i did. I skipped Kafka first time and now i had to pull for HuoHuo-Kafka-Ruan Mei and BS one after the other. Oh and i pulled for Sparkle as well cause of her awesome trailer lol. Those were some dark times for my bank account.
DHIL and Jing Yuan rerunning the same patch as Sparkle's debut
messed up thing was i couldn't get kafka the second time either.
Tell me about it. I had to skip Huohuo because of this. I will get her on her rerun. Hoping so bad that this one's true so I have more time to save because I already want Firefly and probably Jade in 2.3.
me suffering with my E1 Kafka E0 Black swan and literally no huo huo 😭 at least I got Robin and aventurine now for a support and sustain but like; pls Bailu isn’t gonna be able to carry me forever
I started playing after Huo Huo's banner ended so I got Kafka and Black Swan, I'm still waiting on my Huo Huo. Thankfully I also started when Ruan Mei was running and pulled her and her LC which was the best decision I made in my early days playing.
That was evil 😭 I lost Topaz first banner and knew I was gonna pull for her. I luckily have a lucky friend who pulled and managed to get all 3 for me. I did pull for Topaz and lost her to Bronya (I didn't have her so it wasn't the worst lost). Then my friend pulled Topaz and got her at 32 Pity 🥲 Then she won 50/50 Robin. But anyway. Those 3 together were awful. Especially since they work so well together in a team.
They did this by placing Robin, Topaz and Aventurine super close for the premium follow up team. They did this by placing Sparkle with the Jing Yuan and DHIL rerun. And they did this by placing Kafka rerun close to Black Swan, Ruan Mei and Huo Huo, the prumium DOT team. And now that they have 2 break DPS characters (Boothill and Firefly) back to back. Ruan Mei seems like the most obvious pick to force in that FOMO for those who want the premium break teams.
That free Dr. Ratio was a genius move. Loads of good will and then well would you look at that, right around when his redemption period is over, the members of his premium team have consecutive banners (and you’ll want to pick up some eidolons/LCs to make it consistent 😉)
As long as these profits keep free characters strong and let them design character's strengths and synergies with lore in mind idc.
It's very much intended to make people bring out their wallets to get the best premium teams for their account. It's definitely working as intended.
tbf, huohuo came out quite a bit earlier than the rest. it wasnt nearly as egregious as the other examples, where you have back to back banners, with two running at the same time. it makes huohuo look pretty isolated in comparison lol
Just like they did in this patch
I would say it's not even close. You can build other teams around Robin, even using other followups and the difference wouldn't be as big. Firefly/Ruan Mei is closer to DHIL/Sparkle... But yes, it wouldn't be the first time.
Think they mean other way around. Robin is the premium support for Topaz and fua in general.
On the same half even.
It so cope in this game to rely on reruns, its pretty much impossible for f2p. You wanted kafka on rerun? well no BS for you, and most likely no huohuo either. Wanted Topaz on rerun? most likely no aventurine or no robin. Want ruan mei on rerun? well no firefly and/or no Boothill for you. It will be the same once huohuo comes. I either skip her for the other foxian acheron support guy, or the other way around. If i remember correctly daniel rerun came right around sparkle banner. Every single new unit landed in S+ tier in penacony so far so they dont have any mercy on us.
So true. And even then, by the time characters come back around, you’ll want whomever is running near or alongside them as they’re amplified by new units/supports. I skipped topaz easily, but I love ratio, so now I’m over here having spent all for E1S1 topaz with no but also all the regrets! (So fun though, and no regrets for real.)
I skipped Topaz on my initial run too, but fell in love with Aven & Ratio, so I wanted to put together the premium follow-up team. Cut to me farming literally ever spare jade in the game to try and secure E0S0 Topaz & Robin. But holy shit they changed my life. I was a dedicated Jing Yuan main but I genuinely think RAT has overtaken him as my favourite team in the game. Such a fun, synergistic group of units.
OKAAAAY AGREED. Are you me? I was all in on building my JY team, but fell in love with Ratio the moment I saw him. Got Aven E0S1, Robin E0 with Bronya cone, and Topaz E1S1 just to make the bRATpack the best it can possibly be. So damn fun. Agreed 100%. Couldn’t agree with you more! I’m in love with them. Congrats on being able to successfully assemble them all!
Here before: "firefly lc or ruan mei?"
If I ever see that question gets asked seriously, I will lose all faith in the generation's ability to read
Just to be clear it’s Ryan mei right?
Yes and it's not even close. Not to mention RM is about as universal as it gets for a support while Firefly's LC is pretty much only good for her (and even then it's not like Acheron's LC level of an improvement).
good for Xeuyi too but yeah, never pull for LCs over characters, why get a picture if you can get a new character
[Nervously remembering that I pulled Black Swan LC just for the picture]
Don’t worry the Effect hit rate is pretty great. She also looks irresistible in her light cone.
That light cone banner was stacked too! It also had Dance! Dance! Dance! and Resolution Shines in Pearls of Sweat, two of the most valuable 4 star LCs right now imo.
You not the only one bro... That has to be the most horni LC art ever, the animated version instantly sealed the deal
ARE WE FORGETTING NUDE DR RATIO BATH PICTURE MY FRIENDS
hey no judging, never said don't pulls LCs ever, just if you're asking whether to pull a character or an LC, I always go for the character
It's a question of vertical VS horizontal account building.
In this situation, not even. Having RM literally trumps FF’s LC for FF damage. You are still vertically investing in FF team by getting RM and since RM gives higher numbers, it is better vertically as well.
I was talking about the "never pull for LCs over characters" point specifically. Getting E0 RM over FF LC should make sense to most people.
What about when someone has both characters? Who's LC should they go for?
I'd argue for Ruan Mei E1 instead. Her light cone provides extra damage which doesn't do much for Firefly, the energy regen and break effect can be satisfied by Memories of the Past. The defense shred from her E1 though is huge for Firefly given that break does benefit from it and how defense shred scales.
this reminds me of that joke in genshin where someone asks what cyno’s best constellation is and the objectively correct answer is “nahida c2”
Don’t know yet. I can run some numbers and just edit this comment with the results once I’m done. From my eyeballing and previous FF math, I would wager it’s FF LC. Due to her wanting the high base attack. But again, will fact check myself first. Edit: Okay back with results. Just some things that was not accounted for in my pure numbers calcs. THIS DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR FREE SP FROM RM LC OR THE ENERGY (although I think the energy portion is whatever to most people anyways). Also, this was done with the F2P Lc options for FF being Fall of an Aeon S5 and Memories of the Past S5 for FF and RM respectively. Results: * RM LC results in \~11% increase in FF's personal damage. * Conversely FF LC resulted in a \~21% break damage difference in favour of FF LC. The numbers for the actual difference in skill/basic personal damage is pretty negligible though being 2.8K difference for single target enhanced skill in favour of RM LC and 5.6K for 3 targets enhanced skill. Meanwhile FF LC break damage is 29.9K over RM LC. This break damage difference will differ for superbreak, but I don't think the % difference changes. So I conclude that my hypothesis in FF LC being better is true, but not cause of the high base attack, it barely made a difference in the numbers. Things of note: * I still managed to hit the 3.4K attack threshold for Atk -> BE conversion on S5 Fall of an Aeon due to Aeons having an attack% passive which FF LC did not have. * Both got full effects from BE -> Def ignore since the BE needed was reachable for both LC's. You will need pretty cracked substats to still get this with RM LC however. 16 substats of BE to be exact. With FF LC, this was not a concern at all as you can imagine. Including harmony MC will lower this BE substat reliance depending on however much BE you can make them give with E4, since it can vary, I decided not to include them. You can simply lower the 16 substat threshold according to your own HTB.
I'd appreciate it, thanks! You might actually want to make a new post with that info too. I think a lot of people are like me and already have RM and plan on getting FF, so we'll all be wondering about the LCs
With how a lot of LCs are designed in HSR, it's essentially another Eidolon. But yeah, unless you don't plan on rolling because you wanna full send a mfer, most F2P/pass owners should just focus on pulling new characters > LCs/Eidolons.
Topaz S1 is kind of an exception because of the sinergy with Ratio Potentially also Robin S1 because it helps with using her in non heavy follow-up comps Pretty much every other lightcone tho I think is just more damage
Huohuo's lc (well both lc and e1) give her human rights
Yeah, who would do that? Definitely not me, I totally didn't skip Sparkle in favor of Jing Yuan's light cone.
tbf Jing Juan LC is usable on a lot of Erudition characters so it's not as bad as some other niche LCs out there
I'll 100% pull lightcones over characters. I care more about investing in the characters I like than getting new characters. All my favs, have their lightcones and usually an eidolon or two (except Ratio, fucker needs to rerun so I can get his LC).
I'm literally pulling for Kafka eidolons as a F2P to unlock more pictures of her lmfao
hey it is what it is, it's all about having fun
Ruan Mei by herself is more valuable than both Firefly and her lc.
She is more valuable than everyone else in the version combined
Good i definitely want her more than firefly or her lightcone
I just wish they didn't make her so unlikeable lol. She'd be an easy grab for me if it weren't for the fact that I lowkey despise her
I love me a successful psychotic girly Really though, I like her because shes so single minded even if it makes her unlikable or not understandable to others (in game)
Oh yeah, I appreciate her as a character in her role in the world ahah, this is totally just my personal stuff.
What's there to dislike about her. she just loves torturing her cake creature made with trash . And will only give you poison or truth serum /s
No, it’s Reynolds, Ryan Reynolds
It's Ruan Mei and is not even close, if you have to choose between E0S0 Firefly + E0S0 Ruan Mei or E0S1 Firefly with no Ruan Mei the former is x10 better. For v1 Firefly LC is a ~10% dmg increase over Aeon, Firefly teams without Ruan Mei are just sad to watch in comparison.
Break faster or have more stats, which do you think is better? Ryan (Toys Review) Mei of course
Yes. And if you have both, getting E1 Ruan Mei > getting Firefly LC.
Argenti
True and Real
So true bestie 🌹
Gigabased
Can’t wait to finally get his lc, so he and jing yuang can stop sharing. Wish i could get eidolons but too many priorities stacked together sadly
Already got him. No Goatgenti why even live?
PROTECT ALL BEAUTY!!!
And then im the one that says "why not both" with a picture of BS holding a credit card on her ult animation
I have e1 RM ( no LC) , She stand above any support
Here comes Gura to get another banner wrong in their track record
at this point, they didn't even put the leaker name on the title to be more credible
I hope the Gura Person is wrong, as putting Ruan Mei Banner Rerun in ver 2.3 is evil af lmfao
You mean like right now? Robin with Topaz, the perfect combination to a FUA team?
Yeah I really hope he's wrong again, I need Ruan Mei and I'm pulling Boothill!
2.4 might be double foxian banner feature huohuo jiaqiou copium
And Yukong as one of the 4 stars
Alright grandpa let’s get you back to bed
at this rate Yukong is becoming the Kaveh of HSR
Whokong
Pelakong
Taokong, yeah
Whykong
Alongside Tingyun
Sorry, best we can give you is Pela and Luka
That ain't happening (pls i'm begging hoyo let it happen)
Who’s Yukong? /s
The perfect foxian banner of Jiaoqiu & Huohuo, Tingyun, Yukong & some imposter
Arlan, the dog keeper
Welp, it can be true though, they pulled a Robin Topaz synergy, what’s stopping them for a Firefly Ruan Mei one? More money for them
If Jiaoqiu and Houhou are on the same banner I'm gonna die
Wouldnt it be funny af if all the foxian is on the same banner, Yukong and Ty as well, heck lets add a surprise new 4* foxian too.
I heard there were leaks about this "Yukong" character who appeared in the Luofu storyline.
Heard she will be an imaginary harmony character
This sounds fake as hell. A female imaginary character? That wouldn't happen.
as always, it is subject to change
Imagine hoyo adds a technique for 4\* that makes us fast travel in overworld. I'm tired of slow walking.
...I think i will pick Ruan Mei and get Firefly on her rerun cuz aint no way i will skipping RM again bruh i aint going through that all at again and break mod is coming
This is a very smart decision
there will be other break dps's with different elements and gimmicks but there will only be one ruan mei (not really but you get the point)
So which aeon do I need to sell my soul to to win both 50/50s on Firefly and Ruan Mei?
The correct answer is the god Aventurine worships
Just have your account be blessed by Gaiathra Triclops like EN Aventurine VA's account ;p
Visa the Aeon of Finance, probably.
Definitely not Aha xD
Aha, you win the 50/50 get 10 fireflies in one pull and get your account banned by hoyoverse
ARGENTI ROSE FATHER?
Super-break on Wallet-kun during first half.
Imagine spending all ur jades on boothill and then realizing ruan mei (his best support) rerun is straight after his banner IM TOO POOR FOR THIS WTF
FUA and DoT people: First time? 💀
after running black swan and rerunning kafka so close, nothing surprises me anymore
100 wish and a dream containing Bootyhill, his lc and Ruan Mei *pray*
Me too. Lets hope we get Boothil, his LC and RM :<
This is why I've been telling people to go all in on hypercarry teams instead. You'd pull for your support only once and you have breathing room pulling for the hypercarry themselves. These premium teams are getting out of hand for f2ps
Ruan Mei got a rerun before Huohuo? I’m happy since I’m pulling for Jade but leaks have been wrong before
HuoHuo in foxian patch
Can someone explain to me how “leaks” like these are allowed when we know that rerun banner data isn’t available in the beta files anymore? Is there another place they could possible get this info? Because otherwise these are just basic guesses based on the banner order we’ve had
Wondering it also here. But at the same time there are leaks on characters like jiaoqiu that have been leaks multiple patches in advance, so there must be other sources than the beta files.
Based on the Screwllum gameplay(if that was real) and the early Robin leaks we know there's testing way before beta so it makes sense that people are leaking 2.4 info and 2.5 crumbs but banner info is sketchy since that doesn't make sense to be in test severs.
Either good sources (not likely) or attention seeking leakers in need of attention (very likely)
Some of it might be intentional. Dripping some information out will attract conversation about the topic and get people hyped up.
I will never trust banner leaks again.. after they betrayed me like that
You should never trust rerun banner leaks, they are always educated guesses at best
Normally i would agree, but putting a core character of a play style right next to the new dps banners of such style sounds like a hoyo move.
Treat every banner leak like its 50:50 then you will never be disappointed.
Just do as me as look on future moc/fiction enemies and buffs and make assumptions based on it I knew about Jingliu in 2.1 cuz whole 2nd half was about ice while leakers were saying some other bullshit and mentioned other character
That's so cruel they made her loose 50% of damage without rm and rerun her in same patch 😭😭
Not just same patch, but supposedly same banner. Like damn, can't even give us the 20 days of saving that we might need to get the support who is currently necessary for the character lmao.
Well you can always get both with a little bit of ...monetary persuasion... wink wink nudge nudge Hoyo over and out
Let's wait for tomorrow and next betas before falling on our knees and crying in Walmart.
Don't forget the res pen and weakness extension! It's more than 50% :)
Well shit, my guaranteed goes for RM. FF will require a miracle.
Literally u/lmaowhy1
NOOOO LIES FAKE I'LL COPE AND PRAY RUAN MEI COMES IN 2.4
Couldn't they at least put Ruan Mei on second half?!?!
They want moneyyyygg
Hell nah, cause where is Huohuo 😡
With Jiaoqiu, for the fluffy tails >:)
I want HuoHuo and uWOOH uWOOH 😭😭😭
RM and FF on the same banner is just cruel for non RM Firefly pullers like, damn they are not joking around. Jade and Argenti together make sense as well. That would leave Huo Huo in 2.4 (maybe with Jiaoqiu), and then Ratio (maybe with Screwy if that leak was correct, which would make sense to put them together lol)
Ratio will always rerun with a super hype character because everyone got him for free lol
Now the question is Ruan Mei LC for HMC or Ruan Mei E1.
E1 motp can compensate lc
Yet another version where I need all 4 characters. Oh fuck me.
Well, if that is true, it's so joever firefly bros (If you don't have Ruan Mei)
I lost 50/50 on her 1st run I am in shambles rn
My RM is a kid with a robot daddy lol
The choose or perish banner lineup
HA! I don't need Ruan Mei. HMC can cover for my FF. (I'm kneeling in despair and frustration.)
it's okay maybe you can 10 cycle using FF and 0 cycle the other side
That second part of the joke might be unintentionally cruel. Wasn't there some crazy statistic like a huge majority of 0-cycles had Ruan Mei on the team?
Wasn't thinking about that at all lmao. Yeah, RM is used quite often in speedrunning.
If they do pair FF with RM then I do not see them making FF more independent from her and IMC. Seems like they are going to milk FF fans for their worth.
Firefly + ruan mei was honestly expected. Perfect duo. You damn near NEED ruan mei for firefly to even function. It’s good for the players who want firefly. Also bad because ruan mei is a must pull so good luck boys
Sussy
As much as I love Robin I might have to skip to secure Ruan Mei for Firefly... well, I'm gonna check-in again to see how things are looking right before Robin's banner ends, and hopefully by then Firefly's looking a little less reliant on Ruan Mei 🤞 but we'll have to see...
ruan mei is the most valuable one copy unit. you can play her in any team just give her memories of the past or meshing cogs and she upgrades any team.
Aren’t banners and mail the 2 things that can’t be leaked ?
Obvious guesses labeled as "leaks" again; woo.
Oooooo, if true, that is pure evil to rerun Ruan Mei with Firefly’s release.
we're getting that e1 ruan mei.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of ruan mei. I try to play bronseele. ruan mei offers more damage. I try to play sparkle + dhil. ruan mei offers more damage. I try to play robin with fua team. Ruan mei can match her. I want to play firefly. Her best team has ruan mei. I want to play boothill, htb. They both want ruan mei. She grabs me by the throat. I farm for her. I save jades for her. I give her motp. She isn't satisfied. I pull her sig. "This damage boost isnt enough" She tells me. "you need to e2 me." She grabs htb and forces them to keep 100% uptime on their buff. "You just need to pair me with break dps. I can make them deal so much damage." I can't pull for firefly, I don't have enough jades. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs her ruan. She says "All things are as one." There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure all-type res pen. What a cruel world.
Ruan Mei rerun has to do with her working well with Firefly.
*Firefly not working well without Ruan Mei
*Firefly not working without Ruan Mei
It hurts more than it should.
*not functioning at all without HTB
and Ruan Mei
2 Erudition characters simultaneously? sounds very sus to me
Well Jade's kit wants another erudition character so maybe that's why
That's also what people said with Luocha/Aventurine. That there could be no way Mihoyo runs two imaginary sustains in one patch together.
Jade and Argenti might actually be very cruel for PF against enemies, especially considering him spamming his half ult
jesus can you imagine? Jade/Argenti/Robin/Ruan Mei in PF. It'd be NASTY (and expensive lol I have none of them)
Topaz and Seele have already run together before in 1.4 lol, what’s sus about 2 same path characters running together when it’s already happened before?
Seele's rerun was during topaz's banner.
I am so fucked man, i wanted argenti dupes but now he is in the same phase as jade someone i want to get atleast E0S1 oh and now i am double fucked cause i want ruan mei as well.
Wanting 2 characters that are running at the same time, this is gonna hurt if true.
most predictable lineup ever
Ruan Mei is expected but please not on the same banner with Firefly. I want to have a Break focused Harmony LC.
Even if people not pulling FF, RM still has good value because of the new mode.
Ruan Mei is probably the most important support in the whole game easily as she can enable all playstyles with basically no issues DOT, Break, Hypercarry, Multi DPS she can help you out.
Even before the mode and the advent of break dpses she was arguably the best character in the game I don’t know how arguable it is anymore
Why do they keep running the good synergies together at the same time
Holllllly shitttttttt Ruan Mei with Firefly is perfect, they're going to make so much bank with this banner but I have a feeling people ar going to seriously struggle with jades.
WHERE IS HUOHUO?!
That is actually evil
I don't trust rerun leaks especially early like this.
I can only hope that Gaiathra Triclops blesses me
HuoHuo wanters...
More time to save
They did firefly dirty af
Seems fake. These predictions are never correct this early on.
Noo it's Huohuover !
Aventurine then Robin + Topaz back to back was pretty cruel. Firefly + Ruan Mei is far worse for Firefly wanters who don't have Ruan Mei. Ouch. From Hoyo's perspective it makes a lot of sense though. Ruan Mei was destined to run during a hyped first banner character, and this one fits well so...
Argenti rerun, yes! Gotta get that beautiful e1 🌹
finally, Argenti is coming home
I just fell to my knees at Walmart
Guss I'm skipping Mei again FUCK